CTD The Final Frontier - Save game crash out of nowhere.

[Bottlesoldier]

Yeah, sorry, you guys probably get a dozen of these a day, but I'm running out of options and I'm about to lose this sweet Breton I ended up getting so much attached to.

So, the game crashes when I try to load it. It also happens with previows save games of the same character and another save game with a character based on the Elin race, But 2 other characters load just as fine as ever, one based of the same body from my dear Breton and another of the Ninghem race. It doesn't make sense because it looks like the kind of error I used to get back when I was still figuring out which bodies go with what skeletons. But it can't be because I can start another character and setup the same features from the same body on another save. I can even load the same presets from the ECE slot and have an identical looking character.

 

This crash caught me completly off guard because I haven't messed with bodies and skeleton files in a while, playing only with the ENB setups, I was still getting freezes, not often, but I hoped to get rid of it. So I kept on pressing enblocal.ini and the dll files from Sheron.
Since the error also happens to older freezes, that suggests it is in my data files. But being able to setup the same body in another save game and play it fine also suggests it's not on those files.

To which point I ended up getting obsessed with the save file and run quite a huge amount of tests (always saving a new save game) through Save Game Cleaner but with no success, which kinda seemed odd because the game would crash "almost" as soon I confirm the load game regardless of what I do to the save file, so I ended up rulling out the save game as a potential cause.

I have been using PNENB and it has not being easy to make the game stable, in fact I never reach a point of full stability (as some people seem to point out on ENB dedicated forums), I went with memory settings and first son sacrifices back and forth, and back to hell and back again untill I ended up uninstalling the whole of ENB and it just doesn't make a difference (which isn't bad cause I get a minor fps raise with it)

 

The one thing I did before this crash came up was to download the Creation kit. But that's it, I never even compile anything and the corrupt came up.

Even tried removing all my mods and using Steams file validation on Skyrim to have it back to Vanilla, didn't help, never thought it would to begin with...

 

I can't think of enything else right now, so I'll just post the load order (altho it's different by now thanks to stressfull attempts at troubleshoting)

Load order back when the crash started:

 

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
SexLab.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
TeraElinRace.esm
FoxHome_X.esm
daymoyl.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
AzarHair.esm
PNENB.esp
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
SkyUI.esp
The Ningheim.esp
TemptressVixen.esp
Sexlab_Mortality.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
Witch Of The Wild.esp
sextoys-calyps-2.esp
DCSorceress.esp
leia.esp
Neo's Mandu Armours.esp
R18Pn - Fiona Armor.esp
R18pn - lingerie Set.esp
MashupUNP.esp
Osare Culort Outfit.esp
Osare HeadPhone 2nd.esp
Qasmoke.esp
Strap.esp
Brows.esp
Osare Maid Outfit.esp
Osare SchoolUniform.esp
dgMusicalMayhem.esp
Sunglasses_WF.esp
TearofAbyss.esp
Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp
Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp
WRcanalhome.esp
Aradia Lingerie Dress.esp
Aradia Lingerie Dress v0.2.1.esp
magicmoonsp.esp
GraveStrider.esp
RumbleRose.esp
SexyMix.esp
MalibuBikini.esp
TS_RogueOutfits.esp
XXXqinglangHH.esp
Facelight.esp
fox33 Armor.esp
GDZZJJDH.esp
CharacterMakingExtender.esp
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp
Young_Trap.esp
FNISspells.esp
Abigail The Maid.esp
NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
TMRCosplay.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp
Skyrim_Strap_Ons.esp
BlacktalonArmorV11UNP.esp
Lady of Death.esp
Osare Part Armor.esp
Tembtra Thief Armor.esp
Pretty Combat Idles.esp
Pretty Female Idles.esp
Pretty Poses And Animations.esp
DreamBurrowsSageOutfit.esp
RayeksEnd.esp
Knight Of Thorns Armor.esp
S7B Mavari.esp
OrcishMaskedHelmet.esp
CompetitionSwimsuit.esp
NiaOutfitBBP.esp
LeatherHarness - Bombshell.esp
ShellBondage - Bombshell.esp
Osare Underwear.esp
Weather Spell.esp
VioLens.esp
Shiny Catsuits.esp
Ballet Boots.esp
HDT Capes.esp
kuzak-bodyandstockings.esp
LadyKdCirclets.esp
SC_KhajiitMorphs.esp
WerewolfMastery.esp
Pinup Poser.esp
Aradia Living Armour.esp

 

Papyrus log:

 

[01/10/2015 - 10:29:25AM] Papyrus log opened (PC)
[01/10/2015 - 10:29:25AM] error: Native function GetUseSound in empty state does not match existing signature on linked type Potion. Function will not be bound.
[01/10/2015 - 10:29:25AM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)
[01/10/2015 - 10:29:25AM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[01/10/2015 - 10:29:50AM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1vampireturnscript", missing file?
[01/10/2015 - 10:29:50AM] Cannot open store for class "follower3dnpc", missing file?
[01/10/2015 - 10:29:50AM] Cannot open store for class "slaResetScr", missing file?
[01/10/2015 - 10:29:50AM] Cannot open store for class "_MortalityDispelEffect", missing file?
[01/10/2015 - 10:29:50AM] Cannot open store for class "_RDMDepressionApplicifier", missing file?
[01/10/2015 - 10:29:50AM] Cannot open store for class "_MortalityDepressionScript", missing file?
[01/10/2015 - 10:29:50AM] Cannot open store for class "_RDMCloakOptimizer", missing file?
[01/10/2015 - 10:29:50AM] Cannot open store for class "_MoralityImagespace", missing file?
[01/10/2015 - 10:29:50AM] ERROR: Unable to bind script _MoralityImagespace to _MortalityQuest (12000D62) because their base types do not match
[01/10/2015 - 10:29:51AM] ERROR: Unable to bind script MoreNastyCrittersAlias to MoreNastyCritters (39000D62) because their base types do not match
[01/10/2015 - 10:30:11AM] ERROR: Unable to bind script _RDMCloakOptimizer to alias PlyAlias on quest _MortalityQuest (12000D62) because their base types do not match
[01/10/2015 - 10:30:11AM] ERROR: Unable to bind script sslNSLAnimationAlias to alias SexLabNSLAliasToPlayer on quest SexLabQuestNSLAnimations (36004338) because their base types do not match
[01/10/2015 - 10:30:11AM] ERROR: Property PlayableRaceList on script GenericRaceController attached to NingheimRaceController (10002F9E) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (10000D62) is not the right type
[01/10/2015 - 10:30:11AM] ERROR: Property PlayableVampireList on script GenericRaceController attached to NingheimRaceController (10002F9E) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (10000D63) is not the right type
[01/10/2015 - 10:30:12AM] warning: Property Alias_Marker on script QF_WOTW_MainQuest_FF016C8D attached to WOTW_MainQuest (14016C8D) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/10/2015 - 10:30:15AM] VM is freezing...
[01/10/2015 - 10:30:15AM] VM is frozen
[01/10/2015 - 10:30:15AM] Reverting game...
[01/10/2015 - 10:30:15AM] ERROR: Unable to bind script MoreNastyCrittersAlias to MoreNastyCritters (39000D62) because their base types do not match
[01/10/2015 - 10:30:15AM] ERROR: Unable to bind script _MoralityImagespace to _MortalityQuest (12000D62) because their base types do not match
[01/10/2015 - 10:30:15AM] ERROR: Unable to bind script _RDMCloakOptimizer to alias PlyAlias on quest _MortalityQuest (12000D62) because their base types do not match
[01/10/2015 - 10:30:15AM] ERROR: Unable to bind script sslNSLAnimationAlias to alias SexLabNSLAliasToPlayer on quest SexLabQuestNSLAnimations (36004338) because their base types do not match
[01/10/2015 - 10:30:16AM] warning: Property Alias_Marker on script QF_WOTW_MainQuest_FF016C8D attached to WOTW_MainQuest (14016C8D) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/10/2015 - 10:30:16AM] ERROR: Property PlayableRaceList on script GenericRaceController attached to NingheimRaceController (10002F9E) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (10000D62) is not the right type
[01/10/2015 - 10:30:16AM] ERROR: Property PlayableVampireList on script GenericRaceController attached to NingheimRaceController (10002F9E) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (10000D63) is not the right type

 

[myuhinny]

Have you tried starting the game and when it gets to the slection screen with new load continue hit the console button ~ and type in coc qasmoke this will warp you to the test area once there try slecting the save Have you tried restarting the computer and see if that fixes it?

[Bottlesoldier]

Just tried it. Crashed. As soon as I clicked to load the crashing game.

 

But I tried something else this time...
So I have other characters that load just fine. And from there, I can even load the same racemenu slot/preset from the broken character on another character.

But if I load that preset from racemenu, save a game and load this new save game (with the Racemenu preset from the broken character) it Crashes again :/
Finally a direction, it appears to be related to the ECE slot inside the save game. But I have no idea how to fix it (even if I edit the preset, that doesn't change what's saved inside the broken save game).

On another note, I recall being somewhat locked out of 1st person view last night. It didn't bother me because a similar error happened, and I assumed it had something to do with ENBs handling, which fixed itself when I closed the game and started it again. But I dunno if this last "locked out of 1st person view" could have affected the save game in any way.

[myuhinny]

Were you doing poses and changed posed while in TFC mode? Were you in a sex animation or any type of animation while in TFC? When you lost first person did you also lose other controls as well?

 

If you were in TFC mode during any of those that can cause the locked out of first person thing as well as loosing other controls as well at times. 

 

Have you run LOOT for load order and TES5EDIT to see if there is any problems with the load order or other problems that it might list?

[Bottlesoldier]

Now that you mentioned. I was at a dungeon last night, and tried to run through it as werewolf, didn't work out, CP got knocked out and went into bleeding and raped, managed to scaped, stood to armor + swords, slayed. some time afterwards I noticed I couldn't go back to 1st person...

I use Wrye Bash, it's been pretty trustworth this far. it kinda of sorts out the load orders as it disables mods if I remove a previowsly requied mod. also did run TES5EDIT...

Right now things seem to be pointing to ECE or some race menu related files thanks to that test from the last post. Which would be very disapointing if true. I came to trust ECE over time, and haven't changed/added/deleted any race/skeleton/body files for around a month. (Except SC Khajiit) but they're just textures... And the locked out of 1st person view seens suspicious somehow...

Edit:-----------------------
ECE seens to be the culprit. which is very odd. This mod has been stable and trustworthy to me for around a month. It doesn't make any sense, how could it break? No matter what the files instalation order, nor the esp load order are, the game crashes on certain saves with ECEs files instaled, even if I desable ECEs esps...

Can a mod even break over time, by itself? I'm still trying to get ECE back to work again. it seens a lil helpless tho.

 

Most importantly I got my Breton back =3 sue she doesn't look as good as before (lacking ece), but getting the character back is main. I can deal with not using ECE. (I just don't buy how could ECE break out of a sudden)