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Im running hdt body with high rez cbbe textures (using a slightly modified cbbe preset). I have tried re-installing my body and skeleton already a few times and spent a few hrs looking for simular problems to no avail with hdt/cbbe bodys. The first issue only appears when im armored using ct77 remodeled default armor the next appears only when im not using remodeled default armor or when stark naked. I am running enb and look at the neck for the issues. It only appears to affect females but all races













And incase someone needs this to figure it out my load order


00 Skyrim.esm
01 Update.esm
02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.3]
03 Dawnguard.esm
04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.3]
05 HearthFires.esm
06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.3]
07 Dragonborn.esm
08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.3]
09 ApachiiHair.esm
0A ApachiiHairFemales.esm
0B AzarHair.esm
0C RaceCompatibility.esm
0D BBLuxurySuite.esm
0E ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
0F hdtHighHeel.esm
10 LevelersTower.esm
11 Perk-Reset-MCM.esm
12 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
13 SexLab.esm [Version 1.57]
14 SexLabAroused.esm
15 SummerWear.esm
16 ZaZAnimationPack.esm
17 Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.7.5]
18 Devious Devices - Integration.esm
19 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
1A SexLab Attraction.esm
1B SharedSeranaDialogue.esm
1C BeeingFemale.esm [Version 0.3.19b]
1D daymoyl.esm
1E HighResTexturePack01.esp
1F HighResTexturePack02.esp
20 HighResTexturePack03.esp
21 Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp
22 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
23 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp [Version 1.1.6]
24 Chesko_Frostfall.esp
25 BardSoundsMalukah.esp
26 Immersive Sounds - Aural Assortment.esp
27 Immersive Sounds - Magic.esp
28 Immersive Sounds - Weaponry.esp
29 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp
2A Dual Sheath Redux.esp
2B LoversComfort.esp
2C LoversVictim.esp
2D MasterChest.esp
2E MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
2F PuppetMaster.esp
30 SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp
31 SexLab STDs.esp
32 SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp
33 SexLabGuild.esp [Version 666]
34 SexLabSquirt.esp
35 SexLab_Hormones.esp
36 SWT1.2.esp
37 SexLabDefeat.esp
38 sextoys-calyps-2.esp
39 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp [Version v6.5.2]
3A Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp [Version v6.5.2]
3B RaceMenu.esp
3C RaceMenuPlugin.esp
3D RaceMenuOverlays.esp
3E SkyUI.esp
3F AdditionalAmulets.esp
40 AllowAmuletRing.esp
41 amk Border Lace Lingerie.esp
42 AmuletOfHomecoming.esp
43 AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp
44 BAMM.esp
45 BlackSacramentArmor.esp
46 BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp
47 Cloaks.esp
48 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
49 CraftablePantysCBBEv3M.esp
4A DaedricAssassinArmorLight.esp
4B DemonHunterArmor.esp
4C Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp
4D Earrings Set1.esp
4E Elewin Jewelry.esp
4F Field Mage Outfit.esp
50 LadyKdCirclets.esp
51 LeftHandRings.esp [Version 1.4]
52 LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp [Version 1.4]
53 LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp
54 NewmillerElvenSniper.esp
55 NewVampChainsCuirass.esp
56 NewVampChainsGloves.esp
57 NiaOutfitBBP.esp
58 NobleWeddingDressByUrshi.esp
59 R18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.esp
5A Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
++ Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
++ Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
5C Skyrim_Strap_Ons.esp
5D Svs Collection Jewelry.esp
5E UNP Jewelry Variants V3.esp
5F Dr_Bandolier.esp
60 HDT Havok Object.esp
61 SkyRe_Main.esp
62 SkyRe_Combat.esp
63 SkyRE-Patch.esp
64 SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
65 SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
66 SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
67 SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
68 SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
69 SkyRe_Dreamcloth.esp
6A Immersive Sounds - Magic SkyRe Patch.esp
++ SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp [Version v6.1.2]
6B BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp
6C BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp
6D BBLSspouse.esp
6E BBLSVisitors.esp
6F SummerWearSA.esp
70 Captured Dreams.esp
71 Dawnspire.esp
72 Dawnspire - Dragonborn Plugin.esp
73 Devious Deviants.esp
74 DeviousRegulations.esp
75 PumpingIron.esp
76 When Vampires Attack.esp [Version 1.1.1]
77 sanguinesDebauchery.esp
78 SDpatch - dawnguard.esp
79 SDpatch - dragonborn.esp
7A SDpatch - frostfall.esp
7B thereserve.esp
7C thereserve_v2.esp
7D ThistleCottage.esp [Version 1.4]
7E BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp
7F Dawnguard - Join As A Vampire.esp
80 FemaleMannequinsBreton.esp
81 ImmersiveFP.esp
++ Proper Aiming.esp
82 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
83 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
84 SexLab Submit.esp
85 SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Plugin_DLC1_AHead_A.esp
86 SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Main_AHead_A.esp
87 SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Plugin_DLC2_AHead_A.esp
88 xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
89 RealisticRoomRental.esp
8A Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
8B Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers - Brighter Nights.esp
8C Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Brighter Dungeons.esp
8D ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
8E ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
8F CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
90 CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
91 CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-10.esp
92 CoT-WeatherPatch_NL1.esp
93 PrivateNeeds.esp
94 PrivateNeeds-Sexlab.esp
95 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
96 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
97 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
98 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
99 PrivateNeeds-RND.esp
9A RND_USKP-Patch.esp
9B Better Vampires.esp
9C P1FlyingRing.esp
9D The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
9E Sneak Tools.esp
9F Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
A0 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
A1 Pinup Poser.esp
A2 SexLab Cumshot.esp [Version 1.5.2]
A3 SkyrimSpeedsVanilla.esp
A4 LovelyHairstylesLITE.esp
A5 NUHairstyles.esp
A6 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp [Version 9]
A7 BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp
A8 RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp
A9 The Coenaculi.esp
AA Tribal Tattoo Overlays.esp
AB LunariRace.esp
AC OrientalRace.esp
AD SuccubusRaceLite.esp
AE SexLab RND.esp
AF Marriable Serana.esp [Version 1.6.2]
B0 Marriable Serana HF.esp [Version 1.6.2]
B1 SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
B2 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.3.6b]
B3 CharacterMakingExtender.esp
B4 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
B5 SkyRe_Races.esp
B6 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
B7 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
B8 ReProccer.esp
B9 Devious Loading Screens.esp [Version 2.7]
BA DeviouslyHelpless.esp
BB GagSFX.esp
BC SexLabDangerousNights.esp
BD Immersive Sounds - Footsteps.esp
BE chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp
BF RND_AnimalLoot.esp
C0 RutahTattooPack.esp
C1 TrueBrows.esp
C2 Immersive Sounds - Footsteps Dragonborn Patch.esp
C3 GagSFXDawnguard.esp
C4 GagSFXDragonborn.esp
C5 GagSFXHearthfires.esp
C6 HDT Piercingsets.esp
C7 mslDeviousCaptures.esp
C8 NusbieVoices.esp
C9 Private Needs Discreet.esp [Version 1.4.0]
CA SexLab Warmbodies.esp
CB SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
CC SlaveTats.esp
CD SpousesEnhanced.esp
CE Devious Devices - Gags+.esp
CF Masque of Clavicus Vile.esp
D0 SexLab Approach.esp
D1 SpousesEnhanced_Serana.esp
D2 YCrimeOverhaul.esp
D3 SexLab Submit Serana.esp
D4 sexlab_WearAndTear.esp
D5 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp
D6 Radiant-SchlongsPatch.esp
D7 Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp
D8 BeeingFemale_Cooking.esp
D9 DD FtM - Cloaks patch.esp
DA dd-sd1-compatibility-patch.esp
DB Animated Dragon Wings.esp
DC hydra_slavegirls.esp
DD SlaveHeelsForHDTHighheelSystem.esp
DE slaverun.esp
DF HDTPE-items-MTM.esp


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I have tryed alot of things to fix it myself that gap ive had for weeks but the char i was playing her neck was covered by armor so it didnt bother me normally now ive grow bored so rolled a s&b fighter unfort her planned armor doesnt cover the neck completely.

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Every time this has happened to me (3 times with 3 different bodies) it was Zaz Animation Pack overwriting the head meshes, which apparently changes them enough to cause this gap. Try reinstalling your body meshes then the skeleton again. If you're using Mod Organizer just place (in the left pane for installed mods) Zaz higher in the list than your body and skeleton. That fixed it for me.


If that doesn't work I don't have any other ideas. Zaz is the only thing that's caused this for me.

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the gap appears on a preset i did i rerolled the char again and i cant see it right now without the preset so im thinking it might of been slider related ill find out since what i usually do is just select my race/gender then hit the bed in live another life i do all customization outside on a mountain top i get better light everywhere (less shadows on my back when i add tattoos).

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Ok i have semi solved both issues and will be marking as solved. The flap of skin is being caused by the pregnancy weight armor mod im using off of here im hating it cause now i wont be able to see my pregnancy unless i strip or wear cloth  :( . With the second issue its def tied in with some of the body adjustment sliders in char gen prob cause by ECE. All i have to do is reenter char gen and mess with my sheild on back slider till it fixes annoying but seems to hold.

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ya cant keep the gap away but i know how to close it every time something changes my shape (i run hormones, beeing female, and pumping iron). So needless to say im gonna still be hunting a perma fix. 



Update the seem def was caused by ece prob cause i also run race menu ive dropped ece so no longer have the issue.

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