Rico87 Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 Thread's main targets : - Modders - Programmers - Animators - Artists (Textures/sound) Hi! First time posting, so allow me to say thank you to all those working hard on those mods! Note : Mature/crude content in this thread. And I do not pretend that any of the following ideas are either doable, or doable within reasonable effort. They represent nonetheless what i feel we should strive for But given i won't be the one making the effort, it's nothing but a plea. Why this thread : Some people (including me) have some kind of 'cum fetish", aka, liking to see women deal with it, enjoy it, drink it, being covered by it etc ... In terms of actions, that means oral creampie, blowbangs, bukkakes, facials, body shots, etc ... And while I might potentially appear like a perverted person, i mean, come on, we play a game where dogs fuck your toon ... don't think a cum fetish is much more worthy of external judgments But, for a reason that is beyond me, the "cum" aspect of Skyrim mods is really underwhelming (compared to many other aspects that are just insanely good/developped). This thread aims to give ideas to fix that, hopefully someone competent will take interest and "fill the hole". - Dynamic amount. Rather than having a "no cum" body replaced by a "cummed on" after having sex (which lead to a fixed amount with no ties to the amount you received, be it 1 guy or 35), have a dynamic texture that "piles on" to stupid proportions if you get fucked by many guys. Everything could/should be changeable in the MCM menu, like, time before fading, average amount of cum for a man, weight of the cum (see the dripping in my first idea), maximum amount of cum that piles on, etc ... - Dynamic appearance. That one might be the easiest : after a while, replace the previous dynamic cum, by some static cum much like we currently have, like some dried cum on the face/body depending on where the cum was in the first place (for consistency). The PC would have to "wash" (go underwater) to get rid of dried cum. - Cum attached to face. For some reason, most of the cum textures out there just cover the body, and barely touch the visage. Where are the mods that make the girl drown in cum/be covered by it? - More cum-focused animations. § Bukkake/blowbang animation (up to an infinite amount of actors, taking turns to masturbate on the kneeling receptacle, need the dynamic cum features to be interesting, otherwise it might be a bit meh, the sense of piling amount of cum is key for this to be good). § Current animations should end with more cum-acknowledging gestures. Like the girl struggling to swallow the load, the girl being so hot that she spreads the cum on her face/tits, or she spits the cum in her hands and stare at it before doing XYZ, or she touches her freshly cumming in/on pussy to then brings the hand to her mouth to taste the cum, etc ... you get the idea ... i often find the animations to be good, but to end "abruptly" without acknowledging what really happened, the guy cum, and you're suddenly up, improving that by some nasty moves would be good. § Dont know if feasible, but having the throat of the girl moving a lot after the guy cummed in her mouth, reflecting the "gulp gulp gulp" of her swalloing an insane amount. Or keep that for horse/dragon-swallowing, whatever. § A girl drinking cum from a vial/potion, like, rising the potion above her head and either letting the cum cover her face, or sticking her tongue out as the cum slowly drip from the potion, into her mouth/tongue. Then she swallows eagerly. § A girl grabing the lowerpart of her tits to bring them to her mouth while she licks her cum covered tits. - Gulping sounds/comments. Not stereotypical ones, mind you. But a girl that swallow should sound like one. Maybe sexual comments too would be cool. Along the lines of : § (Horny) "Oh yeah! Cover on my face!" § (Agressive) "Eat my cum you slut!" (Note : if you like that idea but are not sure what to record, i can write you a full list of comments depending on the animation it will be attached to). - Game mechanics around cum. Features, like being a cum slut/addict (could be integrated to other mods like the succubi one), quests and stories etc etc etc ... if a modder/programmer is interested in working on that aspect, i can write stuff too (note : i'm a game design student and a semi-pro writer, nothing amateurish here). Cheers, hope that inspired someone somewhere! Long live the cumsluts!
Ashra XIII Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 I'm all for this stuff, but I think the greatest obstacle is the Skyrim engine itself... it basically handles cum (and blood) as a decal, which is fairly static. It can move a bit (the improved cum textures do appear to 'drip'), but can't be dynamic. I think the script engine would just explode if someone tried to make liquids form and drip naturally on a body, sad to say.
xgkf Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 Agreed. While a few additional animations as the OP mentioned would help a little bit with the sexiness and immersion aspect of it, really the best way to handle different 'amounts' of cum and in different places would just be to have more cum overlay textures for the framework to choose from when applying them, which could either be done randomly or in various stages (maybe it checks real quick to see if a cum overlay has already been applied and is still present, which would make it choose a specific 'next level' overlay to add additional cum to the body).
Rico87 Posted June 28, 2014 Author Posted June 28, 2014 Mmmh. Say, let's further the discussion for imaginary ways to implement this : 1) Cum dripping across the body would be enormous, but probably, as you say, not doable, i can't see a way for it to be worth the investment. 2) But cum dripping from the body on the ground? That sounds more reasonable to me, what do you think? It's just a special effect like a buff ... but then again i know next to nothing about skyrim engine. 3) And cum hanging from key bodyparts sounds doable, no? Like there's a mod for earrings with physics, so, can't we picture some very well done skin-textures for the static part on the body/head (exists already, althought i feel it could be improved), that are relayed by some dynamic-physics friendly cum that hangs by the chin/tits/or else? No complicated dripping, just the hanging, like an earring attached to the chin, for example. 4) Scripted special effects (like spells) anchored from within the mouth for oral creampies? Or same for vaginas, etc ? Like, someone designs a credible special effect, and sexlabs make it happens upon the end of final stage via script? Or maybe we can't play special effects wherever we want? Given mouths sizes are relatively the same everywhere, from my noobie perspective it sounds doable to have a girl with a mouthful, either swallow or release it on the ground (which then either disappears, or is relayed by yet another decal to leave a stain on the ground). Anyway thanks for the replies! Also, a question : Can an animation generate well-done cum, that disappears after the animation? Or an animation is just a skeleton doing something, without any added effects or stuff? Because the girl toying with cum just after the final stage would be superb, but it needs more than just the moves, the cum need to ... follow somehow the flow. PS : I have that weird bug whenever i post that makes me unable to post/edit 99% of the time, "oops something went wrong" saying i can't post links ... any help with that? I can't see myself contributing on this forum if 99% of the time i'm rejected
afa Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 There was a thread about how to add more "level" of cum details overlay on the body, I don't remember exactly what the limiting factor was that made it sort of disappear. I think it was something about either there was no asset or the framework can't keep track of the level of cum that is already on the character or can't handle the number of overlays. Dripping was proposed as well in the past, I think it was proposed with HDT in mind which...takes a lot of work that's why it was never done(?)
xgkf Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 Well, something like the Enhanced Blood Textures mod could probably be used/looked at as a basis for how to apply a cumdrip or pooling effect, since it gives those same sort of effects with blood.
larethiantest Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Wet and cold / Frostfall look inside at the "wet dripping effect" and see how that's done, might be able to mix and match with that blood texture.
Ashra XIII Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Yeah I was going to mention Frostfall as well, as it adds a dripping effect... which could be done with cum as well as water, just maybe with slower drips or something? Sexlab animations are how they are programmed to be... meaning they are never dynamic, so if there's an animation that looks like cumming, it has to be designed that way by whomever created it... meaning we've gotta work with what's already there, because it's not so simple to change that stuff. That said, lots of current animations have a rather slow last stage that does a pretty good job of looking correct, so it could be worse. As for the actual ejaculation, the only thing that exists for that right now is Sexlab Cumshot, which looks pretty decent, but of course there is no collision, so cum will pass right through the recipient and look a little funny at times. Someone has already used HDT to create belly distention (to look like the cock is pushing up against a girl's belly) so maaaybe it's possible to create some collision with the ejaculate? I have no idea. Anyone who uses Racemenu should be very familiar with decal layering, which that mod uses to create all kinda of cool tattoos, freckles, and other body markings. I'm sure that could also be used to make different layers of bukkake, getting progressively more coated, but I dunno if that can be done dynamically. Way beyond my very meager expertise.
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