bahamut2119 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 This exact bug got me to reinstall my game thinking one of my mods was messed up bad I did try to find the issue before hand but aapon a load of any save new or old it cropped up again. So what i'm seeing is upon load the ai is frozen solid i cant move they cant move nothing however i can open menus and apparently hitting the sneak button fixes it this time but last install it seem to trigger a daymol death load screen then nothing but black and it only started last time after i entered dragonsreach. Numerous google searches gave me nothing but tpose info but thats not whats going on so asking for help before this explodes again into something i cant seem to fix.  Current LO Active Mod Files: 00  Skyrim.esm 01  Update.esm 02  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.8a] 03  Dawnguard.esm 04  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.8] 05  HearthFires.esm 06  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.8] 07  Dragonborn.esm 08  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.8] 09  SGHairPackBase.esm 0A  AzarHair.esm 0B  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 0C  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.59c] 0D  BeeingFemale.esm  [Version 1.14] 0E  Devious Devices - Assets.esm  [Version 2.8.3] 0F  ApachiiHair.esm 10  SexLabAroused.esm 11  hdtHighHeel.esm 12  HepsyHair.esm 13  RSkyrimChildren.esm 14  SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp 15  ZaZAnimationPack.esm 16  daymoyl.esm 17  Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 18  Devious Devices - Integration.esm 19  Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 1A  DD_restrained.esp 1B  SexLabWerewolves.esp 1C  BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp 1D  AlwaysPickUpBooks.esp 1E  SlaveTats.esp 1F  Nuska Warpaint.esp 20  Better Dynamic Snow.esp 21  Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp ++  Proper Aiming.esp 22  Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 23  AMatterOfTime.esp  [Version 2.00] 24  AnonymousPeople.esp 25  Aradia Devious Expansion.esp 26  Dawnguard - Join As A Vampire.esp 27  AdvancedKillMoves.esp 28  AK_RM_Tattoos.esp 29  RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - UNP.esp 2A  SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp 2B  chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp 2C  Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 2D  Apropos.esp 2E  DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp 2F  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 30  YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp 31  DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp 32  NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp 33  Devious Devices - Males Addon.esp 34  DeviousDevice - More Devious Quest.esp 35  EnchantedArsenal.esp  [Version 1.0] 36  Unique Grasses.esp 37  DSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.esp 38  DialogueTweaks.esp 39  RaceMenuNails.esp 3A  HelmetToggle2.02b.esp 3B  BFAP v1.2.esp 3C  LeftHandRings.esp  [Version 1.4] 3D  LovelyHairstylesLITE.esp 3E  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 3F  ELFX - Dawnguard.esp 40  3DNPC.esp  [Version 3.06.9] ++  AFT_iNPCFix.esp 41  SexLabWorkingGirl.esp 42  EstrusChaurus.esp 43  Facelight.esp 44  Fhaarkas Font Mod - SkyUI.esp 45  ELFX - Dragonborn.esp 46  SexLab-AmorousAdventures-ArousalTriggers.esp 47  FNISSexyMove.esp 48  Footprints.esp 49  Footprints - Ash.esp 4A  SkyUI.esp 4B  Dual Sheath Redux.esp 4C  AchieveThat.esp 4D  NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp 4E  FemaleMannequinsBreton.esp 4F  ProperWeaponScale.esp 50  Traps Are Dangerous.esp 51  iHUD.esp 52  Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp 53  Epic Races of Skyrim.esp 54  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 55  ImmersiveFP.esp 56  ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp 57  KJ Tattoos 4K.esp 58  Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 59  KS Hairdo's.esp 5A  SexLab_Dialogues.esp 5B  Majestic Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp 5C  mintylightningmod.esp 5D  MoreNastyCritters.esp 5E  Moss Rocks.esp 5F  SLA Monitor Widget.esp 60  mslVLKerriganWings.esp 61  NUHairstyles.esp 62  Patch - Interesting NPCs - RS kids.esp 63  Bard Songs Overhall v2.esp 64  TheEyesOfBeauty.esp  [Version 9] 65  TSLCF1.esp 66  RaceMenu.esp 67  LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp  [Version 1.4] 68  RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp 69  SexLab Brawling Rape.esp 6A  SexLab Cumshot.esp  [Version 1.6] 6B  SexLab Extra Voices.esp 6C  SexLab Warmbodies.esp 6D  SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 6E  SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 6F  SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 70  SexLab_Paycrime.esp 71  SGEyebrows.esp 72  sr_ifpssl.esp 73  SGHairPackAIO.esp 74  SkinTight.esp 75  SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp  [Version 1.2.] 76  SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 77  SOS Equipable Schlong.esp 78  SOTAntiCTD.esp 79  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.5.2] 7A  ELFXEnhancer.esp 7B  BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 7C  Pureweather.esp 7D  ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp 7E  Helgen Reborn.esp  [Version 105.3] 7F  SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp 80  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 81  CPR.esp 82  Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 83  SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp 84  zdd.esp 85  HorrifiedFemalePrisons.esp 86  ESFCompanions.esp  [Version 0.3.7] 87  dD-Dawnguard-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp 88  OBIS.esp 89  OBIS Redone.esp 8A  OBISDB.esp 8B  Civil War Overhaul.esp 8C  HDT Havok Object.esp 8D  Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp 8E  BetterQuestObjectives.esp 8F  BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp 90  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 91  FollowerWander2.esp 92  FollowerWander2Serana.esp 93  SSv2.esp 94  Thieves Guild Requirements.esp 95  BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp 96  Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp 97  BetterQuestObjectives-BetterStealthAIPatch.esp 98  BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp 99  BetterQuestObjectives-ThievesGuildRequirementsPatch.esp 9A  Captured Dreams.esp 9B  RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 9C  WATER.esp 9D  Bathing in Skyrim - Water for WATER (Vanilla).esp 9E  Disease Descriptions_RND Compatibile.esp 9F  RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp A0  RND_USKP-Patch.esp A1  RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp A2  Babette.esp A3  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6.5.2] A4  WATER DB Waves.esp A5  RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp A6  HentaiCreatures.esp A7  Inconsequential NPCs.esp A8  Patch - Inconsequential NPCs - RS kids.esp A9  Bathing in Skyrim - Water for WATER (Dragonborn + Waves).esp AA  The Coenaculi.esp AB  TSGLTR.esp AC  TSLCFbeta.esp AD  TSLCFgamma.esp AE  Victoria Velina Revamped.esp AF  Better Vampires.esp B0  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp B1  YOT - Better Vampires.esp B2  Cloaks.esp B3  1nivWICCloaks.esp  [Version 2.3] B4  SexLab-Stories.esp B5  AliciaPainSlut.esp B6  1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp  [Version 2.3] B7  DD FtM - Cloaks WIC patch.esp B8  Immersive Patrols II.esp B9  DeviouslyHelpless.esp BA  SMIM-Merged-All.esp BB  DeviousRegulations.esp BC  SkyrimImmersionPatch.esp BD  ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp BE  WetandCold.esp BF  WetandCold - Ashes.esp C0  zMirai.esp C1  thereserve_v2.esp C2  Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp C3  RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp C4  Chesko_Frostfall.esp C5  PerMa_Survivalism.esp C6  RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp C7  Bandit Patrols.esp C8  CompanionArissa.esp C9  Jewlery Merged 01.esp CA  MiasLair.esp  [Version 33] CB  AngrimApprentice.esp CC  BooksOfSkyrim.esp CD  daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp CE  Epic Races - No Voices Change.esp CF  LHRV-1.9-USKP-UDGP Patch.esp D0  PerkusMaximus_Master.esp D1  PerMa Weaponry Fillout.esp D2  PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp D3  Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp D4  PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp D5  PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp D6  AstralMerchantAndChest.esp ++  Perma Gold.esp D7  PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp D8  SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp D9  SexLabDangerousNights.esp DA  SpousesEnhanced.esp DB  AmuletOfHomecoming.esp DC  WATER DG.esp DD  Bathing in Skyrim - Water for WATER (Dawnguard).esp DE  WATER Plants.esp DF  BetterBooksOfSkyrim.esp E0  Devious Deviants.esp E1  SexLabDefeat.esp E2  The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp  [Version 1.2.8] E3  BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp E4  Devious Cidhna.esp E5  Hunterborn.esp E6  Witch Of The Wild.esp ++  Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp E7  Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp E8  Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp E9  YOT - Hunterborn.esp EA  mslDeviousCaptures.esp EB  LoversComfort.esp EC  SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp ED  BlockSparkles.esp EE  zzEstrus.esp EF  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 2.5.2] F0  Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp F1  SexLab_DibellaCult.esp F2  RealShelter.esp F3  RSPatch.esp F4  BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp F5  Bashed Patch, 0.esp F6  PatchusMaximus.esp F7  Breezehome hearthfire redux.esp  There is 4 mods not listed atm 3 merged armor/clothing/jewelry mods i made but rerunning patchus atm and it hates em and dual sheathe patch that requires at least one of those so its disabled for this.   And ill post all 4 of my pap logs some will be pretty big ive been playing for a few hrs but dropped out to do a mod swap im am also looking though em 0 was a quick load to shut down a mod for removal so prob be the best one to look at.   Papyrus.0.log Papyrus.3.log Link to comment
CGi Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Sounds like an old issue to me. Open the console in the main menu and enter CoC QASmoke. When loaded, enable GodMode (TGM). Load your errornous save. Go into 3rd person and click on your toon. Open the console and enter SetEssential 0. Heal your toon. Save your game. Completly quit it and reload the game. Hope that this fixed it. Â it's just a guess, but to me it sounds like a mod messed up the essential state, so your toon dies on game load. That your game doesn't tell you so, might be due to even more errors and the resulting overload. Cleaning your SaveGame is highly recommended. Link to comment
bahamut2119 Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 I am just about to rework my merged mods a bit i think my error may be coming from them besides i just looked a bit ago at a forge and only my hdt merged armors (had to out them in there own file purkus hates hdt atm) and some of my jewelery worked but not all i may have merged to many or some may have errors. and im gonna try and do some trimming altho knowing me ill still be in the 240-250 active mods again real quick. Â Im copying that fix to a post it just incase i get these death events again right now going into sneak then back out gets the ai working so ty. The save that was dieing on load is long gone along with that full install however it didn't matter if it was new or old it always did the same thing on load. Link to comment
bahamut2119 Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 Just a quick update had the full thing happen again tryed what you posted altho i couldn't use the essential command it worked beautifully thank god now i wanna know why this is happening to me exactly. Link to comment
CGi Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 i messed up my instruction. Go into 3rd person, open the console and then enter SetEssential 0, as everything else makes little to no sense. Alternativly you can enter 00000014.SetEssential 0 or Player.SetEssential 0. Â The only mod i remember that caused a messed up essential state, was the old SD together with other early mods that made the player essential. So mods that don't recognize the momentary essential state and switch it nilly-willy can cause this, as well as deactivating/uninstalling a mod while it switched the essential state to 1. Link to comment
bahamut2119 Posted December 18, 2014 Author Share Posted December 18, 2014 Only mods i know i have thats can make my toon essential is DA, Defeat (swapped to defeat it always ran better for me then submit). As i said though even though the command didn't work for me porting from the main menu to qasmoke,tgm, then loading fixed my heath bug but nothing happens in my game still till i enter sneak no physics, animations nothing handy if i save as a ights starting than crash now i can let my game completely before I let anything attack altho i dont normally crash so would love to still find out the cause of that part of my issue. I do run DA with me a essential and Defeat though it I don't let Defeat handle my incap/death just what happens after i enter bleedout. Link to comment
CGi Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 if you use MO, delete all generated FNiS files (don't update them), update/reinstall your skeleton and run the FNiS generator again to get completly new files ... if you haven't already tried this, that is.And make sure that the skeleton and the generated FNiS files are placed as low as possible, which should be at the end, in the list of installed mods. Link to comment
azmodan22 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Death Alternative (16  daymoyl.esm) makes your character immortal in order to work. Maybe it has bugged out somehow. does it have a reset button? If not try to make a clean save without it, clean your save with save tool and re-install it. Link to comment
bahamut2119 Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 I'm bumping this and removing the solved tab because part of the issue I've posted here still ain't fixed. I'm still having a issue when I load into game I have to go to sneak right away or the game locks up no npc movement, fire doesn't move, waters frozen etc its like the ai for everything is shut off until I do this making it impossible to load any save that I made while sneaking. My lo has changed since original post and it is playable but sometimes makes me wanna quit playing. I have been searching google for any hint at a fix since I originally posted but still nothing. If  i'm unable to activate sneak or delay doing it my health drops to 0 a load screen pops up for a few seconds to just load into nothing I have my hud but cant see me or anything in this space wherever it is. I'm still hoping somebody out there someplace has heard of this i've had to repeat several dungeons from the start just to fix this issue if I crash near the end (doesn't happen alot but most common if the dungeon has multiple load doors). Im gonna spend a few more minutes calming down before I go reclear this dungeon and try looking more for this exact issue wish I could go post on nexus but I don't wanna risk getting banned or something for all the mods im listing from here.  Oh I should note when creating a new character this doesnt happen for a little bit usually 2-3 saves but will eventually happen every time. Active Mod Files: 00  Skyrim.esm 01  Update.esm 02  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.8a] 03  Dawnguard.esm 04  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.8] 05  HearthFires.esm 06  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.8] 07  Dragonborn.esm 08  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.8] 09  Falskaar.esm 0A  SGHairPackBase.esm 0B  DynamicHumanDrops.esm 0C  ZaZAnimationPack.esm 0D  hdtHighHeel.esm 0E  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.59c] 0F  BeeingFemale.esm  [Version 2.2] 10  Devious Devices - Assets.esm  [Version 2.8.3] 11  SexLabAroused.esm 12  Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 13  Devious Devices - Integration.esm 14  daymoyl.esm 15  Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 16  RSkyrimChildren.esm 17  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 18  AdvancedKillMoves.esp 19  Extended UI.esp  [Version 1.0.4a] 1A  MoreNastyCritters.esp 1B  AK_RM_Tattoos.esp 1C  RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - UNP.esp 1D  AlwaysPickUpBooks.esp ++  Proper Aiming.esp 1E  Armor Merged HDT 1.esp 1F  SlaveTats.esp 20  Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 21  AMatterOfTime.esp  [Version 2.00] 22  Aradia Devious Expansion.esp 23  Apropos.esp 24  BHWarPaints.esp 25  AnonymousPeople.esp 26  Better Dynamic Snow.esp 27  FNISSexyMove.esp 28  SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp 29  SOS Equipable Schlong.esp 2A  BFAP v1.3.esp 2B  SkinTight.esp 2C  SGEyebrows.esp 2D  Additional Player Voices for Skyrim.esp  [Version 2.0] 2E  Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 2F  CitrusHead - Standalone.esp 30  AV1WarpaintPack.esp 31  YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp 32  DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp 33  NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp 34  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 35  Devious Devices - Males Addon.esp 36  Deviously Enslaved.esp 37  Nuska Warpaint.esp 38  00FacialExpressions.esp 39  DialogueTweaks.esp 3A  RaceMenuNails.esp 3B  HelmetToggle2.02b.esp 3C  DSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.esp 3D  Dynamic TimeScale.esp 3E  DynamicHumanDrops - DG.esp 3F  Dawnguard - Join As A Vampire.esp 40  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 41  ELFX - Dawnguard.esp 42  3DNPC.esp  [Version 3.08] ++  AFT_iNPCFix.esp 43  EstrusChaurus.esp 44  AHZmoreHUD.esp  [Version 2.1.3] 45  Facelight.esp 46  FNIS - Shocky Poses Humans.esp 47  ELFX - Dragonborn.esp 48  Footprints.esp 49  Footprints - Ash.esp 4A  FNIS - Shocky Poses Misc.esp 4B  SkyUI.esp 4C  Dual Sheath Redux.esp 4D  DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp 4E  Halo's Poser.esp 4F  NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp 50  FemaleMannequinsBreton.esp 51  DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp 52  ProperWeaponScale.esp 53  Traps Are Dangerous.esp 54  PumpingIron.esp 55  iHUD.esp 56  Immersive detection of NPC.esp 57  AchieveThat.esp 58  ImmersiveFP.esp 59  Pinup Poser.esp 5A  ImmerSlave-GagBlindCut.esp 5B  humanized elves.esp 5C  KJ Tattoos 4K.esp 5D  Kawaii Face Presets.esp 5E  KS Hairdo's.esp 5F  Left Hand Rings Merged.esp 60  LovelyHairstylesCE.esp 61  Majestic Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp 62  Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp 63  mintylightningmod.esp 64  NusbieVoices.esp 65  Patch - Interesting NPCs - RS kids.esp 66  Bard Songs Overhall v2.esp 67  SexLab Warmbodies.esp 68  RaceMenu.esp 69  RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp 6A  TheEyesOfBeauty.esp  [Version 9] 6B  SDpatch - frostfall.esp 6C  Unique Grasses.esp 6D  SexLab Brawling Rape.esp 6E  SexLab Cumshot.esp  [Version 1.6] 6F  SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp 70  SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 71  SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 72  SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 73  SexLabWerewolves.esp 74  SexLab_Paycrime.esp 75  SGHairPackAIO.esp 76  SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 77  SuicideGirl.esp 78  The Coenaculi.esp 79  ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp 7A  Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 7B  Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 7C  PWwaterfall.esp 7D  Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp 7E  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ++  DovahBlingJewelry.esp 7F  Epic Races of Skyrim.esp 80  Epic Races - No Voices Change.esp 81  LHRV-1.9-USKP-UDGP Patch.esp 82  ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp 83  mslVLKerriganWings.esp 84  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.5.2] 85  ELFXEnhancer.esp 86  Pureweather.esp 87  CR ENB Snow FX.esp 88  BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 89  ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp 8A  SSv2.esp 8B  Helgen Reborn.esp  [Version 105.3] 8C  SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp 8D  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 8E  RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp 8F  Babette.esp 90  sanguinesDebauchery.esp 91  SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp 92  SD Cages.esp  [Version 1.9] 93  ESFCompanions.esp  [Version 0.3.7] 94  OBIS.esp 95  Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp 96  SexLab_Dialogues.esp 97  OBIS Redone.esp 98  OBISDB.esp 99  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6.5.2] 9A  RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 9B  Captured Dreams.esp 9C  SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp 9D  Celestine.esp 9E  DFB - Random Encounters.esp  [Version 1.2] 9F  Disease Descriptions_RND Compatibile.esp A0  wolfclub.esp A1  HentaiCreatures.esp A2  Inconsequential NPCs.esp A3  Patch - Inconsequential NPCs - RS kids.esp A4  dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp A5  Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp A6  Victoria Velina Revamped.esp A7  Cloaks.esp A8  1nivWICCloaks.esp  [Version 2.3] A9  SexLab-Stories.esp AA  1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp  [Version 2.3] AB  DD FtM - Cloaks WIC patch.esp AC  Better Vampires.esp AD  YOT - Better Vampires.esp AE  Immersive Patrols II.esp AF  DeviouslyHelpless.esp B0  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp B1  SMIM-Merged-All.esp B2  Jewlery Merged 2.esp B3  WetandCold.esp B4  WetandCold - Ashes.esp B5  zMirai.esp B6  PrivateNeedsNew.esp B7  Purewaters.esp B8  Purewaters-Falskaar.esp B9  RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp BA  Private Needs-DD.esp BB  thereserve_v2.esp BC  SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp BD  Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp BE  RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp BF  Chesko_Frostfall.esp C0  CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp C1  PerMa_Survivalism.esp C2  Bandit Patrols.esp C3  SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp C4  CompanionArissa.esp C5  Deviously Cursed Loot.esp C6  AngrimApprentice.esp C7  SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp C8  SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp C9  AetherSuite.esp CA  BooksOfSkyrim.esp CB  daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp CC  LoversComfort.esp CD  SpousesEnhanced.esp CE  AmuletOfHomecoming.esp CF  SexLabDefeat.esp D0  mslDeviousCaptures.esp D1  PerkusMaximus_Master.esp D2  SexLabDangerousNights.esp D3  PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp D4  PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp D5  PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp D6  PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp D7  BetterQuestObjectives.esp D8  The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp  [Version 1.2.8] D9  Devious Cidhna.esp DA  Hunterborn.esp DB  Witch Of The Wild.esp DC  Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp DD  Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp ++  Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp DE  YOT - Hunterborn.esp DF  Armor Merged 3.esp E0  BlockSparkles.esp E1  Armor Merged 2.esp E2  Armor Merged 1.esp E3  BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp E4  Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp E5  Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp E6  Thieves Guild Requirements.esp E7  BetterBooksOfSkyrim.esp E8  Devious Deviants.esp E9  JaxonzUtilities.esp EA  Jewlery Merged 1.esp EB  PetCollar.esp EC  AstralMerchantAndChest.esp ED  Pre PaMa Gold_Marksmanship_Models_Ranged Patch.esp ++  Perma Gold.esp EE  FluffusMinimus_Legendaryish.esp EF  FluffusMinimus_Mage.esp F0  DCL-FF patch.esp F1  zzEstrus.esp F2  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 2.5.5] F3  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp F4  Better quest objectives merged.esp F5  SexLab_DibellaCult.esp F6  RealShelter.esp F7  RealShelterFF.esp F8  RSPatch.esp F9  Breezehome hearthfire redux.esp FA  ImmerSlave.esp ++  Pre PaMa CCF Patch.esp FB  Pre PaMa WAFR Patch.esp FC  Bashed Patch, 0.esp FD  PatchusMaximus.esp FE  Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp  Link to comment
azmodan22 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Try to enable papyrous logging to see if we can get any ideas from there. The problem you have is definately cause by a mod. The problem is wich one. Link to comment
bahamut2119 Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 Ill gen 2 logs 1 with me in sneak already before loading and one when I enter after in a sec just alt tabbed to check a thread I spotted earlier about acadia living harness killing heal regen permanently since im now dealing with that to I swear to god im gonna end up digging a hole in my desk soon if I cant keep bugs from poping up for a few hours or worse. I have a habit latley of stabbing my comp desk with a pocket knife when something goes wrong. Â Edit: Pap log 0 sneaking allredy when loading reloaded save again a min later to force it to do the port/health bug it didnt want to do it when i tryed to get out of sneak for once but a reload allways does it. And log 1 is me loaded a good save and goign right into sneak note if I dont do this within 30-60 sec or so what happens in log 0 happens every time. And posting a ss of what i see after sometimes its black sometimes i see this. Â Â Â Â Â Papyrus.0.log Papyrus.1.log Link to comment
azmodan22 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Loots of errors  My two suspects are iHub, and a mod that alters encounters in the wild. Dont know which one though 'cus you have several. Have you tried to clean your save with save tool? Link to comment
bahamut2119 Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 Tbh Ihuds only really put to use when Im doing screenshot work so I could ditch that cant say I ever shut off my compass while playing as far as encounters most are old well before this issue cropped up dbf is a new one i added recently but well after I noticed the issue. I think I had updated Ihud right around when I first had this issue gonna try dropping that. My saves are clean i just did it again recently due to reverting beeing female from the beta back to 1.14 due to me believing it was causing a very annoying issue. Â Ive tried to fix that recurring pred script issue for a long time altho ive never been able to say for sure that its anything more then a log spam ive had it for months. Link to comment
azmodan22 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 It doesn nesseserily have to be a broken mod. And as a matter of fact I think there are few chances that the problem is caused by a broken mod. A broken mod would spam your log and would be easy to find. What will not spam your log though (I think) is a mod conflict. I think thats the case here. Or something close to that. Resently I had a problem in Skyrims ENB because of a PC virus.. Go Figure.  (check msconfig's boot tab just to be certain ) Link to comment
bahamut2119 Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 I honestly think some of m issues is just cause i have to play on such a old pc while im running pretty high end stuff with plentyish of ram I know my mainboards been trying to croak for a long time but nothing I can do about it im jobless my brother buys me all my pc parts. Because of him im running a 2.8 ghz 4 core cpu vs my 2.7 ghz dual 6 gb ddr2 insted of 4 gb and a nvidia 660 gtx 2 gb vs my 8600gt 512 and thats just what hes surprised me with recently. Link to comment
azmodan22 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 HA! Tell me about it. I'm jobless too for quite some time, stuck with an phenomII 3.4 4 core, 8 Gig Ram and an Radeon HD 4890 2 gig RAm. Installed the latest ENB, tweaked the memory stuff a bit and its the first time I hear my graphics card fan going bezerk :-)  So, yea, there is a chance that the system caanot cope with all the scripts running. My game crashe 12 times out of 10 trying to load a game. Link to comment
azmodan22 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 see if your SKSE.ini has these in it  [General] ClearInvalidRegistrations=1 [Memory] DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768 ScrapHeapSizeMB=256  made the game a bit more stable for me Link to comment
bahamut2119 Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Thats already been covered plus i use enb myself I run pure vision sometimes I can play for 6 hrs without a crash sometimes 5 min still though. Ihud doesnt seem to be the issue I uninstalled it did seem to gain a bit better performance but still have to enter sneak quickly or risk fucking my game up. I should note that sometimes things will start for a few seconds but then pause completely and if the port happens ill hear my audio click it will do it again also if i try to load another save or force the game to shut down. Link to comment
bahamut2119 Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 I cant confirm yet but actually looks like Ihud was part of the issue the whole time ive had to reload the game a couple times and havent had to sneak right after but I wanna try it more before I def can say its fixed finally. Link to comment
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