TerrorDeaths Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Hi guys,Ā I have not played skyrim for a long time and have just tried to play again, at this time when the enemy dies take all the items or there is an animation that makes the npc naked there is a glitch in the breasts. I've tried reinstalling Bodyslide, CBBE, CBPC, HDT-SMP faster, CBBE 3BA, XP32 and nemesis still no luck. Also have tried reducing the jiggly preset is also the same (6/5/4), both Full SMP/CBPC/Lite is also the same. Can anyone help me with this? I'm using vortex and here's my load order Quote # Automatically generated by Vortex Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ccasvsse001-almsivi.esm ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm ccbgssse002-exoticarrows.esl ccbgssse003-zombies.esl ccbgssse004-ruinsedge.esl ccbgssse005-goldbrand.esl ccbgssse006-stendarshammer.esl ccbgssse007-chrysamere.esl ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl ccbgssse011-hrsarmrelvn.esl ccbgssse012-hrsarmrstl.esl ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl ccbgssse019-staffofsheogorath.esl ccbgssse020-graycowl.esl ccbgssse021-lordsmail.esl ccmtysse001-knightsofthenine.esl ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm cceejsse001-hstead.esm ccqdrsse002-firewood.esl ccbgssse018-shadowrend.esl ccbgssse035-petnhound.esl ccfsvsse001-backpacks.esl cceejsse002-tower.esl ccedhsse001-norjewel.esl ccvsvsse002-pets.esl ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl ccbgssse034-mntuni.esl ccbgssse045-hasedoki.esl ccbgssse008-wraithguard.esl ccbgssse036-petbwolf.esl ccffbsse001-imperialdragon.esl ccmtysse002-ve.esl ccbgssse043-crosselv.esl ccvsvsse001-winter.esl cceejsse003-hollow.esl ccbgssse016-umbra.esm ccbgssse031-advcyrus.esm ccbgssse038-bowofshadows.esl ccbgssse040-advobgobs.esl ccbgssse050-ba_daedric.esl ccbgssse052-ba_iron.esl ccbgssse054-ba_orcish.esl ccbgssse058-ba_steel.esl ccbgssse059-ba_dragonplate.esl ccbgssse061-ba_dwarven.esl ccpewsse002-armsofchaos.esl ccbgssse041-netchleather.esl ccedhsse002-splkntset.esl ccbgssse064-ba_elven.esl ccbgssse063-ba_ebony.esl ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.esl ccbgssse060-ba_dragonscale.esl ccbgssse056-ba_silver.esl ccbgssse055-ba_orcishscaled.esl ccbgssse053-ba_leather.esl ccbgssse051-ba_daedricmail.esl ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.esl ccbgssse066-staves.esl ccbgssse067-daedinv.esm ccbgssse068-bloodfall.esl ccbgssse069-contest.esl ccvsvsse003-necroarts.esl ccvsvsse004-beafarmer.esl ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm ccffbsse002-crossbowpack.esl ccbgssse013-dawnfang.esl ccrmssse001-necrohouse.esl ccedhsse003-redguard.esl cceejsse004-hall.esl cceejsse005-cave.esm cckrtsse001_altar.esl cccbhsse001-gaunt.esl ccafdsse001-dwesanctuary.esm _ResourcePack.esl unofficial skyrim special edition patch.esp RaceCompatibility.esm LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm BBLuxurySuite.esm battlenymphs.esm SOSVoices.esm SOSVoices_Part1.esl SOSVoices_Part2.esl Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm FlowerGirls SE.esm YurianaWench.esp SMSkyrim.esp Immersive Wenches.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp RevertUSSEPFortifyRestoration.esp Revert Blizzard Resistance Fix for USSEP.esp XPMSE.esp SkyUI_SE.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp CharacterMakingExtender.esp CBBE.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp JKs Skyrim.esp BBLS_SKSE64_Patch.esp Eli_Breezehome.esp Original Opening Scene.esp MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp LegacyoftheDragonborn0.esp BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp the paarthurnax dilemma.esp BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp MrissiQuestTweak.esp Immersive Weapons.esp ScopedBows.esp AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp Crimson Blood Armor.esp BlackSacramentArmor.esp LustmordVampireArmor.esp Celes Nightingale Armor.esp BBLSExtBeds.esp NewmillerDarkVampKnight.esp Daedric Chainmail Rework - CBBE 3BBB Bodyslide.esp Neo's Devilmaid2.esp Daedric Reaper Armor.esp CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp customEbonyValkyrie1_2.esp Eli_Breezehome [ADDON - CC Armoury Expansion].esp Eli_Breezehome [PATCH - USSEP].esp Ambriel.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp Perfect Legionnaire - Troops Re-equipment.esp Shindara.esp ShindaraHeelsOutfit.esp CS_Visions.esp Coldsun Mill Hideout.esp 018Auri.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp ImprovedCompanionsBoogaloo.esp Iceheart Mill - Susannah Voiced.esp Bijin AIO.esp SeranaDialogAddon.esp RDO Updated.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp FDE Aela.esp FDE Aela Part 2.esp CS_Coralyn.esp Naughty Girls of Tamriel SSE AIO.esp CiceroFemaleSE.esp CS_TheIceheartSisters.esp CS_Iceheart_Banter.esp CiceroFemaleConversion.esp FDE Jenassa.esp abcd_valerica.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Wives.esp FDE Sapphire.esp FDE Aranea.esp FDE Rayya.esp FDE Camilla.esp FDE Ysolda.esp FDE Borgakh.esp FDE Illia.esp FDE Uthgerd.esp FDE Jordis.esp FDE Mjoll.esp FDE Brelyna.esp EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp Ashe - Fire and Blood.esp zMirai.esp Aniya Follower.esp MistySkye.esp HLIORemi.esp TKAA.esp SofiaFollower.esp nwsFollowerFramework.esp NWS_Elana.esp SILVMalrynFollower.esp evangeline.esp AuroraFollower.esp DK_Thogra.esp Katana.esp Yashira.esp WMFSEliFollower.esp lwbWitch.esp Dezicrah.esp Nemain.esp Nerida.esp Miri_Follower.esp FayeFG.esp RosaFollower.esp DZ08_Melana.esp CSV_Vayne.esp NyrFollowerAssets.esp EOMSIC_YunsolCustomVoiceFollower.esp Cassandra Frost Witch.esp Hermit.esp Toccata.esp AZ_KaydenFollower.esp KKFollowerBalin_F.esp Amara.esp Pearl.esp MBWSAmalia.esp Vivace.esp Chaconne.esp ErynielElfSSE.esp CK_Joylie_Follower.esp Serana.esp 3BBB.esp SOSPhysicsManager.esp FSMPM - The FSMP MCM.esp Ashe - SMP_Hair.esp KS Hairdo's.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp FlowerGirls SE - Adventures.esp Solar.esp FlowerGirls SE - Bathing Beauties Patch.esp FlowerGirls SE - IW Patch.esp FlowerGirls SE - Maids II Deception.esp SMSkyrim - Encounters.esp SMSkyrim - Meshes.esp FlowerGirls SE - Cicero.esp Deadly Wenches.esp Immersive Wenches2 - Flower Girls.esp Immersive Wenches -Enslaved Wenches patch-.esp HearthfireMultiKid.esp DoubleBedsAreForTwoPeople.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp Carry Weight x100.esp run for your lives.esp Facelight.esp Move it Dammit - Less Wait Time and Follow Me Closer.esp LazyTools.esp Easy lockpicking.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp SDA House of Horrors Expansion Patch.esp SDA Sweets and Such Patch.esp Ashe and Serana Banter Patch.esp DBM_IW_Patch.esp Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp DBM_JKSkyrim_Patch.esp DBM_AetheriumWeapons_Patch.esp DBM_SafehousePlus_Addon.esp RDO - USSEP Patch.esp TAWoBA - Light Armor Patch.esp IA CBBE Patch.esp LydiaPatchForLOTD.esp DBM_IA_Patch.esp IDFL_BijinAIO_Patch.esp SDA DX Crimson Blood Patch.esp SDA Lustmord Patch.esp Race Compatiblity - Serana Add-on Dialogue.esp SDA CC Umbra Patch.esp SDA IFD Lydia Patch.esp SDA RDO Patch.esp RDO - FDE Patch.esp ScopedBows_Bijin Patch.esp Aniya Follower - High Poly Head Replacer.esp DoubleBedsVoicePatchSofia.esp DoubleBedsVoicePatchYashira.esp DoubleBedsVoicePatchAmbriel.esp DoubleBedsVoicePatchNerida.esp SDA Remiel Banter Patch.esp SDA-AA Patch.esp FNIS.esp Ā
traison Posted February 21 Posted February 21 How are those torpedoes moving? Static in a global sense: you can move the ragdoll to another room and the tits just stretch out through the door. Static in a local sense: they appear to be at a set offset from one of the spine bones of the ragdoll. Jiggling: they continue to move after the ragdoll has stopped moving. Ā Ā
TerrorDeaths Posted February 21 Author Posted February 21 Not jiggling, if i move the crops it's followed the body. Screen shoot attached. number 1 when i take all the items, number 2 when i move the body, number 3 when i released it any idea how to fix these?
TerrorDeaths Posted February 21 Author Posted February 21 Is it becauseĀ nemesis? any idea how to fix these?
Vortec Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, traison said: That'a skeleton or weightpainting issue. Ā I agree, but in his load order he hasĀ XPMSE.esp, ,Ā CBBE.esp,Ā 3BBB.esp installed. So it should work unless installed wrong, could be load order. I don't see HDT Smp installed though (Yes he does have it installed). Ā Ā No idea whatĀ SOSPhysicsManager.esp does. Ā Ā Going by the screen shots certainly does look like the breast bones,(Skeleton or weight paint)Ā but not theĀ genitals are not affected.Ā Ā I can only suggest re installing your body mod 3BA and see what happens....and make damn sure that nothing overwrites XPMSE- I use MO2 not sure how Vortec works in that regard. Ā Don't use Nemesis use PandoraĀ https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/133232
traison Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, TerrorDeaths said: Is it becauseĀ nemesis? Ā I would like to say no, but there might be a slim chance it could be. I'm not familiar enough with behaviour files to tell. Easy to test though, rebuild your behaviour files with FNIS only. Ā 1 hour ago, TerrorDeaths said: ...any idea how to fix these? Ā Since the skeleton is assigned to the RACE record and not the ARMO/ARMA recordsĀ the curious thing here is that apparently this only affects the nude body. I would start by inspecting the nude body mesh. Make sure the nude armor boob polygons are weightpainted to something (anything). Ā Vortex is another potential issue here. Might be worth doing a clean reinstall of the mods, i.e. if there's a "purge and redeploy" button somewhere, I'd hit that. Also, after purging, inspect your Skyrim Data folder, make sure you don't have any stray files in there. Only the vanilla game files should exist in here when Vortex's hardlinks have been removed. Ā 22 minutes ago, Vortec said: ...in his load order he hasĀ XPMSE.esp, ,Ā CBBE.esp,Ā 3BBB.esp installed. So it should work... Ā Load order of files can be something completely different from plugins. Also, we do not know if the mod that's providing 3BBB.esp is a "hat n' shoes" -mod that also contains a modified version of the XP32 skeleton where the tit bones have been given new names. Ā 22 minutes ago, Vortec said: Don't use Nemesis use Pandora... Ā ...but be aware that Pandora is WIP, (still) has at least a few CTD causing issues and that you should keep FNIS installed while using it. Edited February 21 by traison
TerrorDeaths Posted February 22 Author Posted February 22 8 hours ago, traison said: ...but be aware that Pandora is WIP, (still) has at least a few CTD causing issues and that you should keep FNIS installed while using it. i already remove fnis, because some said/googling nemesis incompatible with fnis and with the latest nemesis it's provide fnis.esp file for compatibility with any mods with fnis dependency if not mistakenĀ Ā Ā 8 hours ago, traison said: Vortex is another potential issue here. Might be worth doing a clean reinstall of the mods, i.e. if there's a "purge and redeploy" button somewhere, I'd hit that. Also, after purging, inspect your Skyrim Data folder, make sure you don't have any stray files in there. Only the vanilla game files should exist in here when Vortex's hardlinks have been removed. okay i try do that, in vortex there a option for purge mods Ā 8 hours ago, Vortec said: Don't use Nemesis use PandoraĀ https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/133232 ya while googling some said it's better but idk how much backward compatible so I didn't try it Ā Ā 8 hours ago, Vortec said: I can only suggest re installing your body mod 3BA and see what happens....and make damn sure that nothing overwrites XPMSE- I use MO2 not sure how Vortec works in that regard. i already try to managed the load order like these I used to used mo2 before se / try it, I think vortex much better if the mods have updated/need update if I remember correctlyĀ
TerrorDeaths Posted February 22 Author Posted February 22 after purge the mods, and redeploy, run nemesis then body slide then nemesis again. new game still the same
traison Posted February 22 Posted February 22 6 hours ago, TerrorDeaths said: i already try to managed the load order like these ... after purge the mods, and redeploy, run nemesis then body slide then nemesis again. new game still the same Ā "Load ECE after XP32 Any version" Ā 17 hours ago, traison said: That'a skeleton or weightpainting issue. Ā How about not loading ECE after XP32.
Grey Cloud Posted February 22 Posted February 22 8 hours ago, TerrorDeaths said: but idk how much backward compatible so I didn't try it Perhaps if you read the mod's description page . . .
TerrorDeaths Posted February 22 Author Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said: Perhaps if you read the mod's description page . . . have you try it? i read some of the post in forum it's crash a lot i think (several people post it with different condition). Ā Ā 3 hours ago, traison said: How about not loading ECE after XP32. okay i try it, it's working bloody hell -Ā my badĀ š @traisonĀ thx broĀ š
Grey Cloud Posted February 22 Posted February 22 2 hours ago, TerrorDeaths said: have you try it? Pandora? Yes, I've been using it for around two years.
TerrorDeaths Posted February 22 Author Posted February 22 35 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: Pandora? Yes, I've been using it for around two years. the load order more or less the same with nemesis? is there a mod that you use withĀ fnis/nemesisĀ dependency, is it working fine or need a specific config?
Grey Cloud Posted February 22 Posted February 22 3 hours ago, TerrorDeaths said: the load order more or less the same with nemesis? is there a mod that you use withĀ fnis/nemesisĀ dependency, is it working fine or need a specific config? Never used Nemesis but Pandora went where I put it and hasn't complained. All the usual suspects from this site which 'require' FNIS work just the same with Pandora. No tinkering/tweaking/tuning needed. I have Precision installed which has Nemesis as an 'optional requirement'. Not that impressed by Precision but can't say it's because of Pandora. I'm shit at combat - more a pimping and skooma-dealing kind of guy. Ā Pandora still in beta so it isn't going to be 100% but I've not had any problems with it - the problems with DD and Zaz didn't affect me as I don't use them. The problem with draugr I read about in the posts on Nexus before I upgraded so I just waited for the next update. Ā Ā
TerrorDeaths Posted February 23 Author Posted February 23 4 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: The problem with draugr I read about in the posts on Nexus before I upgraded so I just waited for the next update. Ok thx for the infoĀ šĀ maybe later i try it.
traison Posted February 23 Posted February 23 9 minutes ago, TerrorDeaths said: Ok thx for the infoĀ šĀ maybe later i try it. Ā Draugrs were fixed long ago. Same with canines. As far as I know the remaining issues in Pandora are as follows: ZaZ? At least used to be a problem. Crash in Helgen intro. Use Alternate Start like everyone else to get around this. Random crash inĀ BSScript::Internal::VirtualMachine pointing to a Hazard object. Two random crashesĀ inĀ hkpRigidBody. Random crash inĀ BShkbAnimationGraph. So personally that was too much crashing for me. I went back to FNIS. But on the other hand, I ran for about half a year on Pandora before it one day decided to go into a crash frenzy; 7 unique crashes in one hour I think it was, probably my personal record. Ā To put that another way, if you're a player who needs Nemesis I'd recommend you try Pandora instead. Skip the Helgen intro with a mod, and keep FNIS installed for when you need to check whether you're crashing because of Pandora or something else. You also need FNIS for its scripts anyways. If it doesn't work or is too unstable for you, then FNIS-it-up. Ā The worrying thing about Pandora is that canines for instance were fixed like 2 or 3 times. The Helgen intro crash has been fixed several times as well. Canines they finally got right, but Helgen is still broken. Development also seems *very* slow. I'm not saying mapping out unknown binary formats is simple, I've made myself specialized tools for this task since none existed before... but FNIS and Nemesis figured this out years ago. Maybe they were cutting corners, or perhaps Pandora is doing something no one else has done before. Either way, slow development and fixes to fix the previous fixes usually points to spaghetti code which eventually always leads to a bad result: abandoned projects and buggy software. Ā Speaking of abandoned projects; Nemesis rewrite has been (at least) 4 years in development now.
TerrorDeaths Posted February 23 Author Posted February 23 13 hours ago, traison said: Either way, slow development and fixes to fix the previous fixes usually points to spaghetti code which eventually always leads to a bad result: abandoned projects and buggy software. Ā Speaking of abandoned projects; Nemesis rewrite has been (at least) 4 years in development now. yeah nemesis most likely abandoned. btw after fixing these/or because i progress the quest. sometimes when loading save it's crashed my game. first time loading from the first run the skyrim - never crash after playing for a while sometimes it's crashed when loading save any idea how to check these?
traison Posted February 23 Posted February 23 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/59818
TerrorDeaths Posted February 24 Author Posted February 24 20 hours ago, traison said: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/59818 ok i will try it, but currently something wrong with nexus i think can't download by vortex/manual blank page at below 'files' after download button
TerrorDeaths Posted February 28 Author Posted February 28 ok i already installed it, but the crashed didn't have log i think? and only around Riverwood i think, fromĀ my deduction
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