Seanfall422 Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 No idea what's going on here. I changed over from Skyre's main file to Perkus Maximus. And the game was running fine for a few days. Yesterday after work the game just crashes or freezes at a load screen, not infinite load screen just stops. When I try to exit a building. Pap log says at the end of the string, (around the time the freeze occurs) VM is freezing...VM is frozen. Which is for the Pause menu isn't it? Again everything was running fine. I even started a new save, got out of the Alternate start prison, to Frostfruit Inn. And the same thing occurs when I try to leave the inn. Before I cleaned a few things PAP log was looking for esp's for mods I uninstalled and removed before I did a big reinstall. I can post the PAP log if it's needed...but I have no idea where to start and end. It's all greek to me. Load Order Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unoffical Skyrim Patch.esm Dawnguard.esm Unoffical Dawnguard patch.esm HearthFires.esm Unoffical Hearthfires Patch.esm Dragonborn.esm Unoffical Dragonborn Patch.esm Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm Falskaar.esm Wyrmstooh.esm (esp I know but it counts as an esm so...*shrug*) hdtHighHeel.esm Lanterns of Skyrim - All in One - Main.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm SexLab.esm ZaZanimationPack.esm SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm SharedSerenaDialogue.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm Soulgem-oven.esp HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unoffical HIgh Resolution Patch.esp Pureweather.esp RelightingSkyrim.esp RelightingSkyrim_DB.esp JKs Skyrim.esp Realistic Water Two - Waves - Falskaar.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp Vivid Landscapes.esp TrueStorms.esp TrueStorms-PureWeather.esp Supreme Storms.esp TruStormsSupremeStorms-Vanilla.esp mintylightingmod.esp Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp Supreme Fog.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp SGEyebrows.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp SkyUI.esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp RelightingSkyrim_DG.esp (wonder why it's so low compard to the other Relighting mods...) SkyRe EEOEC.esp fallentreebridges.esp etheral_elven_Overhaul.esp zdd.esp HorrifiedFemalePrisons.esp WetandCold.esp WetandCold - Ashes.esp Civil War Overhaul.esp SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Light.esp MoonAndStar_MAS.esp aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp Captured Dreams.esp Water DG+DB.esp Holidays.esp SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp RealsticWaterTwo.esp RealsticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp RealsticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp RealsticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp WATER Falskaar.esp Cloaks.esp RelightingSkyrim_HF.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp (Tundra is misspelled....*Headdesk*) 1nivWICCloaks.esp 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp TwoRings.esp (bling bling.) Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp SexLabDangeousNights2.esp Devious Deviants.esp Devious Devices For Him.esp CinematicFireFX.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp SFO - Dragonborn.esp SkyRe_StandingSTones.esp Chesko_Frostfall.esp Marriable Serana.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp BetterVampires.esp RealsticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstoth.esp SkRe_EnemyAI.esp SpousesEnhanced.esp SexLabDefeat.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp (Because FUCK YOU DELPHINE!) Reaper's the Dark Tower.esp iNeed.esp (really thinking of uninstalling this one...it's fun, but really annoying at times.) SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp DragonbonBarbarianArmor.esp RosaFollower.esp My Home Is Your HOme.esp FalskaarFastTravel.esp FNISspells.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp Raven Witch Armor.esp Real Clouds.esp SpousesEnhanced_Serana.esp NusbieVoices.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp RSChildren - Complete.esp RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp Predator Vision.esp SexLab Romance.esp PerkusMaximus_Master.esp DeadlyDragons.esp Jug.esp display-model.esp Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp AncientDraugr.esp SOS Equipable Schlong.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp DD For Him - Captured Dreams Patch.esp Aranya.esp TrissArmorRetextured.esp CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp BTRH_Waifu.esp AK_RM_PubicStyles_All_In_One.esp zzEstrus.esp PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp PerMa Fixes.esp PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp The Huntsman.esp BloodmoonRising.esp Ursine Armor Pack.esp Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp Imperious - PerMa compatibility Patch.esp Imperious - EEO Compatibility Patch.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Alternate Start - Live a Deviant Life.esp PatchusMaximus.esp DualSheathReduxPatch.esp Also where does Loot or NMM store it's load order? Cause I just sat for half hour typing that out with NMM up.
spike4379 Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 im not that fantastic at error finding, can you load up a new game? if you can, then try loading your savegame while youre still at character creation. i have a similar issue where mine will crash loading the maingame unless i do that, same for alot of people
Zerosleepless Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 I don't know if this'll help but I used to have the exact same issue with skyre (CTD @ loadscreens while entering/leaving places) Basically i fixed it by re-running the reproccer with SUM and making a bashed patch with wrye bash. Game never crashed after. PS: load order is stored @: C:\Users\"username"\AppData\Local\Skyrim\plugins Appdata is usually a hidden file .
Seanfall422 Posted July 18, 2015 Author Posted July 18, 2015 Well since I'm not using Skyre's main file anymore, do I need to run reproccer? I run Patchus Maximus instead.
Zerosleepless Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 Run Patchus Maximus with SUM and the most important thing is making a bashed patch. SUM:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/29865/? Bashed Patch Pictorial Guide: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/36189/?
yatol Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 Pap log says at the end of the string, (around the time the freeze occurs) VM is freezing...VM is frozen. Which is for the Pause menu isn't it? nothing is write in the papyrus log when you ctd if you switch from skyre to perkus without restarting a game, that's asking for ctd
Seanfall422 Posted July 18, 2015 Author Posted July 18, 2015 It happened on the new game as well. The clean save in Frost fruit inn. Rorikstead I think. Brand new save after the other one's started crashing. Used SUM for Patchus and Dual Sheath Made a Bashed Patch using Wyre bash. The new save now crashes upon load. Wait I think I messed something up on my end....Reproccer was back in my load order. *deletes* okay lets re try this. Okay no Reproccer this time...wonder what I did to make that appear. Game loads...leaving inn and....it freezes on load screen again. >.>
Zerosleepless Posted July 19, 2015 Posted July 19, 2015 SkyRe EEOEC.esp ------> doesn't that patch require skyre_main ? how did u make it work? Try disabling the esp it in your mod organizer if not try disabling everything except: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unoffical Skyrim Patch.esm Dawnguard.esm Unoffical Dawnguard patch.esm HearthFires.esm Unoffical Hearthfires Patch.esm Dragonborn.esm Unoffical Dragonborn Patch.esm , perma , patchus esps and their masters (see if it's a compatibility issue) also try disabling the skyre modules(SkRe_EnemyAI.esp,SkyRe_StandingSTones.esp.....) the author said they could THEORETICALLY work with perma... I tend to agree with yatol ,perma is like a redux from skyre but they both alter many aspects of the game and i think it's difficult to switch from one to another in 1 play-through. You'll probably have to go through the whole ordeal of WIPING OUT skyrim and reinstalling everything .
Seanfall422 Posted July 19, 2015 Author Posted July 19, 2015 Reinstall...eeech....>.> Again? Since I'm using Imperious and patchus...maybe If I remove those mods... Since removing Skyre EEOEC seemed to make it load faster. Still froze at the Load screen. Skyrim Your starting to be more trouble then your worth. I have a Save Cleaner if that helps at all.
Zerosleepless Posted July 19, 2015 Posted July 19, 2015 did you try unchecking all mods except perma stuff ? just the esps in your mod manager if it doesn't freeze then it'd mean that one of your mods is conflicting with Perkus Maximus.
Seanfall422 Posted July 19, 2015 Author Posted July 19, 2015 Tried that....doesn't freeze just crashes to Desktop. This was on a fresh test save.
Zerosleepless Posted July 19, 2015 Posted July 19, 2015 CTD usually means u checked an esp but didn't check it's master
Seanfall422 Posted July 19, 2015 Author Posted July 19, 2015 Probably. The way it looks now I might have to resign myself to another....full....reinstall....>.O eeeachafrjdkfkasdlkdsfkldsfklsdfljasdfaskdjkljafsdfklkl I just had it working the way I wanted too to....I don't get what the issue is. If I did another another Reinstall it would have to wait to next week. I'm leaving on a trip in a few days. According to Wyre Bash Deivent Devices Integration and Expansion Captured Dreams Devious Deviant Devious Devices for him Sexlab Amorous Adventures RSchildren USKP Display Model Imperious PerMa comp patch Alternate Start - Live A Dievent Life And Patchus Maximus Are colored Orange which means all the packages are installed but the ESP's ESM's are not Identical. And that the Masters have been Re-ordered.
Zerosleepless Posted July 19, 2015 Posted July 19, 2015 Orange esps are generally not an issue (got plenty myself) If you want to fix those, load those esps in TesVEdit and click sort masters. Best of luck reinstalling
Seanfall422 Posted July 19, 2015 Author Posted July 19, 2015 Thanks. gonna be....'fun'. Like a brick to the face.
jacb Posted July 19, 2015 Posted July 19, 2015 If problem "only" with exterior cell loads, Skyrim might simply run out of its default memory... if you're not using stuff like SKSE memory patch. Symptoms are pretty smiliar in that case. Or scripts... Spouces Enhanced, for example, tends to spam its script a bit too much (unless you got patch from its support topic). This, in worst cases, can "ruin" any load after papyrus is fired up.
Seanfall422 Posted July 19, 2015 Author Posted July 19, 2015 Patch from Support topic? No I didn't get that. I was using SKSE Memory patch. I was using the one from That Dude guy however I just found this http://www.loverslab.com/topic/49735-spouses-enhanced-160-19-jul-2015-now-with-custom-follower-support/?do=findComment&comment=1247553 which was just updated July 19th of this year....>.<
jacb Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Patch from Support topic? No I didn't get that. I was using SKSE Memory patch. I was using the one from That Dude guy however I just found this http://www.loverslab.com/topic/49735-spouses-enhanced-160-19-jul-2015-now-with-custom-follower-support/?do=findComment&comment=1247553 which was just updated July 19th of this year....>.< Well, it was posted on july 7 in ThatDude's mod support thread. Guess that's one and the same, either way it stopped script spam in my case. So, if you are using memory patch, and it works, and you're not running out of memory (there's "memory blocks log" on nexus to check that). Then your problem either scripts or conflicting mods. I'm afraid you'll have to deal yourself with latter (unless someone would be willing to go over your list looking for compatibility patches you mioght have missed)... as for scripts, papyrus log would be helpful. To get it you'll need [Papyrus] bEnableLogging=1 bEnableTrace=1 bLoadDebugInformation=1 in your skyrim.ini (think NMM had its own ini editor? like all sane mod managers) with those three lines added, skyrim will create log somwhere in your documents/games/skyrim folder - not hard to find.
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