Content Consumer Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 I've got a problem. It happens only very very rarely (only twice so far that I've noticed, since I began using sexlab mods) and does not break the game at all (afaik). What happens is, everything that physics can apply to starts moving in a single direction. So, for example, if you drop a soul gem, a bottle of skooma, etc. it starts moving on its own, very slowly. If it hits something that can't move on its own (i.e. walls, tables, etc) it stops... because it hit the object. I can't remember where, when, or what might have caused it the first time it happened to me... it is, as I said, not a game breaking problem, just odd, so I didn't really make note of it. I just thought it was Skyrim being Skyrim. But today it happened again. I had just installed Skooma Whore and was earning skooma at mixwater mill, when suddenly everything in the room that could move (including both NPCs) started drifting slowly toward the wall. When things reached the wall, they stopped. As twig moved across the floor, she moved up onto the bed, back down onto the floor, up onto the other bed, etc. Same for lilly. Some of the alcohol ended up under the bed. A few of the chicken breasts ended up flush against one of the chairs. The PC does not move, nor does anyone sitting on a chair... for example, Twig didn't start moving until she got up from a bench. The game suffered a CTD after a few minutes, but I don't necessarily think it was this that caused the CTD - I'd been playing for several hours, and that does tend to build up errors in the background... I can't remember if it crashed the first time or not. My question is... why is this happening? Which mod is causing this? Or is no sexlab mod causing this at all? Is this just Skyrim being Skyrim, or is it something deeper, something more... insidious? Is it... The Evil? But seriously, has this happened to anyone else?
LibertyPrime Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 Do you use "Animations"? http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/51554 Because I do, and I have almost the exact same bug. Whenever my character starts to eat or drink something and there are clutter items nearby, they start to move to one side slowly until eventually they either hit the wall or fall into the world.
Content Consumer Posted September 17, 2014 Author Posted September 17, 2014 No, I don't use that mod... but that's a clue, right there. There must be something going on when certain animations happen. Maybe it's a problem with a specific animation. Maybe it's a problem when two animations are trying to happen at the same time (is that possible?). Maybe it's something up with FNIS. Doesn't look like it, because that mod apparently doesn't even require FNIS. Hmm...
testsubject013 Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 happens to me as well it has to be a sexlab mod because it didn't start happening until i installed few more sexlab mods. still trying to figure out which one
LibertyPrime Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 Gentlemen, I think this calls for an investigation. Post those load orders. Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.6] 03 Dawnguard.esm 04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.6] 05 HearthFires.esm 06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.6] 07 Dragonborn.esm 08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.6] 09 SharedSeranaDialogue.esm 0A RaceCompatibility.esm [Version 1.60a] 0B ApachiiHair.esm 0C ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 0D SexLab.esm [Version 1.59] 0E Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.2] 0F PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm 10 SexLabAroused.esm 11 SexLab Attraction.esm 12 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 13 XFLMain.esm 14 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 15 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 16 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 17 hdtHighHeel.esm 18 NusbieVoices.esp 19 jackgatowel.esp 1A R18pn - lingerie Set.esp 1B Chain Top.esp 1C DarkStandalone.esp 1D Northgirl.esp 1E nightshade_armor_UNPB.esp 1F TavernClothes-MTM.esp 20 SkyUI.esp 21 Convenient Horses.esp 22 CharacterMakingExtender.esp 23 Footprints.esp 24 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp ++ Armor Weight Adjustment.esp 25 GagSFX.esp 26 Clanking Armor.esp 27 Items Weight Adjustment.esp 28 getSnowy.esp 29 Apropos.esp 2A SexLab Submit.esp 2B SexLab Submit Serana.esp 2C Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 2D YourMarketStall.esp 2E MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp 2F Animations.esp 30 Character Creation Overhaul.esp 31 CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp 32 CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp 33 CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp 34 TakeNotes.esp 35 SexLab Approach.esp 36 ReadingTakesTime.esp 37 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 38 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 39 Footprints - Ash.esp ++ FSS-Slight pause between lines.esp 3A HARODATH_ImmersiveSoulgems.esp 3B ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp 3C Headtracking.esp 3D SplashofRain.esp 3E Devious Deviants.esp 3F LeatherBackpack-50.esp 40 LeatherBackpackBrown-50.esp 41 LeatherBackpackDarkBrown-50.esp 42 LoversVictim.esp 43 LeatherBackpackBlack-50.esp 44 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-5.esp 45 NPCsUseAmmoAllBows.esp 46 No Empty Tag on Containers.esp 47 Pickaxe & Woodcutter Axe Adjustment.esp 48 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 49 RND_USKP-Patch.esp 4A RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp 4B RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp 4C SGEyebrows.esp 4D EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 4E SKSE Hotkeys.esp 4F WetandCold.esp 50 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 51 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp 52 SWT1.2.esp 53 SexLab Enchantress.esp [Version 2.3] 54 SexLab Warmbodies.esp 55 SexLabArousedAnimations.esp 56 SexLabMatchMaker.esp [Version 5] 57 XFLDialogue.esp 58 SkyrimBound.esp 59 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 5A Smoking Torches.esp 5B SwimmingEnemies.esp 5C USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp 5D VioLens.esp 5E Weapon Weight Adjustment.esp 5F Duel - Combat Realism.esp 60 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 61 ADS.esp 62 SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp 63 LoversHook.esp 64 Immersive Weapons.esp 65 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 66 BFT Ships and Carriages.esp 67 Marriable Serana.esp [Version 1.6.2] 68 PuppetMaster.esp 69 Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 2.0.3] 6A Immersive Patrols II.esp 6B CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp 6C Chesko_Frostfall.esp 6D RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 6E RND_AnimalLoot.esp 6F Hunterborn.esp 70 Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp 71 Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp 72 LoversComfort.esp 73 FNISspells.esp ++ Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp 74 IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp 75 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp 76 SexLabDangerousNights.esp 77 MoreNastyCritters.esp 78 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 79 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 7A SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 7B HentaiCreatures.esp 7C IMAGINATOR - MCMenu.esp 7D Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 7E Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.7] 7F When Vampires Attack.esp [Version 2.0.3] 80 XFLPlugins.esp 81 xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 82 YCrimeOverhaul.esp 83 SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp 84 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp 85 Devious Cidhna.esp 86 DeviouslyHelpless.esp 87 dovahkiinrelax.esp 88 spelleraser.esp 89 iHUD.esp 8A vAutosaveManager.esp 8B Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.5.2] 8C Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Content Consumer Posted September 17, 2014 Author Posted September 17, 2014 CoCo reporting for duty, sir! Obviously, we can ignore the mods with "Jase's" in front because they're little mods I made for myself. Active Mod Files: • 00 Skyrim.esm • 01 Update.esm • 02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.5a] • 03 Dawnguard.esm • 04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.5] • 05 HearthFires.esm • 06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.5] • 07 Dragonborn.esm • 08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.5] • 09 SexLab.esm [Version 1.59] • 0A AzarHair.esm • 0B Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp [Version 2.0] • 0C Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.2] • 0D SexLabAroused.esm • 0E hdtHighHeel.esm • 0F ZaZAnimationPack.esm • 10 daymoyl.esm • 11 Devious Devices - Integration.esm • 12 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm • 13 HighResTexturePack01.esp • 14 HighResTexturePack02.esp • 15 HighResTexturePack03.esp • 16 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp [Version 1.1.7] • 17 ANewLookForSerana.esp • 18 MoreNastyCritters.esp • 19 DibellanDefender.esp • ++ ADEC_DragonbornArmors.esp • 1A dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp • 1B soulgem-oven.esp • 1C BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp • 1D Better Runes - Greater Range and Multiple Cast.esp • 1E SSv2.esp • 1F SWT1.2.esp • 20 BetterDestructionPerksC.esp • 21 SlaveTats.esp • 22 SkyrimBound.esp • ++ SexLabNudesuitVariants.esp • 23 titkit.esp • 24 Speed Revised.esp • 25 FasterArrows75.esp • 26 LoversVictim.esp • ++ FullBootForKKSA.esp • 27 Devious Loading Screens.esp [Version 2.7] • 28 Jase's Godly Amulet.esp • 29 CoCo_Devious Manual.esp • 2A Apropos.esp • 2B Enchanting Freedom.esp • 2C OliviaWilde.esp • 2D Faster Bolts 75%.esp • 2E No Killmoves, No Killcams, No Killbites.esp • 2F FSP - Dawnguard Edition.esp • 30 HousecarlWhiterun.esp • 31 CelticMusic.esp • 32 Celtic Music and FSP No Vanilla Patch.esp • 33 dcpack1.esp • 34 RaceMenu.esp • 35 DualFlurrytoFlurry.esp • 36 NoLockpicking - Novice.esp • 37 SexLab_Paycrime.esp • 38 RaceMenuPlugin.esp • 39 SaturationBoost.esp • 3A SexLabStatsManipulator.esp • 3B SexLab Enchantress.esp [Version 2.3] • 3C SexLabGuild.esp [Version 9] • 3D SexLabNudeCreatures.esp • 3E SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp • 3F SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp • 40 Brawl Bugs CE.esp • 41 PSMHFOverhaul.esp • 42 HousecarlSolitude.esp • 43 Captured Dreams.esp • 44 AsharaDimonizedDress.esp • 45 HentaiCreatures.esp • 46 animal_mansion.esp • 47 SexLab-Stories.esp • 48 BetterHjerim.esp • 49 Sacrificial Spriggan.esp • 4A Spriggan Armor 2.esp • 4B SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp • 4C zdd.esp • 4D HorrifiedFemalePrisons.esp • 4E DeviouslyHelpless.esp • 4F Alteration and Restoration redux.esp • 50 CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp • 51 RestorationIdleFix.esp • 52 FSP - Unique Towns & Locations.esp • 53 House Markers.esp • 54 Osare Underwear.esp • 55 R18Pn - Inner Wear Set.esp • 56 Pirsing.esp • 57 Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp • 58 SexyVest.esp • 59 SkyUI.esp • 5A Wind Destruction.esp • 5B bound weapons redux.esp • 5C BesEss.esp • 5D SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp • 5E SexLabDefeat.esp • 5F Devious Cidhna.esp • 60 SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp • 61 DragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers.esp • 62 itsatrap!.esp • 63 Devious Deviants.esp • 64 daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp • 65 DragonbornDockMarkers.esp • 66 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp • 67 Dead Thrall on Anything level 100.esp • 68 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp • 69 mslDeviousCaptures.esp • 6A TheEyesOfBeauty.esp [Version 9] • 6B Jase's Skills x4.esp • 6C tox Destruction Scaling Flames Frostbite Sparks.esp • 6D Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.5.1a] • 6E Bashed Patch, 0.esp Of course, if it turns out this is something like sexlab.esm's problem, it isn't going to do us much good.
WaxenFigure Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 For the record, this happened on rare occasions with my SexAddicts mod and I have even seen it using the ancient ASX mod. It is nothing new, load orders and/or which mods you use are not going to be the problem. I suspect it is a bug in the havok engine since it seems that objects which havok can apply to are the things that are sent drifting.
Content Consumer Posted September 17, 2014 Author Posted September 17, 2014 Okay, makes sense. So what triggers the phenomenon? And why doesn't it, like, just make things jump in the air a few inches and fall back down? And why one particular direction along the horizontal axis? And it's not like gravity switches direction, because objects still fall to the floor, they just start moving when on the floor. Round objects move too, they don't roll, so gravity isn't changed direction (because if gravity was set to something like 170 degrees instead of 180, round objects would roll, not just move). It's strange. Again, not game breaking, and a quick exit-and-reload fixes it, but it's eating at my brain.
psikochik Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 I noticed this with Estrus Chaurus, during an inn infestation. As more eggs were produced the coefficient of friction dropped to zero. Since the inn wasn't exactly level, everything started sliding to one side, eventually falling down into Skyrim space, which is looped, so eventually a pile of eggs was falling back into the inn. This lead me to suspect it has to do with the number of objects in an area, and keeping up with them.
Content Consumer Posted September 18, 2014 Author Posted September 18, 2014 Hmm... there are a lot of miscellaneous things just lying around in the worker's hut. But there are places in the game with a lot MORE physics-enabled things moving around. One of my favorite activities is using Unrelenting Force on bookshelves, and in a room with a lot of bookshelves this can put a whole shitload of stuff flying into the air.
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