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This exact bug got me to reinstall my game thinking one of my mods was messed up bad I did try to find the issue before hand but aapon a load of any save new or old it cropped up again. So what i'm seeing is upon load the ai is frozen solid i cant move they cant move nothing however i can open menus and apparently hitting the sneak button fixes it this time but last install it seem to trigger a daymol death load screen then nothing but black and it only started last time after i entered dragonsreach. Numerous google searches gave me nothing but tpose info but thats not whats going on so asking for help before this explodes again into something i cant seem to fix.


Current LO

Active Mod Files:

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.8a]
03  Dawnguard.esm
04  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.8]
05  HearthFires.esm
06  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.8]
07  Dragonborn.esm
08  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.8]
09  SGHairPackBase.esm
0A  AzarHair.esm
0B  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
0C  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.59c]
0D  BeeingFemale.esm  [Version 1.14]
0E  Devious Devices - Assets.esm  [Version 2.8.3]
0F  ApachiiHair.esm
10  SexLabAroused.esm
11  hdtHighHeel.esm
12  HepsyHair.esm
13  RSkyrimChildren.esm
14  SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp
15  ZaZAnimationPack.esm
16  daymoyl.esm
17  Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
18  Devious Devices - Integration.esm
19  Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
1A  DD_restrained.esp
1B  SexLabWerewolves.esp
1C  BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp
1D  AlwaysPickUpBooks.esp
1E  SlaveTats.esp
1F  Nuska Warpaint.esp
20  Better Dynamic Snow.esp
21  Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp
++  Proper Aiming.esp
22  Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
23  AMatterOfTime.esp  [Version 2.00]
24  AnonymousPeople.esp
25  Aradia Devious Expansion.esp
26  Dawnguard - Join As A Vampire.esp
27  AdvancedKillMoves.esp
28  AK_RM_Tattoos.esp
29  RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - UNP.esp
2A  SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp
2B  chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp
2C  Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
2D  Apropos.esp
2E  DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp
2F  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
30  YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp
31  DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp
32  NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
33  Devious Devices - Males Addon.esp
34  DeviousDevice - More Devious Quest.esp
35  EnchantedArsenal.esp  [Version 1.0]
36  Unique Grasses.esp
37  DSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.esp
38  DialogueTweaks.esp
39  RaceMenuNails.esp
3A  HelmetToggle2.02b.esp
3B  BFAP v1.2.esp
3C  LeftHandRings.esp  [Version 1.4]
3D  LovelyHairstylesLITE.esp
3E  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
3F  ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
40  3DNPC.esp  [Version 3.06.9]
++  AFT_iNPCFix.esp
41  SexLabWorkingGirl.esp
42  EstrusChaurus.esp
43  Facelight.esp
44  Fhaarkas Font Mod - SkyUI.esp
45  ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
46  SexLab-AmorousAdventures-ArousalTriggers.esp
47  FNISSexyMove.esp
48  Footprints.esp
49  Footprints - Ash.esp
4A  SkyUI.esp
4B  Dual Sheath Redux.esp
4C  AchieveThat.esp
4D  NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp
4E  FemaleMannequinsBreton.esp
4F  ProperWeaponScale.esp
50  Traps Are Dangerous.esp
51  iHUD.esp
52  Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
53  Epic Races of Skyrim.esp
54  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
55  ImmersiveFP.esp
56  ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
57  KJ Tattoos 4K.esp
58  Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
59  KS Hairdo's.esp
5A  SexLab_Dialogues.esp
5B  Majestic Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
5C  mintylightningmod.esp
5D  MoreNastyCritters.esp
5E  Moss Rocks.esp
5F  SLA Monitor Widget.esp
60  mslVLKerriganWings.esp
61  NUHairstyles.esp
62  Patch - Interesting NPCs - RS kids.esp
63  Bard Songs Overhall v2.esp
64  TheEyesOfBeauty.esp  [Version 9]
65  TSLCF1.esp
66  RaceMenu.esp
67  LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp  [Version 1.4]
68  RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp
69  SexLab Brawling Rape.esp
6A  SexLab Cumshot.esp  [Version 1.6]
6B  SexLab Extra Voices.esp
6C  SexLab Warmbodies.esp
6D  SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
6E  SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
6F  SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
70  SexLab_Paycrime.esp
71  SGEyebrows.esp
72  sr_ifpssl.esp
73  SGHairPackAIO.esp
74  SkinTight.esp
75  SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp  [Version 1.2.]
76  SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
77  SOS Equipable Schlong.esp
78  SOTAntiCTD.esp
79  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.5.2]
7A  ELFXEnhancer.esp
7B  BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp
7C  Pureweather.esp
7D  ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp
7E  Helgen Reborn.esp  [Version 105.3]
7F  SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
80  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
81  CPR.esp
82  Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
83  SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
84  zdd.esp
85  HorrifiedFemalePrisons.esp
86  ESFCompanions.esp  [Version 0.3.7]
87  dD-Dawnguard-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
88  OBIS.esp
89  OBIS Redone.esp
8A  OBISDB.esp
8B  Civil War Overhaul.esp
8C  HDT Havok Object.esp
8D  Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp
8E  BetterQuestObjectives.esp
8F  BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp
90  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
91  FollowerWander2.esp
92  FollowerWander2Serana.esp
93  SSv2.esp
94  Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
95  BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp
96  Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
97  BetterQuestObjectives-BetterStealthAIPatch.esp
98  BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp
99  BetterQuestObjectives-ThievesGuildRequirementsPatch.esp
9A  Captured Dreams.esp
9B  RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
9C  WATER.esp
9D  Bathing in Skyrim - Water for WATER (Vanilla).esp
9E  Disease Descriptions_RND Compatibile.esp
9F  RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
A0  RND_USKP-Patch.esp
A1  RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp
A2  Babette.esp
A3  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6.5.2]
A4  WATER DB Waves.esp
A5  RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
A6  HentaiCreatures.esp
A7  Inconsequential NPCs.esp
A8  Patch - Inconsequential NPCs - RS kids.esp
A9  Bathing in Skyrim - Water for WATER (Dragonborn + Waves).esp
AA  The Coenaculi.esp
AC  TSLCFbeta.esp
AD  TSLCFgamma.esp
AE  Victoria Velina Revamped.esp
AF  Better Vampires.esp
B0  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
B1  YOT - Better Vampires.esp
B2  Cloaks.esp
B3  1nivWICCloaks.esp  [Version 2.3]
B4  SexLab-Stories.esp
B5  AliciaPainSlut.esp
B6  1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp  [Version 2.3]
B7  DD FtM - Cloaks WIC patch.esp
B8  Immersive Patrols II.esp
B9  DeviouslyHelpless.esp
BA  SMIM-Merged-All.esp
BB  DeviousRegulations.esp
BC  SkyrimImmersionPatch.esp
BD  ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp
BE  WetandCold.esp
BF  WetandCold - Ashes.esp
C0  zMirai.esp
C1  thereserve_v2.esp
C2  Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp
C3  RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp
C4  Chesko_Frostfall.esp
C5  PerMa_Survivalism.esp
C6  RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
C7  Bandit Patrols.esp
C8  CompanionArissa.esp
C9  Jewlery Merged 01.esp
CA  MiasLair.esp  [Version 33]
CB  AngrimApprentice.esp
CC  BooksOfSkyrim.esp
CD  daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
CE  Epic Races - No Voices Change.esp
CF  LHRV-1.9-USKP-UDGP Patch.esp
D0  PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
D1  PerMa Weaponry Fillout.esp
D2  PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
D3  Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp
D4  PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
D5  PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
D6  AstralMerchantAndChest.esp
++  Perma Gold.esp
D7  PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
D8  SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp
D9  SexLabDangerousNights.esp
DA  SpousesEnhanced.esp
DB  AmuletOfHomecoming.esp
DD  Bathing in Skyrim - Water for WATER (Dawnguard).esp
DE  WATER Plants.esp
DF  BetterBooksOfSkyrim.esp
E0  Devious Deviants.esp
E1  SexLabDefeat.esp
E2  The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp  [Version 1.2.8]
E3  BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
E4  Devious Cidhna.esp
E5  Hunterborn.esp
E6  Witch Of The Wild.esp
++  Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp
E7  Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp
E8  Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
E9  YOT - Hunterborn.esp
EA  mslDeviousCaptures.esp
EB  LoversComfort.esp
EC  SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
ED  BlockSparkles.esp
EE  zzEstrus.esp
EF  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 2.5.2]
F0  Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp
F1  SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
F2  RealShelter.esp
F3  RSPatch.esp
F4  BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
F5  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
F6  PatchusMaximus.esp
F7  Breezehome hearthfire redux.esp

 There is 4 mods not listed atm 3 merged armor/clothing/jewelry mods i made but rerunning patchus atm and it hates em and dual sheathe patch that requires at least one of those so its disabled for this.
And ill post all 4 of my pap logs some will be pretty big ive been playing for a few hrs but dropped out to do a mod swap im am also looking though em 0 was a quick load to shut down a mod for removal so prob be the best one to look at.



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Sounds like an old issue to me.

  • Open the console in the main menu and enter CoC QASmoke.
  • When loaded, enable GodMode (TGM).
  • Load your errornous save.
  • Go into 3rd person and click on your toon.
  • Open the console and enter SetEssential 0.
  • Heal your toon.
  • Save your game.
  • Completly quit it and reload the game.

Hope that this fixed it.


it's just a guess, but to me it sounds like a mod messed up the essential state, so your toon dies on game load.

That your game doesn't tell you so, might be due to even more errors and the resulting overload. Cleaning your SaveGame is highly recommended.

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I am just about to rework my merged mods a bit i think my error may be coming from them besides i just looked a bit ago at a forge and only my hdt merged armors (had to out them in there own file purkus hates hdt atm) and some of my jewelery worked but not all i may have merged to many or some may have errors. and im gonna try and do some trimming altho knowing me ill still be in the 240-250 active mods again real quick.


Im copying that fix to a post it just incase i get these death events again right now going into sneak then back out gets the ai working so ty. The save that was dieing on load is long gone along with that full install however it didn't matter if it was new or old it always did the same thing on load.

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i messed up my instruction.

Go into 3rd person, open the console and then enter SetEssential 0, as everything else makes little to no sense. :D

Alternativly you can enter 00000014.SetEssential 0 or Player.SetEssential 0.


The only mod i remember that caused a messed up essential state, was the old SD together with other early mods that made the player essential. So mods that don't recognize the momentary essential state and switch it nilly-willy can cause this, as well as deactivating/uninstalling a mod while it switched the essential state to 1.

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Only mods i know i have thats can make my toon essential is DA, Defeat (swapped to defeat it always ran better for me then submit). As i said though even though the command didn't work for me porting from the main menu to qasmoke,tgm, then loading fixed my heath bug but nothing happens in my game still till i enter sneak no physics, animations nothing handy if i save as a ights starting than crash now i can let my game completely before I let anything attack altho i dont normally crash so would love to still find out the cause of that part of my issue. I do run DA with me a essential and Defeat though it I don't let Defeat handle my incap/death just what happens after i enter bleedout.

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if you use MO, delete all generated FNiS files (don't update them), update/reinstall your skeleton and run the FNiS generator again to get completly new files ... if you haven't already tried this, that is.
And make sure that the skeleton and the generated FNiS files are placed as low as possible, which should be at the end, in the list of installed mods.

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  • 4 weeks later...

I'm bumping this and removing the solved tab because part of the issue I've posted here still ain't fixed. I'm still having a issue when I load into game I have to go to sneak right away or the game locks up no npc movement, fire doesn't move, waters frozen etc its like the ai for everything is shut off until I do this making it impossible to load any save that I made while sneaking. My lo has changed since original post and it is playable but sometimes makes me wanna quit playing. I have been searching google for any hint at a fix since I originally posted but still nothing. If  i'm unable to activate sneak or delay doing it my health drops to 0 a load screen pops up for a few seconds to just load into nothing I have my hud but cant see me or anything in this space wherever it is. I'm still hoping somebody out there someplace has heard of this i've had to repeat several dungeons from the start just to fix this issue if I crash near the end (doesn't happen alot but most common if the dungeon has multiple load doors). Im gonna spend a few more minutes calming down before I go reclear this dungeon and try looking more for this exact issue wish I could go post on nexus but I don't wanna risk getting banned or something for all the mods im listing from here.


Oh I should note when creating a new character this doesnt happen for a little bit usually 2-3 saves but will eventually happen every time.

Active Mod Files:

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.8a]
03  Dawnguard.esm
04  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.8]
05  HearthFires.esm
06  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.8]
07  Dragonborn.esm
08  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.8]
09  Falskaar.esm
0A  SGHairPackBase.esm
0B  DynamicHumanDrops.esm
0C  ZaZAnimationPack.esm
0D  hdtHighHeel.esm
0E  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.59c]
0F  BeeingFemale.esm  [Version 2.2]
10  Devious Devices - Assets.esm  [Version 2.8.3]
11  SexLabAroused.esm
12  Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
13  Devious Devices - Integration.esm
14  daymoyl.esm
15  Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
16  RSkyrimChildren.esm
17  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
18  AdvancedKillMoves.esp
19  Extended UI.esp  [Version 1.0.4a]
1A  MoreNastyCritters.esp
1B  AK_RM_Tattoos.esp
1C  RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - UNP.esp
1D  AlwaysPickUpBooks.esp
++  Proper Aiming.esp
1E  Armor Merged HDT 1.esp
1F  SlaveTats.esp
20  Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
21  AMatterOfTime.esp  [Version 2.00]
22  Aradia Devious Expansion.esp
23  Apropos.esp
24  BHWarPaints.esp
25  AnonymousPeople.esp
26  Better Dynamic Snow.esp
27  FNISSexyMove.esp
28  SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp
29  SOS Equipable Schlong.esp
2A  BFAP v1.3.esp
2B  SkinTight.esp
2C  SGEyebrows.esp
2D  Additional Player Voices for Skyrim.esp  [Version 2.0]
2E  Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
2F  CitrusHead - Standalone.esp
30  AV1WarpaintPack.esp
31  YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp
32  DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp
33  NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
34  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
35  Devious Devices - Males Addon.esp
36  Deviously Enslaved.esp
37  Nuska Warpaint.esp
38  00FacialExpressions.esp
39  DialogueTweaks.esp
3A  RaceMenuNails.esp
3B  HelmetToggle2.02b.esp
3C  DSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.esp
3D  Dynamic TimeScale.esp
3E  DynamicHumanDrops - DG.esp
3F  Dawnguard - Join As A Vampire.esp
40  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
41  ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
42  3DNPC.esp  [Version 3.08]
++  AFT_iNPCFix.esp
43  EstrusChaurus.esp
44  AHZmoreHUD.esp  [Version 2.1.3]
45  Facelight.esp
46  FNIS - Shocky Poses Humans.esp
47  ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
48  Footprints.esp
49  Footprints - Ash.esp
4A  FNIS - Shocky Poses Misc.esp
4B  SkyUI.esp
4C  Dual Sheath Redux.esp
4D  DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
4E  Halo's Poser.esp
4F  NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp
50  FemaleMannequinsBreton.esp
51  DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp
52  ProperWeaponScale.esp
53  Traps Are Dangerous.esp
54  PumpingIron.esp
55  iHUD.esp
56  Immersive detection of NPC.esp
57  AchieveThat.esp
58  ImmersiveFP.esp
59  Pinup Poser.esp
5A  ImmerSlave-GagBlindCut.esp
5B  humanized elves.esp
5C  KJ Tattoos 4K.esp
5D  Kawaii Face Presets.esp
5E  KS Hairdo's.esp
5F  Left Hand Rings Merged.esp
60  LovelyHairstylesCE.esp
61  Majestic Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
62  Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp
63  mintylightningmod.esp
64  NusbieVoices.esp
65  Patch - Interesting NPCs - RS kids.esp
66  Bard Songs Overhall v2.esp
67  SexLab Warmbodies.esp
68  RaceMenu.esp
69  RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp
6A  TheEyesOfBeauty.esp  [Version 9]
6B  SDpatch - frostfall.esp
6C  Unique Grasses.esp
6D  SexLab Brawling Rape.esp
6E  SexLab Cumshot.esp  [Version 1.6]
6F  SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
70  SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
71  SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
72  SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
73  SexLabWerewolves.esp
74  SexLab_Paycrime.esp
75  SGHairPackAIO.esp
76  SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
77  SuicideGirl.esp
78  The Coenaculi.esp
79  ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp
7A  Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
7B  Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
7C  PWwaterfall.esp
7D  Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
7E  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
++  DovahBlingJewelry.esp
7F  Epic Races of Skyrim.esp
80  Epic Races - No Voices Change.esp
81  LHRV-1.9-USKP-UDGP Patch.esp
82  ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
83  mslVLKerriganWings.esp
84  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.5.2]
85  ELFXEnhancer.esp
86  Pureweather.esp
87  CR ENB Snow FX.esp
88  BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp
89  ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp
8A  SSv2.esp
8B  Helgen Reborn.esp  [Version 105.3]
8C  SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
8D  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
8E  RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp
8F  Babette.esp
90  sanguinesDebauchery.esp
91  SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
92  SD Cages.esp  [Version 1.9]
93  ESFCompanions.esp  [Version 0.3.7]
94  OBIS.esp
95  Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp
96  SexLab_Dialogues.esp
97  OBIS Redone.esp
98  OBISDB.esp
99  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6.5.2]
9A  RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
9B  Captured Dreams.esp
9C  SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
9D  Celestine.esp
9E  DFB - Random Encounters.esp  [Version 1.2]
9F  Disease Descriptions_RND Compatibile.esp
A0  wolfclub.esp
A1  HentaiCreatures.esp
A2  Inconsequential NPCs.esp
A3  Patch - Inconsequential NPCs - RS kids.esp
A4  dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
A5  Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp
A6  Victoria Velina Revamped.esp
A7  Cloaks.esp
A8  1nivWICCloaks.esp  [Version 2.3]
A9  SexLab-Stories.esp
AA  1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp  [Version 2.3]
AB  DD FtM - Cloaks WIC patch.esp
AC  Better Vampires.esp
AD  YOT - Better Vampires.esp
AE  Immersive Patrols II.esp
AF  DeviouslyHelpless.esp
B0  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
B1  SMIM-Merged-All.esp
B2  Jewlery Merged 2.esp
B3  WetandCold.esp
B4  WetandCold - Ashes.esp
B5  zMirai.esp
B6  PrivateNeedsNew.esp
B7  Purewaters.esp
B8  Purewaters-Falskaar.esp
B9  RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp
BA  Private Needs-DD.esp
BB  thereserve_v2.esp
BC  SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
BD  Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp
BE  RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp
BF  Chesko_Frostfall.esp
C0  CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp
C1  PerMa_Survivalism.esp
C2  Bandit Patrols.esp
C3  SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
C4  CompanionArissa.esp
C5  Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
C6  AngrimApprentice.esp
C7  SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp
C8  SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp
C9  AetherSuite.esp
CA  BooksOfSkyrim.esp
CB  daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
CC  LoversComfort.esp
CD  SpousesEnhanced.esp
CE  AmuletOfHomecoming.esp
CF  SexLabDefeat.esp
D0  mslDeviousCaptures.esp
D1  PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
D2  SexLabDangerousNights.esp
D3  PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
D4  PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
D5  PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
D6  PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
D7  BetterQuestObjectives.esp
D8  The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp  [Version 1.2.8]
D9  Devious Cidhna.esp
DA  Hunterborn.esp
DB  Witch Of The Wild.esp
DC  Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
DD  Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp
++  Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp
DE  YOT - Hunterborn.esp
DF  Armor Merged 3.esp
E0  BlockSparkles.esp
E1  Armor Merged 2.esp
E2  Armor Merged 1.esp
E3  BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp
E4  Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
E5  Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp
E6  Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
E7  BetterBooksOfSkyrim.esp
E8  Devious Deviants.esp
E9  JaxonzUtilities.esp
EA  Jewlery Merged 1.esp
EB  PetCollar.esp
EC  AstralMerchantAndChest.esp
ED  Pre PaMa Gold_Marksmanship_Models_Ranged Patch.esp
++  Perma Gold.esp
EE  FluffusMinimus_Legendaryish.esp
EF  FluffusMinimus_Mage.esp
F0  DCL-FF patch.esp
F1  zzEstrus.esp
F2  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 2.5.5]
F3  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
F4  Better quest objectives merged.esp
F5  SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
F6  RealShelter.esp
F7  RealShelterFF.esp
F8  RSPatch.esp
F9  Breezehome hearthfire redux.esp
FA  ImmerSlave.esp
++  Pre PaMa CCF Patch.esp
FB  Pre PaMa WAFR Patch.esp
FC  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
FD  PatchusMaximus.esp
FE  Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

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Ill gen 2 logs 1 with me in sneak already before loading and one when I enter after in a sec just alt tabbed to check a thread I spotted earlier about acadia living harness killing heal regen permanently since im now dealing with that to I swear to god im gonna end up digging a hole in my desk soon if I cant keep bugs from poping up for a few hours or worse. I have a habit latley of stabbing my comp desk with a pocket knife when something goes wrong.


Edit: Pap log 0 sneaking allredy when loading reloaded save again a min later to force it to do the port/health bug it didnt want to do it when i tryed to get out of sneak for once but a reload allways does it. And log 1 is me loaded a good save and goign right into sneak note if I dont do this within 30-60 sec or so what happens in log 0 happens every time. And posting a ss of what i see after sometimes its black sometimes i see this.









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Tbh Ihuds only really put to use when Im doing screenshot work so I could ditch that cant say I ever shut off my compass while playing as far as encounters most are old well before this issue cropped up dbf is a new one i added recently but well after I noticed the issue. I think I had updated Ihud right around when I first had this issue gonna try dropping that. My saves are clean i just did it again recently due to reverting beeing female from the beta back to 1.14 due to me believing it was causing a very annoying issue.


Ive tried to fix that recurring pred script issue for a long time altho ive never been able to say for sure that its anything more then a log spam ive had it for months.

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It doesn nesseserily have to be a broken mod. And as a matter of fact I think there are few chances that the problem is caused by a broken mod. A broken mod would spam your log and would be easy to find. 

What will not spam your log though (I think) is a mod conflict. I think thats the case here. Or something close to that. 

Resently I had a problem in Skyrims ENB because of a PC virus.. Go Figure.


(check msconfig's boot tab just to be certain  :) )

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I honestly think some of m issues is just cause i have to play on such a old pc while im running pretty high end stuff with plentyish of ram I know my mainboards been trying to croak for a long time but nothing I can do about it im jobless my brother buys me all my pc parts. Because of him im running a 2.8 ghz 4 core cpu vs my 2.7 ghz dual 6 gb ddr2 insted of 4 gb and a nvidia 660 gtx 2 gb vs my 8600gt 512 and thats just what hes surprised me with recently.

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Tell me about it.

I'm jobless too for quite some time, stuck with an phenomII 3.4 4 core, 8 Gig Ram and an Radeon HD 4890 2 gig RAm.

Installed the latest ENB, tweaked the memory stuff a bit and its the first time I hear my graphics card fan going bezerk :-)


So, yea, there is a chance that the system caanot cope with all the scripts running. My game crashe 12 times out of 10 trying to load a game.  :s

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Thats already been covered plus i use enb myself I run pure vision sometimes I can play for 6 hrs without a crash sometimes 5 min still though. Ihud doesnt seem to be the issue I uninstalled it did seem to gain a bit better performance but still have to enter sneak quickly or risk fucking my game up. I should note that sometimes things will start for a few seconds but then pause completely and if the port happens ill hear my audio click it will do it again also if i try to load another save or force the game to shut down.

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