MidbossVyers Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Recently, my game has been crashed just after leaving the Temple of Miraak. Using the Papyrus Crash Log suggested here http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2791993 I found that the last line warning: Property WoodElfRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property NordRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property RedguardRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property OrcRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property KhajiitRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property ArgonianRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property DarkElfRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property HighElfRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property ImperialRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property BretonRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property HighElfRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property ArgonianRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property OrcRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property KhajiitRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property RedguardRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property BretonRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property WoodElfRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property ImperialRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property NordRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] warning: Property DarkElfRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:39PM] ERROR: Property DriftshadeSanctuaryAlias on script USKP_QF_ChangeLocation16_0300489C attached to USKPChangeLocation16 (0200489C) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (53) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type[05/10/2015 - 03:31:43PM] warning: Property Act_DoActionOnlyOnce on script DLC2dunNchardakPedestalScript attached to (0701D4C9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:31:56PM] Loading game...[05/10/2015 - 03:31:58PM] VM is thawing...[05/10/2015 - 03:31:58PM] USKP 2.1.1 Retroactive Updates Complete[05/10/2015 - 03:31:58PM] InitWidgetLoader()[05/10/2015 - 03:31:58PM] SexLab Loaded CurrentVerison: 15903[05/10/2015 - 03:31:58PM] UDGP 2.1.1 Retroactive Updates Complete[05/10/2015 - 03:31:58PM] UDBP 2.1.1 Retroactive Updates Complete[05/10/2015 - 03:32:00PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2[05/10/2015 - 03:32:09PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2[05/10/2015 - 03:32:14PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2[05/10/2015 - 03:32:32PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2[05/10/2015 - 03:32:44PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2[05/10/2015 - 03:32:49PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2[05/10/2015 - 03:32:54PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2[05/10/2015 - 03:32:59PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2[05/10/2015 - 03:33:04PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2[05/10/2015 - 03:33:09PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2[05/10/2015 - 03:33:16PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2[05/10/2015 - 03:33:21PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2[05/10/2015 - 03:33:40PM] warning: Replacing native function getCurrentIdle on unlinked object zzestrusutil.[05/10/2015 - 03:33:44PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2[05/10/2015 - 03:33:49PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2[05/10/2015 - 03:33:54PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2[05/10/2015 - 03:33:59PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2[05/10/2015 - 03:34:04PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2 involved the features of this mod: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/42564/? and because I actually rarely ever used the items from that mod, I decided to uninstall it. However, after doing so, the crash still occurred, and my crash log produced basically the same thing: warning: Property OrcRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property ImperialRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property RedguardRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property NordRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property KhajiitRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property BretonRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property WoodElfRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property ArgonianRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property HighElfRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property DarkElfRaceVampire on script PrvtIVampireLordScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property KhajiitRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property ArgonianRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property BretonRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property NordRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property DarkElfRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property OrcRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property HighElfRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property WoodElfRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property ImperialRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:23PM] warning: Property RedguardRace on script PrvtIVampiricScript attached to Item 1 in container (0001F593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/10/2015 - 03:24:24PM] ERROR: Property DriftshadeSanctuaryAlias on script USKP_QF_ChangeLocation16_0300489C attached to USKPChangeLocation16 (0200489C) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (53) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type[05/10/2015 - 03:24:39PM] Loading game...[05/10/2015 - 03:24:40PM] VM is thawing...[05/10/2015 - 03:24:40PM] InitWidgetLoader() [05/10/2015 - 03:24:40PM] SexLab Loaded CurrentVerison: 15903[05/10/2015 - 03:24:42PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2[05/10/2015 - 03:24:47PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2 Is the mod or some manner of leftover script still affecting my game even after uninstalling it, or does the problem lie elsewhere entirely? 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Gameplayer Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Pap logs don't detect crashes its a big monster of a misconception that has haunted modding forever. Removing a scripted mod will leave what is called orphan scripts. Those can cause crashes. For most users removing a mod without rolling back to a previous save is always bad. You might try a save cleaner. ----------------------------------------- I consider myself to be quite an advanced user and somewhat good mod author but even I have to start new games cause I jumped on a mod update band wagon and wrecked my own save progress. As a matter of fact I was forced to start a new game just last night >< My characters never seem to get to level very high. So point is, you can basically make so many changes that even a save cleaner isn't going to save your game. Link to comment
MidbossVyers Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 Well, the crash occurred while I had the mod installed. I only uninstalled it to try to stop that crash from happening... What is a save cleaner, and how does it work? Link to comment
Gameplayer Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 You could just reinstall the mod and not have to use a save game cleaner. google Skyrim Save Game Cleaner, Link to comment
Aensland_src Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Well, the crash occurred while I had the mod installed. I only uninstalled it to try to stop that crash from happening... What is a save cleaner, and how does it work? Doesn't matter if you uninstall a scripted mod, because the script is writen on your save file, and if you just uninstall the esp, the script sill will be on your save file, and then maybe that script will try to call functions or stuff that is not going to be there anymore and cause weird stuff and crashes, so... if you have a save before you installed that mod, better rollback to that save.... To avoid this, always make a save that you know is working right, then test the mods and if you find something weird you can comeback to that save and do not lost too much progress, as been said, you can use a save cleaner.... search it on Nexus... Save cleaner will show you your save files strcture and all the script written on it, and let you remove whatever you want... so you need to check the script files used by the mod causing trouble, check what is the name for these files, for example all files start with "PSO_MOD_", then you will search for that names on the save file and remove it... Link to comment
MidbossVyers Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 Ironically, I usually use at least 2 (in this particular case, exactly 2) saves per character for this very purpose. However, I tend to save every time I change cells. Therefore, the 2 saves in this particular save is right before leaving the Temple of Miraak and right outside the Temple of Miraak. In other words, fairly close, which apparently defeats the purpose of multiple saves. Also, I've actually had that mod for a while now, but my game only started crashing like this now. In terms of save cleaner, you are referring to this http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363/? but not this http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/31724/? correct? Also, nice avatar image. Link to comment
ToJKa Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Well apparently cleaning saves isn't recommendable with Skyrim either. The stuff they did with the script engine makes clean saves impossible, and it is best to not to uninstall any mods and continue playing with the saves. Some simple item adding mods may be removed, but even they can cause trouble. Best to stick with the same load order from start to finish. Back in Oblivion you could put in or take out pretty much anything without a second thought, but Skyrim is much more delicate. Link to comment
MidbossVyers Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 Thing is, I'm not even sure if the save script cleaner is even working properly. For example, when I loaded up my save using it, it said No Orphan Scripts Detected, but my Papyrus Log still says: [05/12/2015 - 03:05:20PM] Cannot open store for class "PrvtIKhajiitInvisibilityScript", missing file?[05/12/2015 - 03:05:20PM] warning: Unable to get type PrvtIKhajiitInvisibilityScript referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.[05/12/2015 - 03:05:20PM] Cannot open store for class "PrvtIVampireLordScript", missing file?[05/12/2015 - 03:05:20PM] warning: Unable to get type PrvtIVampireLordScript referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.[05/12/2015 - 03:05:20PM] Cannot open store for class "PrvtIVampiricScript", missing file?[05/12/2015 - 03:05:20PM] warning: Unable to get type PrvtIVampiricScript referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.[05/12/2015 - 03:05:20PM] warning: Could not find type PrvtIVampireLordScript in the type table in save[05/12/2015 - 03:05:20PM] warning: Could not find type PrvtIVampiricScript in the type table in save[05/12/2015 - 03:05:20PM] warning: Could not find type PrvtIKhajiitInvisibilityScript in the type table in save[05/12/2015 - 03:05:21PM] VM is thawing...[05/12/2015 - 03:05:22PM] InitWidgetLoader()[05/12/2015 - 03:05:22PM] SexLab Loaded CurrentVerison: 15903[05/12/2015 - 03:05:24PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2[05/12/2015 - 03:05:29PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2 If there are no orphan scripts detected, why does the save still know "PrvtI" anything? Or do I need to delete those manually? Link to comment
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