Docuwal Posted February 14, 2012 Posted February 14, 2012 I can play it only in the lower settings, if i change to normal or high the game crashes time after time. I have: Intel Pentium Dual CPU 2.20ghz 4096MB RAM Nvidia GForce GT240 Directx11 Aren't this requisites enough to run Skyrim in high settings? Im good at finding mods, but this type of things make me crazy xD Thank you
Slammer64 Posted February 14, 2012 Posted February 14, 2012 What video drivers are you running, as well as operating system, we can't help you with information: Skyrim Minimum System Requirements * OS: 7/Vista/XP PC (32 or 64 bit) * CPU: Dual Core 2.0GHz or equivalent processor * RAM: 2 GB * HDD: 6 GB * Graphics: 512 MB card * Sound Card: DirectX 9 Compatible * DirectX: Version 9.0c * Internet for Steam activation Recommended System Requirements * OS: Windows 7/Vista/XP (32 or 64 bit) * CPU: Quad-core Intel or AMD CPU * RAM: 4 GB * HDD: 6 GB free disk space * Graphics: 1 GB Graphics Memory * Sound Card: DirectX 9 Compatible * DirectX: Version 9.0c * Internet for Steam activation Supported Graphics Cards: Minimum – nVidia GeForce 8800 / ATI Radeon HD 3850 Recommended -Nvidia GeForce GTX 260 or higher; ATI Radeon 4890 or higher
oblivionwithdongs Posted February 14, 2012 Posted February 14, 2012 "Recommended -Nvidia GeForce GTX 260 or higher; ATI Radeon 4890 or higher" That's probably it, i'm running it on a 4890 and i'm fine, but maybe anything older/less powerful has trouble. Also try disabling FXAA then running in high, also since you have an nvidia you should disable the ingame anisotropic filtering and set it through your drivers instead.
Docuwal Posted February 14, 2012 Author Posted February 14, 2012 What video drivers are you running' date=' as well as operating system, we can't help you with information: [/quote'] True, I have Directx11 and Windows 7 32 bits. Also since you have an nvidia you should disable the ingame anisotropic filtering and set it through your drivers instead. How can i do that?
sora3 Posted February 14, 2012 Posted February 14, 2012 A Geforce GT240 is not enough realistically to run Skyrim. The GT240 is definitely a lot slower than the Geforce 8800 despite it being a generation higher than it. And the game will definitely default to Low given the current specs to it. You'd need to upgrade to something akin to a Geforce GTX550 or AMD Radeon HD 6770 before you can actually do anything in Skyrim.
Siouliusn Posted February 14, 2012 Posted February 14, 2012 A good 5770 will be fine, I'm using a vapor-X version @1080p and it works without lagging (but better is better)
FastestDogInTheDistrict Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 A good 5770 will be fine' date=' I'm using a vapor-X version @1080p and it works without lagging (but better is better) [/quote'] Yup! I have an i5 3.3GHz processor coupled with an ATi Radeon Powercolour HD5670 1G, and it's happy enough on "High" settings. It will also run on "Ultra", and be playable, but "High" is more fluid. No idea what "p" it's running at (480p? 720p? No clue...), but it's a happy little workhorse. My little laptop has an i7 with an HD6770M 2G, and the difference is very noticeable! I still run it in "High", and it's smooth & quick everywhere you go!
Surenas Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 Already on a 7900GT0 you'll get 'medium' by the analysis, so the GT240 is hardly the problem, you can even set it to 'ultra' without CTDs, though lag is included, logically. The Dual CPU 2.20ghz is okay in 'high' for, say, 15-35 fps on average. Problems are caused e.g. by background programs, antivir guards and an instable game.
Ghost13 Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 only thing you have is a processor problem if u dont want to run it at high resolutions more than 720p just change the processor to i7 or i5 and add a extra 2-4gb ram if you are using 64 bit windows instead of the graphic card , u should run it at 25-30 fps at high settings , gt 240 is good enough for playing at normal resoulutions with a playable fps for high settings ...and also i just have a 5670 hd but with i7 2600k and 6gb ram , i can run it with almost all 4096 resolutions hd mods out there with 30-40fps at 720p everything at ultra settings except the shadows which is at medium ...below is a video to show that gt 240 should have no problem running at 720p when combined with a i5 or i7 and 4gb+ram... [video=youtube]
Slammer64 Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 I'm running Win 7 Pro 64bit with 16 gigs ram with an i5 2500K and a ATI 6950, I make sure to either disable all background programs and/or set my antivirus to ignore the Games directory I install all my games too, Steam or not. I also set DEP to ignore any component of Oblivion/Fallout NV/Skyrim, eg. OBSE/NVSE/SKSE and the associated loaders. You might try those too if you're having problems with crashing. My runs flawlessly.
ZaZ Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 A Geforce GT240 is not enough realistically to run Skyrim. The GT240 is definitely a lot slower than the Geforce 8800 despite it being a generation higher than it. And the game will definitely default to Low given the current specs to it. You'd need to upgrade to something akin to a Geforce GTX550 or AMD Radeon HD 6770 before you can actually do anything in Skyrim. Wrong , Im on a Geforce M GT240 DDR3 It runs fine And the almost the same specs he has. Cheers
Slammer64 Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 It will depend a lot on drivers, does he have the latest nVidia drivers that support Skyrim, and background programs running (torrents running during Skyrim gaming a definite NO-NO); same with audio drivers, lot of crashes on Bethesda games come from audio related problems. Defragging his disk will help. But without knowing more, there's little I can help with, sorry.
Ryanhabs Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 kyrim not only deals a bit of a hit to your GPU but your cpu as well. Just 2 important things to note... 1) minimum required CPU to run skyrim: Dual core 2.0Ghz your CPU: dual core 2.2Ghz 2) minimum GPU required for skyrim: GTX 260 Your GPU: GTX 240 Theres your answer. In the 2 main things to be concerned about when running any game you barely get by the first and quite lacking in the 2nd. Its a shame we dont have a market place forum here at LL. I'm in the process of tearing down my spare parts system to reuse the case for the new i5 2550K build I'm doing next week. I have a whole core 2 extreme set up and a GTX 560 sc I need to get rid of. Quick edit: Also by default the game will automatically select the best settings to get you as close to 50 to 60 fps all the time. while you can probably up this by manually selecting the detail settings I would first listen to Slammer's suggestions and basically run minimum programs and such in the background when playing Skyrim on your system as it will free up resources for the game to utilize when it needs to. also depending on your motherboard, power supply and tech knowledge you could try to squeeze a few more horses from your cpu and gpu by doing a slight overclock but if you have never done such things before I really would cross it off your list. Edit of my edit: I'm assuming your on a socket 775 or earlier as you described your processor as a "pentium dual core"... this would sort of cross off just upgrading the processor as someone had suggested and you would then be buying at a minimum cpu, motherboard, and new ram. If you are indeed on a socket 775 or earlier you need to have your OS and thats about all running when playing skyrim with your specs and settings set to anything but low or normal. Also like a lot of people have said, drop your resolution and try not to use any of the player made High Resolution textures as not all of them but a lot of them are just the same textures run through some random program to blow them up to 4069 x 4069 and thats not necessary at all.
FastestDogInTheDistrict Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 Here's a question... Not to derail the thread, but as a side-issue that I've been curious about - can you (simply, reliably) run two graphics cards simultaneously? For example, 2 x ATi HD5670's? How exactly, and what does this do??
Ryanhabs Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 Here's a question... Not to derail the thread' date=' but as a side-issue that I've been curious about - can you (simply, reliably) run two graphics cards simultaneously? For example, 2 x ATi HD5670's? How exactly, and what does this do?? [/quote'] I'm going to answer this 2 fold as I'm pretty sure I think I know what your asking but I have seen another meaning to this question in the past. Answer 1) Yes you can run 2 video cards at the same time. They have to be the same exact gpu's (preferably the exact same make and model of card) and this is what is known as SLi or crossfire. example of 2 card SLi To be completely honest you can run 4 separate cards in SLi (Nvidia's multi card platform) which is called quad-SLi. I also know you can run what is known as quad-fire but I don't know for sure if that is just for 2 dual gpu cards or if you can have 4 single gpu cards like the SLi set ups. Crossfire BTW is AMD's (ATi's) multi gpu set up name. Example of Quad-SLi As I said above you need 2 of the exact same gpu's with the same core clock, memory clock, and shader clocks and connect them via the SLi bridge or Crossfire link that would have been included with your motherboard if it supports such features. Answer 2) If you were meaning running a video card for say playing skyrim and a second running something completely different on a separate monitor then no not really... the drivers would be a wreck and you most likely would have more of a headache than it would be worth.
Slammer64 Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 Oh, one last thing that might help, if you're running win 7 for God's sake turn off Aero, a bigger killer of games I haven't yet run across.
sora3 Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 A Geforce GT240 is not enough realistically to run Skyrim. The GT240 is definitely a lot slower than the Geforce 8800 despite it being a generation higher than it. And the game will definitely default to Low given the current specs to it. You'd need to upgrade to something akin to a Geforce GTX550 or AMD Radeon HD 6770 before you can actually do anything in Skyrim. Wrong ' date=' Im on a Geforce M GT240 DDR3 It runs fine And the almost the same specs he has. Cheers [/quote'] That may be true. However, you're running it on a laptop screen whose screen resolution is much smaller than desktop so that wouldn't account for much. Plus, the mobile version of the 240 is actually more par with the 9600 series.
philipcollin Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 ive found that cpu doesnt have much of an impact on game speed at all. Im running skyrim on my 3ghz dual core but ive got a GTX 570 and i can run it on very high no probs. So im thinking the graphics card has the biggest impact on how well you can run the game
velinejoseph Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 ive found that cpu doesnt have much of an impact on game speed at all. Im running skyrim on my 3ghz dual core but ive got a GTX 570 and i can run it on very high no probs. So im thinking the graphics card has the biggest impact on how well you can run the game hmm really? since I changed my cpu to quad, it really affect my performance you know. i don't even replaced my old gts 250 yet. there's one thing I'd like to mention about his spec tough. 32 bits supposed to only allow 3.5 gigs of ram. I have no idea what else running when you play skyrim, it's gonna limit your space http://chris.pirillo.com/32-bit-windows-and-4gb-of-ram/ there are fixes to allow 32bits to store more than 3gb of ram, but I don't trust that kind of fixes.
Ryanhabs Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 ive found that cpu doesnt have much of an impact on game speed at all. Im running skyrim on my 3ghz dual core but ive got a GTX 570 and i can run it on very high no probs. So im thinking the graphics card has the biggest impact on how well you can run the game hmm really? since I changed my cpu to quad' date=' it really affect my performance you know. i don't even replaced my old gts 250 yet. there's one thing I'd like to mention about his spec tough. 32 bits supposed to only allow 3.5 gigs of ram. I have no idea what else running when you play skyrim, it's gonna limit your space http://chris.pirillo.com/32-bit-windows-and-4gb-of-ram/ there are fixes to allow 32bits to store more than 3gb of ram, but I don't trust that kind of fixes. [/quote'] The issue with the 32 bit OS only using 3.25GB of system ram is in its architecture and any "fix" for this could seriously damage your OS install and possibly corrupt your HDD. It wise not to trust those type of "fixes". Skyrim and many of the newer games utilize the cpu just as much as the gpu, this is proven in many articles and if you have a LCD system panel you can see it for yourself. If your CPU played not much of a part of running the game it would essentially run slightly above idle speeds when running the game and your GPU would be handling all of the load. on a quad core extreme @ 4.2Ghz 8 GB of ram and a gtx 580, all game settings maxed, an aggressive ENB profile and various hi res texture mods I am still rock solid at 55 to 60 FPS but the CPU load shows more than 50% on all cores the whole time the game is running. On either my I-5 or the 2 I-7 systems the cpu load is handled much easier due to more lanes and faster bus speeds so I see a more spikey pattern but sitting idle in the game and CPU usage shows about a 33% on the I-5 and about a 27 to 30% on the I-7's. Cpu does in fact make quite a difference as well as the FSB, your total available memory, all the various game settings and your resolution settings just as much as your GPU. (just thought I would explain that a bit as far as my personal tests have shown.)
aliftw Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 Please, don't suggest CPU upgrade as skyrim can run on ultra with even single core...Go for new GPU. If you want something that will last few years, wait for HD7xxx or KEPLER. Otherwise 6770 is best choice in perf/price ratio and you can run skyrim on ultra with it(720p, 1080p non modded). Also try OC your cpu, it will definately give you few fps. A good start would be @2.8GHz but you will need better cooling than stock. Don't even consider cpu upgrade, today games can't fully utilize quads+. Wait for new consoles for cpu upgrade. 6770 with 45w cpu and bunch of HDDs takes about 250w @99% load so there won't be problem with PSU. Source: http://benchmark3d.com/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-february-2012-benchmark/3
Ryanhabs Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 Your graphs show exactly what I was explaining, Thanks for those. This one in particular Skyrim 1.0 Unoptimized Skyrim 1.4.21.0.4 Unoptimized Skyrim 1.4.21.0.4 Optimized 1 Core 100% 100% 96% 1 Core OC 100% 100% 96% 2 Cores 95% 74% 69% 2 Cores OC 83% 72% 67% 3 Cores 60% 56% 50% 3 Cores OC 48% 50% 46% 4 Cores 50% 42% 36% 4 Cores OC 42% 39% 38% Basically @ stock speeds on a dual core rated to 2.2Ghz Skyrim is using between 69 to 95% of your processor's resources so anything running in the background while running the game will impact performance. If your already planning upgrades I would hold off for Ivybridge or wait and see if the kinks are worked out of the 2 wave of bulldozer cpu's from AMD. Investing in a full system upgrade now will get you the an up-to-date system for about 2 or 3 more months but you will already be a step behind come April or May. You can get yourself a decent deal on a video card atm by going with the 6XXX series from AMD or the GTX 5 series from nvidia seeing that Nvidia will bring out their Kepler gpu's soon a lot of people are trying to unload their current extra 5 series cards. Personally I'll wait a bit until the classified versions are offered and proven on bench tests by extreme modders before swapping over.
Docuwal Posted February 15, 2012 Author Posted February 15, 2012 Ok, thank you sooo much to all. I think i will stay at Low settings, btw i have some modders HQ retextures like ``Better Ice´´ or mods like that. PS: I forgot to say that in the first days of playing Skyrim (you know, November and December) i was playing on High/Ultra settings and it was perfect. No lag, no crashes, etc. Maybe the retextures of the modder comunnity are to much for my pc? I reffer to this type of mods: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=2146
Ryanhabs Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=2146 <--- probably a big reason you are noticing such a hit in performance. The other would be everything Slammer suggested. I would like to think that with a mild OC on that cpu and maybe even a little bit to the GPU you could run your HD mods @ medium settings and not have any stagger and what not.
FastestDogInTheDistrict Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Maybe the retextures of the modder comunnity are to much for my pc? I reffer to this type of mods: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=2146 Oh yeh. Big HD mods can really tax your machine. When you eventually get this sorted to your satisfaction' date=' you may like to consider the "LITE" version of this texture pack: "Skyrim HD - 2K Textures" ALSO: I found that Vergis' "Skyrim Performance PLUS" is a great addition. I use these on both of my Infernal Machines, and both seem very happy with it.
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