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Inàste

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Hello,

in my recent trips to Skyrim I encountered an annoying problem.



When switching into vanilla First Person View, the camera seems to "float" a bit higher than usual, additionally the controls are a bit weird and it feels like floating. On top of that I can rotate the camera into very large angles and when upside down, I'm able to see my third-person body mesh (arms, once complete body no head though),as if the camera is 1 m behind them. Intriguing is, that when switching to First Person, the camera adjusts its angle on itself, till looking at the bottom in a kinda 45° angle. When looking further down, i can "hover" over the ground in low height.

I can live with that since I dont use FP anyway, but what bothers me, is that ever since I've experiencing this issue, my crosshair in Third and First Person View seems to be quite off, to the extent that im trying for 20-30 Seconds to focus on a character or worse an object until im being presented interaction possibilities.



Im not sure if the following issue is also because of the same source, but I've been experiencing micro lag/low FPS  when moving the camera in exterior areas at around the same time.

I would also like to add, that even before the recent Memory Fix my setup was extremely stable, maybe a CTD every 3-4 hours at max at approx. (none since) 230 activated mods.The problem has really just recently come to existence.

 

Also happens upon making a new game. When entering the Alternate Life cell, I hear a spell effect and the character faces the ground curiously.

SKSE Version: 0.1.6.16

Mod Manager: ModOrganizer

FNIS: 4.11

Skeleton: Custom XPMS 1.92 [from Loverslab]



Suspected roots of the problem:

Immersive First Person

Abovementioned Skeleton

(Updated FNIS)

Enhanced 3rd Person camera

Master the Space-Time Continuum

HDTHighHeel System

 

Disabled Sexlab Submit Belts: Maybe error script bloat (Counterargument: Bug also happens in the cell of Alternate Life, before exiting)

DanceTogether (!This is actually my prime suspect, since I experienced quite a few strange camera glitches and disabled controls when using it, though I did not activate it in my primary save whatsoever. However the problem really stroke me for the first time after using this mod [remember: I never saved after using it] and I suspect, that it may have changed an ini.file)


My load order:



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FirstPersonPlugin.dll

Fuz Ro D'oh.dll Version: 6.0.6.405

MfgConsole.dll

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Dont know how to find or generate papyrus log files. Are the only generated on CTD, or can I generate one via console? Please let me know, how to provide one, and if any other files (.ini's) could help you in helping me.

 

Thank you in advance for your help. 

 

Regards

Inàste

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As well as what you describe, In first person when running does your view move up ~90 then back when you stop ?

Just had that badness spent a couple of days tryng to find cause, it  may be IFP as after its update found on entry to IFP upside down view undid the update and was OK

then a few days latter it borked....

Only solution I have found is a complete reinstall and new game... (yes I tired old game save, recreate ini, reload skse and use old game files)

still slowly putting mods back in but hope my "master" save after play getting to good level  (20+) with basic mods only (no SL etc ever enabled) will be OK..

 

If some one finds a better soloution I wil be happy/anoyed

 

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