help - Which version of C++ do I install ?_?

[ntblood]

 Also I get a C++ runtime error so I'd like to re-install 32 and 64 bit versions of Visual C++ but what year's version should I get. The most recent looks to be 2013 version but I see some people saying to install 2010. One person said you need both the 2010 and the 2013 versions installed. Should I have 32 and 64bit  (or 86) installed. Another person was saying you only need the 64bit version. My OS is 64 bit I believe, win8 pro.

 One experienced modder said,"Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package (x86). No 2008, 2013 or x64." or 32?  And then I read an even more experienced modder say: "Check your Miscrosoft Visual C++ 2010 and 2013 versions. If you don't have them install them."    Do I need both 2010 & 2013 and which bit versions. I can't figure it out on the forums and read different answers. Here is the 2013 version of C++ http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=40784

I see that I had labeled the C++ version I have installed now as 2012 64 and 32 bit both installed.

It sounds like SOS being before SexLabs framework in the LO can help C++ error but I want to make sure I have the most recent and correct version(s) of C++ installed.

Thank you!

[Vivi]

Thats actually a really good question, I am interested in this as well. According to my Programs and Features I currently have 10 different version installed, I believe Steam games keep installing them upon first launch. This is the one and only crash I have with Skyrim still, if it wasn't for this I'd have a 99.99% stable game (I dare not to say 100).

[ntblood]

Wow, I didn't think to look there. I have a ton (15) as well and get the C++ error in game.  

 What to do?

 

[Slammer64]

What I do is install all the latest packages for C++, i.e: 2005,2008,2010,2012, and 2013; both the x86 and x86-64 version as I run a 64 bit version of Windows. If you are running only 32 bit, you'd need to only install the 32 bit libraries. There's a more advanced technique when you've installed them using NGEN to recompile the dll and ocx's to use the libraries, but we can go into that later.

[ntblood]

Should I leave all 15 installations of C++ (you can see there in my screenshot) installed? Or start uninstalling all of them and start over?

The previous poster said they though Steam was installing extra versions. Do I have to worry about Steam installing a bunch of un-needed versions of C++.

 Thank you!

[ntblood]

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[ousnius]

You shouldn't ever uninstall Visual C++ redistributables. They're called that and installed by programs automatically for a reason.

 

Different programs need different versions of Visual C++ libraries, so whatever Steam installs is needed for that game/program. That causes your computer to have 15 different versions installed, which is fine.

 

C++ runtime errors don't necessarily mean you're missing the correct Visual C++ installation, it can be literally ANY kind of code error (mostly in SKSE DLL plugins).

 

I don't use SOS though, so I don't have any experience with its bugs.

[ntblood]

Ok, thank you. One last question. I have windows 8 pro 64 bit. Is there a particular version of C++ that I should be sure to have. You can see what I have installed in the screenshot above.

[ousnius]

You should have all you need for Skyrim and plugins. The issue must lie somewhere else, like an incompatibility of two SKSE plugins.

[ntblood]

Dang, I think it's since, but not necessarily because, I installed FNIS creature animation my game is having some trouble. I can't start a new game at all without it crashing everytime before even loading into gameplay. And my save game usually ctd's about 5-10 minutes into game-play. If not then probably when sex starts.

I'm attaching my LO and the most recent papyrus from starting a new game. That always ctd's on me where I can get into my saved game which seems strange to me.

Anytime I start a new game now it says SkyRe has been re-installed and something about a respec potion. Makes me think about re-installing Sky-Re but I think that will involve it's plug-in dependencies so only want to do if it's needed.

LOOT says I'm fine. It had been running pretty well recently.Active Mod Files:

 

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.6]
03  Dawnguard.esm
04  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.6]
05  HearthFires.esm
06  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.6]
07  Dragonborn.esm
08  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.6]
09  Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm
0A  Falskaar.esm
0B  Wyrmstooth.esp  [Version 1.10]
0C  ApachiiHairFemales.esm
0D  BBLuxurySuite.esm
0E  ApachiiHair.esm
0F  JSwords.esm  [Version 1.4]
10  ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
11  ZaZAnimationPack.esm
12  ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
13  hdtHighHeel.esm
14  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
15  RSkyrimChildren.esm
16  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.59]
17  SexLabAroused.esm
18  Devious Devices - Assets.esm  [Version 2.8.2]
19  Devious Devices - Integration.esm
1A  Inn Girls Resources.esm
1B  Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
1C  SexLab Attraction.esm
1D  UndergroundBathhouse.esm
1E  daymoyl.esm
1F  HighResTexturePack01.esp
20  HighResTexturePack02.esp
21  HighResTexturePack03.esp
22  Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.8]
23  AK_RM_Pubic_Styles.esp
24  ADEC_SuccubusArmor.esp
25  Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp
26  SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp  [Version 1.2.]
27  Better Dynamic Snow.esp
28  SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
29  SOS Equipable Schlong.esp
2A  iHUD.esp
2B  SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
2C  BardSoundsMalukah.esp
2D  Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
2E  zzLSARAddon.esp
2F  Animated Dragon Wings.esp
30  Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
31  ERSO 03.4 - Super Mighty Dragonborn Dragons.esp
32  Command Dragon.esp
33  Convenient Horses.esp
34  BlacktalonArmorV11UNP.esp
35  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
36  DD_restrained.esp
37  FNISSexyMove.esp
38  Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
39  DPnTrielekMix.esp
3A  NoNakedComments.esp
3B  CannabisUpdate.esp
3C  SexLabDefeat.esp
3D  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
3E  ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
3F  ERSO 03.5 - New Dragon Loots.esp
40  ERSO 04 - Mighty Odahviing.esp
41  ETaC - Complete.esp
42  ClimatesOT partial Merge.esp
43  ELFX - Exteriors.esp
44  ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
45  CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
46  KKFur.esp
47  ETaCbabes.esp
48  Hearfire Girls Sleep UHP.esp
49  Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
4A  HugMe.esp
4B  MashupUNP.esp
4C  Northgirl.esp
4D  NorthGirl_SkyRe Patch.esp
4E  Pureweather.esp
4F  Private Needs Discreet.esp  [Version 1.5.4]
50  RaceMenu.esp
51  RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp
52  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
53  SexCrop.esp
54  SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
55  SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
56  SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
57  SexLab Approach.esp
58  SkyUI.esp
59  Customizable Camera.esp
5A  LessIntrusiveHUD.esp
5B  SOSRaceMenu.esp
5C  UndergroundBathhouse_partialMerge.esp
5D  Witch Of The Wild.esp
5E  Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
5F  SkyRe_Main.esp
60  Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
61  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
62  dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
63  ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
64  AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
65  AstralMerchantAndChest.esp
66  altvamplord.esp
67  ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
68  3DNPC.esp  [Version 3.06]
69  Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp
6A  dwemerhome.esp
6B  SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
6C  SMIM(3) +Snow+Floral.esp
6D  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.5.2a]
6E  High Level Enemies_merged.esp
6F  ApachiiHairStylesCOMBINED.esp
70  Rebirth Monster.esp
71  BeautifulelvesDLC.esp
72  Lore Weapon Expansion.esp  [Version 1.3]
73  dD-Dawnguard-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
74  Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp  [Version v1]
75  BBLuxurySuiteClassier.esp
76  Better Towns Textures.esp
77  BTT - Sexy Cities.esp
78  BTT - Snow + Better Dynamic Snow.esp
79  Helgen Reborn.esp  [Version 105.3]
7A  BetterCitiesWhiterun.esp
7B  FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
7C  SolitudeCapitalEdition.esp
7D  Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp
7E  OBIS.esp
7F  Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp
80  OBISDB.esp
81  Civil War Overhaul.esp
82  Birdsofskyrim.esp
83  Captured Dreams.esp
84  CWIELnFXPatch.esp
85  ESFCompanions.esp  [Version 0.3.6]
86  BetterQuestObjectives.esp
87  SSv2.esp
88  dlcbabes.esp
89  Serana.esp
8A  ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI.esp
8B  UltimateCombat.esp
8C  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6.5.2a]
8D  SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
8E  WATER_merged.esp
8F  DFB - Random Encounters.esp  [Version 1.2]
90  immersive wenches.esp
91  throneroom.esp
92  Better Vampires.esp
93  Vampire Wings.esp
94  ISCompendium SkyRe Patch.esp
95  SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
96  Unique Uniques.esp  [Version 1.7]
97  Unique Unique's_Skyre Patch.esp
98  WetandCold.esp
99  WetandCold - Holidays.esp
9A  BloodyFacials.esp
9B  Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
9C  aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
9D  Solitude A City Of Trade.esp
9E  BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp
9F  SexLab Solutions.esp
A0  Inconsequential NPCs.esp
A1  BeautifulVampires.esp
A2  QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp
A3  Cloaks.esp
A4  ERSO 07 - Super Mighty Dragon Priests.esp
A5  DD - FtM - OBIS patch.esp
A6  DD FtM - Cloaks patch.esp
A7  Drink Eat Sleep.esp
A8  SexLab-Stories.esp
A9  ERSO 09 - Vendor Trainer Quest-giver protected USKP.esp
AA  RSChildren - Complete.esp
AB  RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp
AC  DawnofRiften.esp
AD  SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp
AE  DeviouslyHelpless.esp
AF  ELFX_2_0_BFU_Patch.esp
B0  chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp
B1  HeljarchenFarm.esp
B2  Better Followers - SP.esp
B3  CWINPCImprovements.esp
B4  Immersive Patrols II.esp
B5  CinematicFireFX.esp
B6  Bijin Warmaidens.esp
B7  HousecarlBeauties.esp
B8  MIDFollowMeCloser.esp
B9  JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp  [Version 1.4]
BA  CerwidenCompanion.esp
BB  DeadlyDragons.esp
BC  ERSO 04.2 - Mighty Durnehviir.esp
BD  ERSO 03.3 - Super Mighty Dawnguard Dragons.esp
BE  ERSO 03 - Super Mighty Dragons Unleveled DD.esp
BF  DragonsDiversified.esp
C0  Dragons Diversified Dragonborn Patch.esp
C1  CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp
C2  Devious Deviants.esp
C3  HBetterBows.esp
C4  AsharaErinFollower.esp
C5  LoversComfort.esp
C6  Remodeled Armor.esp
C7  FNISspells.esp
C8  Ducks and Swans.esp
C9  zMirai.esp
CA  Falskaar SkyRe Faction Patch.esp
CB  BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp
CC  SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
CD  BBLSmusic.esp
CE  DA_Skyship.esp
CF  BBLSVisitors.esp
D0  SkyRe_Races.esp
D1  DibellasCompulsion-NudeSpell-1-1.esp
D2  RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp
D3  Predator Vision.esp
D4  SofiaFollower.esp
D5  SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
D6  AesirArmor.esp
D7  ClassicBooks.esp
D8  BBLuxurySuiteClassierDisplayRoom.esp
D9  SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp
DA  CompanionArissa.esp
DB  AV1Dragon_Lords.esp
DC  DragonCombatOverhaul.esp
DD  The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
DE  TemptressVixen.esp
DF  Aurora.esp
E0  Vampirelordroyal.esp
E1  BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp
E2  ESFAela.esp  [Version 0.4.7]
E3  WerewolfMastery.esp
E4  SumOverPath.esp
E5  daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
E6  LunariWarriors.esp
E7  JessicaAlbaDemonHunter.esp
E8  sextoys-calyps-2.esp
E9  SexLabWerewolves.esp
EA  3DNPC+QaxesWR.esp
EB  Cannabis.esp
EC  SexLabDangerousNights.esp
ED  SkyRe_Combat.esp
EE  ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
EF  ToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp  [Version 1.5]
F0  Red Sonja Armor.esp
F1  LustmordVampireArmor.esp
F2  VLW_Hybrid.esp
++  ADEC_DragonbornArmors.esp
++  FullBootForKKSA.esp
++  SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp  [Version v6.1.2]
++  KKSDrBWeightFix.esp
++  KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp
++  ERSO 06 - Wait More Time Dragon Encounter x4.0.esp
F3  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
F4  zzLSAR.esp
F5  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 2.5.1a]
F6  BetterQuestObjectives - partialMerge.esp
F7  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
F8  Pre ReProccer WAFR IA7 UU Patch.esp
F9  ReProccer.esp
FA  Post ReProccer Fixes IA7 UU Patch.esp

 

 

[ntblood]

Here is the papyrus analyzer results/summary:

I have Visual C++ 2013 x86 installed. Can I go ahead and install x64 as well or even re-install x86 as well?

Funny thing about my game is I can play my saved game somewhat at least but not a new game at all. And rape scene is a sure fire ctd anytime now.

[ntblood]

I cleaned my save with SaveCleanerTool and papyrus script scalpel but did no good. It crashes every time now in game after I run a few feet. I can't start a new game also. It might have to do with these 4 optimizers/texture mods I installed all of them recently and you saw that I linked to. Unless this is related to Visual C++

http://www.nexusmods...kyrim/mods/5695
http://www.nexusmods...kyrim/mods/6387
http://www.nexusmods...yrim/mods/12801
http://www.nexusmods...yrim/mods/43921
http://www.nexusmods...yrim/mods/42360


It's not FNIS Creature animations because I removed them (will re-install).
My game wasn't so unstable just recently. I'm going to undo the texture optimizing that Ordenador mod did unless I can make it to a house and wait for a week will help first. How about re-installing SkyRedone maybe help? I'm grasking at straws.

My game is messed up. I can't do anything, can't start a new game, can't fast travel, can't walk because all end in ctd. Though I can only on a saved game get into the game world for a bit.

[ntblood]

I'm busy uninstalling all of the optimized textures from the Ordenador mod. Uninstalling the VampireLord-Werewolf Transformation mod didn't help. (Nor did installing Visual C++ x64.)

If that doesn't help I guess I'll uninstall the bethesda texure mods. And if that doesn't either verify the cache or reinstall SkyRe. More straw grasping at that point because I will have undone everything I've added. Except now that I think of it, DD-for the masses & another DD mod (besides Captured Dreams) I installed not long ago.

[Slammer64]

At this point, I'd have to say it isn't your C++ install, rather a script from a mod that is crashing C++, you may have to do a re-install/reverify cache to see, I have a sneaking suspicion that it's SkyRe doing it to you, as you have to use the ReProccer on your various mods. Now I could be wrong, as I don't use SkyRe myself, but is still sounds like you'll have to re-install. Just a word of advice, Skyrim is NOT crash-free, I have a extremely stable set-up and I'll still crash occasionally, mostly on choosing beds or not.

[Monsto Brukes]

are you using mod organizer or soemthing else?

 

If you're useing mo, make a profile with no mods installed. if you're still getting the problem then I'd say to reinstall the game from scratch.

[ntblood]

 I just switched to MO during my re-install of Skyrim. I'm hoping I can figure it out. I seem to have a handle on it but it's warning me about some files in Overwrites which I don't know what to do about as one is SKSE folder additions from 3 mods.

 Thank you both. I'm aware ctd's are part of the territory but this is different now. Can't start a new saved game and loading a saved game works but after 20 seconds in game ctd's. I was just getting ctd's during sex scenes frequently but now the game is broken.

I updated to the new immersive Hud mod which had trouble with it's recent beta. No change in my game.

 I just tried disabling all esp's in Wrye Bash, other than Skyrim.esm and Update and it still ctd's so I doing the scorched earth approach of deleting my data folder, no the entire game folder I guess, and re-installing. Is this a good time to switch to MO or it seems the veteran modder I've talked with has never felt the need for it. I don't know what I'm doing with it compared to NMM.
 

[ntblood]

 Germanicus, was suggesting not using the Sky-Re/Reproc patches http://www.nexusmods...yrim/mods/48629 if I understood him correctly 'cause they can cause issues (?)   Unless he just meant it as a fix to my game being broken, I thought he meant long term. Do you think it's worthwhile to go back to the previous versions of the those patches as I heard somewhere else that there may just be a problem with the recent version of those patches?

[ntblood]

Under Options in MO I see "import from NMM" when I do that of course it says no mods are installed in NMM which is true and asks if I want to import the mods from NMM's archive which I did but once it's done (I did it twice) I don't see them anywhere in MO (?). 
 
 *unless that's them now in MO's download tab in the right side/plugins field of MO.

What is the NCC archive, or NCC_0_2_2 optional. I can't find an explanation anywhere. They say for MO to install with FOMOD installer windows you have to copy your NCC archive over. I think I already saw those FOMOD windows during mod installations within MO.

Seeing there is still a 255 limit on plugins I wonder how to make a bashed patch if the mods that would be bashed aren't even seen by WryeBash.

MO is warning me about some files in Overwrites which I don't know what to do about as one is SKSE folder additions from 3 mods.

Also, how can I clean dirty edits with TES5edit when I don't have those mods installed with NMM anymore and they don't display in TES5edit plugin loading screen to check or uncheck and load into the editor?