Not-So-Simple Defeat (formerly Simplest Defeat)

[John Calumnus]

Not-So-Simple Defeat (formerly Simplest Defeat)

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Not So Simple Defeat
Now with too much error-handling!
 

Out of respect for those with objections, I feel obligated to inform you that artificial intelligence coding agents were used extensively in this mod's development. If you have a moral or trust issue with such mods, pass on by. (If you read the description you can see I understand how the mod works, and if you look at the files all source code is included for your inspection.)
 

- The concept is simple. You go down, you have sex, you (optionally) have shit taken from you, all followers disappear, you wake up somewhere else.
- The execution isn't. I needed over 2,000 lines of code just to make sure scenes go off without a hitch.

- Options available for stripping: everything carried, everything worn, everything, just gold, nothing.

- Only one tiny script tracking combat hits to pick the aggressor. Three more scripts which do NOT rely on Aroused and only run during a scene. 

- ESPFE so it doesn't take up a slot in your load order. Can be added on a current save.

- Original SexLab or SexLab P+ compatibility.

 

MANDATORY REQUIREMENTS

 

- Acheron, from Nexus

- Option: Original SexLab, SexLab Animations, and SexLab Animation Loader (don't forget to Register your animations - most common user error)

- Option: SexLab P+, SexLab Animations, and PROPERLY TAGGED SLSB Conversions for those animations
- PapyrusUtil, the one that comes with SexLab is not enough

- po3's Papyrus Extender, for the Quest Items function

OPTIONAL REQUIREMENTS

- Creature Framework if you enable Creature Defeat in Acheron
- More Nasty Critters if you enable Creature Defeat in Acheron

RECOMMENDED MODS

 

- BakaFactory's ABC for better beast jigglies

 

OPTIONAL SUPPORTED MODS

 

- Nether's Follower Framework, will also dismiss all followers from this mod

- Interesting NPC's, same deal

POSSIBLE ADDONS FOR "IMMERSION"

- Spectator Crowds Ultra Edition, because this mod has no spectators. 
- Procedural Penis Animations (PPA) so the dong always finds a hole.
- HentaiRim or SL OVE for dirty talk and hotter sex sounds during scenes.
- Alignment jsons for crappy but over-the-top animations like FunnyBiz. If you know where to find these let me know!
- Sexy Adventures (or any mod where you get assaulted when nude), a nice little horny penalty for getting stripped.
- Extra hilarity: The above will play in between follower scenes if you're walking around watching!
- SlaveTats / RapeTats / FadeTats combo (plus your chosen tats of course), for slutmarks after you get taken advantage of.
- The new variants (FastTats, SlaveTats NG) are currently incomplete, the original is slow-w-w but works great.
- SexLab cum texture replacer if you want progressive bukkake style. I recommend Quite the Sperm Replacer personally.
- SexLab Solutions to solve quests from your newfound sluttiness.
- SexLab Confabulation to do fuck quests with non-humanoids.
- These alone are a pretty fucking horny setup!

 

INCOMPATIBILITIES

- Anything that takes over death and Bleedout is incompatible. This includes other Defeat mods, if left unconfigured.

- There are exceptions -- if you use this in combination with other Acheron plugins, you can "weight" them appropriately, and Acheron will shuffle between. 

- Mods with a wide variety of functions such as Cursed Loot SHOULD be compatible IF all "Bleedout" functions can be CLEANLY AND COMPLETELY DISABLED. 

 

KNOWN ISSUES
 

- This mod is very picky about the Acheron options.
- For Follower Defeats, mid-combat must be at 100%, and follower defeat must be enabled. NPC defeat does NOT need to be.
- You can defeat the follower at the same time as the player or have them fight for you, the mod accounts for both.
- You will stand up unable to fight while follower scenes play. This is normal. Allow everything to finish or something may get stuck.
- The teleport can sometimes kill you if the fallback health value is anything above 0%. Be careful of that.
- I might make the teleport further away at some point, like my Acheron Fallback mod.

 

TECHNICAL CONSIDERATIONS
 

- Papyrus logs keep you informed of the progress of the scene and any errors.

- Debug logging reports on everything the mod does to an insane level of detail.

- Submit the logs with debug enabled if you have problems.
- Do NOT keep debug logging or Papyrus logging enabled for normal play! The mod spams the log, so it will be slow as hell!

 

TROUBLESHOOTING

- Don't forget to enable your SexLab animations in SLAL. 

- Don't forget to set your Acheron MCM settings. Consult the end of this document.

- Refer to changelog for details.

 

ROADMAP

 

- Link teleport function to QuickPort limited to Skyrim Overworld

- Add patches for popular Super Followers for functional dismissal

- Open to modest feature requests. 

 

SUPPORT

 

- You can either drop a line here or stop by Scrab's Discord which is linked from the Acheron page. 

TIPS FOR CUSTOMIZATION

- Included is a special ESX file which is basically just a TXT version of the ESP. Good AI models are great at editing these, so with a PAID MODEL and a PROPER CODING HARNESS and DEVELOPER PLUGINS feel free to remake this mod however you wish and post it wherever you wish. You have to compile the scripts with the CK and convert the ESX back to ESP with BethKit though.

THANKS

 

- Scrab, Ponzi, and now krzp for all the professionalism they have brought to defeat mods. This mod "borrows" heavily from Acheron and Practical Defeat.

 

DESCRIPTION OF THE OPTIONS

STRIPPING 

- All that can be carried: weapons, shields, torches, etc.

- All that can be worn: Anything in normal body armor slots

- Everything: all items

- Gold: Just gold

MAX AGGRESSORS:
- Max number who can assault. Final number decided randomly.

GANGBANG MODE!!
- Tries to grab the most people / creatures possible to assault you every time.
MAX AGGRESSIONS:
Maximum number of times you can be assaulted.
CHANCE THE AGGRESSION WILL STOP:
Percentage chance each assault that Max Aggressions is bailed out early.

DISMISS FOLLOWERS:
Vanilla Followers are dismissed after you teleport. So are those from Nether and 3DNPC.
WAIT ON FOLLOWERS:
FOLLOWER FALLBACK TIMER:
How long to wait before rescuing the follower automatically.
FOLLOWER DEFEAT SCENES:
Followers will get struggle snuggled along with you.

TELEPORT:
Teleports you away from the assault by a couple cells, if you were assaulted. Kinda janky.
DEBUG LOGGING:
A ridiculous amount of information goes to the Papyrus log so I can find out exactly what went wrong, when it does.

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• Submitter
  John Calumnus
• Submitted
  01/16/26
• Category
  Combat Sex
• Requirements
  Acheron - from Nexus
  SexLab - of course
  SexLab animations - human, creature, any type
• Regular Edition Compatible
  No
• Install Instructions

 

[semper_solus]

Nice... now if only i could get something this reliable exclusively for Followers and NPCs then i wouldnt have to try and juggle 3 'defeat' type mods at once

[Commander_]

Very nice. Most SL mods suffer from feature creep, in my opinion. We need more mods with this mindset: do one thing, but do it well.

Thank you for sharing. 

[Plaguetard2.0]

- ESPFE so it doesn't take up a slot in your load order. Can be added on a current save.

 

Are we suppose to do this ourselves? Just downloaded to try and it is an esp, not espfe

[Plaguetard2.0]

1 hour ago, Commander_ said:

Very nice. Most SL mods suffer from feature creep, in my opinion. We need more mods with this mindset: do one thing, but do it well.

Thank you for sharing. 

Preach! While I appreciate all the work that goes into so many mods... I also find I am going through trying to turn off half the features of this one because they are covered elsewhere and very seem just focused on one thing anymore

[Guest]

On 1/19/2026 at 8:21 PM, Plaguetard2.0 said:

- ESPFE so it doesn't take up a slot in your load order. Can be added on a current save.

 

Are we suppose to do this ourselves? Just downloaded to try and it is an esp, not espfe

The plugin is ready to be used as ESP-L. You can enable that feature yourself using Wrye Bash, xEdit, or Vortex.

[Edzio]

An optional 'take all gold without items' would be cool. Simpler Simplest Defeat.

[John Calumnus]

Lol! The Follower dismissal function was actually fucked, but nobody noticed, because who needs those buttmunches right?! 

Anyway I had to fix caco-bot's bullshit myself by referring to an old mod called ODefeat. 

This mod will now dismiss any and all followers from the vanilla game, Nether, or Interesting NPC's.

 

No way you're getting out of your Walk of Shame, babe!

Edited February 5 by John Calumnus

[bubba999]

The one thing keeping me from trying is the items gone for good. I'd rather equip backup gear and go back and get my stuff. Hope you change your mind about that.

[Krazyone]

Nice for a Hardcore Play-through, any mistake is poverty. No Gold, no Clothes, no Weapons, no Food, no Potions.

 

Run back to your Horse, or Home for supplies. But there is no revenge, as your gear is gone permanently.

 

Freeze to death naked, after robbery.

Running around Naked, gets you accosted by rapists, or horny animals.

No defence, as you most likely get robbed again.

 

No Breezehome, or Horse, as you'll most likely be too poor for such things. Especially if you have nude rape mods installed.

 

If you use Licence mods, you are  going to be no more than a naked beggar. With nowhere to store your belongings, as they get stolen out of your stash bags.

 

If you use a slavery mod, you wont be having Followers, unless you want to be their slave.

 

 

It sounds like a lot of fun... 

Edited February 5 by Krazyone

[John Calumnus]

3 hours ago, bubba999 said:

The one thing keeping me from trying is the items gone for good. I'd rather equip backup gear and go back and get my stuff. Hope you change your mind about that.

 

I might add a toggle for all gold, all items or nothing but I'd really rather not to. This is meant to be used in a power fantasy modlist where you can destroy dudes naked, only it's harder.

[John Calumnus]

Gangbangs weren't working so now it's always gangbangs. Creatures too. It always picks the max of 4 if they are around so be sure to have some crazy animations. Don't worry if you're not into the whole creatures deal it will just silently fail, steal and teleport.

Also flagged it ESL which I lied about before.

[Edzio]

1 hour ago, John Calumnus said:

 

I might add a toggle for all gold, all items or nothing but I'd really rather not to. This is meant to be used in a power fantasy modlist where you can destroy dudes naked, only it's harder.

I'd be very happy to have a toggle for that as well. All gold gone is manageable and can be paired with prostitution mod to compliment it. But all item can lock some quest because some modded quests does not make an item quest item so it will be gone as well. 😭😭

[John Calumnus]

53 minutes ago, Edzio said:

I'd be very happy to have a toggle for that as well. All gold gone is manageable and can be paired with prostitution mod to compliment it. But all item can lock some quest because some modded quests does not make an item quest item so it will be gone as well. 😭😭

 

Missives is one of them. Literally just ran into that problem while testing. Time to fire up caco-bot I guess.

[weavergx]

I'm receiving these console command error messages:
 

I only have the bare minimum mods activated + I have the prerequisite acheron settings set-up. 

 

Edited February 24 by weavergx
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[iraido]

Been wanting a super simple defeat mod for a while so thanks a lot for this, but i would really like a "no items taken" option tbh. Gold taken is alright and punishing enough imo. 

[chevalierx]

Bool Property StripAllItems = true Auto Hidden  , just compile this with "false"  it in script source 

xml for Acheron for human file  have strip items and can be edited 

 

have good day

[chevalierx]

On 2/5/2026 at 9:58 AM, John Calumnus said:

 

Missives is one of them. Literally just ran into that problem while testing. Time to fire up caco-bot I guess.

Bool Property StripAllItems = true Auto Hidden  , just compile this with "false"  it in script source 

xml for Acheron for human file  have strip items and can be edited 

why not add ini file that can edit varaibles so that make easy for people to use what they like 

 

[John Calumnus]

10 hours ago, chevalierx said:

Bool Property StripAllItems = true Auto Hidden  , just compile this with "false"  it in script source 

xml for Acheron for human file  have strip items and can be edited 

why not add ini file that can edit varaibles so that make easy for people to use what they like 

 

I plan on working on this some soon. I don't like MCMs with too many options, so there will probably be three toggles: strip gold, strip gear, strip items (non-gear). Everything is taken from one of the toggles, except for quest items of course.

[chevalierx]

On 6/24/2026 at 6:28 PM, John Calumnus said:

I plan on working on this some soon. I don't like MCMs with too many options, so there will probably be three toggles: strip gold, strip gear, strip items (non-gear). Everything is taken from one of the toggles, except for quest items of course.

i ask for ini cfg ( where you can put them  1 or 0) file that can be read or stored in skse folder  that all , i hate mcm too 

have good day 

[devilhands27]

On 2/24/2026 at 12:23 AM, weavergx said:

I'm receiving these console command error messages:
 

I only have the bare minimum mods activated + I have the prerequisite acheron settings set-up. 

 

I am also having this error sometimes, like this happens and my character get up and the fight resume with me getting hit again and because my HP is low the scene tey to trigger again. After some atempts the scene start normaly. Appear to be random.

[John Calumnus]

Yes, sometimes my code fails to collect the Aggressors Acheron needs and it does indeed appear to be random and based on how many attackers are around (more script delay). I probably need to space out the code interacts to let the engine and AI catch up, which sucks, because I was so happy with how fast it was. Just don't expect quick updates, I'm not as sharp as I used to be.

[John Calumnus]

2 hours ago, BendaB said:

Does this mod lack NPC vs. NPC gameplay?
Do followers get harassed when they lose and harassed when they win?

Not currently. Handling the player and all the aggressors is tricky enough. I'll add this later but the mod will be less reliable. For a rock solid defeat mod that never fails, 1.6 is probably best, as it also adds the option to turn off robbery. 1.8 lets you pick the number of aggressors. 1.9.1 lets you pick the number of aggressions. Each newly added feature is another way it can fail, so use your judgment.

I expect handling NPC's to be a complete clusterfuck unless I can pull something out of my ass.

[urnotsupposedtobehere]

whats the difference between this mod and practical defeat (reanimated)? I think that its mostly the same but better somehow

[John Calumnus]

14 hours ago, urnotsupposedtobehere said:

whats the difference between this mod and practical defeat (reanimated)? I think that its mostly the same but better somehow

Good eye. Practical Defeat is my favorite defeat mod of all time, until I made this one, and since the permissions are open and the author retired, this mod used that one as inspiration. I just took out a lot of extra stuff like the dialog and quests and added creatures so its much easier to interact with.