block2001 Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 Hey there folks on loverslab its block2001 here again. So previously I had issues with ai overload which has been fixed thanks to the awesome help of the people out there I just want to say thank you once again. Ok but now I have a brand new bag of worms and one that is quite common to many people which is constant oblivion crashing. I for one am extremely pissed off with this because now my game is practically unplayable because of this issue so I am pleading with everyone out there who has more sense than me (which I'm sure is most of you)to help out a fellow gamer... Ok so heres the stats Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 underdark.esm 02 TR_OoT_Main.esm 03 GTAesgaard_2.esm 04 CastleWestWeald.esm 05 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 06 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI] 07 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI] 08 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI] 09 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.35] 0A Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] 0B Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3] 0C Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3] 0D CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm 0E Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35] 0F Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm [Version 3.0b] 10 Lovers with PK.esm 11 TamagoClub.esm 12 HiyokoClub.esm 13 CURP_Controller.esm 14 CM Partners.esm 15 Easy_Companion_Share.esm 16 Toaster Says Share v3.esm 17 x117race.esm 18 Chanpon.esm 19 HorseCombatMaster.esm 1A Sexdarkness.esm 1B ScreenEffects.esm 1C Romance Air.esm 1D Hair Style Master.esm 1E IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esm ** Oblivion Vwalk.esp ** CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack Vwalk.esp 1F Purge Cell Buffers - Cell Change.esp [Version 1.0.0] 20 Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp [Version 1.0.0] 21 TRoN.esp ** TRoN Vwalk.esp 22 DLCShiveringIsles.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS.esp 23 OBGE - Liquid Water.esp 24 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp 25 Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1] 26 _Real_Lights.esp 27 Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp 28 EquipmentConvertor.esp 29 My Voice Extender.esp 2A VipCxj_AirSystem.esp 2B Choices and Consequences.esp [Version 2.02] 2C MyPersonalArmy.esp 2D ScreenControls.esp 2E Streamline 3.1.esp 2F DLCHorseArmor.esp 30 DLCOrrery.esp ** DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp 31 DLCVileLair.esp ++ SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp [Version 1.21] 32 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp ** DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk.esp 33 DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 34 DesuChan's Store.esp 35 Hiyoko_Store.esp 36 AncientTowers.esp ** AncientTowers Vwalk.esp 37 DLCThievesDen.esp ** DLCThievesDen Vwalk.esp 38 Francesco's Optional Files.esp 39 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] ** Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp 3A Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp [Version 2.0] 3B Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3] 3C CurseOfHircine.esp 3D Curse of Hircine - Werewolf Hunters.esp 3E CurseOfHircine - Symphony of Night.esp 3F TIE.esp [Version 1.47] ** TIE Vwalk.esp ++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01] ++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35] 40 Castle Ravenpride.esp [Version 1.01] 41 Trade and Commerce.esp 42 Adaman Fortress.esp 43 Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp 44 BladeSong.esp 45 CastleWestWeald.esp 46 DragonInvasion.esp 47 Dwemer_Skyship_1_1_0.esp 48 DukeCity.esp 49 GDS.esp 4A HentaiLovelyHouse.esp 4B Hentai Mania.esp ** Hentai Mania Vwalk.esp 4C ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp 4D Feudal Empire 300.esp 4E GlenvarCastle.esp ** GlenvarCastle Vwalk.esp 4F Mondstein - female Companion.esp 50 GTAesgaard.esp [Version 1.3] 51 GTAesgaard_2.esp 52 Gates To Aesgaard 2 Delayer.esp [Version 1.0] 53 Reaper's A Friendly Back-Up.esp 54 Rise Of A Samurai.esp 55 Romuska Fantasy Store.esp 56 Side's Sailing Ships.esp [Version 0.93.5] 57 ardah.esp ** ardah Vwalk.esp 58 SunderedKeep.esp ** SunderedKeep Vwalk.esp 59 TheElderCouncil.esp ** TheElderCouncil Vwalk.esp ++ TEC_4ERA_Dialog_Filter.esp 5A Tona's_ModsStore.esp 5B TR_Stirk.esp ** TR_Stirk Vwalk.esp 5C Valenwood Improved.esp [Version 1.01.0] 5D Versus Dark Brotherhood.esp [Version sus] 5E Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp ** Vampire Hunting - Order Of The Virtuous Blood Vwalk.esp 5F Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp 60 Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp 61 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 62 BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp 63 DLCFrostcrag.esp ** DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp 64 Knights.esp ** Knights Vwalk.esp ++ SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.06] 65 TOTF.esp ** TOTF Vwalk.esp ++ TOTF Delayer.esp 66 RTT.esp ** RTT Vwalk.esp 67 SoT_TheOrderofNibenay.esp ** Blood&Mud.esp 68 HoarfrostCastle.esp ** HoarfrostCastle Vwalk.esp 69 MannimarcoComplete.esp 6A MannimarcoRevisited.esp 6B MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp [Version 0.1] 6C DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp [Version 1.0] 6D Tamriel.esp 6E ElsweyrAnequina.esp ** ElsweyrAnequina Vwalk.esp 6F Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp 70 Celestiel - EV.esp 71 Academy.esp 72 TWMP_Valenwood_Elsweyr.esp 73 HentaiMania2.esp ** HentaiMania2 Vwalk.esp ++ HentaiMania2_Merged_Hell.esp 74 From2ch Lives.esp 75 AutoBookPlacer.esp [Version 3.02] 76 CoverYourself.esp 77 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.1] 78 Scouter.esp 79 LoversTamagoClub.esp 7A LoversFSE.esp 7B LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 7C Lovers with PK.esp [Version 90] 7D Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp ++ Sexdarkness.esp 7E ShippingInCyrodiil_Normal_Lights_V1-1 - With Drawbridges.esp 7F VisiblyUnlimited.esp 80 Werewolf-Legends.esp 81 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1] 82 Alternative Beginnings.esp [Version 1.2.5] 83 More Realistic Encumbrance.esp 84 Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 5.5] 85 Unholy Darkness.esp 86 Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp 87 Druid Mod.esp 88 DuplicateItemSpell.esp 89 Friendly Fire.esp [Version 2.02] 8A MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5] 8B MCS extension.esp 8C Mysterious Bear's Epic Necromancy + EM.esp 8D Smite of Order.esp 8E TeachSpell.esp 8F TheKillingMoon.esp 90 SM Spell Leveling.esp [Version 2.00] 91 MidasSpells.esp 92 FearsomeMagicka.esp 93 SM Combat Hide.esp [Version 1.2] 94 RenGuardOverhaul.esp 95 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5] 96 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp 97 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp 98 HumantouchNPC.esp 99 Sneaking Detection Recalibrated.esp [Version 4.0.3] 9A Oblivion XP.esp [Version 4.1.5] 9B SDR Perks And Patches - Oblivion.esp [Version 1.0.2] 9C Toaster's Legendary Skills & Stats.esp [Version 3.44] 9D Toaster's Legendary Mastery.esp [Version 3.44] 9E Seph's new animations.esp 9F actors_in_charge.esp A0 zzEstrus.esp A1 _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp A2 Ayleid Arcane Archer.esp [Version 2.7] A3 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp A4 The Forgotten.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp A5 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Dialog.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp A6 IDKRRR_C_race.esp A7 IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp A8 Sharingan and Uchiha Clan.esp A9 Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp AA Minionz.esp ++ not_recruit_companions.esp AB CM Fireflys Combined Companions.esp AC 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 4] ++ 1em_vilja_RenHair8.esp AD Arren.esp AE Companion Neeshka.esp ** Companion Neeshka Vwalk.esp AF GGValeria2_0.esp B0 Synx.esp B1 RhiannaII.esp B2 Saerileth.esp B3 Sonia.esp ** Sonia Vwalk.esp B4 StokerWolff.esp B5 UnderdarkSaga.esp ** UnderdarkSaga Vwalk.esp ++ CoreRandmonClothing4Npcs.esp B6 CM KvatchDefenders.esp B7 ThrowBlade.esp B8 Fate Stay Night Saber Companion.esp B9 Fate Stay Night Saber Companion_Alter Dark Saber Plugin.esp BA pornaga's Elf Companions.esp BB WnasZhxl.esp BC Marg Lena V2.esp BD Tiefling Races.esp BE Viera-v3.esp BF Viera Partners beta.esp C0 UnlimitedBladeWorks_Fakers.esp C1 FFRace.esp C2 NaturalEnvironments.esp C3 JakesMod.esp C4 Isle of the Blessed.esp C5 FF7 Blades Complete.esp C6 The Initiative.esp C7 Ramy Monster.esp C8 Misellenious Merged 2.esp C9 Jobs and Stuff merged v1.esp CA items and clothing merged v5.esp ++ CSR_xLovers_Patch.esp ++ LAMELoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp ++ F2LMiqoteAddon.esp CB City Life-x117.esp CC From2ch Lives Boss.esp CD F2L_FaceChange.esp CE Ta22's 01Army.esp CF 117NPCs.esp D0 F2LAddon_MSElves.esp D1 F2LHideRaces.esp D2 EURN.esp ++ LoversCreatureVoiceForceEnabler.esp D3 666_Modified_Contraception_esp_1_0.esp ++ UOPSLoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp D4 RA ADD GRV.esp D5 RA Chain Add-on.esp D6 RA Objects.esp D7 Better Looking Redguards v2.esp D8 Companions Merged.esp D9 DarkBloodline.esp DA FutaPriory.esp DB ahtata dremora.esp DC ahtata Ork.esp DD UVII.esp DE GSR_YAWUW.esp DF Bashed Patch, 0.esp E0 MergedMaps.esp E1 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp E2 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp E3 Lovers3dorgasm.esp I'm using obse 20 (the most recent one) Latest OBMM Pluggy Version 132 Wrye Bash 295 Unofficial Oblivion Patch Fast Exit weOCPS 4gb Patch stutter remover Streamline 3.1 disabled autosaves cleaned all dirty mods via TES4Edit I think that's it OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit AMD Phenom™ II X6 1045T Processor (6 CPUs), ~2.7GHz Memory: 8192MB RAM Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GT 430 I seriously thought that my computer would be able to run oblivion noo problem considering it is much better than my old cpu wich ran on XP. even tried yelling at my computer and talking sweet to it too but to no avail...Anyhoo any help would be appreciated you tell me what to do and I'll do it thanks in advance everyone Block2001 Edit- I know I have a whole lotta mods running which may also be a problem (probably is) maybe there are some which i can combine as well idk I'm just speculating here...ok enuff rambling I'll leave it to those that know what they are talking about
Dreamer102 Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 I recently had an issue with my game crashing every 5-30 minutes and I had all of the same core game utilities that you listed. using obse 20 (the most recent one) Latest OBMM Pluggy Version 132 Fast Exit weOCPS 4gb Patch stutter remover Streamline 3.1 disabled autosaves What worked for me was deleting all of my display drivers with a "Driver Cleaner" in safe mode, then reinstalling the latest drivers in normal windows. Then after that, I saved a copy of my load order in OBMM (for restoring order later) and copied my data folder and Saves folder to another location. I then uninstalled Oblivion and rebooted. When I came back into windows-7 I installed oblivion to an alternate game folder location outside of "Program Files" and gave it full permissions/access. One thing you HAVE to watch out for when doing this is you HAVE to go into your "My Documents/my games" folder and delete the "Oblivion" folder! The reason for this is because the uninstall process doesn't delete it and the oblivion.ini contained in that folder will not go along with your new installation of oblivion. The game will crash at startup if you do not delete this folder! After deleting the "My Documents/my games/Oblivion" folder and reinstalling Oblivion, I copied my data folder to my newly located Oblivion folder and reinstalled OBMM, OBSE, TES-CS and BOSS. I then patched the Oblivion.exe with the "ShiveringIsles update 1.2.416" to make sure everything was up to the latest version of the game. After doing all of that and running the launcher, it rescanned my videocard and drivers and set everything on high. Upon starting the game it made it past the initial screens and I could start a new game...everything worked. After closing out of it, I copied my old saves to the new save folder location and then opened up OBMM and imported my load order from before. Restarted the game and opened up my latest save and picked up right were I left off at with NO LAG, NO STUTTERING, FULL HIGH GRAPHICS and all my mods WORKING PROPERLY! *happy dance*
gregathit Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 Block, Well, as you are probably aware the shear number of mods you are running is going to be problematic for oblivion as it is a CPU driven game. You have so many mods that contain scripts that it is bottle-necking things for you. You need to take a serious look at what each mod adds to you game and whether those features are worth the hit. Now I really can't do anything more than point out examples because my opinions/tastes are probably quite different from yours so what I can live with/without might be not be to your liking. Examples of things that have either have competeting features or functions: 1. CM partners mods vs MCS/2chan lives. Both are adding npc's to the game world (2chan lives plus its addons has 300+ and firefly's one for cm partners has even more than that if I remember right). Do you really need that many people in your game world. Each one you have adds scripts that run. The shear combo of those scripts for just npc's alone can cause problems. Also some of the more intense partners mods can cause even more strain and potential for conflict. 2. Magic - you have quite a few magic impacting mods. See which ones you may be able to live without. Many have conflicting scripts or features. 3. You have a number of play it through and disable it mods - these should not be a permanent part of your load order. Examples - Underdark, hentaimania 2 (this effects the game world much more than the 1st game as the first one mostly adds npc's to the dungeons/ruins and so on), GTA 1 & 2, Curse of Hircine, Sundered Keep and so on. 4. You have numerous stat adjustment mods - Frans make huge changes and then you have Quest Award Leveler, More Realistic Encumbrance, SM Spell Leveling, Oblivion XP, SDR Perks And Patches - Oblivion, Toaster's Legendary Skills & Stats, Toaster's Legendary Mastery, just to name a few. Consider paring down and/or combining things or flat out compromising. 5. Unnecessary things - DuplicateItemSpell (the console works fine for this and doesn't take up an esp slot - note excessive use of either this mod or the console duplicating things can lead to save game bloat), Enhanced Grabbing (if this is for bodies - renguardoverhaul has a deal built into it) - is this really required? 6. Unnecessary duplicates: _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp and _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp (full has the hair included - and why aren't these merged into the bashed patch and disabled?). There may be others like this like: IDKRRR_C_race.esp and IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp - check each one out via the readme's to see if both are required or just picking one. 7. Lovers and sexdarkness - not a good idea to run both. Again, this list is not meant to do anything other than stimulate you to closely review each and every mod you have and help you sort them into categories: 1. Must have mods 2. Play through and disable 3. Crap you don't need - delete. 4. Stuff to merge into must have mods/bashed patch/custom esp. Don't feel any need to respond to any of the items I listed above or defend yourself or mod selection.
block2001 Posted December 21, 2011 Author Posted December 21, 2011 Block' date=' Well, as you are probably aware the shear number of mods you are running is going to be problematic for oblivion as it is a CPU driven game. You have so many mods that contain scripts that it is bottle-necking things for you. You need to take a serious look at what each mod adds to you game and whether those features are worth the hit. Now I really can't do anything more than point out examples because my opinions/tastes are probably quite different from yours so what I can live with/without might be not be to your liking. Examples of things that have either have competeting features or functions: 1. CM partners mods vs MCS/2chan lives. Both are adding npc's to the game world (2chan lives plus its addons has 300+ and firefly's one for cm partners has even more than that if I remember right). Do you really need that many people in your game world. Each one you have adds scripts that run. The shear combo of those scripts for just npc's alone can cause problems. Also some of the more intense partners mods can cause even more strain and potential for conflict. 2. Magic - you have quite a few magic impacting mods. See which ones you may be able to live without. Many have conflicting scripts or features. 3. You have a number of play it through and disable it mods - these should not be a permanent part of your load order. Examples - Underdark, hentaimania 2 (this effects the game world much more than the 1st game as the first one mostly adds npc's to the dungeons/ruins and so on), GTA 1 & 2, Curse of Hircine, Sundered Keep and so on. 4. You have numerous stat adjustment mods - Frans make huge changes and then you have Quest Award Leveler, More Realistic Encumbrance, SM Spell Leveling, Oblivion XP, SDR Perks And Patches - Oblivion, Toaster's Legendary Skills & Stats, Toaster's Legendary Mastery, just to name a few. Consider paring down and/or combining things or flat out compromising. 5. Unnecessary things - DuplicateItemSpell (the console works fine for this and doesn't take up an esp slot - note excessive use of either this mod or the console duplicating things can lead to save game bloat), Enhanced Grabbing (if this is for bodies - renguardoverhaul has a deal built into it) - is this really required? 6. Unnecessary duplicates: _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp and _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp (full has the hair included - and why aren't these merged into the bashed patch and disabled?). There may be others like this like: IDKRRR_C_race.esp and IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp - check each one out via the readme's to see if both are required or just picking one. 7. Lovers and sexdarkness - not a good idea to run both. Again, this list is not meant to do anything other than stimulate you to closely review each and every mod you have and help you sort them into categories: 1. Must have mods 2. Play through and disable 3. Crap you don't need - delete. 4. Stuff to merge into must have mods/bashed patch/custom esp. Don't feel any need to respond to any of the items I listed above or defend yourself or mod selection. [/quote'] How would I go about merging mods like Ren Beauty pack because Wrye Bash will not recognize it as mergable
EvenstarGW Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 I'm wondering if you still need Ren's beauty pack at all if you have MBP installed. Also, what Gregathit said about NPC mods is especially true with CM partners. Each CM has a pretty hefty script attached, which normally runs every frame, regardless of whether the CM is in your party or not. Some of the heavier calculations may not run, but it still goes through every line of the script each frame, since it is not optimised. For my own version I have made some edits to the script to make it more efficient for CM's not in my party, but normally, the more CM's, the bigger the impact. Edit - Also, is this on a new save or the same one from before you disabled a stack of mods?
gregathit Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 Block, you can force merge mods via TES4Gecko Link: http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8665 Tutorial Link: http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=38655 Note: Be careful about merging any mods that have scripts in them as you can break the scripts. Clothing/armor/weapons mods for the most part are no problem. As for Ren's Beauty pack - as EvenstarGW pointed out you may not need it as MBP should cover it. If you do end up needing it see if you can just use the one esp and not both. Holler if you have any other questions
block2001 Posted December 22, 2011 Author Posted December 22, 2011 Ok so far I have removed a lot of unnessesary mods thanks to the advice of gregathit so far in total I have removed about 30 or so mods including CM partners and some quest mods that I havent really gotten around to. I am starting to see improvements in terms of fps though by not a lot it is good to see some progress, crashes are still hapening often but i'm getting there Anyways here is an update on my load order it is still being worked on and I am still implementing the advice given Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 underdark.esm 02 TR_OoT_Main.esm 03 CastleWestWeald.esm 04 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 05 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI] 06 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI] 07 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI] 08 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.35] 09 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] 0A Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3] 0B Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3] 0C CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm 0D Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35] 0E Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm [Version 3.0b] 0F Lovers with PK.esm 10 TamagoClub.esm 11 HiyokoClub.esm 12 CURP_Controller.esm 13 Easy_Companion_Share.esm 14 Toaster Says Share v3.esm 15 x117race.esm 16 Chanpon.esm 17 HorseCombatMaster.esm 18 ScreenEffects.esm 19 Romance Air.esm 1A Hair Style Master.esm 1B IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esm ** Oblivion Vwalk.esp ** CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack Vwalk.esp 1C Purge Cell Buffers - Cell Change.esp [Version 1.0.0] 1D Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp [Version 1.0.0] 1E TRoN.esp ** TRoN Vwalk.esp 1F DLCShiveringIsles.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS.esp 20 OBGE - Liquid Water.esp 21 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp 22 Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1] 23 _Real_Lights.esp 24 Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp 25 EquipmentConvertor.esp 26 My Voice Extender.esp 27 VipCxj_AirSystem.esp 28 Choices and Consequences.esp [Version 2.02] 29 MyPersonalArmy.esp 2A ScreenControls.esp 2B Streamline 3.1.esp 2C DLCHorseArmor.esp 2D DLCOrrery.esp ** DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp 2E DLCVileLair.esp ++ SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp [Version 1.21] 2F DLCMehrunesRazor.esp ** DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk.esp 30 DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 31 DesuChan's Store.esp 32 Hiyoko_Store.esp 33 AncientTowers.esp ** AncientTowers Vwalk.esp 34 DLCThievesDen.esp ** DLCThievesDen Vwalk.esp 35 Francesco's Optional Files.esp 36 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] ** Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp 37 Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp [Version 2.0] 38 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3] 39 CurseOfHircine.esp 3A Curse of Hircine - Werewolf Hunters.esp 3B CurseOfHircine - Symphony of Night.esp 3C TIE.esp [Version 1.47] ** TIE Vwalk.esp ++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01] ++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35] 3D Castle Ravenpride.esp [Version 1.01] 3E Trade and Commerce.esp 3F Adaman Fortress.esp 40 Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp 41 BladeSong.esp 42 CastleWestWeald.esp 43 DragonInvasion.esp 44 Dwemer_Skyship_1_1_0.esp 45 DukeCity.esp 46 GDS.esp 47 HentaiLovelyHouse.esp 48 Hentai Mania.esp ** Hentai Mania Vwalk.esp 49 ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp 4A Feudal Empire 300.esp 4B GlenvarCastle.esp ** GlenvarCastle Vwalk.esp 4C Mondstein - female Companion.esp 4D Reaper's A Friendly Back-Up.esp 4E Rise Of A Samurai.esp 4F Romuska Fantasy Store.esp 50 Side's Sailing Ships.esp [Version 0.93.5] 51 ardah.esp ** ardah Vwalk.esp 52 SunderedKeep.esp ** SunderedKeep Vwalk.esp 53 TheElderCouncil.esp ** TheElderCouncil Vwalk.esp ++ TEC_4ERA_Dialog_Filter.esp 54 Tona's_ModsStore.esp 55 TR_Stirk.esp ** TR_Stirk Vwalk.esp 56 Valenwood Improved.esp [Version 1.01.0] 57 Versus Dark Brotherhood.esp [Version sus] 58 Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp ** Vampire Hunting - Order Of The Virtuous Blood Vwalk.esp 59 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp 5A Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp 5B DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 5C BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp 5D DLCFrostcrag.esp ** DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp 5E Knights.esp ** Knights Vwalk.esp ++ SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.06] 5F TOTF.esp ** TOTF Vwalk.esp ++ TOTF Delayer.esp 60 RTT.esp ** RTT Vwalk.esp 61 SoT_TheOrderofNibenay.esp ** Blood&Mud.esp 62 HoarfrostCastle.esp ** HoarfrostCastle Vwalk.esp 63 MannimarcoComplete.esp 64 MannimarcoRevisited.esp 65 MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp [Version 0.1] 66 DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp [Version 1.0] 67 Tamriel.esp 68 ElsweyrAnequina.esp ** ElsweyrAnequina Vwalk.esp 69 Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp 6A Celestiel - EV.esp 6B Academy.esp 6C TWMP_Valenwood_Elsweyr.esp 6D HentaiMania2.esp ** HentaiMania2 Vwalk.esp 6E CoverYourself.esp ++ HentaiMania2_Merged_Hell.esp 6F From2ch Lives.esp 70 AutoBookPlacer.esp [Version 3.02] 71 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.1] 72 Scouter.esp 73 LoversTamagoClub.esp 74 LoversFSE.esp 75 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 76 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 90] 77 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp 78 ShippingInCyrodiil_Normal_Lights_V1-1 - With Drawbridges.esp 79 VisiblyUnlimited.esp 7A Werewolf-Legends.esp 7B Alternative Beginnings.esp [Version 1.2.5] 7C More Realistic Encumbrance.esp 7D Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 5.5] 7E Unholy Darkness.esp 7F Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp 80 Druid Mod.esp 81 DuplicateItemSpell.esp 82 Friendly Fire.esp [Version 2.02] 83 MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5] 84 MCS extension.esp 85 Mysterious Bear's Epic Necromancy + EM.esp 86 Smite of Order.esp 87 TeachSpell.esp 88 TheKillingMoon.esp 89 MidasSpells.esp 8A FearsomeMagicka.esp 8B SM Combat Hide.esp [Version 1.2] 8C RenGuardOverhaul.esp 8D Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp 8E DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp 8F HumantouchNPC.esp 90 Sneaking Detection Recalibrated.esp [Version 4.0.3] 91 Oblivion XP.esp [Version 4.1.5] 92 Toaster's Legendary Skills & Stats.esp [Version 3.44] 93 Seph's new animations.esp 94 actors_in_charge.esp 95 zzEstrus.esp 96 _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp 97 Ayleid Arcane Archer.esp [Version 2.7] 98 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp 99 The Forgotten.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp 9A Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Dialog.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp 9B IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp 9C Sharingan and Uchiha Clan.esp 9D Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp 9E Minionz.esp 9F not_recruit_companions.esp A0 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 4] ++ 1em_vilja_RenHair8.esp A1 Arren.esp A2 Companion Neeshka.esp ** Companion Neeshka Vwalk.esp A3 GGValeria2_0.esp A4 Synx.esp A5 RhiannaII.esp A6 Saerileth.esp A7 Sonia.esp ** Sonia Vwalk.esp A8 StokerWolff.esp A9 UnderdarkSaga.esp ** UnderdarkSaga Vwalk.esp ++ CoreRandmonClothing4Npcs.esp AA Fate Stay Night Saber Companion.esp AB Fate Stay Night Saber Companion_Alter Dark Saber Plugin.esp AC pornaga's Elf Companions.esp AD WnasZhxl.esp AE Marg Lena V2.esp AF Tiefling Races.esp B0 Viera-v3.esp B1 UnlimitedBladeWorks_Fakers.esp B2 FFRace.esp B3 NaturalEnvironments.esp B4 JakesMod.esp B5 Isle of the Blessed.esp B6 FF7 Blades Complete.esp B7 The Initiative.esp B8 Jobs and Stuff merged v1.esp B9 miscellaneous merged.esp BA items and clothing merged v6.esp ++ CSR_xLovers_Patch.esp ++ LAMELoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp ++ F2LMiqoteAddon.esp BB City Life-x117.esp BC From2ch Lives Boss.esp BD F2L_FaceChange.esp BE Ta22's 01Army.esp BF 117NPCs.esp C0 F2LAddon_MSElves.esp C1 F2LHideRaces.esp C2 EURN.esp ++ LoversCreatureVoiceForceEnabler.esp C3 666_Modified_Contraception_esp_1_0.esp ++ UOPSLoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp C4 RA ADD GRV.esp C5 RA Chain Add-on.esp C6 RA Objects.esp C7 Better Looking Redguards v2.esp C8 DarkBloodline.esp C9 FutaPriory.esp CA ahtata dremora.esp CB ahtata Ork.esp CC UVII.esp CD GSR_YAWUW.esp CE Bashed Patch, 0.esp CF MergedMaps.esp D0 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp D1 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp D2 Lovers3dorgasm.esp edit: @ Dreamer I havent ignored your post btw however I want to try everything else possible before doing a complete reinstall of oblivion(I have done that way to many times) edit again: Oh also thanks to the help you've given so far my googly eyes problem is fixed and I wasnt even thinking about that either so thats quite a nice bonus
EvenstarGW Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 Here's another question. The purge cell buffers on ... mods, won't they conflict with Streamline? Streamline already does PCB's on several occasions, which can be set up through its ini and ingame menu.
block2001 Posted December 22, 2011 Author Posted December 22, 2011 Here's another question. The purge cell buffers on ... mods' date=' won't they conflict with Streamline? Streamline already does PCB's on several occasions, which can be set up through its ini and ingame menu. [/quote'] Yea I totally forgot about those and have removed them cause Streanline is much better
xartom Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 I think TIE alone may conflict with some of those overhauls. There may be a patch (I know there's a few for FCOM) but I'd go check. Also, companion mods are processing heavy so if you can you may want to cut down. Feudal Empire 300 is a buggy when with RGO and overhauls (iirc it changes the guards), so I'd advise against keeping it in your load order. Double check that you have all the little requirements for the mods (Algohol or whatever for fearsome and so on), I know from experience its way to easy to miss one.
dmcorbeau Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 Any particular pattern to your crashes? What does the Windows crash reports say? I don't know if your crashes has the same causes as mine, so what I say below might not work for you, but recently I fixed many of my crashing problems by editing sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.ini Specifically I think I changed some values under "Master" and "Heap" sections. I think that's all I did, but the whole thing is here so you can check... For a long time I had pretty frequent (about 30% of the time) crashes mostly when entering intensive cells, like IC Waterfront with Better Cities (FPS patch didn't help much), or even entering Market District (again with Better Cities) from City Isle, or just random crashes transiting cells. These crashes do not occur at all anymore, even though FPS is still very low in some places like IC Waterfront. My ini looks like this: Master = { _comment = You can turn on or off each distinct feature from here. bManageFPS = 1 bHookCriticalSections = 1 bHookHashtables = 1 bReplaceHeap = 1 bLogToConsole = 0 bFix64Hertz = 1 bFlushLog = 1 iSchedulingResolution = 1 iMainHookPoint = 1 } FPS_Management = { _comment = Basic FPS stuff, switches to slow-motion on low FPS; in the past this has occaisonally produced bugs like the NPCs-dropping-dead issue; the issues are believed to be fixed but if you suspect you are having related problems you can try disabling bAllowSlowMotion which is the main suspect for any problems relating to FPS management bAllowSlowMotion = 1 MaximumFPS = 30 MinimumFPS = 10 iSmoothFrames = 0 iSmoothMode = 0 iSleepExtra = 2 bFPSConsoleSPAM = 0 iSchedulingParanoia = 1 iHardMaxFrametime = 200 } CriticalSections = { _comment = CS stuff helps both Oblivion and Fallout significantly _comment = most of the benefit comes from the Renderer+0x180 suppression (see overrides below) _comment = modes: 1=vanilla, 2=fair, 3=stuttering, 5=suppressed, 6=prioritize-main-thread, 7=deprioritize-main-thread bEnableProfiling = 0 bEnableMessages = 0 bUseOverrides = 1 iDefaultMode = 2 iDefaultSpin = 1000 iStutterLevel = 4 } Heap = { _comment = Heap replacement can produce MAJOR improvements in performance on Oblivion, only moderate improvements on Fallout _comment = It crashes instantly on Fallout, is moderately buggy on Oblivion _comment = Algorithms: 1=FastMM4 (requires external dll), 2=Microsoft (slow on XP), 3=SimpleHeap1, 5=ThreadHeap2 iHeapAlgorithm = 5 bEnableProfiling = 1 iHeapSize = 1024 bEnableMessages = 0 } Hashtables = { _comment = This stuff is still new. _comment = The dynamic resizing option may still be buggy. bAllowDynamicResizing = 0 bUseOverrides = 0 bEnableProfiling = 0 bEnableMessages = 1 iHashtableResizeScale1 = 2 iHashtableResizeScale2 = 4 iHashtableResizeDelay = 20 } OverrideList = { CriticalSection = { CallerAddress = 0x701748 comment = Renderer+0x180, recommendation=suppress (mode 5) Mode = 5 } CriticalSection = { ObjectAddress = 0xB32B80 comment = MemoryHeap CS, recommendation=stutter (mode 3) Mode = 3 Spin = 1500 } CriticalSection = { CallerAddress = 0x70172A comment = Renderer+0x80, recommendation=??? } CriticalSection = { ObjectAddress = 0xB3FA00 comment = Unknown4, recommendation=??? } } I have identical OBSE plugins, 4GB switch, and almost identical hardware as block2001 (with GTX 260) Regarding number of mods, my largest Wrye Bash profile has 95 esm+esp's enabled, so it's not 100% crash prove (don't think that's possible anyways), but I'm happy with the stability now
block2001 Posted December 24, 2011 Author Posted December 24, 2011 Sorry I havent bben on the forums for a bit I have been super busy.. Ok so I have basically implemented many of what you guys have said to do and am still working on improving it i even reinstalled and all that good stuff. This is my new load order Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 underdark.esm 02 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 03 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI] 04 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI] 05 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI] 06 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.35] 07 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] 08 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3] 09 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3] 0A CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm 0B Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35] 0C Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm [Version 3.0b] 0D Lovers with PK.esm 0E TamagoClub.esm 0F HiyokoClub.esm 10 CURP_Controller.esm 11 Easy_Companion_Share.esm 12 Toaster Says Share v3.esm 13 x117race.esm 14 HorseCombatMaster.esm 15 ScreenEffects.esm 16 Romance Air.esm 17 Hair Style Master.esm 18 IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esm ** Oblivion Vwalk.esp ** CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack Vwalk.esp 19 TRoN.esp ** TRoN Vwalk.esp 1A DLCShiveringIsles.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS.esp 1B OBGE - Liquid Water.esp 1C Atmospheric Oblivion.esp 1D Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1] 1E _Real_Lights.esp 1F Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp 20 EquipmentConvertor.esp 21 My Voice Extender.esp 22 VipCxj_AirSystem.esp 23 Choices and Consequences.esp [Version 2.02] 24 MyPersonalArmy.esp 25 ScreenControls.esp 26 Streamline 3.1.esp 27 DLCHorseArmor.esp 28 DLCOrrery.esp ** DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp 29 DLCVileLair.esp ++ SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp [Version 1.21] 2A DLCMehrunesRazor.esp ** DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk.esp 2B DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 2C DesuChan's Store.esp 2D Hiyoko_Store.esp 2E AncientTowers.esp ** AncientTowers Vwalk.esp 2F DLCThievesDen.esp ** DLCThievesDen Vwalk.esp 30 Francesco's Optional Files.esp 31 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] ** Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp 32 Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp [Version 2.0] 33 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3] 34 CurseOfHircine.esp 35 Curse of Hircine - Werewolf Hunters.esp 36 CurseOfHircine - Symphony of Night.esp 37 TIE.esp [Version 1.47] ** TIE Vwalk.esp ++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01] ++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35] 38 Castle Ravenpride.esp [Version 1.01] 39 Trade and Commerce.esp 3A Adaman Fortress.esp 3B Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp 3C BladeSong.esp 3D DragonInvasion.esp 3E Dwemer_Skyship_1_1_0.esp 3F DukeCity.esp 40 GDS.esp 41 HentaiLovelyHouse.esp 42 ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp 43 Feudal Empire 300.esp 44 GlenvarCastle.esp ** GlenvarCastle Vwalk.esp 45 Mondstein - female Companion.esp 46 Reaper's A Friendly Back-Up.esp 47 Rise Of A Samurai.esp 48 Romuska Fantasy Store.esp 49 Side's Sailing Ships.esp [Version 0.93.5] 4A ardah.esp ** ardah Vwalk.esp 4B SunderedKeep.esp ** SunderedKeep Vwalk.esp 4C TheElderCouncil.esp ** TheElderCouncil Vwalk.esp ++ TEC_4ERA_Dialog_Filter.esp 4D Tona's_ModsStore.esp 4E Valenwood Improved.esp [Version 1.01.0] 4F Versus Dark Brotherhood.esp [Version sus] 50 Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp ** Vampire Hunting - Order Of The Virtuous Blood Vwalk.esp 51 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp 52 Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp 53 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 54 BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp 55 DLCFrostcrag.esp ** DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp 56 Knights.esp ** Knights Vwalk.esp ++ SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.06] 57 TOTF.esp ** TOTF Vwalk.esp ++ TOTF Delayer.esp 58 RTT.esp ** RTT Vwalk.esp 59 SoT_TheOrderofNibenay.esp 5A Blood&Mud.esp 5B HoarfrostCastle.esp ** HoarfrostCastle Vwalk.esp 5C MannimarcoComplete.esp 5D MannimarcoRevisited.esp 5E MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp [Version 0.1] 5F DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp [Version 1.0] 60 Tamriel.esp 61 ElsweyrAnequina.esp ** ElsweyrAnequina Vwalk.esp 62 Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp 63 Celestiel - EV.esp 64 Academy.esp 65 TWMP_Valenwood_Elsweyr.esp 66 CoverYourself.esp 67 From2ch Lives.esp 68 AutoBookPlacer.esp [Version 3.02] 69 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.1] 6A Scouter.esp 6B LoversTamagoClub.esp 6C LoversFSE.esp 6D LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 6E Lovers with PK.esp [Version 90] 6F Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp 70 ShippingInCyrodiil_Normal_Lights_V1-1 - With Drawbridges.esp 71 VisiblyUnlimited.esp 72 Werewolf-Legends.esp 73 Alternative Beginnings.esp [Version 1.2.5] 74 More Realistic Encumbrance.esp 75 Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 5.5] 76 Unholy Darkness.esp 77 Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp 78 DuplicateItemSpell.esp 79 Friendly Fire.esp [Version 2.02] 7A MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5] 7B MCS extension.esp 7C Mysterious Bear's Epic Necromancy + EM.esp 7D TeachSpell.esp 7E TheKillingMoon.esp 7F MidasSpells.esp 80 FearsomeMagicka.esp 81 SM Combat Hide.esp [Version 1.2] 82 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp 83 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp 84 HumantouchNPC.esp 85 Sneaking Detection Recalibrated.esp [Version 4.0.3] 86 Oblivion XP.esp 87 Toaster's Legendary Skills & Stats.esp [Version 3.44] 88 Seph's new animations.esp 89 actors_in_charge.esp 8A zzEstrus.esp 8B Ayleid Arcane Archer.esp [Version 2.7] 8C KvatchAftermath.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp 8D Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Dialog.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp 8E IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp 8F Sharingan and Uchiha Clan.esp 90 Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp 91 Minionz.esp 92 not_recruit_companions.esp 93 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 4] ++ 1em_vilja_RenHair8.esp 94 Arren.esp 95 Companion Neeshka.esp ** Companion Neeshka Vwalk.esp 96 GGValeria2_0.esp 97 RhiannaII.esp 98 Saerileth.esp 99 Sonia.esp ** Sonia Vwalk.esp 9A StokerWolff.esp 9B UnderdarkSaga.esp ** UnderdarkSaga Vwalk.esp ++ CoreRandmonClothing4Npcs.esp 9C Fate Stay Night Saber Companion.esp 9D Fate Stay Night Saber Companion_Alter Dark Saber Plugin.esp 9E pornaga's Elf Companions.esp 9F WnasZhxl.esp A0 Marg Lena V2.esp A1 Tiefling Races.esp A2 UnlimitedBladeWorks_Fakers.esp A3 FFRace.esp A4 NaturalEnvironments.esp A5 JakesMod.esp A6 Isle of the Blessed.esp A7 FF7 Blades Complete.esp A8 The Initiative.esp A9 Jobs and Stuff merged v1.esp AA miscellaneous merged.esp AB items and clothing merged v6.esp ++ CSR_xLovers_Patch.esp ++ LAMELoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp ++ F2LMiqoteAddon.esp AC City Life-x117.esp AD From2ch Lives Boss.esp AE F2L_FaceChange.esp AF Ta22's 01Army.esp B0 117NPCs.esp B1 F2LAddon_MSElves.esp B2 F2LHideRaces.esp B3 EURN.esp ++ LoversCreatureVoiceForceEnabler.esp B4 666_Modified_Contraception_esp_1_0.esp ++ UOPSLoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp B5 RA ADD GRV.esp B6 RA Chain Add-on.esp B7 RA Objects.esp B8 Better Looking Redguards v2.esp B9 DarkBloodline.esp BA FutaPriory.esp ++ ahtata dremora.esp BB ahtata Ork.esp BC UVII.esp BD GSR_YAWUW.esp BE Bashed Patch, 0.esp BF MergedMaps.esp C0 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp C1 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp C2 Lovers3dorgasm.esp Good news is increased fps and not soo much stutter. However it is still crashing frequently although not as quickly as before. Also now I am getting the symptoms of AI overload and the npcs dont do much of anything, which makes no sense to me because it was working before and from then all I have been doing was removing script intensive mods...
cyb3r Posted December 25, 2011 Posted December 25, 2011 block did you rebuild your bashed patch? sometimes removing intensive scripted mods can destroy parts of the ai not sure if it's the issue just curious (my mind is kinda sleepy after fixing another bug with my new omod ^^)
block2001 Posted December 26, 2011 Author Posted December 26, 2011 block did you rebuild your bashed patch? sometimes removing intensive scripted mods can destroy parts of the ai not sure if it's the issue just curious (my mind is kinda sleepy after fixing another bug with my new omod ^^) I rebuilt the patch and everything...its actually really annoying because now oblivion is actually really playable with little lag and even less crashes but now this AI is acting up...damn my luck
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