karlpaws Posted September 12, 2015 Posted September 12, 2015 I didn't realize I was so many months behind... there were a lot of anims I was missing. I'm not sure if you plan to, or want to, add a crime element to the mod. Kinda odd how I have to sneak up on someone sleeping in bed, but if I wake her up, I can snack on her... or a maid in the middle of the jarl's hall, and no one seems to mind.
Guest Posted September 12, 2015 Posted September 12, 2015 One step at a time. I plan to expand it once I get it stable. Stuff like that is fairly simple, getting SexLab and VampireFeed to play nicely together is causing me grief.
karlpaws Posted September 12, 2015 Posted September 12, 2015 So I finally got to Morthal (have some issues there for some reason, game keeps crashing) and talked to Alva. Left my speechcraft low intentionally to fail the check with her as a vampire. Got told off as meat. Boosted it and tried again, and succeeded. Odd thing. Not sure from this mod or not. While I was bite/sexing Alva, I saw a notice that "I absorbed some Speechcraft skill from my victim" Now I just need to find a Dawnguard girl, inside, to talk to. edit: do the guards added by the mod Dawnguard Sentries count?
Guest Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 The absorbed spell is part of Better Vampires when you feed on a vampire. The Dawnguard Sentries will count only if they are inside and if the mod maker flagged them as Dawnguard faction. I know the attack on speech fail for Thalmor and Dawnguard doesn't work on the version I uploaded. I've already fixed it on the one I'm working on. The only bug I have left is the Automatic Free Camera issue with characters getting stuck after the sex. I've asked a couple people for assistance, but I've had little luck resolving it. Adding this to the end of the script has no effect: Game.SetPlayerAIDriven(False) Game.EnablePlayerControls() Still works fine if the camera is turned off, but I hate that.
Guest Xandero Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 Wow! Finally someone decided to do something that I myself could not. Great mod great idea! Now I have a desire to do animations in this direction.
Guest Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 Thanks Xandero, I couldn't have had the idea without your animation
karlpaws Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 The absorbed spell is part of Better Vampires when you feed on a vampire. The Dawnguard Sentries will count only if they are inside and if the mod maker flagged them as Dawnguard faction. I know the attack on speech fail for Thalmor and Dawnguard doesn't work on the version I uploaded. I've already fixed it on the one I'm working on. The only bug I have left is the Automatic Free Camera issue with characters getting stuck after the sex. I've asked a couple people for assistance, but I've had little luck resolving it. Adding this to the end of the script has no effect: Game.SetPlayerAIDriven(False) Game.EnablePlayerControls() Still works fine if the camera is turned off, but I hate that. Well, that's odd, but good to know. I would have thought I'd fed on vampires before, and as I do use BV I would have seen that message.... but maybe not. I think the Sentries mod has them in the faction, from what I can see... but they all patrol outside. I just wanted to see if it worked or did not work, so i could report one way or another. Wow! Finally someone decided to do something that I myself could not. Great mod great idea! Now I have a desire to do animations in this direction. Yeah, its a great system, and could use a missionary or cowgirl feeding anim. but otherwise is fine. I am probably going to have some Apropos lines put together and I can put them up here as well in that thread. I do not know if you are able, or allowed, to make modifications to any of the other anims, but some of the missionary anims have the "male" position's head close to the female, and could be changed? to have him feeding for a stage or 2. Similar with a couple cowgirl anims, though I don't remember which. "She" leans down over him, as is for a kiss, and could also be biting. Then again, since the feeding anim for me normally has the vampire biting somewhere around the body's upper leg or crotch, I suppose any blowjob anim would be feeding.
Guest Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 I think I'm getting closer to figuring out why the PC gets stuck after sex with Automatic Free Camera turned on. I've been carefully trimming more and more from the script to see if I can isolate which part is causing the freeze and I don't think it has anything to do with Better Vampires or Vampiric Thirst or vanilla at all. At least not directly. I think my SexLab script just doesn't like having any wait commands behind it. I stripped my sex script down to just two additional lines: Scriptname AA21SexualVampireFeedScript extends Quest SexLabFramework property SexLab auto Actor Property PlayerRef Auto Faction Property AA21SeducedFaction Auto function VampireSex(Actor SpeakerRef) actor[] sexActors = new actor[2] sexActors[0] = SpeakerRef sexActors[1] = PlayerRef sslBaseAnimation[] anims = SexLab.GetAnimationsByTags(2, "xandero" ) SexLab.StartSex(sexActors,anims) utility.wait(5.0) SpeakerRef.AddtoFaction(AA21SeducedFaction) endfunction When I played that, my character got stuck after sex in Free Camera on. When I took out: utility.wait(5.0) I was able to play the sex scene with Automatic Free Camera on and my PC was not stuck! BUT! If I want the mod to actually affect how you play as a vampire, meaning it will act as if you just fed upon them, then that means referring to the PlayerVampireQuest. No matter which vampire mod you use, Better Vampires, Vampiric Thirst, or even vanilla/Dawnguard, they all have utility.wait scripts in them, which will make your character stuck after the animation. So I've at least narrowed down the issue and I know what it is. Now I need to figured out how to have the mod sate your thirst without causing the script to lock the character up. I'll experiment a bit more to see if I can add other commands and not lock the Player Character up, such as the blood and sound FX. If I can reference them directly instead of going their function in the PlayerVampireQuestScript, maybe I can figure out a work around.
Guest Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Yep, it works now! There's only one issue, but it's a thematic issue, not a functional one. I have to place the vampire feeding script above the sex script. This means that you will get the feeding message and red screen change before the sex animation begins. Which is not a big deal. I just prefer having it play during because it looks better, but I can't do that without having a wait script after the sex script and that will cause your character to freeze up at the end. So I'll probably release soon unless someone can tell me how to place a utility.wait script after a sex script without freezing the PC with Automatic Free Camera enabled.
karlpaws Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 I wonder if that is why sometimes my character seems to pause when I'm feeding normally. I thought it was because the camera would change angle (if I was in 3rd person... in 1st you can't see much when feeding) but then I wouldn't have control for a couple seconds after the bite. Usually not a problem, unless it was a time that a sneak combat bite didn't ambush enough damage and kill the NPC. Also, I think the Dawnguard guards in towns are not in the right faction. I was able to lead a couple inside using other sex dialogs, but they did not have your dialog option on them. Interesting enough, Sorine did not have the dawnguard option either, just a regular "can I ask you about vampires" and it wasn't until later in the quest chain when more dawnguard npcs were in the Fort that I could see what it should be.
Guest Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Officially, there's two Dawnguard factions, the regular one and another that's called DawnguardExteriorGuardFaction. Injard is the only female on the Dawnguard faction accourding to the Creation Kit. All the others are part of the exterior faction. If the Sentries mod classifies them as the exterior faction, then my mod won't recognize them for the dialog. But I'll add them to it in the next build, I didn't think someone would take them inside That said, if the Dawnguard Sentries mod doesn't have them as either Dawnguard faction, the dialog still won't appear for them. Also, since Injard is the only female, I might make some unique dialog for her at some point. I'm gonna test with Vampiric Thirst and the vanilla vampire system. If they work out ok, then I'll probably release later tonight/tomorrow morning.
karlpaws Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 I think she was the one I did first, inside, but there was another female as well, that also worked. I didn't know about the multiple factions, and didn't really check in the CK that the sentries were added, just spotted that he'd made modifications to the factions, so I assumed. Oops.? Really only matters if you want to fight them on a failure. I found that without some work, you can't really get those NPCs into the fort and environs as a vampire anyway, so just using them as normal seducees might be fine. THere was a "Dawnguard as a vampire" mod I was using, and while I could walk in the door to talk to Isran with it, and could not without it, when I came back with Gunmar and Sorine, I still got stuck, caught out as a vampire. Console cheated and advanced the quest to get past. I think the mod was only meant with the Serana vampire / soul drain option for entering the Soul Cairn in mind. ---- Not to make it harder, since I do not know what this would entail, but instead of having it always be a crime (as it is now, if you try to feed from someone sleeping and wake them, or someone else walks into the room) have it only be if the witness is not a friend. I don't know how many places have proper factions setup for houses though.. if I go with Raloff out of Helgen, split wood for Hod, and then try to feed on Gerdur, would they count me friends and be ok with it, or would only Hod like me? In some ways I think I'd like no crime issues, and the chance to lay Anuriel out on the floor of Riften keep, than have to deal with a bunch of lover level friends in their own house yelling for the guards.
Guest Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 When you say feeding on someone sleeping, are you talking about the dialog feed of the mod or the [Feed] option that pops up? My mod only affects the dialog, I haven't messed with the [Feed] option when sneaking because I don't want to mess with the actual scripts of other mods. An update: The mod officially works with Vampiric Thirst. I have no idea if it works with vanilla. I assume so, but without a way to check feed status that Better Vampires or Vampiric Thirst uses, I really can't tell. Though honestly, who plays as a vampire on this site without either one of those mods?
karlpaws Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 I meant the vanilla Feed option you get if you sneak up on someone sleeping in a bed. If you get caught, its a crime. I wasn't sure how, or if, you were going to handle any crime elements in your mod. Seducing someone should mean they do not report you for something, but witnesses might see a vampire necking someone and go running. Or not.
Guest Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 No, there's no repercussions for successfully seducing someone in front of others. Failing a seduction doesn't count as a crime either, but it will cause the woman you are seducing to attack if they are Thalmor or Danwguard. Commoners and vampires will just blow you off. Adding to the crime faction on being witnessed may be a feature for later. I'd have to learn how to script that, but I can't imagine it's that difficult.
Guest Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 I've uploaded the release version here. I'll be using the new thread for further support of the mod. Thanks to everyone that helped me test and gave feedback on the alpha.
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