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For some time now I have this bug-ish thing with some NPCs that prevents me from talking to them.

They have three periods dialogue greeting and that prevents me from completely interacting with them.

Also all follower commands such as "I need you to trade something." also begins with such an empty dialogue, except the usual line follows after.

 

Honestly, I have no idea what causes it since I don't have any follower mods active.

 

Load order:

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
daymoyl.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
PubicMeshColorRE.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
TexturesPack_PL.esp
Muiri's Problem.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
LoversComfort.esp
LoversHook.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
Footprints.esp
Footprints - Ash.esp
SkyUI.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
DPArmor_AIO.esp
TG.esp
calyps-dragonpriestmasks.esp
ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp
Captured Dreams.esp
HFFF.esp
SexLab Romance.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp
DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
Better Vampires.esp
BloodthirstVampireFeeding.esp
FemaleWerewolf.esp
Predator Vision.esp
SexLab Enchantress.esp
Realistic crime report radius.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
AllHairs.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Gri_BeastFeet.esp
Vampire Skin Color Fix.esp
HDT Female Hairstyles.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
UIExtensions.esp
CustomRaces.esp
RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
RaceMenuOverlays.esp
RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp
Animatedears.esp
SexLab Vanilla Voices.esp
BeastWithin-permspell.esp
sr_FillHerUp.esp
SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
SexLabWerewolves.esp
AZS03SexLabHdtHighHeels.esp
Save the Dark Brotherhood!.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
GagSFX.esp
GagSFXDawnguard.esp
GagSFXHearthfires.esp
GagSFXDragonborn.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
SOS - no underwear for beast races.esp
SlaveTats.esp
PetCollar.esp
FreckleMania.esp
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
dc-untamed-000.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
SOS - ERF Horse Penis Addon.esp
PuppetMaster.esp
Blush When Aroused.esp
Blush When Aroused CE.esp
SoS - The Dungeons.esp
WM_Warmer_Lights.esp
Immersive NPC in the dark.esp
Devious Deviants.esp
MuscularWomen_Diesel_AR.esp
TweaksAshesAshesJustFallDown.esp
360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
SexLabSexBounty.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
SOS - ERF Equipable Horse Penis.esp
SOS - Leito Addon.esp
SkyTEST-Vision_Full.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
ArgonianFins.esp
ResearchThief.esp
KJ Tattoos 2K.esp
ETaC - Complete.esp
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
Immersive Solstheim.esp
ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
display-model.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

Posted

I do not think that is a load order problem.

 

It occurs in Fallout, also. Something breaks the dialog pointer in the game and it can not find the proper greeting dialog. I guess the (...) response is better than the game freezing.

 

I have found that a complete reload of the game fixes the problem, but I have not tried using the old save because it maybe corrupted. Not sure if Wrye Mash or Bash or what ever detects and fixes the problem as I have not used it since Morrowind.

Posted

Three empty dots for the player to start a conversation means that there is a dialogue without a valid prompt (an empty prompt).

The conditions of the dialogue are good, but probably the line was not supposed to start in this way.

 

A few possibilities:

1) An entry dialogue line got lost, and the other dialogue lines are not a starting topic

2) The dialogue was supposed to be started through a ForceGreet

3) The [hiding] conditions do not met anymore

 

Posted

I do not think that is a load order problem.

I'm 100% sure it's a mod, because I run a localized version of the game and follower dialogues are in english - at least the text.

Posted

You have a pretty long list of mods...

Here a sub-list that MAY have impacts on dialogues. Try to disable them and check.

Do it before in big bunches (10 mods or more), then when you find a batch that is causing the problem, enable/disable the mods individually.

 

  • daymoyl.esm
  • ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
  • Muiri's Problem.esp
  • Better Dynamic Snow.esp
  • LoversComfort.esp
  • LoversHook.esp
  • TG.esp
  • ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp
  • Captured Dreams.esp
  • HFFF.esp
  • SexLab Romance.esp
  • SexLab Enchantress.esp
  • Realistic crime report radius.esp
  • UIExtensions.esp
  • CustomRaces.esp
  • BeastWithin-permspell.esp
  • Save the Dark Brotherhood!.esp
  • SexLabDefeat.esp
  • PetCollar.esp
  • FreckleMania.esp
  • sanguinesDebauchery.esp
  • SexLab_Dialogues.esp
  • dc-untamed-000.esp
  • PuppetMaster.esp
  • Immersive NPC in the dark.esp
  • TweaksAshesAshesJustFallDown.esp
  • SexLabSexBounty.esp
  • Dual Sheath Redux.esp
  • Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
  • ArgonianFins.esp
  • ResearchThief.esp
  • ETaC - Complete.esp
  • Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
  • Immersive Solstheim.esp
  • ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
  • MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
  • display-model.esp
I removed from your list the mods that have no dialogues. Maybe there are others, but I don't know all of them.
 
Posted

Huh, wouldn't have thought about Sexlab Defeat.

Even more so, because all I had to do was to re-enable it right after quitting the game.

 

It seems the follower part is caused by a different mod, however, but that's not as game breaking issue.

 

 

A bit offtopic: is there a way to figure out which faction two NPCs or PC/NPC share?

Because dragons refuse to attack me, unless provoked and SameFaction command says PC and dragons(at least Blood ones) share faction.

Posted

I just discovered that if you're having that issue (in my case it is also triggered by SL Defeat [thanks for finding that out :)]) all you have to do is tap the "options" key (defined in SL defeat's MCM) and select Clean Up, the clean-up option that says it will clean up actors in the same "room" you are in. That completely gets rid of the issue, which is good because not even disabling/re-enabling the NPC was helping.

 

Cheers.

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