Problem with the Unofficial Patches fast help please

[Anurabis]

So I started using the unofficial patches after I only heard good thing about them knowing that they are a bunch of bugfixes and stuff and since things like Corrected Heights by Erundil and Sexlab Solutions have them as a requirement however I run into trouble using them instead of fixing any bugs they caused bugs I never had before (I'm using MO btw) a few examples for the bugs:

1. Draugrs in their Crypts aren't coming out of their coffins they are already in the room and the coffins are empty

2. Some quests following up to previous quests don't start the labyrinthion quest from the mages guild didn't start I couldn't even start it from the console altough I got all the items Mirabelle Ervine had no Dialoque options for this case etc.

3. The game flagged the player as essential which lead to a problem with Death Alternative which again lead to trouble with SD+ and Defeat (I asked for help with this earlier thinking it was a bug in defeat turned out it wasn't)

4. some other bugs I can't quite remember

 

Take note those bugs never appeared on Savegames NOT using the unofficial patches in my game I currently ceased playing Skyrim due to that and I really wanna start again but when I think about how the unofficial patches wrecked my game I lose the desire to do so

 

Here's my Load Order I hope you can help me quickly

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

SGHairPackBase.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

CreatureFramework.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

SexLab.esm

Devious Devices - Assets.esm

PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

Devious Devices - Integration.esm

daymoyl.esm

Devious Devices - Expansion.esm

hdtHighHeel.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

RaceMenuOverlays.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-WinterEdition.esp

Immersive NPC in the dark.esp

iHUD.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Osare Maid Outfit.esp

BS-TheHag_WarPaints.esp

RaceMenu - Norse Tattoos.esp

AZS03SexLabHdtHighHeels.esp

HelmetToggle2.02b.esp

FoxySkyrim.esp

ScarletDawnArmor.esp

NewmillerDarkVampKnight.esp

The Coenaculi_Makeup.esp

AncientDraugr.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

SexLabStopCombat.esp

Brows.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch.esp

Osare OnePiece.esp

Osare Swimsuit.esp

12FemaleBrows.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

Eyes of Aber.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-6.esp

SlaveTats.esp

UIExtensions.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp

MoreNastyCritters.esp

ElderOutfit.esp

Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

DibellanDefender.esp

SOSRaceMenu.esp

KTABladeOfWoe.esp

Animated Dragon Wings.esp

DreamBurrowsSageOutfit.esp

DeviouslyHelpless.esp

EstrusChaurus.esp

DF_T33.esp

FemaleMannequinsNord.esp

GagSFX.esp

GagSFXDawnguard.esp

GagSFXHearthfires.esp

FNISSexyMove.esp

GagSFXDragonborn.esp

ORM-Arvak.esp

dc-mana-tanks-000.esp

Zipsuit.esp

Hentai_mixed_Armor.esp

NS_NobleDress.esp

ImmersiveFP.esp

MagicNipple.esp

KS Hairdo's.esp

NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp

RutahTattooPack.esp

Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp

NobleWeddingDressByUrshi.esp

Neithteam Warpaint.esp

MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp

RaceMenu.esp

TrueStorms.esp

TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

SOS Equipable Schlong.esp

RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

SSv2.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

RealShelter.esp

sanguinesDebauchery.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

SD Cages.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp

Akavari Katana Re_borne.esp

DarkReplacer.esp

Merta Assassin Armor.esp

SexLab_DibellaCult.esp

Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp

SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp

Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

SDpatch - frostfall.esp

SGHairPackAIO.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

SaturationBoost.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

Tembtra Thief Armor.esp

SexLab Warmbodies.esp

Unique Uniques.esp

SexLabDefeat.esp

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp

HentaiCreatures.esp

Cloaks.esp

Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp

Populated Forts Towers Places.esp

Devious Deviants.esp

Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp

soulgem-oven.esp

SMIM-Merged-All.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

SexLabDangerousNights.esp

SexLab_Dialogues.esp

TBBP_Ribbon_Armor.esp

Shaydows VampireLord Replacer OVERHAUL.esp

Shaydows WereWolf Replacer OVERHAUL.esp

SkyUI.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp

SpousesEnhanced.esp

Devious Cidhna.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

Gwelda Armor Pack.esp

FNISspells.esp

ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Cities - Falkreath.esp

Emfy Cleric Robes.esp

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp

Supreme Fog - CoT.esp

Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp

Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp

TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp

Ursine Armor Pack.esp

VindictusMixRobes.esp

WildHuntress.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

zzEstrus.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

SexLabSolutions_LAL_Patch.esp

RSPatch.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

If you need a papyrus log just tell me then I'll start the game to get one fast

Edit: Fixed the Load order this is how it actually looks for whatever reason it's all out of order when I copy it from a backup created trough MO

[azmodan22]

If those bugs are in a savegame that does NOT use the unnoficial patch, why dont you try to install them. Mind you that is also good to wait 24h ingame after you load the game with them for the first time or after updating them.

[Anurabis]

If those bugs are in a savegame that does NOT use the unnoficial patch, why dont you try to install them. Mind you that is also good to wait 24h ingame after you load the game with them for the first time or after updating them.

 

Thanks for the advice I heard the unofficial patches only take effect in games started with them so I started a fresh game with them. No those bugs do not appear in savegames without the unofficial patches it's the exact opposite they ONLY appear in savegames with the unofficial patches which confuses me since they are supposed to be bugfixes and not bug causers D:

 

If it does help in any way the save game had roughly 72-80 hours gameplay and it was around lvl 30

[yatol]

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

SGHairPackBase.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

CreatureFramework.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

SexLab.esm

Devious Devices - Assets.esm

PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

Devious Devices - Integration.esm

daymoyl.esm

Devious Devices - Expansion.esm

hdtHighHeel.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

 

if x is broken in skyrim esm

but dawnguard edit x and this time it work, that error isn't a problem

 

but if you put the unof patch after dawnguard, and it fix x, the game will load that, so you lose dawnguard edit for x

you just broke your game

[Anurabis]

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

SGHairPackBase.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

CreatureFramework.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

SexLab.esm

Devious Devices - Assets.esm

PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

Devious Devices - Integration.esm

daymoyl.esm

Devious Devices - Expansion.esm

hdtHighHeel.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

 

if x is broken in skyrim esm

but dawnguard edit x and this time it work, that error isn't a problem

 

but if you put the unof patch after dawnguard, and it fix x, the game will load that, so you lose dawnguard edit for x

you just broke your game

 

Don't worry the esp aren't actually sorted like that each unofficial patchs is after it's countepart i have no fucking clue why it always looks like this when i copy it but when i look into the esp list in mod organizer it's in order that's not the problem

[Anurabis]

Does nobody have any Idea what's causing this? D:

[nutluck]

One thing you need to do is change your load order. I am not saying this will for sure fix the problems but it sure won't hurt. If you use LOOT it should put them in the correct order but the unofficial patches need to be in the right load order to work correctly. Most of the bugs you have, I have not only never seen but never heard of and everyone I know uses the unofficial patches.

 

The load order they should be in.

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

then the rest of your mods after this.

 

Edit: Fixed a small error I had one of the mods out of load order, this one is correct now.

[Anurabis]

One thing you need to do is change your load order. I am not saying this will for sure fix the problems but it sure won't hurt. If you use LOOT it should put them in the correct order but the unofficial patches need to be in the right load order to work correctly. Most of the bugs you have, I have not only never seen but never heard of and everyone I know uses the unofficial patches.

 

The load order they should be in.

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

then the rest of your mods after this.

 

Edit: Fixed a small error I had one of the mods out of load order, this one is correct now.

 

I already said I have them in that order Mod Organizer always seems to misplace them when I create a backup of the load order but I alway run loot after making a backup

[nutluck]

Just seems strange it is showing that way on one of the lists though. It makes me wonder if it really is doing it correctly like you think. It should show it in the correct order in all places I believe.

 

Of your problems, I have never had nor heard of the first two issues happening so no clue.

 

As for the 3rd one that sounds like a DA or SD+ issue or the settings off. I know if you use DA with defeat you have to change some of the settings or you get weird bugs. It is possible that is the case with DA and SD+ which might be that issue.

[wulfgear09]

 I had the coffin problem and a reinstall of the fnis beast pack and more nasty critters fixed it.

[Anurabis]

Just seems strange it is showing that way on one of the lists though. It makes me wonder if it really is doing it correctly like you think. It should show it in the correct order in all places I believe.

 

Of your problems, I have never had nor heard of the first two issues happening so no clue.

 

As for the 3rd one that sounds like a DA or SD+ issue or the settings off. I know if you use DA with defeat you have to change some of the settings or you get weird bugs. It is possible that is the case with DA and SD+ which might be that issue.

 

As for showing it in a wrong way on one of the list that was when I copied the load order from a backup I made with MO

 

I already stated in the original post that neither Death Alternative nor SD+ or defeat where the issue something unrelated to those flagged my pc as essential simply flagging my pc as non-essential fixed this however the issue is not about the bugs i stated earlier it's about whatever in my game does fight with the unofficial patches and causes those bugs because they never appeared in a savegame before I installed the unofficial patches (which was about a week ago and made me cease playing it until I find the problem.

 

All other mods worked fine before

 I had the coffin problem and a reinstall of the fnis beast pack and more nasty critters fixed it.

That may help thanks altough that's a bug I could live with it's simply better if it's as normal