Pixie-K Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Alright, so I've always had problems with the character creation menu, thanks to hair mods choking it up and causing sometimes CTDs. Rather recently though, when I adjust the weight slider my FPS will take a deep plunge to an unplayable rate. The slowness will persist until I click on a category with less sliders. Apparently once I adjust the weight, the sliders themselves will cause FPS drop. My system specs are as follows: Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Processor: Intel Core2 Duo E6600 2.4ghz Memory: 5GB DDR2 (2.75GB usable) <---WHAT?! PLUS 4gb USB stick utilizing Windows ReadyBoost Graphics Card: AMD Radeon HD 7770 1GB
CeeTeeDee Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 i had a similar issue when using racemenu with the charactermakingextender_plugin.dll for skse, and then also using enhancedcharacteredit.esp along with charactermakingextender.esp.... this stuff isn't all cross-compatible, really is best you choose 1 showracemenu mod you like most
Pixie-K Posted July 23, 2014 Author Posted July 23, 2014 I use showracemenu alternative mod, but this issue is happening on both initial character creation on new game, AND in the alternative mod's special room. It feels as though it has something to do with the number of adjustment sliders on screen at once.
CeeTeeDee Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 like i said, i had the exact same problem when moving ece sliders in racemenu... i think it has to do with .tri files, or .ini files. or dll's... using only racemenu.esp solved it for me... but then i don't need all the extra bone scaling sliders on the custom race i'm using... hope this helps
Redflyingmonkey Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Are your femalebody_0 and _1 of the same mod ? I know it sounds stupid but I had the same issues when I accidentally put a sevenbase _0 mesh with a UNPB _1 one... It could also come from a CPU blooper, as it could have issues hotswapping between the two bodies, do you have other problems in your game apart from this ? Like dialogues starting slowly, dragons appearing after a loooong time, doors taking a while to open ...
Pixie-K Posted July 23, 2014 Author Posted July 23, 2014 @uktor hmm... I have RaceMenu.esp and RaceMenuPlugin.esp... it's been like SO long since I began modding skyrim that I've lost track of what some things are. @Redflyingmonkey my bodies are all sorted out, I use bodychange so i've done a bit of fine-tuning there. No other problems present, load screens are good, doors are fine, and dragons are their derpy selves.
Redflyingmonkey Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Haha, Bodychange, try updating it ! Are you using an elven race ? Or a custom race for that matter ? And I guess you already have the Precache Killer, so Imma not be "that guy" and tell you to get it, but I'm certain the problem lays with your CPU, your SKSE folder or your body meshes themselves, so if it persists and it makes the game absolutely unplayable for you, you may have to nuke some stuff and install it all over again Concerning the CPU shortage, it is pretty unlikely since you don't have any other noticeable issue but this one. Try and post your load order, and tell us when this problem started as well as the mods you remember that don't have ESP, like loose .dll, .xml etc ...
CeeTeeDee Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 @uktor hmm... I have RaceMenu.esp and RaceMenuPlugin.esp... it's been like SO long since I began modding skyrim that I've lost track of what some things are. so cut the derp, i mean... if you don't know what a mod is doing in your load order... and theres something wrong with your game's performance, then maybe its time to take stock of whats being loaded... i can almost garuantee that you're using some form of ECE / CME and Racemenu mixed, because thats what I used to do, until I broke my chargen settings and couldn't find my pretty toons face anymore...because of mixed esps, head nifs and tri files... and ini files with slider data... derp is derp, use one mod of a type, not many of the same type... trying doing that with monster AI and levelling and see how far you get!
Pixie-K Posted July 23, 2014 Author Posted July 23, 2014 Now that I think about it, this problem didn't happen until I upgraded from 4GB of RAM to 5GB. I removed one of my four 1GB sticks and replaced with a (known working) 2GB stick. My motherboard is good for it though, it can support up to four 2GB sticks totaling 8GB. (stfu I'm a broke bitch, I know it's not that great lol) Might just be a coincidence though, because I also upgraded my ZAZ animation pack and updated a couple sexlab mods that same day. Here's my load order, for what it's worth. (don't judge me, we're all a little weird here) Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Dawnguard.esm 03 HearthFires.esm 04 Dragonborn.esm 05 Falskaar.esm 06 RaceCompatibility.esm [Version 1.60a] 07 ApachiiHair.esm 08 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 09 SexLab.esm [Version 1.57] 0A Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.0] 0B SexLabAroused.esm 0C SPIKE.esm 0D TERAArmors.esm 0E ZaZAnimationPack.esm 0F Devious Devices - Integration.esm 10 LevelersTower.esm 11 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 12 AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp 13 BerserkerSword.esp 14 BlacktalonArmorV11UNP.esp 15 DD - Interactions.esp 16 SexLabStatsManipulator.esp 17 TS_SlickArmour.esp 18 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 19 FNISspells.esp 1A TERAArmors.esp 1B SexLabDefeat.esp 1C ImmersiveFP.esp 1D Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp 1E WATER DB.esp 1F Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 20 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 21 AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp 22 TeraArmorCollection.esp 23 FF7 Bustersword.esp 24 Gatti14Yumiko.esp 25 Northgirl.esp 26 FalskaarDawnguard.esp 27 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 28 SexLab Submit.esp 29 MoreNastyCritters.esp 2A RevampedExteriorFog.esp 2B mslDeviousCaptures.esp 2C RaceMenu.esp ++ PrisonerRagsForFemales.esp 2D RaceMenuPlugin.esp 2E SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp 2F Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 30 DawnofWindhelm.esp 31 SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp 32 DeviouslyHelpless.esp 33 DTHWerewolfUnique.esp 34 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 35 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 36 SNPrettyMannequins.esp 37 SexLabArousedAnimations.esp 38 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 39 ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp 3A Captured Dreams.esp 3B Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp 3C Cloaks.esp 3D Devious Deviants.esp 3E DawnofRiften.esp 3F buildablehouse.esp 40 immersive wenches.esp 41 Kamille.esp 42 Amame_follower.esp 43 SexLab Romance.esp 44 Inigo.esp 45 HentaiCreatures.esp 46 Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp 47 Sit Anywhere.esp 48 SkyUI.esp 49 BodyChange.esp 4A TERA Weapons.esp 4B WhiterunAlivePiano.esp 4C SexLabAnimalSex.esp 4D Darklilith.esp 4E Equipping Overhaul.esp 4F LustmordVampireArmor.esp 50 dovahkiinrelax.esp 51 SexLabAnimalSexDawn.esp 52 SplashofRain.esp 53 StormWrathLightning.esp 54 Strap.esp 55 Supreme Storms.esp 56 Fh hairs-by zzjay.esp 57 Dibella's Beauty - NPC Overhaul.esp 58 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp ++ DovahBlingJewelry.esp 59 SuccubusRaceLite.esp 5A TBSC_BodySuit_english.esp 5B The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp 5C Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.5] 5D WATER DG.esp 5E WATER.esp 5F Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.4] 60 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
blabba Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Do you have racemenu precache killers? There's 2 versions, the original is it's own standalone skse plugin and another version that Expired built and released as an optional on his Racemenu page. Make sure you've updated to the latest racemenu etc... It could also just be bad memory configurations on the SKSE or SSME stuff.
Redflyingmonkey Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 My god, you have Apachii, you twisted perverted lady ! But I don't see anything that could be your problem. I just thought about something though, when you use the showracemenu is your character naked or dressed up ? If you go ²showracemenu while your body mesh is TBBP and the outfit you wear is not, I know the game kind of goes bonkers sometimes for me. Don't worry about your RAM, if that was the issue you'd have noticed a looooot of weird stuff happen before you even opened the console command. Now I'm probably going to say something stupid, but try to put Bodychange.esp below SuccubusLite on your load order, as I assume you are using this race, this just might be the problem ? I don't even know if this would have any impact, but I know that Bodychange has some weird shit happening with other races than the human ones. Maybe it has problems pointing to the Bodychange meshes when you are using a race whose body is not in the generic meshes/character assets folder ? If this yet doesn't work, you should try to "reset" your race on the Bodychange MCM menu, if you changed your race recently.
Pixie-K Posted July 23, 2014 Author Posted July 23, 2014 @blabba No I don't have it, I'll have to give precache killer a shot, and see if that helps. Which version should I use? I'll check for racemenu updates too. @Redflyingmonkey On new game, my character is wearing the standard prisoner rags. On ShowRaceMenu, they're wearing whatever they had on, unless I strip them 1st. I also know about the race resetting, but I'll switch the load order as you suggested.
blabba Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Nevermind, I didn't read the latest RM update news. He integrated the precache killer into his RM mod by default. So you shouldn't need it anymore with the latest version of RM.
Redflyingmonkey Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 WAIIIIIT a sec ! Don't do anything else than download and install precache killer lol, I was sure you already had it ! If that doesn't solve your issue I'm willing to write with hashtags. Hurgh. EDIT : Okay, double negation, I know I suck, actually try what I talked about, I forgot about the PK on the latest Racemenus too. (You upgraded it by the way ?) IT DOESN'T MEAN I HAVE TO WRITE WITH HASHTAGS OKAY ??
Pixie-K Posted July 23, 2014 Author Posted July 23, 2014 Lmao don't worry I wasn't gonna do anything until I got the info I needed from blabba, I haven't touched a thing yet.
Pixie-K Posted July 23, 2014 Author Posted July 23, 2014 Holy @%$# racemenu 2.9.0 is out, and I've been using 1.4.6 this whole time! Yeah uhh... time for a much needed upgrade
Pixie-K Posted July 23, 2014 Author Posted July 23, 2014 Sorry for the triple post, buuuut PROBLEM(s) SOLVED! Updating RaceMenu fixed ANY and ALL framerate drops, lag etc. on the character edit screen. It also added a lot of shiny new sliders and tabs THANK YOU FOR THIS Also the suggestion to load succubuslite BEFORE bodychange fixed a whole other problem! I can now change body types when playing as Succubus race! I FREAKING LOVE YOU PEOPLE! PS: sadly I can only mark ONE best answer, but special thanks to both Blabba and Redflyingmonkey!
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