Maybe you guys will have more input. Very Unstable Skyrim with Xp32

[nafeasonto]

SO here is my load order:

http://pastebin.com/M08WbyRV

Modwat.ch is NOT working for me, every time i try to upload I get a 404 not found.  Using latest loadorder.exe on Nexus.  So please don't crucify me.

Next my syste specs:

I7 - 4790K - 4.5 GHZ

32GB DDR3 RAM

980 TI 6GB

Okay so here is what is happening:

After months of troubleshooting, I figured out the cause of my crashes, the XP32 Max Skeleton.
Now in my idioicy I never installed Realistic Rag dolls and forces.  But here is what is weird:

1.  If Install XP32 after everything and have it overwrite whatever files it needs, the game will crash.
2.  If I install Realstic Ragdolls OVER xp32, the game is stable, but all my skeleton and animations are all fucked up (obviously).

So here is my stable test:

1.  I spawn a 100 of anything, and do a killall.  If they all die, AND I can fast travel as far as I want, and the game stays up, and the game doesn't crash.  It's good.  I have HAD such unstable games then doing the HELP command in the console, and CTDed.

2.  Now if I do XP32 max skeleton AFTER everything have it overwrite whatever, obviously run FNIS.  I do my 100 man test, it will freeze before they hit the ground.

I have replicated this without fail over and over.

**Now here is the reason I am doing the 100 man test:**

I have figured out with my stable, but fucked up skeletons game, it will NEVER CRASH.  I played for HOURS and HOURS without issues.

If I install xp32, even without doing the 100 man test. my game WILL eventually crash. It will either be a hard crash, or CTD.  It's completely random.  But it seems the more death that happens (The more the skeleton falls and dies.)  It will eventually crash.

I MUST be doing something wrong.  In my load order you will see dual sheath redux, and pretty combat animations.  I have tested it WITHOUT these.

I have tested with gender specific path, and without. Same result.

Any ideas?

[HylianSteel]

Do you use a Load Order Optimizer? I ask this because Bashed Patch and Duel Sheath Redux patch should be at the end of your load order.

Install LOOT from its github page and run it. I figure your load order and specifically the fact that XPMSE.esp at the end is the cause of your problems.

After you sort your mods, redo the Bashed patch and Duel Sheath Redux patch.

 

EDIT: one last thing of course... run FNIS again with all the correct options... just to be safe.

[nafeasonto]

Do you use a Load Order Optimizer? I ask this because Bashed Patch and Duel Sheath Redux patch should be at the end of your load order.

Install LOOT from its github page and run it. I figure your load order and specifically the fact that XPMSE.esp at the end is the cause of your problems.

After you sort your mods, redo the Bashed patch and Duel Sheath Redux patch.

 

EDIT: one last thing of course... run FNIS again with all the correct options... just to be safe.

Yes I have done this many times. This load order is a day old, made sure though xpsme is correct.

[nafeasonto]

Any other ideas?  

i have been trying to fix this for a week, it sucks because I can't use XP32 therefore i am limited on what Animation mods i can use.  

[Kinky]

Install Mod Organizer and install all mods with that. It will be lot easier to troubleshoot what is wrong that way.

 

Also are you using latest XPMSE?

[Arthacs]

Dual Sheath Redux have given me CTDs in the past, so I removed it, not XP32.

[nafeasonto]

Install Mod Organizer and install all mods with that. It will be lot easier to troubleshoot what is wrong that way.

 

Also are you using latest XPMSE?

 

Yes I have the latest XPMSE.

[nafeasonto]

This sucks. Why am I the only one in the world of modders that is having this issue.

[Kendo 2]

@nafeasonto

Make sure you have the right hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll for whatever version you are using.  And you're not the only one.  My game was a crash-fest at one time and I still get random crashes for no reason.  Equip a spell, sneak in a dungeon, walk down a road...CRASH.  Sometimes it is a screen lock and sometimes it is a CDT with no error.  The game just quits working.  Lots of people have these issues.  Skyrim is a buggy game.

[nafeasonto]

 

@nafeasonto

Make sure you have the right hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll for whatever version you are using.  And you're not the only one.  My game was a crash-fest at one time and I still get random crashes for no reason.  Equip a spell, sneak in a dungeon, walk down a road...CRASH.  Sometimes it is a screen lock and sometimes it is a CDT with no error.  The game just quits working.  Lots of people have these issues.  Skyrim is a buggy game.

 

 

It happens with the normal Xp32 as well without HDT.  It seems the game becaomes really unstable with anything that modified the skeleton.

 

I even tried a bare bones game with JUST the Xp32 skeleton, and no other mods.  Same freezing iessue, without XP32 it's stable as all can be.

 

I am not singleing this out either.  Anything that modifies the skeleton, even Deadly Mutilation causes issues as well.

 

Some people have super stable Skyrims, I can't even get mine to stabilize with two mods installed. Even with Shenson's patch.

 

Is there a weird issues somewhere else?

 

I have a mini dump file from SKSE.

[delgathar]

one basic thing is to make sure your left panel mod order is the same as your right panel order. 

 

Also, lots of mods have several install options.  You might have installed a mod then later installed a mod that the first mod has a patch or install option for.  So sometimes installing one mod requires a re-install of another mod, even if it is up-to-date.

I'm unstable a lot, and usually fixing it requires that I start from the top of my mods in the left panel and do a visit nexus for each one to make sure there aren't any mod conflicts or patches

[nafeasonto]

one basic thing is to make sure your left panel mod order is the same as your right panel order. 

 

Also, lots of mods have several install options.  You might have installed a mod then later installed a mod that the first mod has a patch or install option for.  So sometimes installing one mod requires a re-install of another mod, even if it is up-to-date.

 

I'm unstable a lot, and usually fixing it requires that I start from the top of my mods in the left panel and do a visit nexus for each one to make sure there aren't any mod conflicts or patches

 

I test now on a barebones games with just XP32.  Same issue, something else is wrong somewhere.

[azerty852]

Maybe there is some leftovers from an old mod ? What i would do is backup and remove the saves and the Skyrim Data folder then verify game cache with steam. Also check if you have some old mods subscribed in steam.

[nafeasonto]

Maybe there is some leftovers from an old mod ? What i would do is backup and remove the saves and the Skyrim Data folder then verify game cache with steam. Also check if you have some old mods subscribed in steam.

 

I completed deleted the game, and reinstalled from scratch.  Nothing should be left over. I use mods ONLY from Nexus.