Help Merging Plugins

Kira_of_Tilgia · August 5, 2015

So, I've had a lengthy adventure trying to prepare my Skyrim for being able to have kinky zaney adventures in an aesthetically pleasing and treasure filled Skyrim.

I've been through the ringer over a dozen or so times. Originally I had no clue what I was doing. Then I thought Nexus Mod Manager was the way to go. You can imagine how many times I've had to Completely reinstall Skyrim. I finally discovered Mod Organizer and I am Sooo grateful for its existence, nevertheless, things still haven't quite worked out for me...

I have Loot, Boss, Wrye Bash, Tes5Edit and of course, SKSE... And SkyUI and Bodyslide and . . .

Anyway, I've got the mods I think I want for sure. I've merged plugins with TES5Edit before with some amount of success. But there are almost always serious mistakes and I'm really getting sick of trying to fix things after I fucked them up. The damage is limited by having MO, but it can still be a pain in the arse and I really, really would like to avoid spending more than another day or two fixing all this so I can FINALLY Play a Stable naughty, treasure packed, and generally glorious Skyrim.

So I thought I would come here and see if anyone has any suggestions on what I should be able to safely merge without causing conflicts, missing master troubles etc. I only need to reduce my load order to 254 (it's currently 364 >.<, Doesn't need to be smaller, not that smaller would be a problem if it doesn't cause issues.

(Also I have DLed and RE-DLed all this shit so many times I can't remember what I actually got vs what I've gotten before and don't have now, so if there's anything Obviously Missing, please, Please, let me know, I will L U forever.)

So here is my load order, and mind, this Is after I have run loot on it a few times and cleaned everything @.@

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
3 3 Dawnguard.esm
4 4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
5 5 HearthFires.esm
6 6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
7 7 Dragonborn.esm
8 8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
9 9 ApachiiHair.esm
10 a ApachiiHairFemales.esm
11 b ApachiiHairMales.esm
12 c hdtHighHeel.esm
13 d SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
14 e KameleonArmor.esm
15 f RSkyrimChildren.esm
16 10 SGHairPackBase.esm
17 11 SexLab.esm
18 12 BeeingFemale.esm
19 13 CreatureFramework.esm
20 14 Devious Devices - Assets.esm
21 15 SexLabAroused.esm
22 16 ZaZAnimationPack.esm
23 17 Devious Devices - Integration.esm
24 18 daymoyl.esm
25 19 UndergroundBathhouse.esm
26 1a TravellersOfSkyrim.esm
27 1b GeneralStores.esm
28 1c RE_RealEstate_Core.esp
29 1d Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
30 1e SexlabInteractiveArousal.esm
31 1f TERAArmors.esm
32 20 HighResTexturePack01.esp
33 21 HighResTexturePack02.esp
34 22 HighResTexturePack03.esp
35 23 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
36 24 Brows.esp
37 25 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
38 26 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
39 27 KS Hairdo's.esp
40 28 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
41 29 SGEyebrows.esp
42 2a The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
43 2b TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
44 2c UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
45 2d EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
46 2e TrueEyes.esp
47 2f iHUD.esp
48 30 SkyUI.esp
49 31 RaceMenu.esp
50 32 XPMSE.esp
51 33 masser Size x0.5.esp
52 34 masser Size x0.6.esp
53 35 masser Size x0.7.esp
54 36 masser Size x0.8.esp
55 37 masser Size x0.9.esp
56 38 masser Size x1.1.esp
57 39 masser Size x1.2.esp
58 3a masser Size x1.3.esp
59 3b masser Size x1.4.esp
60 3c masser Size x1.5.esp
61 3d masser Size x2.0.esp
62 3e masser Size x2.5.esp
63 3f masser Size x3.0.esp
64 40 secunda Size x0.5.esp
65 41 secunda Size x0.6.esp
66 42 secunda Size x0.7.esp
67 43 secunda Size x0.8.esp
68 44 secunda Size x0.9.esp
69 45 secunda Size x1.1.esp
70 46 secunda Size x1.2.esp
71 47 secunda Size x1.3.esp
72 48 secunda Size x1.4.esp
73 49 secunda Size x1.5.esp
74 4a secunda Size x2.0.esp
75 4b secunda Size x2.5.esp
76 4c secunda Size x3.0.esp
77 4d Bishop.esp
78 4e The Gemstone Collector.esp
79 4f northern_encounters2.esp
80 50 ELFX - Exteriors.esp
81 51 JKs Skyrim.esp
82 52 3DNPC.esp
83 53 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
84 54 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
85 55 Immersive Jewelry.esp
86 56 MoreForests.esp
87 57 Life In Prison.esp
88 58 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
89 59 VHTNF.esp
90 5a ELFXEnhancer.esp
91 5b HRK ENB DG & DB.esp
92 5c RealShelter.esp
93 5d sanguinesDebauchery.esp
94 5e Coins.esp
95 5f Rebirth Monster.esp
96 60 Thieves Guild Redone.esp
97 61 Tel_Nalta.esp
98 62 ShenkThieveryOverhaul.esp
99 63 OBIS.esp
100 64 Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp
101 65 Tera Armor Level List.esp
102 66 OBISDB.esp
103 67 Civil War Overhaul.esp
104 68 SD Cages.esp
105 69 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
106 6a skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp
107 6b 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
108 6c AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp
109 6d AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
110 6e AFT_iNPCFix.esp
111 6f Animated Dragon Wings.esp
112 70 Children's Armor.esp
113 71 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp
114 72 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
115 73 Better Vampires.esp
116 74 BloodthirstVampireFeeding.esp
117 75 calyps-bosmer.esp
118 76 Brawl Bugs CE.esp
119 77 BVFE_Serana.esp
120 78 LadyLaceCloaks_EN.esp
121 79 SGHair33x144.esp
122 7a DwarvenRifle_Guilmonex.esp
123 7b DeadlyAimRanks.esp
124 7c DeadlyDragons.esp
125 7d Destructible_bottles.esp
126 7e DiamondWeaponsN.esp
127 7f RE_RealEstate.esp
128 80 hydra_slavegirls.esp
129 81 Convenient Bridges.esp
130 82 Captured Dreams.esp
131 83 zgrowth - RSChildren.esp
132 84 RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp
133 85 RSChildren_V.esp
134 86 Babette.esp
135 87 DragonTreeTemple.esp
136 88 DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
137 89 dwbb.esp
138 8a zzEstrus.esp
139 8b female mannequins.esp
140 8c FloraRespawnFix.esp
141 8d GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
142 8e Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
143 8f HarvestOverhaul.esp
144 90 HarvestOverhaul_skyBirds_v0.931_Patch.esp
145 91 HearthfireMultiKid.esp
146 92 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
147 93 comvex-hmpriestess.esp
148 94 NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp
149 95 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
150 96 Immersive Weapons.esp
151 97 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
152 98 HARODATH_ImmersiveSoulgems.esp
153 99 Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers.esp
154 9a Oblivion Gates v3.esp
155 9b wolfclub.esp
156 9c SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
157 9d SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
158 9e SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
159 9f HentaiCreatures.esp
160 a0 Silverstead.esp
161 a1 Inconsequential NPCs.esp
162 a2 Potions - Requiem17.esp
163 a3 Potions.esp
164 a4 SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
165 a5 ShowersInInns.esp
166 a6 Point The Way.esp
167 a7 Cloaks.esp
168 a8 Antennaria.esp
169 a9 Dovahbit2.esp
170 aa SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp
171 ab LC_immersiveLoot.esp
172 ac FyrManor_BASE.esp
173 ad HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp
174 ae Immersive Jewelry-Immersive Sounds Patch.esp
175 af BDIC.esp
176 b0 DeviousTraps.esp
177 b1 ZaFromTheDeepsV2.esp
178 b2 About horses 1.5.esp
179 b3 Convenient Horses.esp
180 b4 RavenCastle.esp
181 b5 SMIM-Merged-NoDragonborn.esp
182 b6 Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim City Edition - Merged - Deep Immersion.esp
183 b7 Seagulls.esp
184 b8 Immersive Patrols II.esp
185 b9 Farm Animals_HF.esp
186 ba AyleidPalace.esp
187 bb Escape the Cell.esp
188 bc Halamshiral - no NPC.esp
189 bd Ducks and Swans.esp
190 be RealisticWaterTwo.esp
191 bf Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
192 c0 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
193 c1 Size does matter.esp
194 c2 SFO - Dragonborn.esp
195 c3 Skyrim Realistic Archery.esp
196 c4 CoCo_TDM2.esp
197 c5 I5K Skull Hunt.esp
198 c6 SimpleSlavery.esp
199 c7 Elisdriel.esp
200 c8 DibellasRecruit.esp
201 c9 HillHouse.esp
202 ca Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp
203 cb SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.esp
204 cc SMUTBDS.esp
205 cd More Critters.esp
206 ce Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
207 cf Devious Cidhna.esp
208 d0 DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
209 d1 Chesko_Frostfall.esp
210 d2 AyleidSanctuary.esp
211 d3 DaedricCastle.esp
212 d4 Infinite Gold For Merchants.esp
213 d5 JaxonzRenamer.esp
214 d6 Katarina.esp
215 d7 DHuntress.esp
216 d8 FlameAtronachArmor.esp
217 d9 FullBootForKKSA.esp
218 da OMageReplacerPack.esp
219 db BF_RS_Children_addon.esp
220 dc KKFur.esp
221 dd KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp
222 de KKSDrBWeightFix.esp
223 df Males of Skyrim.esp
224 e0 SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
225 e1 Merta Assassin Armor.esp
226 e2 Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp
227 e3 More Salt Please - Dragonborn Addon.esp
228 e4 NoNakedComments.esp
229 e5 Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
230 e6 OpulentMageUSKPReplacerPatch.esp
231 e7 Pretty Combat Idles.esp
232 e8 Pretty Female Idles.esp
233 e9 Pretty Poses And Animations.esp
234 ea Rainbows.esp
235 eb Real Roads.esp
236 ec RSPatch.esp
237 ed RealShelterFF.esp
238 ee dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
239 ef DF_T29.esp
240 f0 SGHairPackAIO.esp
241 f1 ShootingStars.esp
242 f2 Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp
243 f3 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
244 f4 TakeNotes.esp
245 f5 TDNEquipableHorns.esp
246 f6 TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp
247 f7 TrueDeathImmortal.esp
248 f8 ub_adoption_hearthfire_extention.esp
249 f9 ub_tapestry.esp
250 fa ub_invite_any_npc.esp
251 fb ub_npc_rework.esp
252 fc Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp
253 fd zzArmormashups.esp
254 fe Aradia Devious Expansion.esp
255 ff Aradia Devious Rogue Armor.esp
256 100 SAM - Dawnguard Patch.esp
257 101 SAM - Shape Atlas for Men.esp
258 102 Angeli Devious Expansion.esp
259 103 Apropos.esp
260 104 Minou Aradia Lace Dress CBBE TBBP.esp
261 105 BDIC SkyTEST Patch.esp
262 106 BFA_BeastAddOn.esp
263 107 _BF_Alchemist_CP_seller.esp
264 108 More Salt Please.esp
265 109 BabettesFeastBalanced.esp
266 10a P1FlyingRing.esp
267 10b FS_UltimateAssortment.esp
268 10c BeeingFemaleShops.esp
269 10d BFAP v1.2.esp
270 10e PetCollar.esp
271 10f Books of Skyrim Compilation.esp
272 110 bosmer-lingerie.esp
273 111 CD-Tera Armors addonV3.esp
274 112 DD For Him - Captured Dreams patch.esp
275 113 Devious Devices - Gags+.esp
276 114 Masque of Clavicus Vile.esp
277 115 Devious Devices For Him.esp
278 116 DD - FtM - OBIS patch.esp
279 117 Devious Deviants.esp
280 118 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
281 119 SexLab_Dialogues.esp
282 11a Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp
283 11b Bandit Patrols.esp
284 11c ArachnaphobiaExpansion.esp
285 11d Drinking Fountains of Skyrim Sound.esp
286 11e SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp
287 11f Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp
288 120 BGtheCapturedFairies.esp
289 121 FyrManor_DAWNGUARD.esp
290 122 MistakenIdentity.esp
291 123 FyrManor_HEARTHFIRE.esp
292 124 Additional Children Clothes.esp
293 125 SkyrimToyStory.esp
294 126 Kavula_Vampire_Followers.esp
295 127 TKMN_MoreAdoptableChildren.esp
296 128 MilkModNEW.esp
297 129 SpousesEnhanced.esp
298 12a Hunterborn.esp
299 12b Bathing in Skyrim - Hunterborn.esp
300 12c The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
301 12d Extended Encounters.esp
302 12e bhabhilon.esp
303 12f HoldBorderBanners.esp
304 130 GSTH.esp
305 131 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp
306 132 Sneak Tools.esp
307 133 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
308 134 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
309 135 Aradia Living Parasite Armor.esp
310 136 BooksOfSkyrim.esp
311 137 Unicorn.esp
312 138 LoversComfort.esp
313 139 iNeed.esp
314 13a FarmAnimals_HF-iNeed Patch.esp
315 13b iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp
316 13c KameleonArmor.esp
317 13d Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
318 13e Gildergreen Regrown.esp
319 13f DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp
320 140 DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp
321 141 JebbalonsTreasure.esp
322 142 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp
323 143 BlackUnicorn.esp
324 144 BentPines_for_SFO2.0.esp
325 145 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp
326 146 BF_ScrollMerchant.esp
327 147 DCL-FF patch.esp
328 148 Deviously Cursed Loot Patch For Him.esp
329 149 dD Enchanted Chests.esp
330 14a Deviously Enslaved.esp
331 14b DeviouslyHelpless.esp
332 14c DibellanDefender.esp
333 14d EstrusChaurus.esp
334 14e GagSFX.esp
335 14f HarvestFeathers.esp
336 150 KL-Daren.esp
337 151 KL-Kyron.esp
338 152 MHTeraArmor.esp
339 153 MoreNastyCritters.esp
340 154 NobleWeddingDressByUrshi.esp
341 155 SC_NobleDresses.esp
342 156 NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
343 157 NewmillerPiercings2.esp
344 158 NewmillerPiercings3.esp
345 159 RogueCoutureMashup.esp
346 15a SDpatch - frostfall.esp
347 15b SexLabDefeat.esp
348 15c LoversVictim.esp
349 15d SexLab Submit.esp
350 15e SexLab Warmbodies.esp
351 15f SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.esp
352 160 slaTestMod.esp
353 161 SlaveTats.esp
354 162 SLIA - Books of Skyrim.esp
355 163 SLIA - SMUT Books.esp
356 164 SLIA - The Devious Manual.esp
357 165 ThunderBirdArmor.esp
358 166 1nivWICCloaks.esp
359 167 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
360 168 DD FtM - Cloaks WIC patch.esp
361 169 Immersive Jewelry Cloaks Patch.esp
362 16a Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
363 16b Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
364 16c Devious Bashnag.esp

Also if there are any conflicts you guys pick up on that LOOT wouldn't know about etc...

I've tried to best guess this shit so many times I'm kinda out of my mind now. Any help or suggestions on this that leads to a successful merge patch that doesn't end up with me being spammed with Sounds of Skyrim crap (I had the three separate ones and something that depended on them for masters and omg that was a fucking Nightmare for testing ImmerSlave, which I might get again if I have room after merging), and being able to have all the mods I want, will result in magical internet cookies of nomness and no consequences, also my undying gratitude.

Thanks to anyone in advance for their time <3

*Anatriax* · August 5, 2015

1) Get rid of BOSS. It's not needed anymore, and is actually unsupported now (For Skyrim, anyways)

2) Merge armors first. Then weapons.
3) If you're using MO, don't attempt to merge mods that have a "Scripts" folder in their file structure

(Right click > Information > File Tree tab)

4) Extract the BSA files for the official HD pack and put the loose files into it's own mod. Then get rid of the .esps for those. They're just cluttering up your load order, and do nothing but tell the game the BSA files are there. If you extract the BSA, you can remove the plugins.

5) Idk about "Nasser Size" and "Secunda size" but they seem like only one of those plugins is needed. Pick one. Remove the rest.

Kira_of_Tilgia · August 5, 2015

1) Get rid of BOSS. It's not needed anymore, and is actually unsupported now (For Skyrim, anyways)

2) Merge armors first. Then weapons.

3) If you're using MO, don't attempt to merge mods that have a "Scripts" folder in their file structure

(Right click > Information > File Tree tab)

4) Extract the BSA files for the official HD pack and put the loose files into it's own mod. Then get rid of the .esps for those. They're just cluttering up your load order, and do nothing but tell the game the BSA files are there. If you extract the BSA, you can remove the plugins.

5) Idk about "Nasser Size" and "Secunda size" but they seem like only one of those plugins is needed. Pick one. Remove the rest.

Ooo, I did Not know or think to check for Script containing mods that way.

About the HD pack though. . . I have USKP, so do I need one of the ESPs for that to not pitch a fit?

The Masser and Secunder size things are to resize the two moons, one for each moon, but idk if they're going to do what I want them to.

*I'm a derp, I didn't realize how MANY esps Masser and Secunder added @__@ *fixes that*~

Kira_of_Tilgia · August 5, 2015

Removing the extra Masser and Secunder moon resizes reduced my load order by 24 esps xD

*Anatriax* · August 5, 2015

I don't use the patch for the high res pack, but then again, I unpack them, then overwrite the textures with Skyrim 2k HD. Which, effectively fixes the problems the patch does.

also reduces load order by 4 esp files

Kira_of_Tilgia · August 5, 2015

I don't use the patch for the high res pack, but then again, I unpack them, then overwrite the textures with Skyrim 2k HD. Which, effectively fixes the problems the patch does.

also reduces load order by 4 esp files

I had trouble with Skyrim 2K HD. MO didn't seem to like them, so I just skipped them. . . Should I install them manually? And if so, suggestions on doing that so as to not murder or damage Skyrim would be awesome. I'm trying my best to avoid having to go through the whole reinstalling that from scratch thing ever again.

*Anatriax* · August 5, 2015

Phase 5 of my guide.

Kira_of_Tilgia · August 5, 2015

*putters around and works on that*

Kira_of_Tilgia · August 6, 2015

Phase 5 of my guide.

I notice the texture optimizer in your guide requires some Microsoft things. Is the optimizer a "need that" or a "It's just very nice and helpful" or a "It's not necessary but it will make a serious and massive and almost vital difference"?

*Anatriax* · August 6, 2015

I actually use DDSopt now instead of the one listed in that guide. I just haven't had time recently to update it, with making my Fallout guide.

It's good to have all of the microsoft updates, anyway. 2010, 2012, and 2013 VCRedist for both x86 and x64.

sethwarner08 · August 6, 2015

Here are 2 libraries that include merging attempts, quite a handful resource. It reports merging activities as facilitated by users.

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1033740-merging-user-reports/

http://pastebin.com/JGfBU5ue

Kira_of_Tilgia · August 6, 2015

I actually use DDSopt now instead of the one listed in that guide. I just haven't had time recently to update it, with making my Fallout guide.

It's good to have all of the microsoft updates, anyway. 2010, 2012, and 2013 VCRedist for both x86 and x64.

okay so I'm installing "My HD Textures" with MO now, once that's done do I need to do anything (aka. Delete) with the HD patches in my main Skyrim folder, or?

*Also Massive Thanks for the help

Ashkandii · August 6, 2015

put this in a spoiler because its not that relevant

I recently merged a alot of mods like..alot...

what i do is get all the armor/weapon mods, merge them

then all them small-ish mods that just add .esps i have about 40 mods into one which all work completely normal

recently i tried merging magic mods, but it seems Forgotten magic is missing its MCM which is very annoying because i can't upgrade spells and change it drop rates but other then that it works completely fine.

now for script mods i actually merged together and no problems

my only current problem is no MCM with forgotten magic and AFT bugging up not allowing me to access my followers inventories.

using as much as 300+ mods would recommend changing your skse.ini memory to something around 1024 just in case, with my all 200-ish mods i use around 300-400 memory near enough everytime, actually i never crash now but i restart skyrim every 1hr because it starts to get slow and couple stutters come up nothing worrying really.

you use the merge plugins 1.9 right?

Also you can merge all of your eyes hairs mod etc into one big file, i currently use kshairdos, sg hairs and all apachis into one i got like 800 hairs but thats just for when i want to use a certain hair from each of the mods, file is around 6GB big though lol

RedMonika · August 6, 2015

I've been doing the same for, I think, the past month of merging and seeing what works and doesn't. I've pretty much followed Anatriax's guide for the most part but MO just confuses me and I use NMM. As she mentioned armor and weapons can easily be merged but I don't merge Heavy Armory or Immersive Armor/Weapons as too many other mods call on them as their masters. I merge patches with those that they patch like Interesting NPCs have several different patches from Crafting Overhaul and EFF. So, I'll merge these together. Player homes can be merged as well. I've merged 5 with no hassle. This includes the hidden hideouts as well.

Hair and Tattoos/warpaints can be merged as well but if you use KS Hair there are several mods that need this. I have a merged pack of NB-Scars, Nuska Warpaint, EmpyreanCS, RaceMenuOverlayComp, Hag's stuff, Neithteam warpaint, and WyldmenuPlugFemale.

The dynamic loot addons can be merged into one but there are some mods that expect have access to aMidianBorn stuff like the book of silence stuff.

It's the immersion mods that kill me. I'm fine with everything but they all seem so good to pass up and they add up very quickly.

Kira_of_Tilgia · August 6, 2015

put this in a spoiler because its not that relevant

I recently merged a alot of mods like..alot...

what i do is get all the armor/weapon mods, merge them

then all them small-ish mods that just add .esps i have about 40 mods into one which all work completely normal

recently i tried merging magic mods, but it seems Forgotten magic is missing its MCM which is very annoying because i can't upgrade spells and change it drop rates but other then that it works completely fine.

now for script mods i actually merged together and no problems

my only current problem is no MCM with forgotten magic and AFT bugging up not allowing me to access my followers inventories.

using as much as 300+ mods would recommend changing your skse.ini memory to something around 1024 just in case, with my all 200-ish mods i use around 300-400 memory near enough everytime, actually i never crash now but i restart skyrim every 1hr because it starts to get slow and couple stutters come up nothing worrying really.

you use the merge plugins 1.9 right?

Also you can merge all of your eyes hairs mod etc into one big file, i currently use kshairdos, sg hairs and all apachis into one i got like 800 hairs but thats just for when i want to use a certain hair from each of the mods, file is around 6GB big though lol

What about mods that are dependent on stuff like the Apachi skyhair and such? The ones that pitch a fit about those being missing? (Not actually sure I have any of those this go round but best to be safe)

RedMonika · August 6, 2015

put this in a spoiler because its not that relevant

I recently merged a alot of mods like..alot...

what i do is get all the armor/weapon mods, merge them

then all them small-ish mods that just add .esps i have about 40 mods into one which all work completely normal

recently i tried merging magic mods, but it seems Forgotten magic is missing its MCM which is very annoying because i can't upgrade spells and change it drop rates but other then that it works completely fine.

now for script mods i actually merged together and no problems

my only current problem is no MCM with forgotten magic and AFT bugging up not allowing me to access my followers inventories.

using as much as 300+ mods would recommend changing your skse.ini memory to something around 1024 just in case, with my all 200-ish mods i use around 300-400 memory near enough everytime, actually i never crash now but i restart skyrim every 1hr because it starts to get slow and couple stutters come up nothing worrying really.

you use the merge plugins 1.9 right?

Also you can merge all of your eyes hairs mod etc into one big file, i currently use kshairdos, sg hairs and all apachis into one i got like 800 hairs but thats just for when i want to use a certain hair from each of the mods, file is around 6GB big though lol

On those that the MCM menu isn't coming up did you try to create the SEQ file? Right click > Other > Create SEQ File.

put this in a spoiler because its not that relevant

I recently merged a alot of mods like..alot...

what i do is get all the armor/weapon mods, merge them

then all them small-ish mods that just add .esps i have about 40 mods into one which all work completely normal

recently i tried merging magic mods, but it seems Forgotten magic is missing its MCM which is very annoying because i can't upgrade spells and change it drop rates but other then that it works completely fine.

now for script mods i actually merged together and no problems

my only current problem is no MCM with forgotten magic and AFT bugging up not allowing me to access my followers inventories.

using as much as 300+ mods would recommend changing your skse.ini memory to something around 1024 just in case, with my all 200-ish mods i use around 300-400 memory near enough everytime, actually i never crash now but i restart skyrim every 1hr because it starts to get slow and couple stutters come up nothing worrying really.

you use the merge plugins 1.9 right?

Also you can merge all of your eyes hairs mod etc into one big file, i currently use kshairdos, sg hairs and all apachis into one i got like 800 hairs but thats just for when i want to use a certain hair from each of the mods, file is around 6GB big though lol

What about mods that are dependent on stuff like the Apachi skyhair and such? The ones that pitch a fit about those being missing? (Not actually sure I have any of those this go round but best to be safe)

These are actually ESMs. I have merged ApachiiHairStyles.esp, ApachiiHairStylesElves.esp, SGEyebrows, and truebrows together just fine.

Ashkandii · August 6, 2015

put this in a spoiler because its not that relevant

I recently merged a alot of mods like..alot...

what i do is get all the armor/weapon mods, merge them

then all them small-ish mods that just add .esps i have about 40 mods into one which all work completely normal

recently i tried merging magic mods, but it seems Forgotten magic is missing its MCM which is very annoying because i can't upgrade spells and change it drop rates but other then that it works completely fine.

now for script mods i actually merged together and no problems

my only current problem is no MCM with forgotten magic and AFT bugging up not allowing me to access my followers inventories.

using as much as 300+ mods would recommend changing your skse.ini memory to something around 1024 just in case, with my all 200-ish mods i use around 300-400 memory near enough everytime, actually i never crash now but i restart skyrim every 1hr because it starts to get slow and couple stutters come up nothing worrying really.

you use the merge plugins 1.9 right?

Also you can merge all of your eyes hairs mod etc into one big file, i currently use kshairdos, sg hairs and all apachis into one i got like 800 hairs but thats just for when i want to use a certain hair from each of the mods, file is around 6GB big though lol

What about mods that are dependent on stuff like the Apachi skyhair and such? The ones that pitch a fit about those being missing? (Not actually sure I have any of those this go round but best to be safe)

Go to TES5Edit and go on the mod that requires apachii sky hair, then to file header and change the masterfile what says "Apachiiskyhair.esm right click Edit > yes then change it to the merged mods name plug in

example,

my merged plugin is called Hairs and eyes merged.esp

apachiisky npc overhaul require apachiiskyhair.esm apachiiskyhairfemales.esm and apachiihairmales.esm

i change first one to "hairs and eyes merged.esp"

dont delete the other two rename them to something else for instance Dawnguard.esm and Dragonborn.esm

works completely since it now takes files from the merged mod instead of nowhere

Thats the way i did it but the .esps would work fine but my method also works fine,

Could take a screenshot of what i mean if dont understand wtf i just said

RedMonika · August 6, 2015

put this in a spoiler because its not that relevant

I recently merged a alot of mods like..alot...

what i do is get all the armor/weapon mods, merge them

then all them small-ish mods that just add .esps i have about 40 mods into one which all work completely normal

recently i tried merging magic mods, but it seems Forgotten magic is missing its MCM which is very annoying because i can't upgrade spells and change it drop rates but other then that it works completely fine.

now for script mods i actually merged together and no problems

my only current problem is no MCM with forgotten magic and AFT bugging up not allowing me to access my followers inventories.

using as much as 300+ mods would recommend changing your skse.ini memory to something around 1024 just in case, with my all 200-ish mods i use around 300-400 memory near enough everytime, actually i never crash now but i restart skyrim every 1hr because it starts to get slow and couple stutters come up nothing worrying really.

you use the merge plugins 1.9 right?

Also you can merge all of your eyes hairs mod etc into one big file, i currently use kshairdos, sg hairs and all apachis into one i got like 800 hairs but thats just for when i want to use a certain hair from each of the mods, file is around 6GB big though lol

What about mods that are dependent on stuff like the Apachi skyhair and such? The ones that pitch a fit about those being missing? (Not actually sure I have any of those this go round but best to be safe)

Go to TES5Edit and go on the mod that requires apachii sky hair, then to file header and change the masterfile what says "Apachiiskyhair.esm right click Edit > yes then change it to the merged mods name plug in

example,

my merged plugin is called Hairs and eyes merged.esp

apachiisky npc overhaul require apachiiskyhair.esm apachiiskyhairfemales.esm and apachiihairmales.esm

i change first one to "hairs and eyes merged.esp"

dont delete the other two rename them to something else for instance Dawnguard.esm and Dragonborn.esm

works completely since it now takes files from the merged mod instead of nowhere

Thats the way i did it but the .esps would work fine but my method also works fine,

Could take a screenshot of what i mean if dont understand wtf i just said

I forgot about this but you can also do this in Bash too.

Ashkandii · August 6, 2015

I dont use Bash myself i normally stick to my guns (MO guns) and rely on merging stuff through merge plugins xedit script.

Just remember not leave the masterfiles blank and make sure the other required master files are also inside the merged mod otherwise you will have missing meshes/textures, you can just have dragonborn and dawnguard as dummy masters they wont use anything from there unless it was intended to do that

dont suppose anyone can tell me why using Skyrim HD Lite(or any texture replacers that affect exteriors) makes my game crash randomly, like not at certain points just randomly.

Kira_of_Tilgia · August 6, 2015

put this in a spoiler because its not that relevant

I recently merged a alot of mods like..alot...

what i do is get all the armor/weapon mods, merge them

then all them small-ish mods that just add .esps i have about 40 mods into one which all work completely normal

recently i tried merging magic mods, but it seems Forgotten magic is missing its MCM which is very annoying because i can't upgrade spells and change it drop rates but other then that it works completely fine.

now for script mods i actually merged together and no problems

my only current problem is no MCM with forgotten magic and AFT bugging up not allowing me to access my followers inventories.

using as much as 300+ mods would recommend changing your skse.ini memory to something around 1024 just in case, with my all 200-ish mods i use around 300-400 memory near enough everytime, actually i never crash now but i restart skyrim every 1hr because it starts to get slow and couple stutters come up nothing worrying really.

you use the merge plugins 1.9 right?

Also you can merge all of your eyes hairs mod etc into one big file, i currently use kshairdos, sg hairs and all apachis into one i got like 800 hairs but thats just for when i want to use a certain hair from each of the mods, file is around 6GB big though lol

What about mods that are dependent on stuff like the Apachi skyhair and such? The ones that pitch a fit about those being missing? (Not actually sure I have any of those this go round but best to be safe)

Go to TES5Edit and go on the mod that requires apachii sky hair, then to file header and change the masterfile what says "Apachiiskyhair.esm right click Edit > yes then change it to the merged mods name plug in

example,

my merged plugin is called Hairs and eyes merged.esp

apachiisky npc overhaul require apachiiskyhair.esm apachiiskyhairfemales.esm and apachiihairmales.esm

i change first one to "hairs and eyes merged.esp"

dont delete the other two rename them to something else for instance Dawnguard.esm and Dragonborn.esm

works completely since it now takes files from the merged mod instead of nowhere

Thats the way i did it but the .esps would work fine but my method also works fine,

Could take a screenshot of what i mean if dont understand wtf i just said

o_o OoO Oh.

I dont use Bash myself i normally stick to my guns (MO guns) and rely on merging stuff through merge plugins xedit script.

Just remember not leave the masterfiles blank and make sure the other required master files are also inside the merged mod otherwise you will have missing meshes/textures, you can just have dragonborn and dawnguard as dummy masters they wont use anything from there unless it was intended to do that

dont suppose anyone can tell me why using Skyrim HD Lite(or any texture replacers that affect exteriors) makes my game crash randomly, like not at certain points just randomly.

I have Wrye Bash, but I don't really actually use it, I don't really understand that one very well. I use the TES5Edit one, and yes, the 1.9 version I'm fairly certain. The most recent one of about . . . maybe a month ago? I'm shocked how many of the mods I got again have updated since I got them at the beginning of the summer @.@;

Ashkandii · August 6, 2015

Oh yeah and MO hates merged mods and .bsa's remember to tick them in the Archive section.

and general knowledge, dont merge mods that overwrite other mods files, otherwise you have no idea who overwritten who lol

yeah i had to update that Redgaurd expansion pack 3 times, now I can finally play it because its reached its final version..

since i got summertset isle's also to do.

seems my skyrim character is booked for a hella-adventure.

Kira_of_Tilgia · August 6, 2015

I've been doing the same for, I think, the past month of merging and seeing what works and doesn't. I've pretty much followed Anatriax's guide for the most part but MO just confuses me and I use NMM. As she mentioned armor and weapons can easily be merged but I don't merge Heavy Armory or Immersive Armor/Weapons as too many other mods call on them as their masters. I merge patches with those that they patch like Interesting NPCs have several different patches from Crafting Overhaul and EFF. So, I'll merge these together. Player homes can be merged as well. I've merged 5 with no hassle. This includes the hidden hideouts as well.

Hair and Tattoos/warpaints can be merged as well but if you use KS Hair there are several mods that need this. I have a merged pack of NB-Scars, Nuska Warpaint, EmpyreanCS, RaceMenuOverlayComp, Hag's stuff, Neithteam warpaint, and WyldmenuPlugFemale.

The dynamic loot addons can be merged into one but there are some mods that expect have access to aMidianBorn stuff like the book of silence stuff.

It's the immersion mods that kill me. I'm fine with everything but they all seem so good to pass up and they add up very quickly.

>.O I remember when I used to use NMM. If you ever decide it's not working out for you, Mod Organizer is Amazing. NMM fucks with your base game. MO doesn't. If you decide you've completely fucked up you can just chuck the mods and don't have to worry about your base game being messed up. And you can use the profiles to check out different mods and stuff.

^__^ Thank you all very much for your input, I think I might have some ideas of what to do now to hopefully cram these mods a lil tighter >;D

Ashkandii · August 6, 2015

Would not recommend merging Frostfall right now, chesko did say hes planning an update somehwere in august.

oh and you can merge mods into a merged mod.

I think u can even update mods within the merged mod just by merging it again, not sure what i did but i managed to do it somehow.

RedMonika · August 6, 2015

Honestly, I've tried MO several times but I just get confused. I understand that it's totally geared for Skyrim but I just don't know what I'm doing with it.

You're most welcome. I hope I was able to shine some light for you with merging mods. I'm still learning from my mistakes as well. I have about 500 mods that I'm trying to use.

*Anatriax* · August 6, 2015

Would not recommend merging Frostfall right now, chesko did say hes planning an update somehwere in august.

oh and you can merge mods into a merged mod.

I think u can even update mods within the merged mod just by merging it again, not sure what i did but i managed to do it somehow.

If you're talking about the automatic merged mod with TES5Edit, it's advised to delete the .esp and create a new one any time you have to re-merge.

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