New Game Decisions

[Guest]

My last game on my stupidly large most list reached level 75.  Using seasons, dyndolod, LL mods, lovely grass and trees and many other graphics mods.  No blackface npcs and crashes were rare and random causes such as an armor mesh that was actually fine.  I had never played so long before on a game.  I want to enhance the prison experience and maybe, maybe try DD mods again like Devious Curses.  I will add armors I want and update mods that need it but nothing else is planned.  As these are not deal breakers, would you chance a stable setup to add more LL mods?   conflicted.

[traison]

You're doing it wrong if you don't break your setup an hour after declaring it complete and flawless. I know, I've been at this for 14 years, chasing my Perfect Skyrim™.

 

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with Skyrim. Skyrim made me crazy.

Crazy? I was crazy once. They...

[Guest]

You must love this game so much.  And I know about breaking things.  The temptation is always there to add, change, etc. but......I'm afraid of contracting restartitis.  I hear it's incurable.   Regardless, I'll delete the post when I get back home.  Your funny response made me realize how silly it was.   🥰 

[traison]

Seriously though, if you're on MO2, create a new profile and mod away. I do this every time I do radical changes, but I don't think I've ever gone back (edit: I mean I have, but I really can't recall any such sitation), even if I've encountered issues that have taken months to fix. Just keep in mind that if you remove a mod, it will disappear from all profiles. I imagine Vortex might be capable of doing something similar.

 

If by restartitis you mean playing a character for 2 hours then restarting to do something else then yes I'm in that wheel too, been here for years. I think that's one of the strengths of Skyrim though, there's nothing that says you have to be the Dragonborn. Sometimes I spawn in Falkreath and roam the forests. Sometimes I'm an alchemist in Morthal's swamps. Sometimes I'm a sneaky ninja sniping bandits around Whiterun.

Edited October 28, 2025 by traison

[jfraser]

there is nothing silly about this post, it is a fair question.

 

for the answer, i have a question for you: are you planning on adding things to your level 75 game or do you mean for a fresh new game?

[Guest]

21 minutes ago, jfraser said:

there is nothing silly about this post, it is a fair question.

 

for the answer, i have a question for you: are you planning on adding things to your level 75 game or do you mean for a fresh new game?

It would be a new game.  I only add armors mid-game.  

Edit:  maybe texture upgrades, bug fix mods without an esp.  

Edited October 28, 2025 by TFor2
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[jfraser]

then you should be fine. What is your concern?

[Guest]

My concern is that I cannot know if that one extra mod will destroy a modlist and a playthrough.  I've tried and stopped so many times testing things and when I finally get to a good place, I want to try and add more.  I'm basically upset because I can't stop trying to tweak every aspect of my game.  For example, I swore off DD mods but want to try again.  Sweet of you to want to help but I think it is up to me to evaluate and then test.   It was an emotional question anyway.  NO need to respond anymore.  Modding is what it is but so frustrating sometimes.  🥰

[jfraser]

Oh, yeah. As the other person said, that is the big challenge. I have had Skyrim for all these years and STILL have never finished the main storyline because I keep getting distracted by mods and therefore have to keep starting over.

 

We only pretend we play Skyrim - modding Skyrim is the true game.  XD

 

All that said, you should still be fine to add DD (Kimy is amazing and does a great job keeping it up to date) and most other LL mods. Just be wary of partially built old abandoned ones. Glance through the comment sections to see what people are saying/asking - very often, you can find patches and updates posted in them.

[belegost]

11 hours ago, TFor2 said:

would you chance a stable setup to add more LL mods?  

Why is this a question, not a statement?

 

3 hours ago, jfraser said:

We only pretend we play Skyrim

I don't play Skyrim. I play Fantasy Porn Simulator.

Edited October 29, 2025 by belegost

[Miauzi]

Vor 16 Stunden schrieb TFor2:

Mein letztes Spiel auf meiner endlos langen Liste erreichte Level 75. Ich nutzte Seasons, Dyndolod, LL-Mods, Lovely Grass and Trees und viele weitere Grafik-Mods. Es gab keine Blackface-NPCs, und Abstürze waren selten und hatten zufällige Ursachen, wie zum Beispiel ein Rüstungsmodell, das eigentlich in Ordnung war. Ich habe noch nie so lange an einem Spiel gespielt. Ich möchte das Gefängniserlebnis verbessern und vielleicht, nur vielleicht, DD-Mods wie Devious Curses wieder ausprobieren. Ich werde Rüstungen hinzufügen, die ich haben möchte, und Mods aktualisieren, die es brauchen, aber sonst ist nichts geplant. Da das alles keine K.O.-Kriterien sind, würdest du riskieren, ein stabiles System zu nutzen, um weitere LL-Mods hinzuzufügen? im Konflikt.

 

Oh yeah - only level 75 and already complaining when a new mod throws you the question:

Should I forgo the mod and keep my save file... or risk losing it because the mod description says -> Mod requires restart

???

 

Well, that's modding for you... and it's nothing special for Skyrim.

 

With LL mods, you should also read the mod description or the corresponding service thread... not all mods on this site require a restart.

 

Or you could switch to "MO2"... there you can create a test environment using the "Profile" option -> and try out a mod without risk.

 

But actually, you're just thinking out loud right now.

[belegost]

15 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

Or you could switch to "MO2"... there you can create a test environment using the "Profile" option

Profiles are in every modern mod manager, not just MO2.

[Guest]

The comments were helpful.  Thank you.  Perhaps this was not the correct forum to ask the question but regardless,  I will close the discussion to frame the original thought better.  

 

I think there is a difference between "playing" a game and "living" a game.  When you live the game, you experience feelings and emotions.  I will cry, feel disgust, experience anquish and even fear.  I live through those emotions for the true rewards of this game:  Love, acceptance, desire, being desired, friendship, caring, and compassion.   It's not about defeat or win, gain or loss.  It's about feeling.  It's about emotion.  For some, this need is an empty cup that cannot be filled.  Always needing more.  Having found stability in my setup that touched these needs and provided that virtual taste, risking it's loss was a decision I struggled with. 

 

[Miauzi]

Vor 31 Minuten schrieb TFor2:

Ich glaube, es gibt einen Unterschied zwischen einem Spiel „spielen“ und einem Spiel „leben“. Wenn man das Spiel lebt, erlebt man Gefühle und Emotionen. Ich werde weinen, Ekel empfinden, Schmerz und sogar Angst. Ich durchlebe diese Emotionen für die wahren Belohnungen dieses Spiels: Liebe, Akzeptanz, Sehnsucht, begehrt werden, Freundschaft, Fürsorge und Mitgefühl. Es geht nicht um Niederlage oder Sieg, Gewinn oder Verlust. Es geht ums Fühlen. Es geht um Emotionen. Für manche ist dieses Bedürfnis wie ein leerer Becher, der sich nicht füllen lässt. Sie brauchen immer mehr. Nachdem ich in meinem Umfeld Stabilität gefunden hatte, die diese Bedürfnisse befriedigte und mir diesen virtuellen Vorgeschmack bot, fiel mir die Entscheidung, diesen Verlust zu riskieren, schwer. 

 

 

Their misconception is that only one or the other can exist at the same time—that users only have one or the other intention when it comes to engaging with the game and modding.

They're overlooking something:

People like me can do both simultaneously—in fact, we go beyond what they've listed—we create our own stories using a modded Skyrim and share them with the community (via the blog section).

There are even users who create their own mods to visually "bring their stories to life"!

 

To make this work work, we have to do a lot of testing... but at the same time, we remain (mentally) in our own Skyrim universe to continue developing the story.

[traison]

41 minutes ago, TFor2 said:

I think there is a difference between "playing" a game and "living" a game.

 

Instead of considering additional mods, you should perhaps be look into protecting your Skyrim install from the platform(s) it's running on:

• Steam can update the game any second, breaking current mods.
• Steam can revoke your license to the game effective immediately, and in more than one way.
• (GOG) Galaxy can presumably do what Steam is doing, but I'm not sure to what degree they partake in anti-consumerism.
• Windows is increasing their built-in spyware and ransomware. If you want to be safe in the future, you should already be on your way to Linux.
• Microsoft has been looking for an excuse to make Windows a SaaS product for a decade - you pay $30 a month for the right to use YOUR computer.

Me personally I've prepared for all of these, and I don't think I'm as invested in Skyrim as you are. A cracked exe and/or the ability to dual-boot into Ubuntu goes a long way in solving most of this. I slept better when I saw that not only did Skyrim run fully modded without Windows and Steam, it actually ran with a much higher fps.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Miauzi said:

 

Their misconception is that only one or the other can exist at the same time—that users only have one or the other intention when it comes to engaging with the game and modding.

They're overlooking something:

People like me can do both simultaneously—in fact, we go beyond what they've listed—we create our own stories using a modded Skyrim and share them with the community (via the blog section).

There are even users who create their own mods to visually "bring their stories to life"!

 

To make this work work, we have to do a lot of testing... but at the same time, we remain (mentally) in our own Skyrim universe to continue developing the story.

💖

[Guest]

3 hours ago, traison said:

 

Instead of considering additional mods, you should perhaps be look into protecting your Skyrim install from the platform(s) it's running on:

• Steam can update the game any second, breaking current mods.
• Steam can revoke your license to the game effective immediately, and in more than one way.
• (GOG) Galaxy can presumably do what Steam is doing, but I'm not sure to what degree they partake in anti-consumerism.
• Windows is increasing their built-in spyware and ransomware. If you want to be safe in the future, you should already be on your way to Linux.
• Microsoft has been looking for an excuse to make Windows a SaaS product for a decade - you pay $30 a month for the right to use YOUR computer.

Me personally I've prepared for all of these, and I don't think I'm as invested in Skyrim as you are. A cracked exe and/or the ability to dual-boot into Ubuntu goes a long way in solving most of this. I slept better when I saw that not only did Skyrim run fully modded without Windows and Steam, it actually ran with a much higher fps.

I can be a true blonde about some things and this is one of those occasions.  I understood Steam, Windows, and Microsoft.  The rest is unknown but believe that I understand the significance of  your message.  I will begin looking further towards securing my Skyrim.  I absolutely did not know that was possible.  A friend helped me block #1.  The rest will come with learning now that I know it can be done.    🥰  (I read "cracked egg or a kick in the butt" the first time I read the last sentence and thought you were teasing.)

Edited October 29, 2025 by TFor2

[shrtjsrtj]

GOG is another game store similar to Steam, it's owned by the people that make The Witcher games and their sales gimmick is no DRM. 

 

Once you download a game you can install it where ever you want, never need to connect to the internet and they can't take the game away from you.

3 hours ago, traison said:

• (GOG) Galaxy can presumably do what Steam is doing, but I'm not sure to what degree they partake in anti-consumerism.

I'd recommend using the offline installers instead. GOG only has the latest version plus maybe a couple of recent releases of a game, AFAICT you can't rollback to ancient versions like you can with Steam.

 

Edited October 29, 2025 by shrtjsrtj

[traison]

13 minutes ago, shrtjsrtj said:

I'd recommend using the offline installers instead.

 

Yes absolutely, and this is why I always check GOG before Steam when purchasing something - it saves me time not having to preserve the Steam version for the future.

 

13 minutes ago, shrtjsrtj said:

...AFAICT you can't rollback to ancient versions like you can with Steam.

 

This feature of Steam is something you shouldn't rely on, i.e. don't assume you can download 1.6.640.0 of Skyrim in 2030 when TES6 has launched (and flopped). If you want this version of the game in the future, you have to keep a local copy of it zipped up on your local storage systems.

[shrtjsrtj]

9 minutes ago, traison said:

This feature of Steam is something you shouldn't rely on

Of course, just pointing it out so if anyone does switch from Steam to GOG, they don't get caught out.

[Guest]

Why I play this game.

[Guest]

Actually, the real reason I play this game.

[traison]

1 hour ago, TFor2 said:

Actually, the real reason I play this game.

 

[Outdoor wrestling match]

 

Trying to distract the guard so that he doesn't see the murder and necromancy in the background? I guess that's one way to do it.

Edited November 26, 2025 by traison

[Guest]

Silly boy. 🥰