brandnewmodder7 Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 OK, ill try to make this short and sweet. Im new to modding and i need help finding a few things, and im hoping you fine gentlemen, and gentlewomen, equality, can help me out. I need to find: 1- Jiggle. Ive been using a slider mod that allows body editing(ill avoid saying the name cause i just tried to make a post and i said i was linking to something) and need something to make the girls dance a little bit. Well, dance ALOT. Also can said mod ectend to the belly and butt? 2- Belly- In said mod when adjusting the belly size, it dosent create a belly so much as jut it straight out. im looking for something that makes it more realistic, like you would see on a, ahem, much bigger gal. 3- Collision- At least i think thats what i need. Right now, since im using AP, the bodies kinds blend into each other. Now i get the whole 'tow bodies become one' mindset, but damn. Is there a mod that will make bodies, and parts, respond realistically to each other? 4- Males- While using the AP the men only appear wearing their... Kilt? Loincloth? Whatever it is, i need it gone. How can i get guys to, ehhhh, show the goods? Also, is their a mod slider mod for men? Cause i want to build a guy with a feminine figure. And i mean REALLY feminine. 5- Different Bodies. Right now, when entering into an action with another female, the second the NPC's clothes come off their body changes to match mine. How does one prevent this? Further more, how can one directly change the body types of npcs? 6- Voices- While using the AP their are voices, obviously, but i want more of one kind in particular. During interactions females will make a giggiling, squealing sound which is right up my alley. How can i get more of that? And thats is, sorry for the long request. Last question, can i install mods from this site with a different manager? And if not, how do i make the lovelab and said other manager work together? Thanks for any help i get. Praise the sun, for the glory of the interweebs.
l33tMan Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Well, here's what I use. I'll try to clarify stuff along the way 1) Go on Nexusmods. I know it has a bad reputation lately because of the modders leaving and stuff, but it is the biggest stockpile of the best mods, save SexLab and SteamWorkshop exclusives. When the site finally loads the correct way, open the search dialog and search for 'cbbe'. This should land you with the most recent entries and open the advanced search options on the right side of the page. Switch from "Most recent" to "Most downloaded" or "Most endorsed". Either way, Caliente's Beautiful Bodies will be the first thing with, like, 6 million downloads. The latest build (3.3c) features bodyslide 2 as well. The default body you install is non-jiggly, but with bodyslide you can make yourself a TBBP or HDT body; you can even change the shape. Of course, you'll need compatible clothes - there should be a vanilla to CBBE conversion not far away from the top downloaded spot, and modders have the common courtesy to provide the modded armor's slidersets too. Bodyslide lets you adjust everything, including details like calf smoothing and tummy tuck. HDT makes boobs and butt cheeks jiggle, but remember: you need a compatible skeleton (XPMSE 2.14) and the HDT physics system (the latest at best). HDT also allows for belly growth with pregnancy mods. I recommend CBBE if you want correct belly growth (pregnancy mod node scaling), since there isn't a single correctly made pregnancy-scaling body in the UNP body type family, even if UNP (and UNPB) has cooler, less hentai-y clothes and armor mods available. I've tried doing it myself, but there's just something not okay with the body - I just can't get the body to ever respond correctly to my edits, I can't get node scaling to work correctly. Belly jiggling, however, is not yet implemented in any mainstream body. Belly distortion from BIG d1ck penetration is still just an experimental feature, but you can look it up here on LL. Search for SoS belly distortion or SoS hdt belly. SoS = Schlongs of Skyrim 2) Bodyslide for permanent size (you could make femalebody_0 be slim, and femalebody_1 big or even fat), pregnancy mods for dynamic changes (I like Beeing Female, personally) 3) The SexLab framework and Non-SexLab Animation addon feature incredibly fluid animations. SL also includes shitty AP anims, but you can replace those with some other animstions not in either of the aforementioned packs. LL is big and you can certainly find something, if you don't want to bother yourself with hitting 'o' to change the animation if an AP animation is selected, or disabling them in ModConfigurationMenu. HDT female bodies have breast jiggles that react to these animations Regarding collisions, people made experimental plugins that made breasts react to hands, but, again, it is not supported in mainstream modding. 4) Schlongs of Skyrim (LoversLab) replaces the male body with its own very nude body, and then assigns a cock to it, so not all males have the same junk or crown jewells. I am not really sure about the feminine male bodies. No-one likes that. You could check Nexusmods and the Milkdrinker body texture, but I am not sure if SoS and that texture are compatible. 5) Get Unique Everything ( nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/16964/? ) and fill the separate per-race files with everything you need. You could make different bodyslide presets for each race, or even apply bodies from different body families. Altmer females could have UNP topmodel, Orc females could get UNPK with the Athletic texture. Nord women could get CBBE with scarry SG textures, while Imprial females could use the smooth SG normalmap along with non-scarred texture. Possibilities = anything. 6) SexLab features vanilla voice squealing and sighs. Female (excitable) and Female (young) are probably the squaliest (I hope I got that adjective right), other than that you can download SexLab voice replacement packs, but their voice either from porn or it's edited vanilla voiceacting - either way, no voice replacement pack makes voices more like anime rape (that's what AP reminds me of). You could always try to search for something like "SexLab hentai voice" or something, but I can't help you here. I don't like that AP squealing, so I never searched for such a mod.
brandnewmodder7 Posted January 6, 2015 Author Posted January 6, 2015 Thanks. Ive got a few more questions based on your response. 1- Ive got a skeleton called XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended but not a physics system. So if i install a HDT physics itll enable the jiggle? 2- Ive made the body size permanent, i was able to figure that part out, thankfully. 3- Ya lost me here. I have no idea how sex lab even works, as i understand it if i download it just lets me create mods? or does it alter the AP mod? 4- if it aint mainstream i aint gunna mess with it, im amazed ive got things working so far so i dont wanna mess with a good thing. 5- For this mod will it have a menu i acsses in a similar fashion as the body slider? Like, i open the file and it gives me menu for each race? 6- How would one get these voice packs into the mod manager? Like i said, im really new to this. if this woul take a lengthy discussion i have skype and you could guide me through it some time. I hope that didnt come across as creepy.
l33tMan Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Your request ain't creepy, but I only have this day off and still want to make progress with other stuff 1) Last time I checked, 2.14 was the latest XPMS Extended skeleton available. Make sure to configure it in accordance with its install instructions. If you're going to use HDT physics and sex mods, I had made the assumption beforehand that you know you need SKSE and FNIS (Skyrim Script Extender - google, Fores New Idles Skyrim - nexusmods). Latest is always best. The HDT page is .../skyrim/mods/53996. You might also want to check out HighHeels system (36213) and get the "High Heels handler" for it here on LL. The HDT plugin will permit body jiggles, but you won't see anything without an HDT body, AND if you have a BBP or HDT body without a properly configured skeleton, it will cause random Crashes all the way To Desktop. So you need everything together to make it work correctly, or you'll get visual glitches and maybe even crashes. Among the less severe bugs caused by bad config is the torpedo/crushed breast issue. I prefer the HDT body because I use a pregnancy mod and want my girl to visually represent her state, so I can set BeeingFemale to 'immersive' and remove the possibility of pulling out a phase-indicating widget. 2) Even without reading the manual, Bodyslide is dead simple to use. Outfit studio may require a bit of experimenting before you get the hang of it, but its not 3DS Max science. Remember - press "Build" to make your body, use batch build to make everything but if you use push-up effects on some armor MAKE SURE TO UNCHECK OTHER THINGS. I felt like a fool when I added slight pushup and cleavage to the tavern wench outfit and then hastily used batch build. I F-ed up all the other meshes. 3) SexLab is a framework that: -houses all the animations -tracks a few basic sex-related stats -provides functions to call for other mods that are built as SexLab plugins. So I can make a simple conversation mod that would call the consensual sex function and trigger a scene Non-SexLab animation pack adds all the animations that were too late to make it into the last framework update. AP (I assume it's Animated Prostitution - not to be confused with SexLab Apropos) is in no way related to the Sexlab framework (or anything on LL for that matter). If you instal SexLab framework, SL Defeat, Spouses Enhanced, and Apropos, you will understand just how obsolete AP is. Hey, if you feel like a dirty pervert, you can install torture mods (ZaZ animation pack, SD+, everything with the ZaZ tag). This sh!t is better than free dedicated sex games. TL;DR Get the framework, and then get a sex mod that uses it. Boom, voila! And delete AP NEXT QUESTION 4) Schlongs of Skyrim is an okay working mod that you can find here on SexLab, and I think that there's also one plugin on the Nexus. I'm just not sure if it is compatible with different male body textures. If you want feminine men (are you a girl, or a gay? not meant to be offensive), the milkdrinker texture (Nexus) smoothens out all the pronounced muscles and abs. Makes manly bodies look like those of college boys. loveslab.com/topic/26891-how-to-enable-hdt-belly-distorions-with-sos/ covers how to make the belly react to the SoS dick, but it's basically DIY. It's the closest we can get to belly jiggles - many people already asked for tummy jiggling, but its not done yet. There are also nude male bodies on the Nexus, you'd either have an erect or flaccid penis all the frikin time on all the frikin men, though. But if dealing with erectile dysfunction scripts is too much for ya, SoS also offers a lightweight, nonscript version - SoS Lite. 5) There's a similar mod to that one that handles things through the MCM menu, but it produced inferior results at the time and I can't recall its name anyway. This is just a plugin that changes Skyrim's file reading logic, just like the PC exclusive animation path mod. Instead of reading the global all humanoid file, Skyrim is persuaded by the plugin to instead make the memory-abusing effort of loading a bazillion different animation skeletons, base body textures and meshes for each separate race. TL;DR (again) No user-friendly MCM, sorry. You set this up outside of the game, messing in its files. 6) I only use Mod Manager to configure FOMOD-only mods that are too confusing to configure by hand, then I paste it into Skyrim's main directory anyway. Go to Skyrim's Program Files directory (exact place depends on OS and if you roll with Steam or not) and just overwrite SexLab's stuff - or just follow the instructions found on the SexLab voice replacement pack page. Search "SexLab Vanilla voices" and "SexLab Extra voices". SL Extra voices expands the framework's voice registry so you can add extra voices - you can search for AP's files in the mod and copy them into SexLab, but looking up giggly-squealy voice files is up to you. And don't forget: once you're done, run "Generate FNIS for users" in skyrim/data/tools and refresh the SL voice registry in MCM
l33tMan Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I just checked, and it looks like a lot has happened during december. Lastest XPMSE is 2.33
brandnewmodder7 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Posted January 7, 2015 Thanks. I got the HDT havok installed and thats working. I havent installed the FNIS, i still dont get what exactly its for though. But, regardless, the jiggly is working just fine without. I was wondering though if one could make the jiggle more exagerated. In case you havent noticed by my comments i prefer things on the more, ahem, emphasized side of things. As for the sexlab ive found some vids on youtube ill watch for a breakdown. Not that your comments arent helpful, they are, i kust learn better when i see thing done. For the schlongs ill get to that, but i know i have a mod installed that said something about installing an empty file that fix's a conflict with schlongs so i gotta look into that. Ive gotten the hang of the bodyslide, but i did have a question about that. Ive noticed that when you hit build it saves for the light and heavyweight specs that you have selected. Now, and this one is a bit odd, i was wondering is there a mod that, during the course of an interaction, causes the body weight to slide from light to heavy. Example, i have the light weight set to a typical body type, but the heavy set to being very top heavy. Is there a mod that would allow me to go from light to heavy during an interaction? Growth is kinda a thing for me. And as a side note to that, is there a way to reselect the weight without having to open the race menu every time? As for the gay thing, i swing for both teams. So does my wife, funny enough, and we dont agree on body types at all. Leads to some interesting conversations.
l33tMan Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 So, to maintain clarity, I'll keep this broken down into points based on topic. FNIS - Simply put, custom animation mods tend to depend on it. AP is one of those mods that have their own custom animation solutions, but even that mod's author admitted that Fore's patch is better. The most common thing that happens if you don't run GenerateFNISforUser is the animations not playing - if you've got a dancing companion mod, the companion will just stand still instead of playing the animation; participants in a SexLab scene will just stand about 1.5 meters away from each other. Sometimes, adding a new mod, forgetting to update FNIS with its tool, and then activating some animation-including feature of that mod in-game causes severe problems like game freezes and crashes. Augmented jiggle amplitude - The physics system comes with a default settings file called hdtphysicsextenstiondefaultBBP.xml, or something along the lines of this. It handles what effects are applied to weightpainting with certain properties, or, to be more specific, how your correctly weightpainted boobs and butt jiggle and bounce. Some time ago this one mod on the Nexus ended up among the "hot" files. It was a custom preset that changed the boob properties, but it made the jiggles slower and less exagerated.But I'm sure you could find a physics settings preset somewhere that increases the jiggle amplitude. Schlongs - You mentioned a mod that, as I understand, offers a download of a very specific empty file that fixes a conflict with SoS. Note that mods sometimes overlap each other in what they have an effect on, so to sort out issue of who has the priority when an event triggers multiple mods, mod creators create compatibility patches. Normally, the smaller mod offers a compatibility patch to work with the bigger one. Noteworthy examples are Death Alternative, Defeat, and Sanguine's Debauchery. Sometimes they rely on automatically-generated wrye bash patches to integrate themselves into a bigger overhaul mod. So a compatibility patch isn't something too bad to wory about. Increasing body size - Well, you could always write a mod yourself! There's "Mana Tanks" that changes the size of a woman's rack based on how full her magicka (or stamina) bar is. Then there are the pregnancy mods - BeeingFemale has an option to scale weight instead of the belly node, a feature for users, who don't want to go through the hassle of getting weightpainted bodies and armors. None of that does what you want, unfortunately, but there is SexLabUtil1. It allows you to apply various effects to SexLab framework features. It would require you to learn a little about programming, but I reckon you should be able to tie a non-permanent breast, butt, and belly size increase (or just a flat body weight increase) that would gradually revert to the base state over the course of, lets say, 3 hours. If you would undertake such a task, I'd wait for SexLab 1.60 first, as Ashal promised to add extra hooks into sex scenes. With the current framework, you should only be able to apply effects at the beggining or end of a scene, but after the update you could gradually increase the size of your body parts during the sex. A more fluid transition would be more immersive I reckon. As for changing weight outside of Racemenu, I can only do that with console commands. For SexLab, you should check the SexLab index. It groups up what could be regarded as relatively stable and mainstream mods, but be careful - everything here is basically of betatest quality. Mods that are stable on my setup are: Defeat Spouses Enhanced BeeingFemale Of course there are other mods that add even more sex into Skyrim and are also stable, but with these I have first-hand experience and I can testify they never caused a crash (I've had CTDs with Aggressive Prostitution, matchmaker and Stories just adds too much sex for my taste).
brandnewmodder7 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Posted January 7, 2015 Ok, i have the FNIS installed and every thing is working so far. I hit the button on the .exe to generate and it said that 1 warning having to do with the custom skeleton, but when i ran the game nothing seemed to happen. I was reading somewhere though that i would need the 'fix skeleton arm patch' so i guess thatll clear the warning. As for the sexlab, not that ive read a bit more, its a mod that dosent do anything by itself and needs other mods from here, LL, to do anything at all. That being said when i begin to install mods from here, can i have multiple? And how does this all work in accordance with the NMM. I watched that video i mentioned a while back, was no help at all. At this junctre i am, officially ccompletley lost. And last thing, can i still play the actual game after all is said and done? i mean, the extra bits will be fun, but i still wanna go around killing stuff.
brandnewmodder7 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Posted January 7, 2015 Ok, i have the FNIS installed and every thing is working so far. I hit the button on the .exe to generate and it said that 1 warning having to do with the custom skeleton, but when i ran the game nothing seemed to happen. I was reading somewhere though that i would need the 'fix skeleton arm patch' so i guess thatll clear the warning. As for the sexlab, not that ive read a bit more, its a mod that dosent do anything by itself and needs other mods from here, LL, to do anything at all. That being said when i begin to install mods from here, can i have multiple? And how does this all work in accordance with the NMM. I watched that video i mentioned a while back, was no help at all. At this junctre i am, officially ccompletley lost. And last thing, can i still play the actual game after all is said and done? i mean, the extra bits will be fun, but i still wanna go around killing stuff.
l33tMan Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 I usually get this one warning from FNIS, but I ignore it, hit "check consistency", and so far I haven't had any problems yet. For me, the hardest part was finding a body replacer that didn't F up belly scaling. I don't like 7B, UNP's my favorite, visually. Yet I switched to CBBE Bodyslide, because with this body I can at least freely weightpaint stuff without the body falling apart. Multiple SL plugins are possible. It's why SL is a framework and not a normal "drag'n'drop" mod. Now I see that you are not only new to SexLab and custom animations, but to Skyrim modding in general. To start off, Skyrim modders need to be familiar with Skyrim's file reading logic. First, Skyrim.esm is read, then it checks .esp plugins, and, based on their information, unpacks and loads corresponding .bsa and .bsl files. Loose files (the folders in the data folder) are always loaded, but .bsa and .bsl files are only loaded on .esp request. .esm = master .esp = plugin .bsa = bethesda archive .bsl = library As the name suggests, masters are typically the biggest mods out there. If there's a big landmass mod with quests and new NPCs, it's made as a master, a that is to allow other plugins to modify the master. So a plugin modifies a master, but not snother plugin. In the load list plugins and masters are loaded in their order from top to bottom, so what is lower is loaded later; if two plugins modify the same thing, the mod loaded later wins, possibly creating a glitch in the other plugin's operation. From this you should deduce, that plugins must be lower in the load order than their respective master or masters. There's a limitation to a little over 250 plugins - if you open the console in game and click on anything, thay object's ID will be displayed in hexadecimals. The first two digits indicate the load order position of the plugin that placed the object. Skyrim.esm is always 00, so the limit on plugins is 2^16 -1; if you want more, you will need to master plugin merging. Now that you understand that, you can try to comprehend one more time the purpose of the SL framework Simply put, SexLab provides other mods with its services. A mod does its own thing, has you do some tasks, complete some quests, engage in some conversations, whatever the mod author created, then BOOM -> it sends a message to the framework that it needs a sex scene to happen. The framework then plays a random animation (but you can still cycle through them) based on the parameters the SL plugin mod specified. There are different timers for foreplay, consensual sex, and aggressive (forced) sex, different visual modifiers (happy face for good, consensual vaginal coitus; face of pain for analrape), and adds stuff into the framework's diary. I haven't yet seen a mod that would use SexLab's own diary, really. They make their own, like Spouses Enhanced and Apropos. So, long story short, it's perfectly fine and actually recommended to have multiple SexLab plugins. If you want Skyrim to become a big orgy, get Matchmaker or Solutions. There's Stories that integrates sex into quests. I run Defeat (the successor to Submit), but I make sure to have NPC on NPC rape disabled, otherwise the civil war questline turns into an orgy. I also disable knockdown on exhaustion and on stun, and only leave the health threshold, to again keep the game from being overcluttered with after-victory abuse, and also to prevent easy bandit victory. I run Spouses Enhanced for a nice life with my spouse. It's a simple and robust married sex life mod. I also have BeeingFemale installed, but I turn off non-follower NPC menstruation cycles, since they are pointless anyway, as I don't go around town impregnating everything. With this setup, I, as a female player character, am forced to play smart when clearing bandit fortresses and forsworn camps, first drawing away the weak and killing them, then kiting the strong enemies. If I fail to do so AND the female PC is ovulating, I have a pretty big risk of becomming pregant, as I set the probability of conceiving to 75% for the PC and for follower NPCs and I refuse to use contraception in Skyrim on grounds of immersion - the thought of contraception liquid existing in a medieval era-inspired world bugs me terribly. Other than combat sex, I enjoy married life with my beatiful wife Brianna. Yes, that's a lesbian relationship. No, I doesn't bug memthat I live in a gay marriage in Skyrim. My sense of immersion is selective and flexible to a degree. I'm still waiting for more progress on the "Kill with sex - Black Widow" project. One good person created an easy to use concept version, but it's a tad immersion breaking, since I would prefer a conversation option instead of a spell, but I don't really have the time to sit down and write a mod now. If you or your wife enjoyed reading erotic literature, I'd recommend Apropos. Apropos has a toggle-able wear and tear system that applies debuffs if you had too much sex etc. ...Buffs you for being a well behaved girl and never having given head... Most importantly for horny people, however, and maybe to avoid looking like a creation of some prude, judgemental killjoy, it contains a comment system, which might be improved when Apropos is updated to take advantage of the updated framework's new possibilities. Right now it comments on sexual scenes at the beginning and the end, but with SL 1.60, the Apropos author could add comments into the sex scene. This comment system writes out stuff like "(You) gasp as (your lover) (cock) streches your (pussy) for the first time" and "(You) moan in ecstasy as (your lover)'s fills your (pussy) with (semen)" The things in parantheses is chosen at random from a pool of synonyms, as well as the sentences themselves, and you can configure Apropos through MCM to either comment yourself ( I ), to have a judgemental diety of Nirn comment into the depths of your mind ( You), or have the comments appear as extracts from an erotic novel ( He, She, Name ). You could also get Arousal Redux to have arousal (wetness/erection) buffs and debuffs, but that will be partially integrated into SexLab 1.60 in the near future.
brandnewmodder7 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Posted January 7, 2015 Makes sense. Ive installed the Sexlab and have it functioning properly. I used the arm patch thing and it removed the warning in FNIS. Im attempting to install Scholngs but ive hit a bit of a snag. Ive downloaded and unpacked the stuff with winrar and saved it to my desktop. After that i open NMM and hit the add file button and go to where ive saved it on the desktop and thats where i get lost. Instead of just adding the contents it opens the folder and gives me a whole list of things that looks like this, http://ist2-2.filesor.com/pimpandhost.com/1/_/_/_/1/2/1/b/t/21btS/sos-full-manual-install.jpg, cept sans the red letters, thats from the schlongs post where they explain how to install it with NMM since its not on the site and how to manually install, that screen shot being the instructions on how to manually instal. Thing is when i try to add file with NMM it takes me to that screen anyway. Should i just follow those instructiones and do a manual install? Ive tried to select all but i can only click one at a time. Outside of that, im guessing that AP dosent work with Sexlab. Ihavent uninstalled it and tried after installing Sexlab and tweaking the voice setting to that excitable thing you told me about and it made no change. And to follow that one, is there a mod here that kinda works like ap. That is to say, a mod that basically lets me mess around with any NPC freely. Ive already seen one mod i have my eye on called slut shout, basically draws in everyone hit into an orgy. Dont judge me -.-. Sorry to keep bugging you btw, i imagine this is probably getting a little annoying.
UmbraEternus Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 Welcome to the world of modding Skyrim! You may want to take a look at Gopher's Beginner's Guide to Modding Skyrim playlist before you start worrying about SexLab and such. Gopher is a good starting point and then you can build from there. In my opinion SexLab is a little higher on the difficualty scale and more complex to use than other mods. Once you get the basic ideas down you will be downloading SexLab mods like a pro in no time. You don't need to unzip files to add them to NMM. In fact you don't unzip them at all. NMM does the unzipping and places them in the right place for you. It's recomended that you use NMM or another mod manger to install mods so you can add and remove them with ease. When I first started modding I added everying manual too and then I realized I hadn't removed a mod completly, thus forever switching over to NMM.SexLab Index has a list of most/all mods that use SexLab. There are several mods you might be intereseted in.
l33tMan Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 Nah, here on the internet, we internet peoplez are one big family. We help gladly each other. Regarding FNIS: skeleton arm fix fixes 3rd person shield animations, because installing XPMS without FNIS screws that up for some reason. If you use xp32's bow running animation, I've found that it's better not to tick the corresponding option in FNIS, because then it breaks the animation and the character isn't playing any aimation whist moving. Remedy = reinstal bow running animation + uncheck the bow animation patch in FNIS. Regarding mod managers: Nononononono, no! No! Do not try to install unpacked files with NMM. Or any mod manager for that matter. It doesn't work that way. When opening stuff in NMM, you select the un-unpacked .rar/.7z archive. That will automatically install the mod. Or, if it's a frikin complex mod with many optional features and compatibility, it will open up a configuration menu. You can identify these mods by looking for a fomod file in the archive. It has a fomod file = there will be a menu As for the excitable and stimulated voices, it's only the closest you can get to AP giggly-squeaky rubber doll sounds, but it's less giggly. Certainly no laughing. And the technical side of things: if you initiated an AP scene, naturally, it does not change anything. You must have forgotten the part where I wrote that the SL framework and its plugins and AP are independent. For plugins: one more time SEXLAB INDEX, I SUMMON THEE!!! www.loverslab.com/topic/19588-sexlab-index For random PC/NPC banging - SL Romance files/file/158-sexlab-romance-including-source-updated-19th-aug-2014 For random NPC/NPC banging - Mass Matchmaker /749-sexlab-mass-matchmaker For making money AP style - Agressive Prostitution or Radiant Prostitution 403-sexlab-tdf-prostitution-and-pimping-the-former-aggressive-prostitution-v2252 or 529-radiantprostitution-tweaked For prostituting turned against you - Skooma Whore /1378-sexlab-skooma-whore For seducing people - Amorous Adventures /984-sexlab-amorous-adventures-v1302-20141220
l33tMan Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 Nah, here on the internet, we internet peoplez are one big family. We help gladly each other. Regarding FNIS: skeleton arm fix fixes 3rd person shield animations, because installing XPMS without FNIS screws that up for some reason. If you use xp32's bow running animation, I've found that it's better not to tick the corresponding option in FNIS, because then it breaks the animation and the character isn't playing any aimation whist moving. Remedy = reinstal bow running animation + uncheck the bow animation patch in FNIS. Regarding mod managers: Nononononono, no! No! Do not try to install unpacked files with NMM. Or any mod manager for that matter. It doesn't work that way. When opening stuff in NMM, you select the un-unpacked .rar/.7z archive. That will automatically install the mod. Or, if it's a frikin complex mod with many optional features and compatibility, it will open up a configuration menu. You can identify these mods by looking for a fomod file in the archive. It has a fomod file = there will be a menu As for the excitable and stimulated voices, it's only the closest you can get to AP giggly-squeaky rubber doll sounds, but it's less giggly. Certainly no laughing. And the technical side of things: if you initiated an AP scene, naturally, it does not change anything. You must have forgotten the part where I wrote that the SL framework and its plugins and AP are independent. For plugins: one more time SEXLAB INDEX, I SUMMON THEE!!! www.loverslab.com/topic/19588-sexlab-index For random PC/NPC banging - SL Romance files/file/158-sexlab-romance-including-source-updated-19th-aug-2014 For random NPC/NPC banging - Mass Matchmaker /749-sexlab-mass-matchmaker For making money AP style - Agressive Prostitution or Radiant Prostitution 403-sexlab-tdf-prostitution-and-pimping-the-former-aggressive-prostitution-v2252 or 529-radiantprostitution-tweaked For prostituting turned against you - Skooma Whore /1378-sexlab-skooma-whore For seducing people - Amorous Adventures /984-sexlab-amorous-adventures-v1302-20141220
brandnewmodder7 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Posted January 7, 2015 Welp, i got the schlong installed. All i had to do was darg and drop from the recently downloaded list to the desktop and add folder in NMM. I...am...so...smart-.- On that note though i have the always flacid glitch. Or im jsut doing something wrong. Either way, if it is the bug they have a FAQ on the SoS page so ill just look there. And for the gopher vid i watched it. Before installing all of this i got the SKSE by following his vid and installed a few easy mods on my own. Naruto stuff. Dumb as it is, i know, the rasengan is soooooo damn useful. And thanks for the index thing, i was having a hard time navigating the threads to find what i wanted, although i imagine not everything is there so i may have to schlep around some. Also, i had a random glitch. I went to test everything out so i went to a nearby guard, cause why not, the animation played with all his armor on, then after it finished i was teleported into the sky where i then proceded to fall to my death. Tried it a few more times and it didnt happen, so, just funny in the end.
l33tMan Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 You should be set to go. The non-lite version of SoS handles the male instrument with arousal scripts, so it will erect itself spontaneously when Arousal determines you've got a high arousal level. Also, after orgasm (the end of a SexLab scene, in the MCM SexLab menu you can also enable female-female cum and orgasm effects - a camera shake and a slight noise), there's a set timer before you can have another errection. Like 15 minutes or so. The time decreases with your proficiency (time you've spent boinking), perhaps it could even be disabled in MCM (I haven't used the full version, so I don't know). If it's a bug, consult the main SoS page and the install Readmes. Being launched into the air is a random bug I've read that occurs. It never happened to me, but from what I know, it should be pretty random; no one knows why it happens, what causes it. Therefore, there is no known general remedy that is guaranteed to help everyone. Just reload a save and it shouldn't happen a second time. Be careful, however, when removing mods or installing mod updates that make radical changes. You'll either need to learn how to use a save cleaner, or load a save not including any mod scripts. If the games loads scripts of an uninstalled mod, all kinds of things can happen and ruin your day. If you have some items in a cell (room in the gameworld) that no longer exists, because you've uninstalled the mod, the stuff is lost - similarly to resetting cells. SexLab alters the console, so clicking on stuff through the console displays additional info in addition to the object's ID. This allows you to check storage if it respawns or not. Good luck with your brand new and personalized The Wench Diaries V: Rimjob! P.S. If you've got a fetish for women and animals: SexLab Beastess and More Nasty Critters -> You'll get power for mating with animals and animals with get phalluses. Call of the Wild Primal Magic is halted indefintely, which is a shame.
brandnewmodder7 Posted January 8, 2015 Author Posted January 8, 2015 The only mod ive really uninstalled is the ap and it came out clean, no pun intended. And i might put the animals in but i have decided yet. Ive already got the shout working and am having a ton of fun with it, especially afer i learned how to use the console to summon npcs. soooooooo much boobs. When the ap came out and i loaded the game it gave me a notice saying that a mod was gone and so where some of my items, but that was basically it, nothing else has happened in game because of that. And what is wild primal magic and why is it a shame that its halted? And a question about the body names. What does UNP, HDT, BBP, and all those actually mean? cause i saw the equippable schlong thing and that looked like something i want, but it says you need a UNP body and im using an HDT so what all does that mean?
l33tMan Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 The notice about a missing mod is a classic. It's just something displayed when a plugin is no longer there, although the save file has a note of it. The next save after that won't put up that notice anymore. Summoning non-player characters through the console is dangerous bussiness. Some NPCs are tied to certain quests and scripts, and can behave in weird ways because of that. When I first downloaded BeeingFemale, I used debugging mode to set myself into the ovulation stage. I summoned a bunch of high-level Stormcloak warriors (you know, superior Nord blood'n'stuff), pulled out Flames, got them to attack me and knock me down on the ground (health management by running around and heal spells), and then gangbang my PC (you gotta love SL Defeat with morality set to 'none'). My game crashed after leaving the cell (went out of the dungeon - interior cell - into the open world). The CTD was repeatable, but it did not occur when I summoned a different bunch of Stormcloaks. Turns out I summoned the lot that was supposed to attack Solitude at the end of the Stormcloak branch of the civil war. They had weird dialogue for random NPCs, I must admit, but I didn't pay attention to it. Call of the Wild - Primal magic was shaping up to be a mod that added a fourth resource next to health, stamina, and magicka. The new spells would draw energy from that new resource, but it would have very low regeneration, or even resource loss over time. The concept was that casting the new spells would fill you with primal excitement, and when the resource bar would get filled up, casting those spells wouldn't be possible. An inverted magicka bar, in essence. When close to being filled, the bar would fill up on its own eventually. If deemed appropriate by the creators, a debuff would be applied for having that resource bar filled, along with disabled primal magic. The bar would be emptied by mating with animals, which would also make the animal your guardian companion for a time. The modders have a lot to do now, so they halted the project indefinitely. Beastess is already out and it does a similar job to Call of the Wild, but it's a lot more primitive. It just gives you timed and/or permanent buffs based on which and how many animals you've bred with. About the acronyms. Some of them probably don't have a meaning. The MMOxReview guy that does "Skyrim mods weekly" (over 150 episodes and still going strong) bid the viewers to submit their explanations of the body type acronyms, some were really funny. You could try to look up UNP's history through google, but I doubt anyone knows what it's about. "U" maybe stands for "Unified"? I don't know. SevenBase? Maybe something to do with the big jugs. CBBE stands for Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Edition, or Big Bottoms Editiom. Caliente is the author. UNPB is the also called the UNPBlessed project. It is aimed at keeping the aging UNP body up to date with new features. Also has blessed jug size at weight 100. UNP got the most great quality non-japanesehentai clothes and armor mods, but the body doesn't cooperate well with the newest stuff, namely bone scaling (pregnancy belly). Caliente also made Bodyslide2 and Outfit Studio, so UNP and UNPB armors as be converted painlessly and without 3DS Max or Blender mastery, so CBBE my be the future of Skyrim modding. Also, there's project C.I.T.R.U.S. - that acronym was forcibly made up, but it's basically an experimental CBBE body jury-rigged with wonderland features like an HDT pussy (will open and close when penetrated by SoS dicks). Some internet friend of the original project founder made that fruit-inspired acronym up. p The important stuff is understanding HDT, BBP, and TBBP Skyrim's physics engine bears the name Havoc. Havoc physics extension = HDT physics extension. BBP - breast bounce physics - a system separate from the HDT project, an older predecessor, if I am not mistaken. HDT was still pissing glitches in its diapers when that already worked TBBP - tender breast and butt physics - BBP expanded on the butt You can have both UNP and HDT. It's called UNP HDT-PE. It just means you've got UNP with a jiggly butt and boobs. But... equippable schlong and the UNP body? Like, you're trying to equip a schlong on a female body? I think that's called futa or futanari... and I never even dared to try that. Same with men-on-men action. I can enjoy rape in Skyrim, but already ZaZ torture gets me uncomfortable, and this is really off limits to my brain. I have no know-how about equipping dicks on women. You'll need to consult the schlong page.
brandnewmodder7 Posted January 9, 2015 Author Posted January 9, 2015 ALright i kinda get it. So CBBE, UNPB, and UNP are like the main body category and things like HDT are subcategories? Also i saw a body type i want to use here http://www.loverslab.com/topic/22531-new-bbw-body/and a video of it it action http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x16tc1s_skyrim-fat-belly-jiggle-betta-test_videogames Im guesssing to use this i just download the .zip he has there and replace the female body 0 and 1 and it will set my char to that body shape? Also i have the commpatible skeleton and the bodyslide that he links to. I know that i downloaded a preset, which i no longer use since i figured out how to work the sliders, and a mod that adapts certain vanilla armors to the body you create in body slide. So, if i download that zip and slap it into NMM, like i did with the aforementioned mods, it will add something in the drop down menu on body slide called outfit/body that would use that body and i would just hit build to apply it? cause thats how the other two mods did it. Well, the clothing ones went there and the Stupidly lare tits, as it was called, was loaded in the preset dropdown. And im asuming that, using that zip, the jiggle would already be there? And on the unp bpdy type it would work the same way? that is to say, i would download the UNP body and it would add it tp the CBBE bodyslide.exe in the outfit/body and from there i load the HDT body type, which would give me the UNP HDT-PE that you were talking about? Im hoping im getting all this, otherwise my modding future dosent seem so bright. And why does it say it added a bellt bone and butt bone for that body? i know that a mesh basically control how the skin acts(i think) so what purpose does the bone serve. As for the futa thing, yeah thats pretty much what im going for. But the equipable schlongs only works with a UNP body type, i assume that means if i use a CBBE body/outfit in body slide it wont work with it or be glitchy as all hell. Also, why would you shy away from the men on men or futa? It seems normal to be but thats jus cause of my orentation. Not trying to force my ideals on ya, i just like knowing how and why people tick a certain way. But if that question would lead into some sort of philosophical debate we can continue that in private messages, dont want to muck up the forum with such talk, i think that would rub the modderaters te wrong way. And i think its outright discouraged in the forum rules. And finally, that primal magic sounds like it wouldve been interesting. As much as i like mods that are just for the sake of, well, rustling mah jimmes, i like the idea of sexualized mods that actually impact the gameplay in some positive or negative way. Also, im looking for a mod that actually makes food, drink, and sleep meaingful in the game. Like, i know that sleep gives you a bonues and food restores health and such, but im looking for a mod that makes them actually nessecary. Ive seen a few, but, do you have any recomindations?
ousnius Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 I'm so sorry for doing this, but I just have to after scrolling through this thread.
brandnewmodder7 Posted January 9, 2015 Author Posted January 9, 2015 Oh my god, that poor man. He went full bernie, youre not supposed to go full bernie. He will never walk right again, lets have a moment of silence for this lost spine....
l33tMan Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 Had to be productive as of the last few days, so I'm sorry for not replying for a while. So, ah, where to start... Bodytype families. A slight correction here. It is an interesting thing that in any community a system of standardisarion is formed sooner or later. All custom (non-vanilla) bodies were created from some base body that was accepted democratically by the community via most downloads and best reviews. These base bodies are, for example, SevenBase, Classic CBBE Curvy and UNP. From these many variations were made, like DibellaSeven, CBBE Slim, UNP Skinny, UNP Topmodel, UNPB. From the names you should be able to get which bodies form family with which base body. Generally, bodies from one bodytype family can either directly share clothing and armor replacers, or it is very easy to adapt the armor between the various bodies within the family. Bodytyp families share many technicalities. Often they can share the same textures. There's this little detail called the Skyrim offset convenion. When loaded into a 3D program, the vanilla body mesh centre is set off a bit on the Y and Z axes (height and depth). Some bodies follow this convention while others do not. This creates problems when using automated weightpaint copying - as an example. If you're not sure if the body you're using has jiggling features, open Bodyslide, jump into Outfit Studio, and look for bones called Belly, L Breast, R Breast, L Butt, R Butt; some even have L Breast01, R Breast01, L Butt01, R Butt01. If these bones exist in the mesh and are painted, then the body will cooperate with HDT. In case you desire to apply weightpaint to a body using Bodyslide, just select "CBBE with HDT" and then load the preset you want. UNP is a different body and body family baseline. While you can load UNP stuff into Outfit Studio (because clothes converting without 3DS Max), it doesn't really work that way in Bodyslide. I painstakingly reforges my clothes and armor collection from UNP to CBBE - gigabytes of downloading, so much tuning in Outfit Studio and Max, if the armor's interbody compatibility issue was worse - simply because I'm a pregnancy mod user and PregBelly doesn't work too good with the UNP bodytype family. I don't know what equippable dick problem on women you have, but I'm guessing the problem could be clipping, meaning that the penis model is placed in a certain place in relation to the body mesh's 0-0-0 point, and it wouldn't "sit" well on the body, maybe being a bit inside the body, or floating in front of it. You could use a UNP bodytype family body, since they have great jiggles, except for the pregnancy issue, but you'd have to sacrifice fat women at weight 100 - there is no bodyslide for UNP (at this time). There's the Unified UNP project that is basically a CBBE Bodyslide preset that has UNP proportions. A quick characterisation of the various bodies dimon99 dimonized UNP - the baseline UNP body, it is somewhat realistic and partially a fantasy bodytype. It has really firm looking boobs that go from orange size to melons, but it doesn't have the "wasp waist" adored by the fantasy genre. The baseline body is, naturally, the most widespread UNP body. UNPB - UNP has not been updated that often, so this project supposedly started as an attempt at keeping the UNP body competitive on the "bodytype market". Visually, UNPBlessed has remodelled weight 100 boobs. UNP HDT-PE - The UNP body painted with weights for the HDT system (minus the belly node... damnit). Breasts and butt jiggle, but the breasts got ever so slightly more saggy when not moving, but that's just the HDT pulling them down. They go firm when HDT is turned off in Racemenu (pre Racemenu v3 ) UNP skinny - The anorexic girl of the UNP family. Completely flat-chested and the butt is literally just a crack on the body. The thighs are so slim and the belly is so small... If it was a real girl, I wouldn't get her pregnant, as I would be too afraid I would kill the girl. If you'd decrease the graphic quality and decrease body height through expired's Racemenu, you might confuse your adult PC for a tween. UNP Topmodel - The body borrowed the legs from somewhere around weight 50 UNP skinny, apparently, then slapped size holyshit boobs to the chest. Think about a overly slim model with a pushup bra, and now the apparent breast size created by the pushup bra illusion is the actual breast size of the body. SevenBase - A more muscular body with big weight 100 boobs. But like... BIG DibellaSeven - Take 7B's features and do (x^2). That's D7B Classic CBBE Curvy - The original CBBE body. Has a hinting "wasp waist". Classic CBBE Slim - The original CBBE body with slimmer thighs, a smaller butt, and slightly smaller weight 100 boobies. CBBE Curvy and CBBE Slim - The continued evolution of their respective parent bodies, many bodily features were slightly adjusted. The most apparent difference is the decreased shoulder width All these baseline CBBE bodies are now CBBE Bodyslide 2 presets. Regarding the question of enjoyment of Man-on-Man and Futanari... Everyone is entitled to have their opinion and, by extension into the realm of sex, everyone is entitled to have their fetish. I think, however, that outside of gender preference, all other things are a direct or indirect result of one's upbringing. I am a white hetero male that has been brought up in a slightly upper middleclass family, somewhat more snobbish than classic middleclass, but in no way rich to the point of being detached from reality. From a sexual point of view, this resulted in a completely stereotypical white male: I am turned on by straight action, interracial action where the submissive woman is white, white and latina lesbians... but I am turned off by torture and disgusted at the sight of a penis penetrating any ass - regardless of ass gender or color. And I've got no explanation for it. I try to rationalise it with sexual hygiene and my adoration for it, but it simply feels wrong. I don't even enjoy SexLab anal animations. I use Defeat rape as a detergent from being too reckless in my play. I am most turned on by my Skyrim spouse approaching me when I come home and then taking me apart with her endless lust. As a side note, I also believe that in actual life me and my potential life partner should have as few different intimate relationships in our "sex diaries" as possible before marriage. I will always support every gay pair's right to be married and the right of free speech of extreme right-wing feminists, even if I endorse neither of these causes, even if I am offended by the overdone pride parades and the gender quotas, and in the same way I will endorse eveybody's right to make and watch alien tentacle pr0n, or gay pr0n... but for the love of the 8+1 divines, keep that stuff away from my ass. For realistic eating, drinking, sleeping, look up Realistic Needs and Diseases. There's also a mod that let's you sit or sleep anywhere nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/58296
brandnewmodder7 Posted January 13, 2015 Author Posted January 13, 2015 Thanks, that clears up the body types a bit. so, wnything that is part of the UNP body wont function in body slide? I think thats what ya meant. With that said, the body i showed you, how would i install it? Just get the file and add it NMM or just extract the files and replace the female body in the characters folder? And if i did the later im assuming that if i used body slide after that point it would simply replace that file with whatever body i have when i hit build. Also, i cant use outfit studio at all. When i use 'load a previoulsy created slider' for editing i get an error messagee saying that 'failed to open C:prgram files(x86)/steam/steamapps/ blah blah blah/ Custom Preset.XML as a slider set file. And when i use the new project button and try to use the custom preset, it loads and says ready at the bottom, but nothing apperars on screen at all. And what exactly is weight painting? Something to do with the outfit studio im guessing. As for the futa thing, i got it working. Turns out the one i was looking for was compatible with a CBBE body. The size was tiny but all i had to do was get some mods the expand the SOS and rave menu, and the custom race i have works with it already. The size scaling works well, even when pushed to ridiculous proportions, but the testicles are a little odd. When pushed into a higher number the get warped pretty severly, but i dont intend on making them that big, so the problem is negliable.
l33tMan Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 Well, CBBE works because the body creator (armor creator, if armor is loaded) has some set of sliders set up for it. Some armors just have basic thigh, ankle, breast size, and belly size sliders, while the body itself has a slider for various different breast features, shoulder width, tummy tuck etc. UNP does not have these. There's Unified UNP, which is a CBBE preset that matches UNP proportions, but it's breast shape and other details such a belly and waist shape&texture are a bit different. That file you've got on page 1, the huge belly bbw body, is a file containing meshes. So just copy the contents into meshes/.../character assets. If you use bodyslide after installing a non-CBBE not-Bodyslide-friendly body, it will overwrite the mesh with customized CBBE meshes. When you use Bodyslide after installing UNP, th texture won't fit and the texture nipples will not be over the mesh nipples. Ooookey, outfit studio. Try this: when loading a reference, either load one of the default bodyslide presets, or, if you want to use your custom-tuned body, use Bodyslide to build it, then use "Browse" in the OutfitStudio Load Reference menu, and look for the femalebody_0 (and later _1) .nif file. NIFs are the meshes, so you'll be looking in Skyrim/Data/Meshes/Actor/...character?.../Character Assets. This will load the body and automatically the texture. Then select the thing you indend to edit using Oufit Studio (just below Load Reference). Weightpaint is a big deal if you want jiggles or even pregnancy scaling. When you load a weightpainted body in Outfit Studio, check the "Bones" tab and select a random bone. I'll use the breast bones as a reference now: you'll see a colored mask cover the boob, blue on the edges and progressing to red through yellow towards the nipple. Blue is less, red is more. The weightpaint determines the jiggle amplitudes of each point on the mesh. As with the breasts, whose .xml config states that they jiggle and assigns them a certain in-game weight and riggidness parameter, the blue parts won't fly as high up and down when running as the tips of the boobs and the nipples. Of course, calves, thighs, elbows and the belly node don't jiggle, but they still need their painting for other reasons. Warping with oversized body parts isn't that bad. You ever had a mesh explode? If you ever edit _0 and _1 (weight 0 and weight 1) files of some armor or body, and end up having different total numbers of vertices, different this and different that, the body will be ok in-game when at maximum or minimum weight, but will turn into a mess of random shapes anywhere between 0 and 100.
brandnewmodder7 Posted January 14, 2015 Author Posted January 14, 2015 Alright, i got the outfit studio working on the body i selected. soooo, if i use the paint tool it will change how the selected bones move. That is to say, on the left breast the more certain parts are in the yellows and reds the more they will move/jiggle in response to movment. ALso, why is it when i use the paint tool on one breast the other one is affected as well, but when i select that individual bone, there is no change. Example, i was messing around with it to see if i could glen some info and used the weightpaint tool on the left breast. As i increased the weight paint on the left breast it changed on the right breast as well, but when i selected the bone for the right breast it showed it as the deafault with no change to the left breast. Also, im assuming if i 'save as' with the boxes on their default, then the game will use that body with the new weight paint upon loading the game? And if so, how then do i get the armor to work with the new body? since it would be saved in the female body 0 and 1 im assuming i can use batch build to apply it to the caliente vanilla armors?
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