Crash after Starting an Animation

[bladefae]

What I meant by "do something" is actually "do something to make the situation better". Which would be: animation playing instead of CTD. Even no animation playing, but no CTD either would be an improvement.

 

But couldn't test, still. Steam has been down the whole day, with a small acknowledgement on their forums that there "are problems", without specifying what these problems might be, or ETA for a fix.

[gregathit]

Bladefae, can you not put steam in offline mode and play or are you trying to verify your files?

[bladefae]

I could, and usually do. But I had it in online-mode to verify files as you said, because that might have been a source of error by some long-ish shot. I have seen stranger things when getting mods to run.

We-e-e-ell, I forgot to put it back to offline-mode because of frantic and curses-accompanied activity, and to switch to offline-mode, Steam has to be able to get online. Then something bad happened, and there I am. To my knowledge it doesn't offer an option to just stay offline if it can't log in properly.

 

edit: So the Steam issue got resolved, and I tested: plain FNV, unmodded, except for what is absolutely necessary, which is the data-pack, plugin-pack and animation files, sexout.esm, a nude body replacer (Type3 CALI for females, Breeze for males) and the skeleton - and of course, nvse and extender. I tried with MCM and without MCM, the result was the same: Hit masturbation-key, CTD. Looking closely, it doesn't look like anything on the screen was happening, the crash is instantly upon keypress.

[sen4mi]

I could' date=' and usually do. But I had it in online-mode to verify files as you said, because that might have been a source of error by some long-ish shot. I have seen stranger things when getting mods to run.

We-e-e-ell, I forgot to put it back to offline-mode because of frantic and curses-accompanied activity, and to switch to offline-mode, Steam has to be able to get online. Then something bad happened, and there I am. To my knowledge it doesn't offer an option to just stay offline if it can't log in properly.

 

edit: So the Steam issue got resolved, and I tested: plain FNV, unmodded, except for what is absolutely necessary, which is the data-pack, plugin-pack and animation files, sexout.esm, a nude body replacer (Type3 CALI for females, Breeze for males) and the skeleton - and of course, nvse and extender. I tried with MCM and without MCM, the result was the same: Hit masturbation-key, CTD. Looking closely, it doesn't look like anything on the screen was happening, the crash is instantly upon keypress.

[/quote']

 

Ok...

 

When you bring up FNVEdit from the Tools menu in FOMM and have it load your configured mods, it's happy? Or does it tell you about errors in your setup?

 

If that reveals nothing, you probably have something wrong in your animation files.

 

If reinstalling them does not work, we probably want to catch Prideslayer's attention. For that, you need to follow exactly the steps listed in his post about how to get help for problems: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=4993 (He is doing a lot of things and this makes efficient use of his time. He might have you do some installation steps over again, in a certain fashion, but that is sounding like the kind of problem you have.)

 

 

 

[bladefae]

Yes, FNVedit is happy. It WAS happy all the time, which first got me to suspect that it has something to do NOT with esps or esms, but with nvse-stuff. And I nailed it down to the extender, in that if it is where it is supposed to be, I get the crashes.

 

I am reminded of Kafka, right now. I am literate, and have stated that I read and followed the trouble-shooting advice that is around these forums. Yet all I get is iterations of the very same advice again.

How can "something be wrong with my animation files" if I downloaded them new, and installed them on a virgin installation of FNV? Or, to state it clearly, if nothing happened to tamper with them, no overwrites, no changes, nothing at all?

 

For the time being, I am fed up. I'll look into it when the next few updates are up here. The last time something mysteeeeeeeriosly was wrong, and it simply had to be on my end, no, the mod can't be at fault, waiting for a few updates helped. That was back when I got MGE to run properly with Morrowind on my machine.

[gregathit]

BladeFae, I am sure all feel your pain and frustration, but the reason they keep suggesting that it is on your end, is many folks are playing just fine and most errors do end up being something simple on the user side (like the extender not being installed or not installed in the right place and such). As you are well aware it just takes one small conflict or file/folder out of place to bugger up things and tracking down these items is a pain and a half.

 

Does the cali body mod have a bsa file? If so it potentially could have a skeleton in there that may cause issues.

 

I take it you have toggled off and back on the archive invalidation in FOMM? I briefly looked back to see if you had posted your load order but I didn't see it. I apologize if I missed it, but while FNV is not as sensitive as oblivion was, it still is something to check.

 

Try to keep your sense of humor and hopefully we can muddle through this and get you working.

 

[sen4mi]

I am reminded of Kafka' date=' right now. I am literate, and have stated that I read and followed the trouble-shooting advice that is around these forums.

[/quote']

 

Yes, indeed, you have made such statements. And, yet it is obvious that you have omitted steps, and have ignored messages which are emphasized in the relevant threads. So, obviously, you have decided that those steps are irrelevant.

 

So we have to take your words with a grain of salt.

 

Now, personally, I would like to build a program that identifies exactly where people that have done a "mostly right job" have gone off track. But that's hard for me to implement -- it's much harder than simply asking people to cooperate and follow an exact sequence of steps (and occasionally losing people when they get too frustrated for that process).

 

(One reason it is hard for me to implement is that there are literally thousands of flaws in the game which are irrelevant -- for example, FalloutNV.esm has references to over 2000 files which do not exist, and that's ok because the references are from irrelevant content that no one uses. So if I build a program to report on omitted files in your install, the report would be mostly garbage. And that's just omitted files -- other issues can also cause problems.)

 

[bladefae]

Just to share this, don't know if anyone is actually interested: After leaving things as they were and switching attention to different things, I came back to reexamine this case.

My findings are:

1. Everything concerning Sexout on my side was per spec.

2. What people here did works - probably - as it should within the boundary of known bugs.

3. It doesn't work - on German versions.

 

1. was verified by transplanting the setup to a US version. Worked fine. Let me elaborate on 3., perhaps something good will come from it. It is not that the German version "doesn't like sex and violence". This is an unuseful statement to anyone here. To conform with some, admittedly completely weird and freakish "youth protection" (censoring) in Germany, dismemberment does not happen in German versions. This is, after looking at some memory traces in comparison to US versions, not only done by just leaving out respective calls, but by omitting or rewriting quite some of the code handling dismemberment, probably to prevent kiddies from just toggling an ini-switch to get back the original.

Before dependency on the extender, Sexout worked. After that, it didn't. That is my observation. Other users of German versions don't get it to work either these days, so what I follow is this:

The extender calls for doing something with the skeleton that the modified German code can't handle. From what I traced it calls into the empty, which quite fits the insta-CTD.

Conclusion: German FNV likes sex as much as any other version, but can't follow fancy manipulation of the skeleton.

 

My apologies for the heated heads. Seems like almost everyone WAS right to a degree, but looked a wrong way for the guilty party. Anyway, that's what I did.

[prideslayer]

Re the german version: Are you sure that you have the NG (no gore) version of NVSE installed? It's possible that I need to recompile/rebuild the extender linked against the NG version of NVSE. I didn't think I'd need to do that (I figured NVSE would shield me from the differences) but maybe it doesn't.

[bladefae]

It would be a stretch to say "Yes, absolutely sure!", because I wiped out the installation due to repartitioning, dualboot-install, OS-reinstall (which made me look again in the first place, filing through old stuff on the drive).

But I'd guess it was the NG-version, as I explicitely look for "German NG-version supported" since my first experience back with FOSE and FO3 was that it did not. I carried that experience over to FNV and NVSE, since they are so similar enginewise.

You may be on to something there, prideslayer!

[jaam]

Re the german version: Are you sure that you have the NG (no gore) version of NVSE installed? It's possible that I need to recompile/rebuild the extender linked against the NG version of NVSE. I didn't think I'd need to do that (I figured NVSE would shield me from the differences) but maybe it doesn't.

 

You could try compiling a nogore version of your extender and have him test. The compiled extender may INCLUDE some offset without your knowledge.

[Kcohng]

After looking through the pages, the only post i could find was this one similiar to same problem i have.

 

i'm playing FNV and got everything started can run do the usualy things. But when a npc comes up to mine and talk about having sex, and i'm agreeing to it but when the animation should start it crashes.

 

what could be the problem?

 

i got the latest on NVSE and latest of prideslayer SexoutNG_-_Core, SexoutNG_-_Data plus his latest NVSE Extender. And i got it on the rigt place data/nvse/plugins.

 

This is my load order

 

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

CaravanPack.esm

Sexout.esm

rePopulated Wasteland.esm

SexoutCommonResources.esm

SexoutSlavery.esm

SexoutLegion.esm

wsex.esm

Night Vision Goggles.esm

Lings.esm

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

populatedcasino.esp

NovacMotelRoom.esp

HTRP-Vendor Supply Refresh.esp

MaxFollowers12.esp

Mick an Ralphs expanded.esp

CompleteCaravanDeck.esp

NewSilverRushGuard.esp

AsharasHairConversionNV.esp

NVLadyoutfitXOH.esp

mojave music radio expanded v1.1.esp

Nights are Darker 50%.esp

TWO BEARS HIGHFIVING.esp

epock.esp

31 New Food Items.esp

Loot Vehicles.esp

mycassiepoo.esp

WoP - Sunny Smiles.esp

WoP - Trudy.esp

HTRP-Daily Vendor Restock.esp

WoP - Michelle.esp

KatieNPC_eng.esp

WoP - Lacey.esp

I5K-TVReplacerMMhires.esp

NV binoculars.esp

1CazyTestEsp.esp

LingsPrettyThings.esp

Bouncing Natural Breasts.esp

MojaveExtended100.esp

OldWorldRadio.esp

Neckchains.esp

GBetterHookers.esp

wsexInnuendoAnims.esp

wsexInnuendoNPCs.esp

wsex_workgirl_tryout.esp

SexoutZAZ.esp

SmallerTalk.esp

SexoutFiends.esp

SexoutKhans.esp

SexoutKings.esp

SexoutNCR.esp

SexoutPowderGangers.esp

SexoutWorkingGirl.esp

SexoutConsequences EX.esp

SexoutBrutalRapers.esp

Tryout - Hard Prison Time.esp

SexoutCompanions.esp

SexoutHookupsAlt.esp

SexoutRapeGame.esp

SexoutDiscounts.esp

SexoutSex.esp

SexoutStraponSex.esp

SexoutHookups.esp

wsex.esp

SexoutTrade.esp

 

Total active plugins: 73

Total plugins: 75

[dcp7010]

hello

 

I have a problem with some animations (this is not specific animations, this is random )

i crashes and back Windows

I deactivate mods ... move in order but it does not change

 

 

someone would have an idea of ​​my problem?

 

thank you

 

my load order

 

 

 

FalloutNV.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

CaravanPack.esm

rePopulated Wasteland.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

ClassicPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

HonestHearts.esm

Sexout.esm

SexoutCommonResources.esm

SexoutPregnancyV3.esm

SexoutSlavery.esm

SexoutLegion.esm

SexoutStore.esm

SexOutMDJJFollowerBase.esm

SexOutCheyenneReplacer.esm

NosCo Companion System.esm

corvega.esm

Companion Core.esm

wsex.esm

SpeedyResources.esm

Lings.esm

BetterGamePerformanceV3.esp

Clean Up New Vegas.esp

populatedcasino.esp

companionannoyances.esp

Companions never Die.esp

Companions Commander.esp

NoDegrade.esp

Realistic death.esp

AllyNRCsteel.esp

ChildAtHeartPerk.esp

nothugs.esp

Armor Replacer Child NPC Fix.esp

FreeplayafterMQNVv1_6.esp

Readius_NV.esp

night_and_day.esp

aaaJNFSniperZooming.esp

FPT EDE - Longhair Brunette - Essential.esp

Guns.esp

Dalls_Lodger.esp

Centered 3rd Person Camera.esp

SimpleStreetLights (Extra Lights).esp

ClutterBGoneItems.esp

ClutterBGoneFlatStatic.esp

KillBlur.esp

Area 51.esp

wsexInnuendoAnims.esp

wsexInnuendoNPCs.esp

SexoutClothingEval.esp

SexOutCRWorldHookUp.esp

SexOutBrutildaTheButcher.esp

RobCo Certified Friendly Hit Fixer.esp

Tryout - Hard Prison Time.esp

SexoutXPM.esp

SexoutASB.esp

SexoutHookupsAlt.esp

SexoutResolutions.esp

SexoutRapist.esp

SexoutCompanions.esp

SexoutRapeGame.esp

SexoutDiscounts.esp

SexoutSexkey.esp

SexoutFadeToBlack.esp

SexoutHowAbout.esp

SexoutConsequences.esp

SexoutAgent.esp

SexoutSex.esp

SexoutConsequences EX.esp

SexoutStraponSex.esp

SexoutAffairs.esp

SexoutCheckMeOut.esp

SexoutFiends.esp

SexoutKhans.esp

SexoutKings.esp

SexoutNCR.esp

SexoutPowderGangers.esp

SexoutWorkingGirl.esp

SexoutZAZ.esp

SmallerTalk.esp

SexoutRocket.esp

SexoutBreeder.esp

SexoutTrade.esp

SexoutYield.esp

msexVeronica.esp

SexoutSS_C.esp

SexoutBrutalRapers.esp

wsex.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

AFricanAmericanAAlbino.esp

 

 

[KainsChylde]

Without a load order the best I could tell you is that your problem is...New Vegas. Even the vanilla game does that sometimes.

[dcp7010]

Without a load order the best I could tell you is that your problem is...New Vegas. Even the vanilla game does that sometimes.

 

ok thank you

[ChancellorKremlin]

hello

 

I have a problem with some animations (this is not specific animations' date=' this is random )

i crashes and back Windows

I deactivate mods ... move in order but it does not change

 

 

someone would have an idea of ​​my problem?

 

thank you[/quote']

 

Is it a CTD right after sex, when the actors are getting back up/getting dressed?

 

Because if yes, this is most likely a SexoutNG bug which we haven't been able to fix yet. I know it is cumulative, ie the more sex you have, the more likely it is to happen.

 

To fix it, just exit the game and restart.