alternate start Alternate Perspective - In the Midden

[Nsnare]

53 minutes ago, lktforever said:

I've completed Blood on Ice quest then sleep in the inn. For some reason it triggers not always on first sleep. Just do it few times in a row (only in Windhelm)

Thx for the info. I wasnt sure if completing the quest was a mistake. With the murderer being dead and all. 

[jbezorg]

6 hours ago, Nsnare said:

Thx for the info. I wasnt sure if completing the quest was a mistake. With the murderer being dead and all. 

Calixto's death triggers the follow-up quest. There's a cumulative chance when sleeping in sleeping in Whindhelm.

To end it....
 

Spoiler

You have to kill Wulfharth.

 

Edited September 28 by jbezorg

[Nsnare]

2 hours ago, jbezorg said:

Calixto's death triggers the follow-up quest. There's a cumulative chance when sleeping in sleeping in Whindhelm.

To end it....
 

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You have to kill Wulfharth.

 

Thx all the info is useful, since he didnt want to die. Was in the essential bleedout stage like 3 times ebfore he fell

[Nsnare]

Thx all. I managed to trigger it after sleeping 7 times  was kinda funny since i have wulf as my friend, weird stuff happened

[IcicleInn]

First of all the Sybille scenario does work pretty well as a leash proof of concept, though I'd love to see what details you're planning on adding.

 

Secondly though there may have been a small bug introduced, as when she came to take me on a walk, ,there was some items not equipped right and an extra leash I had to manually unequip.  Something to do with the invicta leash and the chain leash equipping at the same time

 

Also on sunrise instead of taking me back to castle dour sybille just went to bed but it looks like those are both bugs you've found already

Edited September 30 by IcicleInn

[jbezorg]

7 hours ago, IcicleInn said:

First of all the Sybille scenario does work pretty well as a leash proof of concept, though I'd love to see what details you're planning on adding.

 

Secondly though there may have been a small bug introduced, as when she came to take me on a walk, ,there was some items not equipped right and an extra leash I had to manually unequip.  Something to do with the invicta leash and the chain leash equipping at the same time

 

Also on sunrise instead of taking me back to castle dour sybille just went to bed but it looks like those are both bugs you've found already

Leash Framework went from v1.1.3 to v1.1.5 v1.1.6 from when I started this. My guess Zaria's Lore Friendly Toys needs to catch up.

Edited September 30 by jbezorg

[IcicleInn]

Other minor items: Noticed in the latest version of the mod there's a QM - Blood on Ice - Nilsine Mage file.  Does this add additional things to the blood on ice quests?

 

AP - Chattel and AP - Milk and Honey both work as far as spawning me in, though I've not been able to do anything except get caught trying to get out in Milk and Honey.  Glancing at the esp, it looks like you're supposed to have a daily schedule for?

 

AP - Farmer Bound doesn't do anything except play a couple of journal quests, maybe start spinning the camera, and then kicks me into the AP inn with this message:

Spoiler

 

[jbezorg]

9 hours ago, IcicleInn said:

QM - Blood on Ice - Nilsine Mage

 

Nilsine becomes a potential companion and changes her class to mage.
 

9 hours ago, IcicleInn said:

AP - Chattel and AP - Milk and Honey

They should follow a sleep schedule from midnight to 7am. Sneak out while they're sleeping.
 

 

9 hours ago, IcicleInn said:

AP - Farmer Bound

First. Do you have the DLC it's designed for? ccVSVSSE004_RestoreFarmQuest
I'll check why the quests are not starting.

Edited October 2 by jbezorg

[JayMartin]

Even though you are working on other scenarios, which is very nice and have tried all of them (farm doesn't work for some reason for me but I'm pretty sure it's on my end), I would like to add that it would be fun to have the dwemer device be accessible after normal completion of the Nimhe spider. Of course instead of this time being annoying to Calcelmo and ending up his soul gem factory, you "accidentally" get trapped instead. He did warn you to be careful around the models.

[jbezorg]

3 hours ago, JayMartin said:

Even though you are working on other scenarios, which is very nice and have tried all of them (farm doesn't work for some reason for me but I'm pretty sure it's on my end), I would like to add that it would be fun to have the dwemer device be accessible after normal completion of the Nimhe spider. Of course instead of this time being annoying to Calcelmo and ending up his soul gem factory, you "accidentally" get trapped instead. He did warn you to be careful around the models.

I thought about the dwemer device being equipped when the player enters the sould gem factory but I couldn't get the player aligned correctly because of the high heel effect.

The farmer's quest is failing for me as well. Quests are not starting because aliases are not being filled. Trying to find out why.

[IcicleInn]

I just tried some of the alternate starts that weren't there before the last time I updated this mod.  No Escape! for college of whispers feels slightly buggy:  captor chain-casts vibration spells.  If it's intended behavior then maybe there's some way to get them to wait between casts instead of just cast-cast-cast-cast.  That said the concept is really cool and uh, pretty difficult to escape as the titles says.

 

Not sure if it's the nature of how I was testing, but I went *back* to the college I was captured immediately again.

[sinola]

I realized that my screenshot proably are not very helpfull, so i deleten them  i have attachtet the logs i have, My Problem is. I cant seem to get the Bound family thing to run. I bought farming DLC (Shame on me i know i know).its loaded and its running. But everytime i try to use this start i walk into the door  i get a black screen with the hud activ game still running ,the quest for the plantage starts and finish itself then the bound quest starts and a few second later its iam stuck i get teleport out directly into the inn in Helge. The strange things is every other Start works fine. Not problems at all. Its is just this start which wont work. Also the QMqeust Blood on ice dont show up i cant start it. I tryed differtent versions of Alternative start (older and the newest), i try changing the load order, reinstalled and so on but nothing seems to work. I play the Skyrim SE version 1.6.1170.0.8, the new update via Steam would break other mods from me (try it)  

crash-2026-10-07-01-32-07.log CrashLogger.log

[JayMartin]

1 hour ago, sinola said:

I realized that my screenshot proably are not very helpfull, so i deleten them  i have attachtet the logs i have, My Problem is. I cant seem to get the Bound family thing to run. I bought farming DLC (Shame on me i know i know).its loaded and its running. But everytime i try to use this start i walk into the door  i get a black screen with the hud activ game still running ,the quest for the plantage starts and finish itself then the bound quest starts and a few second later its iam stuck i get teleport out directly into the inn in Helge. The strange things is every other Start works fine. Not problems at all. Its is just this start which wont work. Also the QMqeust Blood on ice dont show up i cant start it. I tryed differtent versions of Alternative start (older and the newest), i try changing the load order, reinstalled and so on but nothing seems to work. I play the Skyrim SE version 1.6.1170.0.8, the new update via Steam would break other mods from me (try it)  

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He's on the case.

[sinola]

1 hour ago, JayMartin said:

 

He's on the case.

Yes I had read it I thought maybe may crashlogs are helpfuller then my screenshots so I provided them so he maybe find something in there as clue why it happen :). 

[jbezorg]

9 hours ago, sinola said:

Yes I had read it I thought maybe may crashlogs are helpfuller then my screenshots so I provided them so he maybe find something in there as clue why it happen :). 

looks like a scripted DD item trying to animate a deleted character or the character was deleted during an animation. I'll have to make sure not to add DD items if the parents are dead option is chosen.

[sinola]

3 hours ago, jbezorg said:

looks like a scripted DD item trying to animate a deleted character or the character was deleted during an animation. I'll have to make sure not to add DD items if the parents are dead option is chosen.

Any idea why the QM quest dosent show up :)? Don't worry if this is not on priority list at the moment