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Desiree42

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Desiree42

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So before anyone asks, yes I'm using a mod organizer and TES5edit. My game still crashes(to desk top) before I get past the load screen when choose to load the game. It crashes straight to the desktop. So I was wondering if anyone can point out any incompatiable mods or correct the load order if Loot got it wrong or missed. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

  • Skyrim.esm
    CRC: C665FD56
  • Update.esm
    CRC: 1FDAB215
    Add: Delev, Relev
  • Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
    CRC: FB709557
    Version: 2.0.4a
    Add: Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
  • Dawnguard.esm
    CRC: 19160C7C
    Add: Delev, Relev
  • Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
    CRC: 4FC896F3
    Version: 2.0.4
    Add: Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
  • HearthFires.esm
    CRC: F4DDC851
  • Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
    CRC: 77F63482
    Version: 2.0.4
    Add: Names
  • Dragonborn.esm
    CRC: A46CA360
  • Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
    CRC: 8B14CDED
    Version: 2.0.4a
    Add: Delev
  • ApachiiHair.esm
    CRC: 783F7167
    Version: 1.4
  • LevelersTower.esm
    CRC: A11C189
  • ZaZAnimationPack.esm
    CRC: 77E2CBD2
  • TKChildren.esm
    CRC: CA34A682
  • Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
    CRC: 22F6680E
    Version: 2.05.021
  • sejhythpeople.esm
    CRC: 202E1F98
  • SexLab.esm
    CRC: E2DE82F8
    Version: 1.57
  • SexLab Attraction.esm
    CRC: 28809384
  • SexLabAroused.esm
    CRC: B6F3D900
  • HighResTexturePack01.esp
    CRC: D596F02A
  • HighResTexturePack02.esp
    CRC: D596F02A
  • HighResTexturePack03.esp
    CRC: D596F02A
  • 3DNPC.esp
    CRC: A5A352F4
    Version: 3.06
  • SkyUI.esp
    CRC: 9330CAF7
    Version: 4.1
  • Brawl Bugs CE.esp
    CRC: D284ACF
  • ADS.esp
    CRC: 73426A08
  • BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp
    CRC: 66E9EC89
  • FreckleMania.esp
    CRC: F8A9E042
  • PocketMoney.esp
    CRC: 7D0FEA67
  • Better Dynamic Snow.esp
    CRC: F3204EF1
  • SexLab Submit.esp
    CRC: 93838121
  • EB-Gender.esp
    CRC: 1E09EF8
  • TKChildren_DB.esp
    CRC: 3595E6EA
  • Player Size Adjuster.esp
    CRC: 3D2C999
    Version: 1.1
  • Extended Slider Colors.esp
    CRC: CCC48009
  • RaceMenuPlugin.esp
    CRC: 8A8A009F
    • Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.
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    CRC: 6F9D1F37
  • HearthfireMultiKid.esp
    CRC: 2055E93D
  • HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
    CRC: 4BA30BB0
  • Footprints.esp
    CRC: BFAF15E8
  • Silent Swords.esp
    CRC: 5D5EB9C6
  • Better Females - Eyebrows.esp
    CRC: 52EEDFDF
  • SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
    CRC: CD2E3484
  • LoversVictim.esp
    CRC: E30F6147
  • MasterIllusionCapRemover.esp
    CRC: B3ADA9B5
  • ImmersiveWater3.esp
    CRC: 297BBE4D
  • iHUD.esp
    CRC: 6633B25E
  • Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp
    CRC: 20517B79
  • Werewolves.esp
    CRC: 75852593
  • dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
    CRC: 7AFD4E3E
  • Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
    CRC: 7409094B
  • dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
    CRC: FE5C3763
  • RaceMenu.esp
    CRC: 2765B7D0
  • ReadAndLearnSpeechcraft.esp
    CRC: 89856215
  • BetterQuestObjectives.esp
    CRC: C71C862D
  • Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
    CRC: 469AA2FC
  • BetterQuestObjectives-ThievesGuildRequirementsPatch.esp
    CRC: D5DF05E0
  • UniqueWeaponsRedone.esp
    CRC: 1FF9314B
  • P1FlyingRing.esp
    CRC: 92C65F22
  • Sexlab Release.esp
    CRC: 927AA660
  • SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp
    CRC: 25D759E6
  • Lively Followers.esp
    CRC: 88420D07
  • Predator Vision.esp
    CRC: 9EE1D306
  • Animated Dragon Wings.esp
    CRC: 785C2901
  • SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
    CRC: BEB6BE7F
    Version: 2.1
    • Note: If this is not newer than v1.3, update to the latest version.
  • SexLabMatchMaker.esp
    CRC: 3A8F828
    Version: 5
  • SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
    CRC: CB770FA9
  • SoS - The Wilds.esp
    CRC: 7ABC4EAD
    Version: 1.13
    • Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
  • SoS - Civilization.esp
    CRC: 5EF1D362
    Version: 1.02
    • Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
  • OBIS.esp
    CRC: C646AC95
    Add: Delev, Relev
  • Skyrim School of Witchcraft and Wizardry.esp
    CRC: 8B377E77
  • SoS - The Dungeons.esp
    CRC: 79377267
    Version: 1.23
    • Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
  • SSv2.esp
    CRC: 3F23AE09
  • marriagemod - alpha v3.esp
    CRC: 6253825
  • AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
    CRC: D6C72A3C
  • Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
    CRC: D70003FD
    Version: 2.05.026
  • ArcheryDummyXP.esp
    CRC: D903EA41
  • OBISDB.esp
    CRC: 751721AB
    Add: Delev, Relev
  • sexlab_WearAndTear.esp
    CRC: E3082A8D
  • SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
    CRC: 5773F4FE
  • TKChildren_HF.esp
    CRC: 4473F9C3
  • TKChildren_V.esp
    CRC: 8058B6AA
  • USKP TKChildren Patch.esp
    CRC: 926BBE29
  • pickpocketable childrens.esp
    CRC: BC11166
  • childskeletonfix.esp
    CRC: A9392D5F
  • UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp
    CRC: 819B9DE8
  • UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
    CRC: 4CEB4A5B
    Version: 1.2i
    • Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.
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    CRC: 2F3183AC
  • Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp
    CRC: F0C03F40
  • Populated Cities 2.esp
    CRC: C44E186D
  • Deadpool.esp
    CRC: 5C3AB0DB
  • UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
    CRC: D34DD9EC
  • BetterQuestObjectives-UFOPatch.esp
    CRC: 7460524E
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    CRC: D23B4D2A
  • animal_mansion.esp
    CRC: B4B05AF5
  • faster vanilla horses.esp
    CRC: CA204F13
  • MidasSkyrim.esp
    CRC: A36317F7
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    CRC: FA3FD6C7
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    CRC: ADC9CED0
  • SexLabDefeat.esp
    CRC: EA52E6C0
  • foalsofskyrim.esp
    CRC: F31FD41E
  • Hunterborn.esp
    CRC: 7BF2F25C
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  • Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
    CRC: BFFD9BFF
  • My Home Is Your Home.esp
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    Version: 1.21
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  • ESFCompanions.esp
    CRC: CF7C7A14
    Version: 0.3.7
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  • BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp
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  • FNISspells.esp
    CRC: 4F3339DE
  • MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
    CRC: 5899D711
  • SexLabDangerousNights.esp
    CRC: C6BB81FA
  • BetterQuestObjectives-MoonlightPatch.esp
    CRC: 797A84CC
  • Open Cities Skyrim.esp
    CRC: EE590789
    Version: 1.0.8
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Nightmyste

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try putting skyui immediatly after the unofficial patches at the start of your load order, it might just Work as there are several mods here that have a dependency on the MCM features, also you might need to move the Schlongs of skyrim esp file before any other SOS esp's;

however i'm not sure if this is all you need to solve the problem, if it still doesn't Work then the easiest way is to unload all mods and slowly add them Again until the CTD happens Again then that mod will probably be the problem,

good luck

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I tried moving SkyUI and it didn't work. The SOS files are Sounds of Skyrim mods not any of the mods found here. I've already tried the last method, twice, and it didn't help. I also did a clean install of Skyrim, and used different save files(in case the save was corrupted) Thanks anyway.

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Why do you use both "Amazing Follower Tweaks" and "Ultimate Follower Overhaul"?

 

They both do different things. UFO: allows more followers, poses, dance, better dialog, removes level cap, marriage, etc. Amazing Follwers, allow riding for followers, home assignment, teleporting, ignore friendly fire,

 

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I would check to see if you're missing a master file.  Missing a master would cause the beth logo CTD.  Missing a master that is required by the savegame in question would cause it to CTD when trying to load that save.  The best way to check (at least for me since I don't know of another good way to do it) is to use Wrye Bash.  Esps that are missing a master will be flagged red.  You can also us it to see what files are required by individual saves to see what mods might be missing.

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I would check to see if you're missing a master file.  Missing a master would cause the beth logo CTD.  Missing a master that is required by the savegame in question would cause it to CTD when trying to load that save.  The best way to check (at least for me since I don't know of another good way to do it) is to use Wrye Bash.  Esps that are missing a master will be flagged red.  You can also us it to see what files are required by individual saves to see what mods might be missing.

 

Okay doing what you suggested worked on getting me pass the bethesda screen and let me actually get into game. Now the only problem is when the animations try to start, or when I use the erection spell from SexLab aroused.

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What is the problem, exactly? 

 

If using the animations just results in the character standing there like a brick with their arms and legs apart, be sure to run the fnis tool for in skyrim\data\tools\GenerateFNIS_for_Users\

 

I tried to intiate a scene and the game crashed to the desktop. It does that when I try to use the erection:target spell too.

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Hmm.  Make sure the skeletons you are using have bones for the genitals.  If the game tries to manipulate a bone node that doesn't exist in the skeleton, it crashes.

Any suggestions? I used the ones zazanimationsuggest, but if that's the problem i'd gladly change them

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Morferous

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Sadly, you have misunderstood how UFO and AFT work. They are both follower mods and should not be used together. Select either one of them.

 

(UFO allows you to ride, but I stronlgy suggest Convenient Horses to that purpose. UFO horses can be disabled by talking to Skulvar at Whiterun Stable.)

 

Run LOOT - the successor of BOSS - to sort our load order - >Select Sort Plugins and Apply. It inspects the Parent/Child (or master) relations between mods and is currently considered the easiest one to use. We always ask to see the summary in Steam forums, if there is a hassle going on.

 

LOOT will open Summary window, afterit is done. From there you will find the Number of Errors, if they exists. These would be the ones crahsing your game. You can find what is causing them or missing from Details section Summary window.

 

https://loot.github..../loot.github.io

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Sadly, you have misunderstood how UFO and AFT work. They are both follower mods and should not be used together. Select either one of them.

 

(UFO allows you to ride, but I stronlgy suggest Convenient Horses to that purpose. UFO horses can be disabled by talking to Skulvar at Whiterun Stable.)

 

Run LOOT - the successor of BOSS - to sort our load order - >Select Sort Plugins and Apply. It inspects the Parent/Child (or master) relations between mods and is currently considered the easiest one to use. We always ask to see the summary in Steam forums, if there is a hassle going on.

 

LOOT will open Summary window, afterit is done. From there you will find the Number of Errors, if they exists. These would be the ones crahsing your game. You can find what is causing them or missing from Details section Summary window.

 

https://loot.github..../loot.github.io

I already removed one of them after I posted about them. Still not working. LOOT is the one I use and it still finds no errors. Here's the summary.

 

Summary

LOOT Version 0.5.0

Masterlist Version 74b292d75

Masterlist Updating Enabled

Total Number of Messages 8

Number of Warnings 0

Number of Errors 0

 

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Make sure that you do not have any old patch files floating around your load order. LOOT, WryeBash and even TES5Edit can sometimes jump over them. I have no idea why they do not detect them.

 

It you don't then this is likely not a mod issue. Have you tried to verify your files? It is a fast process. Other things that come to my mind are well known memory bugs of Skyrim, but I don't think it is wise - or nice - to go trough installing them, if it is not needed.

 

Validating game files

- Exit Steam

- Go to your Steam folder and remove folder named appcache. Don't worry about missing a folder. Steam will create new one later.

- Go to your (My)Documents > My Games > Skyrim. Remove files Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini from the folder. Do not delete them, before Skyrim has properly created new files later.

- Close your computer.

 

- Start your computer

- Start Steam. It will now inspect your games for a new appcache folder.

- Go to Steam client Library view

- Right-click the link to The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim and select Properties > Local Files > Verify Integrity of Game Cache.

- 1 files will always fail to validate. It is related to how Skyrim and Steam detect your graphic card and does not have any effect to your game.

- Launch the game. New Skyrim.ini is created, when Skyrim detects your hardware. New SkryimPrefs.ini is created when Skyrim detexts your ingame settings.

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Make sure that you do not have any old patch files floating around your load order. LOOT, WryeBash and even TES5Edit can sometimes jump over them. I have no idea why they do not detect them.

 

It you don't then this is likely not a mod issue. Have you tried to verify your files? It is a fast process. Other things that come to my mind are well known memory bugs of Skyrim, but I don't think it is wise - or nice - to go trough installing them, if it is not needed.

 

Validating game files

- Exit Steam

- Go to your Steam folder and remove folder named appcache. Don't worry about missing a folder. Steam will create new one later.

- Go to your (My)Documents > My Games > Skyrim. Remove files Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini from the folder. Do not delete them, before Skyrim has properly created new files later.

- Close your computer.

 

- Start your computer

- Start Steam. It will now inspect your games for a new appcache folder.

- Go to Steam client Library view

- Right-click the link to The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim and select Properties > Local Files > Verify Integrity of Game Cache.

- 1 files will always fail to validate. It is related to how Skyrim and Steam detect your graphic card and does not have any effect to your game.

- Launch the game. New Skyrim.ini is created, when Skyrim detects your hardware. New SkryimPrefs.ini is created when Skyrim detexts your ingame settings.

 

So I did what you suggested, and it didn't seem to work. Then I noticed my file had been corrputed. Since I wanted to make sure the fix worked before I started a new game, I downloaded a saved game from the nexus. Didn't work, and game file was corrupted. I tried multiple files and the save kept getting corrupted. Any idea how to fix that? That may be what the problem is.

 

 

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The validation process does not touch save files.

They should be perfectly safe.

 

Does the load actually say that save was corrputed, or were you just unable to get it load?

And why did you load a game from Nexus, instead of starting a new one yourself?

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The validation process does not touch save files.

They should be perfectly safe.

 

Does the load actually say that save was corrputed, or were you just unable to get it load?

And why did you load a game from Nexus, instead of starting a new one yourself?

 

Yeah the loads actually say they were corrupted. I got them off nexus, because it's easier to test what's wrong with the game and see if it will still crash.

 

 

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