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Additional info: I just installed a new video card, r290, from my old 5970.  I did a clean driver install and have the latest catalyst suite from AMD. Did have some CTD issues before, but it seems to have gotten worse since the install.

 

Not crashing at start-up, that one I can fix myself, but will crash on load if loading from a save that had previously crashed, and there doesn't appear to be any rhythm to the crashes. Sometimes in picking a dialogue option, opening the map, looking at items, etc.

 

Some of the pap logs indicate alerts about previous mods I had used, such as 3DNPCs (interesting NPCs).  I did a clean skyrim install since I used that mod, so I'm not sure if I missed anything (I'm pretty good at following directions).

 

 

 

Load Order: 


Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

ApachiiHair.esm

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

SexLab.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

Devious Devices - Assets.esm

SexLab Attraction.esm

daymoyl.esm

Devious Devices - Integration.esm

BeeingFemale.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

Serana.esp

SexLab STDs.esp

SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp

SexLabDefeat.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

SkyUI.esp

Customizable Camera.esp

AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

HDT TestSkirts.esp

Devious Deviants.esp

sanguinesDebauchery.esp

SDpatch - dawnguard.esp

SDpatch - dragonborn.esp

SDpatch - frostfall.esp

Babette.esp

Differently Ebony.esp

Grass_On_Steroids_SFO-SHORT.esp

Headtracking.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

SFO - Dragonborn.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Brighter Dungeons.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_NL2.esp

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp

RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp

RND_USKP-Patch.esp

ASX_Spells.esp

P1FlyingRing.esp

FNISspells.esp

DraugrSkirts_Havok.esp

SexLab Cumshot.esp

ShakeIt.esp

AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp

SGEyebrows.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp

Aela.esp

Bijin Warmaidens.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp

SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp

SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp

SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp

Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp

Draconic Bloodline.esp

EmpireCoat.esp

Animated Dragon Wings.esp

SexLab Approach.esp

SexLab Extra Voices.esp

HDT Piercingsets.esp

NusbieVoices.esp

Apropos.esp

BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp

DeviouslyHelpless.esp

ShellBondage - Bombshell.esp

RND_AnimalLoot.esp

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp

The Joy of Perspective.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp


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You seem to have a number of orphaned scripts, I take it you have uninstalled some mods after trying them for awhile? You can try the clear invalids with the latest SKSE it should help. Also you can try one of the save game cleaners on Nexus as well.

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I ran the script cleaner from the nexus; the Fix all#-> only found 1, the FixScriptInstances button found 4. 

Threw the SKSE ini in with the ClearInvalidRegistrations=1 ; and used the console command in game.  It found none. 

 

In doing both of these it cleared all my sex history stats in the MCM, but left all the settings as I had set them before. 

 

 

After checking all this I hit quicksave, and CTD'd. :(

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Never use quicksave. Only the normal autos and regular hard saves. That could be part of your problem anyway.

 

And when you do a reinstall (and you want to get rid of EVERYTHING before the new stuff goes in) you have to go to documents/my games/Skryim and delete that entire Skyrim folder. Don't worry, you'll get a new one just using the Skyrim Launcher. There is generally bad stuff hidden in that folder that will carry over to a new install.

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Additional info: I just installed a new video card, r290, from my old 5970.  I did a clean driver install and have the latest catalyst suite from AMD. Did have some CTD issues before, but it seems to have gotten worse since the install.
 
Not crashing at start-up, that one I can fix myself, but will crash on load if loading from a save that had previously crashed, and there doesn't appear to be any rhythm to the crashes. Sometimes in picking a dialogue option, opening the map, looking at items, etc.
 
Some of the pap logs indicate alerts about previous mods I had used, such as 3DNPCs (interesting NPCs).  I did a clean skyrim install since I used that mod, so I'm not sure if I missed anything (I'm pretty good at following directions).
 
 
 
Load Order: 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
ApachiiHair.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
SexLab Attraction.esm
daymoyl.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
BeeingFemale.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
Serana.esp
SexLab STDs.esp
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
SkyUI.esp
Customizable Camera.esp
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
HDT TestSkirts.esp
Devious Deviants.esp
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
SDpatch - dawnguard.esp
SDpatch - dragonborn.esp
SDpatch - frostfall.esp
Babette.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
Grass_On_Steroids_SFO-SHORT.esp
Headtracking.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Brighter Dungeons.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_NL2.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
RND_USKP-Patch.esp
ASX_Spells.esp
P1FlyingRing.esp
FNISspells.esp
DraugrSkirts_Havok.esp
SexLab Cumshot.esp
ShakeIt.esp
AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp
SGEyebrows.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
Aela.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp
SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
Draconic Bloodline.esp
EmpireCoat.esp
Animated Dragon Wings.esp
SexLab Approach.esp
SexLab Extra Voices.esp
HDT Piercingsets.esp
NusbieVoices.esp
Apropos.esp
BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp
DeviouslyHelpless.esp
ShellBondage - Bombshell.esp
RND_AnimalLoot.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
The Joy of Perspective.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp

 

 

Im almost 100% sure your videocard is not problem.

LOOT-SKSE 1.7-TES5EDIT.

 

Better use MO as mod manager because NMM mess to many things up if you don't know what your doing.

 

Right loadorder is essential.

 

to many scripted mods cause crashes eventually.

 

Did you remove driver through safemode?

 

And use the AMD/Nvidia remove tool from GURU3D?

 

If not a clean install can still give problems if you just remove through catalist.

 

Why you install all those patches?

 

I'll bet they cause the crashes.

 

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Evasia, which patches?

 

I used boss along with NMM; the only thing installed without a Boss check is the last mod in the order (remodeled armor with physics); because as soon as you touch anything it stops working and needs reinstalled.

 

Yes, I did a clean driver install; removed the old drivers with the AMD cleaner tool, ccleaner, driver fusion, checked all the files manually to ensure they were deleted while in safemode.

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Have you tried starting a new game to see if there's still an issue with that one? If that works then your current saved is borked and is destined for the scrap heap. When game saves get fragged like that you can't do much besides trash them. Such is the life of a Skyrim player.

 

1) Play with different mods until the game breaks.

2) Try like Hell to fix it and lose hair and sleep over your 200+ hour save.

3) Cry for help. :D

4) Finally give in and deleted the toasted save(s).

5) Reinstall Skyrim and mods and do it again.

6) Repeat #5 :P

7) Keep repeating steps 5 and 6 until you realize all your problems can be fixed by using Mod Organizer and practicing sensible modding behaviors.

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LOOT is very good with load orders. Not perfect but nothing is, but it tends to give you a great starting point and rarely is there problems. To tweak it further requires researching all the mods you have and see if one of them should or should not be above or below another mod that makes changes to the same thing or in the same area.

 

As for the logs as I pointed out you have a lot of scripts that can't find things, that is a issue. How to fix it, I don't have more suggestions beyond those I already suggested. I have never had major issues with orphaned scripts so never really learned how to deal with them, beyond that I already suggested.

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So, ultimately, I should guess my load order and papyrus logs don't give any significant leads to specific problems?

 

At what point did I say guess the load order? I said LOOT does a good job of it, but to fine tune it you need to research the mods you have. That is not guessing that means you have to check the mods you are using and if any of them change similar things you need to read them and decided the load order based on what they do. There is no magic load order, each load order is unique based on the mods loaded.

 

No one can tell you the exact load order with out researching every mod you have, which is kinda asking a lot don't you think? Also if you use LOOT and the game runs then odds are your load order is fine. You only need to tweak the load order if you use LOOT and then run into issues.

 

As for the logs I gave you the best advice I can give. If the clear invalids and save game programs don't work, that is typically when I just start over.

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http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/articles/853/?

One of your .ESP's makes it look like your running an ENB along with COT and RLO, if so that is going to kill your game regardless of what GPU-card you have. 

 

The High-res DLC's provided for the game by Bethedsa are horrible, they are very inefficient at rendering properly, i would at the very least use the High-red DLC patch if your going to run them http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/31255/? Or, even better use 2K texture mod instead http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/607/?

 

Is sexlabSTD compatable with RND? 

 

 

 

 

 

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http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/articles/853/?

One of your .ESP's makes it look like your running an ENB along with COT and RLO, if so that is going to kill your game regardless of what GPU-card you have. 

 

The High-res DLC's provided for the game by Bethedsa are horrible, they are very inefficient at rendering properly, i would at the very least use the High-red DLC patch if your going to run them http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/31255/? Or, even better use 2K texture mod instead http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/607/?

 

Is sexlabSTD compatable with RND? 

 

I did what this guy told me to for graphics: 

 

 

Game runs smooth. I don't have an FPS tracker, but stutters are very rare, a few seconds every several hours.

 

I don't have the official high res pack enabled.

 

Yes, it is.

 

 

 

So, I got LOOT and TES5Edit and obeyed. Along with gopher's tutorial 

; I killed 90% of my CTDs without reinstalling my game or any of my mods.

 

Thanks for the help guys.

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