Lord Ariakas Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 Hi, I desperately need some help.I did my research on the internet but I couldnt find solution for it.I installed this version on a top of HDT havok object and suddenly the physics went mad.Since then I uninstalled havok object, reinstalled the skeleton, reinstalled this version, reinstalled 12 29.The problem still persist and I dont know how to fix.The problem:1. jittering vibrating butt.Even with this version.I am using ENB.2. The breasts working properly for a minute or so,then suddenly one of them stuck on the left or right and stop moving.Later the other breast doing the same, locking in a position and start to shake or vibrate.Sometimes the breast just stretch and then jump back to the original shape.I am using bodychange mod, unp body,xpms skeleton extended (newest)Realvision enbnfisTBBP dragonfly.I tried to delete the skeleton file too, to disable the tbbp movement, I got the same errors after that too.Any help appreciated, I am clueless now what is going on. Even.when I deleted Havok object, nothing has changed...Also sometimes the breasts are not freezing just completely out of sync, one of them moving properly, the other is somewhat moving differently...
dje34 Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 You shouldn't be using TBBP animations and HDT Physics at the same time !
Lord Ariakas Posted March 14, 2014 Author Posted March 14, 2014 You shouldn't be using TBBP animations and HDT Physics at the same time ! I just used TBBP dragonfly anims (walking) I haven't copied the rest of the package over. Even this can cause my issues? Or this causing my issues? How it can be fixed? Which version should I use with havok object?
dje34 Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 This is a known bug I have too and to be honest the only way to get rid of it for sure is to start all HDT_PE install thing from scratch, uninstall everything involving HDT_PE, make a clean save and install an old stable version and nothing more (no havok object, no boob collision, no ponytail, only the old stable version). Once it is done it should work correctly, then make a backup of the folder where you installed the fully working stable version of HDT_PE and you will be able to start thinking about using more HDT_PE stuff or not. GL !
Lord Ariakas Posted March 14, 2014 Author Posted March 14, 2014 Thanks, I will try to do these. I had a working old skyrim datasave abd within a working skse folder. I copied it over and i got the same problems, nothing has changed. Now i will try what you wrote,delete everything and copy a 12.29 to skse. Clean save. If it wont change anything I give up.
Lord Ariakas Posted March 16, 2014 Author Posted March 16, 2014 Ok, I played around a bit. It seems the hdt extension itself is the culprit. I tried 12.29 and the new 14.whatever version too.I got vibrating butt and weird stuttering boobs. When I went back to earlier versions, everything was fine.Now I run HDT all in one on it. It is still not a solution, because everything seems stable but i miss the version 12.29 and above jiggling. The older versions look unrealistic and got less jiggly motion. What can I do? Everyone get this with never versions? Or it can clash with mods? What can be the solution?I would like to use 12.29 at least...
dobmc Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 That's weird, I thought XPMS Extended disabled TBBP to enable TBBP animation compatibility with HDT.
shadowlord445 Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 In your ENB local file, under LIMITER, have you changed WaitBusyRenderer from false to true?
Lord Ariakas Posted March 17, 2014 Author Posted March 17, 2014 yes it is changed to true. Just to make sure I don't have tbbp I deleted skeleton hkx too. I know it is not needed anymore with xpms extended, but I just wanted to make sure...aaaand I still get the vibrating boobs and butt with skeleton hkx and without it. Strange indeed and why just on newer versions? I doublechecked waitbusyrenderer it is set to true in localenb.ini and in the ingame menu too... I don't think a complete reinstall would help, cos HDT is not interfering with normal mods???
dobmc Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 It does. Oops, I think I made someone look ignorant. Sorry for that. Anyways the only support I can give is to try enabling v-sync. Can't remember where I got this piece of information from, but theres quite the number people with similar issues which occur in-doors.
dje34 Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 Ok, I played around a bit. It seems the hdt extension itself is the culprit. I tried 12.29 and the new 14.whatever version too.I got vibrating butt and weird stuttering boobs. When I went back to earlier versions, everything was fine.Now I run HDT all in one on it. It is still not a solution, because everything seems stable but i miss the version 12.29 and above jiggling. The older versions look unrealistic and got less jiggly motion. What can I do? Everyone get this with never versions? Or it can clash with mods? What can be the solution?I would like to use 12.29 at least... It IS a solution as your 1st problem no longer exists ! Now you should use the Just For Fun program you can find around these forums to make a jiggling/bouncing to your liking ! I think it works for all HDT_PE versions.
Lord Ariakas Posted March 21, 2014 Author Posted March 21, 2014 Ok, I played around a bit. It seems the hdt extension itself is the culprit. I tried 12.29 and the new 14.whatever version too.I got vibrating butt and weird stuttering boobs. When I went back to earlier versions, everything was fine.Now I run HDT all in one on it. It is still not a solution, because everything seems stable but i miss the version 12.29 and above jiggling. The older versions look unrealistic and got less jiggly motion. What can I do? Everyone get this with never versions? Or it can clash with mods? What can be the solution?I would like to use 12.29 at least... It IS a solution as your 1st problem no longer exists ! Now you should use the Just For Fun program you can find around these forums to make a jiggling/bouncing to your liking ! I think it works for all HDT_PE versions. Just for fun? I had a look, got the program, but the tutorial page is not exist anymore, and when I loaded the hdtphysicsextensionsDefaultBBP.xml, there are options came up for NPC L breast NPC R breast, and a lot of numbers in boxes, but I don`t know what I should change or how....(scratches head) Any help with it? Basically I just would like more jiggliness and more bouncing...
Lord Ariakas Posted March 24, 2014 Author Posted March 24, 2014 Ok I found out finally what was the issue. The body. I used a non hdt body. Now I changed to hdt unp.No more weird flickering jamming boobs, and it is working with 12.29. However...with this body the jiggle become reduced somehow. It is hard to explain, it is still jiggling but somehow differently and the old one(the buggy one) was completely lifelike (chsbhc based unp) and the new not that...wiggly. Is anyone knows a good body wich is HDT conpatible yet similar to CHSBHC based unp?
TnTTnT Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Have no idea what is CHSBHC based UNP? I only use CHSBHC (TBBP) with HDT.
Lord Ariakas Posted March 25, 2014 Author Posted March 25, 2014 Have no idea what is CHSBHC based UNP? I only use CHSBHC (TBBP) with HDT. It is called UNP bouncing boobs -Using CHSBHC BBP by AjuntaPall316.
Lord Ariakas Posted March 25, 2014 Author Posted March 25, 2014 Now I am using UNPB gravity affection 2.4 This body solved my problem but i don't have the CHSBHC like full wiggly-gigglyness. Is anybody know a good body wich is FULLY HDT compatible AND CHSBHC like (bouncing)? AND it is UNP body or can be textured with UNP textures?
Lord Ariakas Posted March 28, 2014 Author Posted March 28, 2014 So either no solution or nobody cares. Thank you anyway...
larethiantest Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/20227/?tab=2&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D20227&pUp=1 you want the second update file. UNPB MTM Bodies and UNP MTM Bodies NMM Installer 8,800 unique downloads 11,864 downloads 43,797kb size It includes all UNP/UNPB MTM Body Versions - 2.2 No bounce, 2 Bouncy, 2H More Bounce, 2X Heavy Bounce, 2H-TB TBBP Bounce, B2 Bounce and SFW - Not an update for the clothing files, just using this category to help distinguish the body files im pretty sure mine came from this i just manually extracted it from this though. Alot of what i use is a giant mashup of so many different things but i found this to be the best body for nice bounce on unp. you can also try the bodyslide hdt for all bodies thing here on LL but i found it didnt work so well on unp gave very strange bounce, not natural.
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