sanguine debauchery, devious devices, confusion, etc.

[speckledsnake]

Ok I'm reading through this, and holy hell are there a lot of options. I can't figure out what I need.

 

Right now I use SLFW with the zaz animation pack, non-SL animations, and SOS. I have matchmaker, for forcing some action when I want, and random sex, set only to followers, so that sometimes I happen upon them in my home, banging it out.

 

I don't even know exactly what I'm trying to ask- basically, I'd love to use Sanguine Debauchery, but I already have a lot going on in my modlist, and really, I don't want (the majority) of the sexual content (at least in this playthrough) to be so overt. I think I could run simply Devious Devices - Assets, Devious Devices - Expansion, and Devious Devices - Integration, except here too, Integration apparently adds quests (and in addition, it requires SexLab Aroused, which imposes "Sexual Arousal - for ALL Skyrim residents" [don't want this], and "Lover's Desire - player will find it difficult to focus if aroused" [also don't want]).

 

What I'm looking for, is having access to restraining devices, gags, collars, things like that - maybe a few spells for teasing or torture - perhaps be able to put up (in town, or better, in my player home) the wooden frames that shackle head/wrists, bind a follower, and then use some of the (what I presume exist?) devious tools to pleasure/pain them...

 

That is - is it possible (and if so, by which mods) to add more sexual content/hardware/spells to the game (the way matchmaker does, e.g.), without retooling my entire game with quests/storylines/etc that I don't want?

 

I'm having a hard time formulating this question - hopefully its at least marginally coherent.

 

Thanks for any help.

[Content Consumer]

I think what you're looking for is this mod. It does require SL Aroused, but aroused is just a sort of tracker mod... it doesn't actually do anything on its own, and Display Model doesn't have to use anything from aroused if you don't want (that is, the features of display model that require aroused can be ignored). Combine it with Devious Devices and you'll have equipment to put on your follower(s) or slave(s), and a place to put them too.

[speckledsnake]

I think what you're looking for is this mod. It does require SL Aroused, but aroused is just a sort of tracker mod... it doesn't actually do anything on its own, and Display Model doesn't have to use anything from aroused if you don't want (that is, the features of display model that require aroused can be ignored). Combine it with Devious Devices and you'll have equipment to put on your follower(s) or slave(s), and a place to put them too.

Bravo, you. This is exactly what I'm looking for.

 

Now, if its not too much to ask a follow-up:

 

1. Once I have an NPC restricted (with this mod, or any other I guess), is there a mod that will either add dildos/whips/feathers/whatever, that I can use on the bound NPCs, and/or, at least maybe some sort of spell pack to stimulate them, etc? What I mean is, is the extent of this just tying them up, or are there mods that add ways to stimulate NPCs while bound?

 

Thanks again for response.

[Content Consumer]

By "stimulate" do you mean a sort of animated interaction, or something? There are some items like whips and canes that you can use to punish them, but if you're looking to sexually pleasure someone in the stocks with a dildo (for example), I'm afraid you're out of luck... mostly. There aren't many furniture-based animations out there. There are a few, though, and I believe that they're all in the zaz 6.0 pack... I haven't used Display Model for a while now, I can't remember if there's anything specifically there that uses those animations.

[speckledsnake]

By "stimulate" do you mean a sort of animated interaction, or something? There are some items like whips and canes that you can use to punish them, but if you're looking to sexually pleasure someone in the stocks with a dildo (for example), I'm afraid you're out of luck... mostly. There aren't many furniture-based animations out there. There are a few, though, and I believe that they're all in the zaz 6.0 pack... I haven't used Display Model for a while now, I can't remember if there's anything specifically there that uses those animations.

Well, punishment is a start, I guess? That's half the battle anyway. Should I be hunting around on LL for such mods, or, are (e.g. whips) included in I'll Take The Display Model? I don't see any mention of this on the Display Model description page.

 

I don't mean to be asking you to do my homework for me! I'm trying to sort this all out, but there's a lot of info out there and if people already know this stuff thoroughly enough to be able to answer (as you have), then its worth at least asking.

 

Thanks again.

[Content Consumer]

I think that zaz pack has the whips/canes/cat-o-nine-tails/etc. Pretty sure, anyway. They're in my game (not something you can buy, but they're there as assets... try coc to zbftestzone and they should be in a chest, or just add them to inventory via player.additem) and used by a few mods.

[speckledsnake]

I think that zaz pack has the whips/canes/cat-o-nine-tails/etc. Pretty sure, anyway. They're in my game (not something you can buy, but they're there as assets... try coc to zbftestzone and they should be in a chest, or just add them to inventory via player.additem) and used by a few mods.

Thanks a ton for all your help.

 

Your blog is hilarious, btw.

[Content Consumer]

Thanks a ton for all your help.

 

No problem.

 

 

 

Your blog is hilarious, btw.

 

 

I never get tired of hearing that.

[speckledsnake]

 

Thanks a ton for all your help.

 

No problem.

 

 

 

Your blog is hilarious, btw.

 

 

I never get tired of hearing that.

 

 

Welp, I checked zbftestzone, and there was a chest, but only some ball gags in there, and a couple other items - no whips/cat-o-nine-tails/etc/anything that could actively be used. Any guesses what other mod you might be getting those from? I googled a bit, but no luck.

 

I looked via console at lists of idles (whenever I put one of my followers into confinement (e.g. cage, pillory, etc) via the Display Model spells, they just sit there, cool as a cucumber, no reaction whatsoever) so I thought maybe I needed to confine them first, and then somehow manually activate an idle on them. I found a bunch of interesting-sounding idles, chair-spank-this-or-that, but I can't get them to trigger on my followers. I tried getting a follower confined in a few different "accessible" positions, thinking that maybe I could then trigger a corresponding animation by matchmaker or some other way, but to no avail.

 

Is most of this (all these pillories/floor wheels/etc/etc/etc just eye candy)? Is this what you meant by there not being many furniture animations? I can put a follower on a crucifix, but she's just going to stare blankly and bored, and neither I nor she can really do much of anything to her except passively ogle her predicament? I mean when I tried out hentai creatures, followers would at least register emotional response, and sob into their hands after being violated by a Riekling. Here, they're hanging from their ankles upside down by rusted cuffs, restrained and exposed, and yet acting as disaffected as they would were they drinking tea and doing a crossword.

 

I'm so lost. I have to be missing something.

 

If you happen to come back by, here is my ridiculously unnecessary list of sex-related mods installed to this point- can you see what I'm doing wrong?

 

SexLab Framework

Zaz Animation Pack

Zaz Animation Pack Textures

Non SexLab Animations

Schlongs of Skyrim

SexLab Random Sex

SexLab Matchmaker

SexLab Aroused

SexLab Display Model

Skyrim Strapons

Devious Devices Assets

Devious Devices Integration

Devious Devices Expansion

 

If I go full tilt and turn on all the features of SL Aroused, activate the options for Devious Devices quests, etc, does it breathe any life into all this content I've installed (or at least give me some way of activating some of these intriguingly-titled idles I can see in the console)? I'd really rather not, but hey, I'm early in my playthrough. I can screw up a game and start over if its in the name of learning.

[Content Consumer]

 

Welp, I checked zbftestzone, and there was a chest, but only some ball gags in there, and a couple other items - no whips/cat-o-nine-tails/etc/anything that could actively be used. Any guesses what other mod you might be getting those from? I googled a bit, but no luck.

 

Hmm... looking up the items themselves in the console, it appears that they are coming from zaz animation pack, but you're right, they're not in the chests in zbftestzone. Try searching the console for "cane" and "nine" and adding the items artificially. The items are used in some animations from, for example, sanguine's debauchery and prison overhaul too.

 

I looked via console at lists of idles (whenever I put one of my followers into confinement (e.g. cage, pillory, etc) via the Display Model spells, they just sit there, cool as a cucumber, no reaction whatsoever) so I thought maybe I needed to confine them first, and then somehow manually activate an idle on them. I found a bunch of interesting-sounding idles, chair-spank-this-or-that, but I can't get them to trigger on my followers. I tried getting a follower confined in a few different "accessible" positions, thinking that maybe I could then trigger a corresponding animation by matchmaker or some other way, but to no avail.

 

Honestly? I have no idea how to trigger animations by themselves. I just use whatever the mods give me... for example, prison overhaul uses the pillory for the "broom punishment" animation.

And (not helpful to you, sorry), they do all seem to be designed for the player as a receiver rather than a giver. I remember reading that some animators are working on more varied animations for these pieces of furniture, but I can't remember where, or who.

 

Is most of this (all these pillories/floor wheels/etc/etc/etc just eye candy)? Is this what you meant by there not being many furniture animations? I can put a follower on a crucifix, but she's just going to stare blankly and bored, and neither I nor she can really do much of anything to her except passively ogle her predicament? I mean when I tried out hentai creatures, followers would at least register emotional response, and sob into their hands after being violated by a Riekling. Here, they're hanging from their ankles upside down by rusted cuffs, restrained and exposed, and yet acting as disaffected as they would were they drinking tea and doing a crossword.

 

Yeah, that's what I meant. There's just not much out there... yet. The only thing you can really do to someone when they're on a cross or whatever is use paddles to smack at them... and that's not really a specific animation thing (the paddle/nine/etc is treated as a weapon that does 0 damage, but should leave punishment marks like bruises or whip marks when used as a weapon). And if you do whack at them, they pretty much just stand there, not even changing expression.

 

I'm so lost. I have to be missing something.

 

If you happen to come back by, here is my ridiculously unnecessary list of sex-related mods installed to this point- can you see what I'm doing wrong?

 

SexLab Framework

Zaz Animation Pack

Zaz Animation Pack Textures

Non SexLab Animations

Schlongs of Skyrim

SexLab Random Sex

SexLab Matchmaker

SexLab Aroused

SexLab Display Model

Skyrim Strapons

Devious Devices Assets

Devious Devices Integration

Devious Devices Expansion

 

If you want sexual content to be under your full control at all times, then I'd recommend turning off Sexlab Random Sex... other than that, everything seems to be fine. 

Animation pack and Non-Sexlab Animations basically just add in animations as resources that other mods, like Matchmaker, can use (and if there are any you don't like, you can toggle them on/off in Sexlab's MCM).

The features of Aroused that are used by the other mods shouldn't actually do anything to your game... Aroused is just a passive mod that keeps track of an integer value for the PC and any nearby NPCs. Some mods do things like triggering certain effects when a specific arousal value is reached (like SL Release), but your mods... Devious Devices and Display Model only uses it to increase this value faster when being tied up. In fact, it's the only difference between Display Model v9 and v8, so if you want to get rid of Aroused and DD, you can just downgrade to Display Model 8.

Schlongs of Skyrim - I haven't ever actually used this mod, so I dunno.

Skyrim Strapons - ditto

Devious Devices (assets, integration, expansion): These are pretty much only useful to you if you want to put your NPCs (or PC) in specific bondage gear like harnesses, collars, etc. I don't see any other mods you have that actually use them. The DD Expansion mod in particular is the one I think you don't want, because all it does (IIRC) is add in quests related to DD content (and again, these quests treat the player as the target).

 

If I go full tilt and turn on all the features of SL Aroused, activate the options for Devious Devices quests, etc, does it breathe any life into all this content I've installed (or at least give me some way of activating some of these intriguingly-titled idles I can see in the console)? I'd really rather not, but hey, I'm early in my playthrough. I can screw up a game and start over if its in the name of learning.

 

For what you've got there, no, sorry.

What you're looking for is for the PC to be the one dishing out pain or pleasure as you see fit, right? Most SL mods so far are built the other way around. AFAIK, the only real thing you can do now is lock up followers or slaves and then smack at them with punishment weapons.

Of course, my knowledge may be a bit out of date... around here, things often update on a daily basis, and what was true even a week ago may not be true today.

 

[speckledsnake]

 

Hmm... looking up the items themselves in the console, it appears that they are coming from zaz animation pack, but you're right, they're not in the chests in zbftestzone. Try searching the console for "cane" and "nine" and adding the items artificially. The items are used in some animations from, for example, sanguine's debauchery and prison overhaul too.

 

 

Ha. I searched "whip" in the console, and saw nothing corresponding - I didn't even think to try "cane" or "cat".

 

 

Honestly? I have no idea how to trigger animations by themselves. I just use whatever the mods give me... for example, prison overhaul uses the pillory for the "broom punishment" animation.

And (not helpful to you, sorry), they do all seem to be designed for the player as a receiver rather than a giver. I remember reading that some animators are working on more varied animations for these pieces of furniture, but I can't remember where, or who.

 

 

Yar. I really wanted the ability to just give some pain/pleasure to my followers from time to time (as opposed to actually modding my game too heavily with [e.g. Prison Overhaul] gameplay-changing elements). Ah well.

 

 

If you want sexual content to be under your full control at all times, then I'd recommend turning off Sexlab Random Sex...

 

 

I have it set to "followers only" (I installed it so that they could randomly get busy once in a while, and since I only take one follower with me on quests, it works nicely to achieve the "coming home and finding a couple of them going at it" effect).

 

Welp, I'll keep a watchful eye for new mods, or maybe one day take the initiative and try my hand at creating one.

 

Thanks again for your thorough effort in helping me sort this all out!