AnnaFly Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 Greetings. Well i don't understand a few things about a few mods here at LL ... sorry. I cannot understand which base is used to create some " lower bodies and feet " , exemple : the " New HGEC Based Body" by Oldwolf58 , the new GBEC ( UNPK-HGEC) by Gooboo , and may be some lower used in the Set body Reloaded .... For this last one ( Set body Reloaded) most of the lower fit the feet ( or shoes , even the Real Highheels models ) i usualy use. So i will consider that they are made from a " good base " ( Standard ? ) . I'm just talking about the lower body part and feet ... I just saw tonight that the GBEC and the body from Oldwolf share the same base ... The GBEC lower fit perfectly the feet ( LC05- LowerClass 05) from the Oldwolf58's mod " Oblivion Vanilla Highheels" ... but that mean they are incompatible with all others HGEC bodies i used untill this day ... so what's wrong ? All the models ( since 2007-2008 ) i used fit perfectly each one , i can mix any Exnem based lower ( or feet) with most of the "standardized " HGEC lowers/feets and vice versa. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/36394-unpk-oblivion/page-2?do=findComment&comment=971987 http://www.loverslab.com/topic/32035-new-hgec-based-body-sort-of/?do=findComment&comment=801095 So i cannot understand what's wrong ( if there is something wrong) with these two mods . It seams that the bases body used here are not the same as most of other bases used by most of the modders. M'i wrong ? Cheers , and sorry for my english , it's not my native tongue and i don't use any translator . Thanks for reading. PS : in fact i wrote that with the idea that their authors wanted to create a HGEC compatible model of course ... and by compatible i mean where we can mix some body parts ( lower and feet in particular) and not only HGEC " Texture " compatible.
kingkong Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 when it is hgec compatible it is generaly about textures (same uv textures) . and usualy when the body is provided with feet and hands you have a very big probability that feet and hands will not fit an other bodies. (they might have modded them also) . you can always use blender to make your prefered body compatible with standard hgec feet or you have gerra6 seam mender tool standalone .
AnnaFly Posted October 30, 2014 Author Posted October 30, 2014 when it is hgec compatible it is generaly about textures (same uv textures) . and usualy when the body is provided with feet and hands you have a very big probability that feet and hands will not fit an other bodies. (they might have modded them also) . you can always use blender to make your prefered body compatible with standard hgec feet or you have gerra6 seam mender tool standalone . Greetings. Hi , KingKong. Thank you for your response. I know that there is a probability that when a body come with hands and feet , these one will not fit others " HGEC based bodies. But the GBEC came without hand and feet ... i don't need Blender in this case , simply because the hand and feet from Oldwolf58 fit perfectly the GBEC body ... and Fejeena provide yesterday another feet already done with the Gerra6's tool . What i don't understand , is wich HGEC base was used ? Usually by the past, when an experimented modder put a mod somewhere ( and this doesn't mean that i consider these two modders as "noobs" of course ...) , there was not only the final meshes , by also another ( not weighted ) file " for modders..." and in this file there was the original mesh(es) . I 'm glad Gooboo create this one ( GBEC) , especially because the lower don't fit the other feet or shoes i use ... like this , i can see what the Gerra6's tools can really do ! I will try in a few minutes to convert a whole GBEC body ( with Oldwolf58 Hands & Feet ) to a HGEC F-cup ... as a clothe and not a body with the gerra6 Clothing Converter ... i just want to know if this tool can change / modify the separation from / between the upper and lower body parts ... if it's the case , this will generate a new GBEC body but HGECG Full compatible this time ... without the need to use a tool such " Blender" . So , i will test it now , cheers.
gooboo Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 Are you asking which bodymod I used as the base for GBEC in Blender? I'm not sure I understand.
movomo Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 What deals with the seam issue is seam mender, not clothing converter. At least in conventional ways. Setbody blockhead comes with a handy package of pre-generated seam data files. The purpose of the modders resource archive is exactly to help standarizing batches of body-like files. You can input those .pkg files and the target meshes, and in pretty much every case seam mender does it fine.
AnnaFly Posted October 30, 2014 Author Posted October 30, 2014 Are you asking which bodymod I used as the base for GBEC in Blender? I'm not sure I understand. Hi there. Oh thank you to your reply Gooboo. Yes , that's what i want to know , because your lower don't match any feet/shoes i got by the past ! And must of all , a big thanks for your body ! I 've just made a quick conversion with the incrdible Gerra6 Cloting Converter ( et franchement , " chapeau" pour son concetertisseur !!! ... in english i suppose that the french term translated will be " thumb up " or something like that...) Here the conversion i made a few minutes ago ... it's from a HGEC E-cup , but using the Moving breast system, not the BBB , but it works well too if you use the Mur_Zik ( ?) 0Sexywalk01 version BBB ... with the Oldwolf58 Hands & Feet ( thanks to him , the two meshes fit perfectly your body ... but you can use any HGEC hands ...) and the feet used for the "To" ( Lattice ) are the one that came with the Set Body Reloaded version 1.20 , but they match any of my lower bodies or lower clotes/armor i use . The Lower body is the HGEC "Original" normal ( RAIAR second Edition like the one used by Colourwheel and i took it from one of Colourwheel's mod , same thing for the pantiy and the stocking ... Now, what i want to do is to simply convert your lower to fit the others HGEC Feet and not the inverse processus like the one provided by Fejeena yesterday ( and thanks to her, too). One more time , big thanks for your body . Cheers. PS : the Skeleton is the one from LAPF version 1-6 ... it was already there ( in the two different nifs ) when the Lattice was generated and when i convert this "outfit" PPS : for this test i only used the Gerra6's tool version 089e without any upgrade, and all parameters by default , for the Lattice and for the Clothing Converter . The name of the final mesh ( this ".nif" ) is the one used for the "Target" of course ... NB ; the excessive breasts bouncing/moving effect is already there in the original file , it's not due to a bad conversion by the Gerra6 tool.. skeleton LAPF v1-6 +Ecup MovingBreast & CW lower.nif
AnnaFly Posted October 30, 2014 Author Posted October 30, 2014 What deals with the seam issue is seam mender, not clothing converter. At least in conventional ways. Setbody blockhead comes with a handy package of pre-generated seam data files. The purpose of the modders resource archive is exactly to help standarizing batches of body-like files. You can input those .pkg files and the target meshes, and in pretty much every case seam mender does it fine. Hi there. Hi Movomo , and thank you too for your reply. I don't need to use Seam Mender , there is already two different pairs of Feet here on LL ... incredible site too ! The one provided yesterday by Fejeena ( and she made it with Sam Mender , so i don't need to do it once again ...) but there was already anothe pair compatible in the Oldwolf58 last body " New HGEC Based Body sort of " ... and one more time thank to him too ! Cheers. NB , i 'll continue in a few hours, sorry but it's very late in my country ( 05 AM in Bruxelles ..in French)
gooboo Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 Hi AnnaFly, I don't know if you still need this or not but this is the original file that I downloaded and then modified to make the GBEC body. http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/28235/? I just changed the upper and lower body meshes to make the GBEC body, and didn't mess around with the hands or feet that came with it. Hope this helps some.
AnnaFly Posted October 30, 2014 Author Posted October 30, 2014 Hi AnnaFly, I don't know if you still need this or not but this is the original file that I downloaded and then modified to make the GBEC body. http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/28235/? I just changed the upper and lower body meshes to make the GBEC body, and didn't mess around with the hands or feet that came with it. Hope this helps some. Hi there. Hi Gooboo. Yes , thank you. Fejeena ( " ... big bisous ..." to her " ...) provided another lower from yours and this one fit perfectly the other outfits ( Shoes, Real highHeels and Feet ) i use. I suppose i'm not the only one to be " disappointed" by this "issue" , so now all is going well . Strange that your version cause that " problem " in my installations , but i saw the same "issue" with one Oldwolf58's mod ... " Oblivivion Vanilla highheels " .... i 'm sure i also used the mod you mention ( it's was a long time ago when i switch from Growlf to HGEC especially because i saw a " Spriggan like Human ..." ...with Moving Breast - and not the " actual" BBB system , ( and my boyfriend wanted that effect , and it's also from an Oldwolf58's mod ) and i remember there most a " lot off options" for the feet with this one ... I saw in the Set Body reloaded ( v1.20) other HGEC Feet " GM " and these one are not " compatible" with my use. In fact i wanted to know " what was going wrong " in my installation , so there is nothing wrong but i need to investigate some points , so thank you for the link ... and for your GBEC body . Cheers. PS : ok , i see , most of my used mods are based on the Exnem Feet ( i'm talking about the position ) and the meshes from this Coronerra's link are not based on the Exnem lower body anymore ... i don't know why , because HGEC used to be " Exnem Feet " compatible , and i saw that most of the mods use that Exnem based Feet ... so , i think that's there is a mystake here ( that's just my opinion of course ...) done by Coronerra, they don't fit an Exnem model. Unfortunatly the link to the WanderDyad file doesn't work anymore ( or may be it's a Nexus issue ... there is one there from some weeks ...) . Anyway , big thanks , now i know there is a " problem " with this link / mod ! I think that the "right" body is this one ( and most the of mods use this base) http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/15802
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