kissofthehell Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 Some of you probably know Better Vampie Lord Transformation on Nexus and probabl use it too. Ive been using it for a while and recently i switched to UNPB+XP32 skele + HDT Phycis and somehow that broke the mod. My skyrim is that modded to the point i absolutely cannot find the reason why it crashes the moment i transform. Its not HDT thats for sure neither skeleton. I tried borth XP32 and its extended version. If the issue cannot be found. Can someone recomment me a similiar mod that does the same? Expect Shaydows version. Changes waay to much on VL.
nagothm Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 The vampire skeleton is different than the one you are using for UNP, when you transform it is keeping the UNP body but trying to use the skeleton for the vampire lord. The missing bones are causing the crash. (At least as far as i understand it) Both fixes work perfectly. Ive used both. http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/157-fast-dirty-fix-vampire-lord-skeletons-for-bbptbbp-bodies/ is a fix for the crashing with that mod http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/368-shaydows-vampirelord-overhaul/ is the fix plus new animations etc (kind of a complete overhaul for the female vampire lord) the support topics have more information as well. Good Luck Oh, and if Shaydos changes a bit too much for you you can always swap out animations, armors, bodys etc. I ended up using the most of the animations from shaydos but using the one from nexus for the body swap etc. Combo-ing the mod works great.
Cyndi Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 Might be your vampire lord's skeleton. The one with that mod is pretty generic and only supports so much. Just bbp and limited tbbp. If you are using a pregnancy weighted unpb body or need sos for females bones or some such you will crash when you transform.
kissofthehell Posted May 3, 2014 Author Posted May 3, 2014 The vampire skeleton is different than the one you are using for UNP, when you transform it is keeping the UNP body but trying to use the skeleton for the vampire lord. The missing bones are causing the crash. (At least as far as i understand it) Both fixes work perfectly. Ive used both. http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/157-fast-dirty-fix-vampire-lord-skeletons-for-bbptbbp-bodies/ is a fix for the crashing with that mod http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/368-shaydows-vampirelord-overhaul/ is the fix plus new animations etc (kind of a complete overhaul for the female vampire lord) the support topics have more information as well. Good Luck I saw the Dirty Fix and i saw that as of xxx version its put in the nexus mod. I have been using the Shaydows version but when i tried switching body/animations i failed horribly. I wanted to have my normal body + vampire animations + wings which Lash's version succeded providing with no problems Might be your vampire lord's skeleton. The one with that mod is pretty generic and only supports so much. Just bbp and limited tbbp. If you are using a pregnancy weighted unpb body or need sos for females bones or some such you will crash when you transform. Im using clean UNPB+XP32 Skele and HDT physics. I have BBP and TBBP since XP32 supports them and the mod worked when i was on UNP/CBBE. I see no reason why it would crash if im using UNPB. Since UNPB is UNP but... Blessed
Cyndi Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 Try this one then: VLSkeletontype3.7z Extract it from the archive, and put it here: skyrim \ data \ meshes \ actors \ vampirelord \ character assets \ If that doesn't work, make a zip or 7z file of the body you are using, and attach it to a post.
kissofthehell Posted May 3, 2014 Author Posted May 3, 2014 Try this one then: VLSkeletontype3.7z Extract it from the archive, and put it here: skyrim \ data \ meshes \ vampirelord \ character assets \ If that doesn't work, make a zip or 7z file of the body you are using, and attach it to a post. Did not work. I am using normal UNPB body from nexus + XP32 skeleton from nexus. Come to think of it... im not using enterly original UNPB body mesh. Im using a HDT Body variant of UNPB made using Bodyslide and using http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25750-hdt-body/. I think thats what causes the crash. However i do not know if that will break HDT physics if im using normal UNPB. My guess is that the VLO looks for UNP/UNPB Mesh but finds HDTUNPB mesh and goes potato and crashes.
aqqh Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 It helped for me.. thx! tho its Data\meshes\ACTORS\vampirelord\character assets
Cyndi Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 Try this one then: VLSkeletontype3.7z Extract it from the archive, and put it here: skyrim \ data \ meshes \ vampirelord \ character assets \ If that doesn't work, make a zip or 7z file of the body you are using, and attach it to a post. Did not work. I am using normal UNPB body from nexus + XP32 skeleton from nexus. Come to think of it... im not using enterly original UNPB body mesh. Im using a HDT Body variant of UNPB made using Bodyslide and using http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25750-hdt-body/. I think thats what causes the crash. However i do not know if that will break HDT physics if im using normal UNPB. My guess is that the VLO looks for UNP/UNPB Mesh but finds HDTUNPB mesh and goes potato and crashes. VLO looks for these meshes: skyrim \ data \ meshes \ actors \ character \ character assets \ femalebody_0.nif and femalebody_1.nif Make a Copy of those two files to your desktop, and compress them into a .7z file. You can do that with either 7zip or winmount etc. Attach the 7z file to post here, so I can download it, and see exactly what you have. Otherwise I'm grasping at straws as I don't use bodyslide or that hdt body so I have no idea what that thing is generating for your bodies and their weights.
kissofthehell Posted May 3, 2014 Author Posted May 3, 2014 Actually it works... perfectly. Its how aqqh said. Its in wrong location. Can you explain to me what have you done in order for the skeleton to work properly? BTW even HDT physics work on transformation.
Cyndi Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 Sorry about the wrong path thing. I just added the missing bones. It's a testing file for the "dirty fix" nagothm linked before. Hdt working with it is normal, since hdt is still detecting the bones it would normally handle. However I didn't make a proper .hkx rig map for them, so it isn't a perfect fix (hence the mod name). Should still work fine though. Edit: That particular one has a belly node, and I've adjusted how the breast and butt bones were attached from previous versions.
kissofthehell Posted May 3, 2014 Author Posted May 3, 2014 Sorry about the wrong path thing. I just added the missing bones. It's a testing file for the "dirty fix" nagothm linked before. Hdt working with it is normal, since hdt is still detecting the bones it would normally handle. However I didn't make a proper .hkx rig map for them, so it isn't a perfect fix (hence the mod name). Should still work fine though. Edit: That particular one has a belly node, and I've adjusted how the breast and butt bones were attached from previous versions. I want to thank you for the fix. I would have never guessed since the dirty fix was included in VLO and i would have never guessed that the skeleton of VL was the problem. Thank you again for the fix.
Cyndi Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 Well even the one packaged with VLO is one version older than what is available here, never mind the one I posted just now lol. I had made a new one literally the day after Loshirai added it to VLO. This one I made a month or so ago, but hadn't remembered to upload it anywhere.
kissofthehell Posted May 3, 2014 Author Posted May 3, 2014 Well even the one packaged with VLO is one version older than what is available here, never mind the one I posted just now lol. I had made a new one literally the day after Loshirai added it to VLO. This one I made a month or so ago, but hadn't remembered to upload it anywhere. Either way thank you. Now it works like a charm. I guess UNPB body has a few more bones and VLO default vampire skeleton doesnt like it.
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