Sonic Racing: Crossworlds

[Unkwn37]

4 minutes ago, ClosetOfDoom said:

You obviously didn't read the whole thing. The last few paragraphs actually contain several apologies, and even owning up to the management's faults.

 

Skimmers shouldn't get a say in the conversation, since they don't understand full context.

TBF this IS the internet after all. He could be right for all we know.

 

2 minutes ago, senkougami said:

oh fuck you, you didn't spend over an hour arguing with this twat. Go understand the full context of your head up your ass. If he's sorry he should be apologizing on Gamebanana, or Discord. 

Easy there. I get you already had the moment against Zor, but blowing your lid on another user won't help right now.

I do agree a clarification and even an apology on GB would be useful but were would it be posted? Sites not exactly easy for discussion aside from comments on mod pages themselves afaik

[ClosetOfDoom]

23 minutes ago, senkougami said:

oh fuck you, you didn't spend over an hour arguing with this twat. Go understand the full context of your head up your ass. If he's sorry he should be apologizing on Gamebanana, or Discord. 

I'll keep this short so you don't skip stuff.

 

You wanted an apology, you got one. You missed it due to your anger with Zor.

 

Unkwn37 is right, an apology on GB isn't exactly going to get noticed, since it's really not built for forum-style discussion. On Discord, sure.

 

Still, an apology is an apology, wrong site or not. He even apologized directly about the XXX-Hax folks who got banned as collateral.

 

Even if he did apologize on Discord or GB, you don't seem like the type to let it be right now, so his apology wouldn't serve much purpose anyway.

 

A break from internet would be good for you. Come back after a day or so, just so you can properly read stuff without a storm cloud over your head.

[strawberrycakes100]

On 11/1/2025 at 8:40 PM, strawberrycakes100 said:

A pretty thicc miku that has a focus on the butt and hips! Planned features is adding jiggle physics, bigger boobs and different outfits and non squish. Since I quite enjoy making models and outfits in blender.
A lot of people have dm'd me asking for an update so rather than waiting for me to learn how the physics works...I'll release a v1 that's a non jiggle physics(sure some people would want that anyway~)
Enjoy and limme know if you spot any problems (Clipping will happen due to her size but as I played I didn't find many clipping.)
The files are lighter and vanilla. Lighter has an adjusted skin tone to match the nude skin and vanilla keeps her face color the same as vanilla which is pinkish/peach but it'll clash with her nude body.

Credits:
Haise Sasaki: Base Body, Outfit, Nude Body Texture
PinkSloot: Model Creation Assistance. Check her out on twitter/X! 

MikuTHICCVanillaColors_P.zip 991.74 kB · 4 downloads MikuTHICCLighter_P.zip 2.86 MB · 3 downloads

V2! Now with jiggles and a bug fix!
Her hair is no longer oddly glossy/shiny.
Now onto the jiggle options and what they mean~

Simple Jiggles is just that; not too crazy and distracting. The breast and butt moves ^^
EX is more extreme. The boobs bounce a LOT more and same with the butt! (I wanted to make the ass wobble more but I kept running into issues where her ass goes too~ wild when driving on a extreme gear, so I'll make a new version soon until I find a sweet spot just for a more jiggly booty for the ass lovers! since I made her ass so big...would be a same if its not clapping and alerting the guards!).
Anyway enjoy! dm me if you have any issues.
Also if people want it. I'll do the non glossy hair bug fix for the non jiggles version too but for now....I probably won't touch it now.

Miku Lighter Jiggles EX.zip Miku Lighter Jiggles simple.zip

Edited November 5, 2025 by strawberrycakes100

[GayKobold]

3 hours ago, falden said:

Hi, this is Zor.

 

Not with my main username, because _someone_ will google me, find this and somehow manage to turn it into a google doc. Just wanted to quickly clarify what happened, and introduce the new NSFW rules.

I understand that you're concerned about people misrepresenting you, but since you even said you're Zor it will still make people be able to find and know it's you, no matter which account you're using. I appreciate the apology at least, even if I skimmed over some stuff because I'm not involved in any of it.

[Catnatic]

2 hours ago, Obligitury said:

Ill ask this just for the sake of clarity, Would cream replacing the orange spats with the white panties shes had in all the games prior fit into being allowed to be uploaded onto gamebanana? if shes wearing panties while still wearing her dress it shouldn't count as partial nudity right?

I don't think that's likely because a mod that makes characters wear panties would be seen as a sexual thing and considering how Cream is child-coded, that's going to upset a lot of people.

 

1 hour ago, Unkwn37 said:

I will respectfully agree that this situation was definitely overwhelming and assuming there is no bending of facts (Sorry, I'm just very skeptical in general. Nothing personal) then you did indeed take the best course possible. There is indeed valid reason to take action given the info provided, but the problem many have an issue with is the Bethesda shotgun approach and the fact that it was done in what can be seen as a crusade like move to purge the server of those who enjoy certain content.

1 hour ago, Unkwn37 said:

Again, I'll acknowledge that based on what's presented currently, you did what you needed to as mod when in your server. I would never hold that against anyone who has such responsibility, but reaching out beyond your server just to narrow down individuals or groups as a whole is just not acceptable as that is outside of what you need to concern yourself with.

I concur. I understand where Zor is coming from and I won't hold that against him, although that shotgun ban was rather reckless and could've been handled better.

I do believe it is valid to ensure that minors won't view the sensitive content and I agree that GameBanana should be better designed to segregate the SFW and NSFW mods from each other to avoid tainting the modding community's relationship with SEGA.

2 hours ago, Unkwn37 said:

Lolicons truly are an oppressed species.

I don't blame him.

Having a nudified/sexualised version of Cream and especially Sage is way too much for a lot of people even if it's only pixels, drawings, fictional or whatever.

It's best not to have that kind of drama in GameBanana.

2 hours ago, Unkwn37 said:

This is not comforting given your judgement on the Miku debacle.

Similar case with Cream and Sage but Tails/Nine is kind of shaky since he's meant to be like a child prodigy so he acts more intelligent than what his original age suggests, but he isn't always portrayed to be mature like a lot of the other characters that functionally acts like adults.

 

1 hour ago, senkougami said:

don't take anything Zor says seriously, I'm convinced he's a compulsive liar and I have screencaps if he tries to pretend otherwise. Spent the better portion of over an hour trying to explain how nothing was his fault and it was all the other moderators, the site admins, etc. and that he did nothing wrong. Dude's pretty good at using flowery language to hide the fact he's dodging accountability, should get into politics.

Still waiting for any semblance of the phrase "I'm sorry" or "I was wrong". Dude's a joke.

Even if he's lying, what exactly is at stake here? Like what do we have to lose for falling for it?

I still have no interest in uploading my mods at GameBanana and especially not at CrossWorlds Hub as they're not my demographic.

I always intend to separate my identities between being a NSFW artist and my main self to protect my reputation elsewhere.

1 hour ago, senkougami said:

oh fuck you, you didn't spend over an hour arguing with this twat. Go understand the full context of your head up your ass. If he's sorry he should be apologizing on Gamebanana, or Discord. 

10 minutes ago, senkougami said:

I'll keep this short: take that condescending attitude, and shove it so far up your ass that you choke on it

Dude, you seriously need to calm down. The moderators here aren't going to tolerate the aggressive attitude you’re exhibiting yourself.

[ClosetOfDoom]

9 minutes ago, Catnatic said:

I don't think that's likely because a mod that makes characters wear panties would be seen as a sexual thing and considering how Cream is child-coded, that's going to upset a lot of people.

 

I concur. I understand where Zor is coming from and I won't hold that against him, although that shotgun ban was rather reckless and could've been handled better.

I do believe it is valid to ensure that minors won't view the sensitive content and I agree that GameBanana should be better designed to segregate the SFW and NSFW mods from each other to avoid tainting the modding community's relationship with SEGA.

I don't blame him.

Having a nudified/sexualised version of Cream and especially Sage is way too much for a lot of people even if it's only pixels, drawings, fictional or whatever.

It's best not to have that kind of drama in GameBanana.

Similar case with Cream and Sage but Tails/Nine is kind of shaky since he's meant to be like a child prodigy so he acts more intelligent than what his original age suggests, but he isn't always portrayed to be mature like a lot of the other characters that functionally acts like adults.

 

Even if he's lying, what exactly is at stake here? Like what do we have to lose for falling for it?

I still have no interest in uploading my mods at GameBanana and especially not at CrossWorlds Hub as they're not my demographic.

I always intend to separate my identities between being a NSFW artist and my main self to protect my reputation elsewhere.

Dude, you seriously need to calm down. The moderators here aren't going to tolerate the aggressive attitude you’re exhibiting yourself.

Well said. This is why I appreaciate folks like you. You take the time to read everything and respond to each point without rambling or spouting hate.

[TreatsForEspurr]

On 10/10/2025 at 11:04 PM, TheParadigm said:

Couldn't get the transparency to work but it's something.

Anyone planning to make this a real thing? I'd do it myself but I'm way too lazy

[TreatsForEspurr]

2 hours ago, Catnatic said:

I don't think that's likely because a mod that makes characters wear panties would be seen as a sexual thing and considering how Cream is child-coded, that's going to upset a lot of people.

 

I concur. I understand where Zor is coming from and I won't hold that against him, although that shotgun ban was rather reckless and could've been handled better.

I do believe it is valid to ensure that minors won't view the sensitive content and I agree that GameBanana should be better designed to segregate the SFW and NSFW mods from each other to avoid tainting the modding community's relationship with SEGA.

I don't blame him.

Having a nudified/sexualised version of Cream and especially Sage is way too much for a lot of people even if it's only pixels, drawings, fictional or whatever.

It's best not to have that kind of drama in GameBanana.

Similar case with Cream and Sage but Tails/Nine is kind of shaky since he's meant to be like a child prodigy so he acts more intelligent than what his original age suggests, but he isn't always portrayed to be mature like a lot of the other characters that functionally acts like adults.

 

Even if he's lying, what exactly is at stake here? Like what do we have to lose for falling for it?

I still have no interest in uploading my mods at GameBanana and especially not at CrossWorlds Hub as they're not my demographic.

I always intend to separate my identities between being a NSFW artist and my main self to protect my reputation elsewhere.

Dude, you seriously need to calm down. The moderators here aren't going to tolerate the aggressive attitude you’re exhibiting yourself.

It's so rare to meet someone who shares a similar mindset with characters like cream sage and tails

[AbraKadaBram]

7 hours ago, kkoo9969 said:

do you think you'll make a hyper version of this mod liek you did with gothic lolita amy?

Currently busy with other commissions, but when things clear up a little maybe

[Zorai]

7 hours ago, falden said:

Hi, this is Zor.

 

Not with my main username, because _someone_ will google me, find this and somehow manage to turn it into a google doc. Just wanted to quickly clarify what happened, and introduce the new NSFW rules.

 

A few days ago I misapplied the indecent content policy on tiramizu's Brazilian Miku mod, because I was not aware that apparently every "version" of Miku is explicitly an OC and her canonical age only applies to her official character (I'm really not into Vocaloid). This caused an uproar in the comments since the mod is very popular. This (and some support tickets) also drew the attention of other site staff, who told me to make the NSFW rules more lax and in line with other game sections. 

 

That's honestly fine by me, because I already wanted to do that for weeks, but getting anything like this done is difficult because the other GMs are... not very active and don't like NSFW content, give me 2 lines of input and then nothing. Now it's just mandated, so that makes things simple.

 

Our new rule is a lot more understandable and a lot more free than the inscrutable R-SR:CW.774 (which had just been copy-pasted along with all the other game section rules from HE2 games, where barely anyone makes NSFW mods):

• Submissions containing exposed genitalia or breasts are not allowed in this game section.

To answer Catnatic's question:
Somehow you guys always manage to find the edge cases where I'm not sure what to do. I would say let's start without female nipples, see how this is received by the community, and we can see where we go from there.

 

Note, however, that our Indecent Content Policy still applies, and especially the text in red there. I know Cream and Sage are also distributed here. Those are strictly off limits to be used in a context where an 18+ filter would be required. Any violation of this kind will result in your submission being trashed without question. The ratings that require an 18+ filter are:

• Partial Nudity
• Full Nudity
• Intense Violence
• Fetishistic
• Rating Pending

See the Content Visibility Ratings page to find out what these correspond to.

 

Tails (and Nine)... depends on how he is depicted, since he is now ageless. That has been left up to my judgment.

 

There's a very good chance I will get hated for the choices I make while moderating this, so please try not to straddle the lines. Many people were already hating us for allowing the Amy Rouge mod to exist.

 

I would also like to apologize for how that XXX-Hax ban had been handled. At the time our small moderation team (and especially me) was overloaded, and our userbase is very sensitive for things like naked Miku (I've been getting harassed for over a month now for not frame 1 banning Rozabutt when they got spotted with a weird profile). And, I mean, that's normal. The server is full of children.

 

When it suddenly got publicized that Hasaki made a naked Miku mod, the chat exploded. At the same time I also got a very concerning message about your server from the person who's ban appeal I had been processing. They told me they were dipping because they had had a weird conversation with MM, who apparently saw no issue with zoosadism. At that point I made the call that this was way too dangerous for a server full of kids and we banned everyone we knew of.

 

Honestly, the real problem had been in large part management problems of our own. We had been way too lax, or rather, we were unable to keep up with the growth of the server. People were constantly posting innuendo memes in Hasaki's thread. In a public SFW server full of children. It was really not okay honestly. The situation should not have gotten to that point in the first place.

 

That being said, some bans were necessary. We simply cannot risk letting people who are into naked Cream mods run around in a chat server full of children, I'm sorry. That is just a risk you cannot take as a moderator. But we should have been more selective in our actions, and not just have banned everyone. When we banned everyone from xxx-hax we probably also banned a lot of people who weren't even there for the problematic mods.

 

I'm sorry for that.

 

 

If you have any questions about either the new rules or the other thing, feel free to ask. I'll check again tomorrow though, cause it's 5AM here.

 

Everyone pretty much said what I'd say, but to throw my two cents in. As someone who had to run a NSFW discord, and as someone who manages two SFW ones, its never good to try and appeal to everyone. No matter what choice you make at the end of the day, some will like it, others wont. There's never a winning scenario when making choices that affect a large margin of people, especially when that margin has conflicting thoughts, desires, and opinions.

I can certainly understand where you're getting at with being overwhelm, and being one of the few who makes these choices. Its never easy.

 

I can understand the concern with Cream, Tails/Nine, and Sage. While I personally don't see a problem with them, especially with Tails/Nine with how they act mostly, with only rare moments of him showing that child side. But I understand fully for Sage, and Cream still, since they are child coded like @Catnatic said. And Sage has a human body, which I can understand why many would be off put by that.

My beliefs are that basic nudity shouldn't be seen as a sexual act, as long as its not being done in a sexual manner (poses, flashing, etc.). But I can still understand why many would take issues with it regardless, and cant hold any fault on you or anyone for it.

 

Overall, I think the rule change to only prohibit exposed assets is fine. SEGA does gear towards more teens and up, rather then just kids. I can understand not wanting these types of mods in the server, as its going to have kids in it, specifically 13+ and up (As anything lower then 13 is a Discord TOS violation. And I only mention this since not many know this.). With potentially younger making a GB account to see that stuff. However, its not your job to parent children that aren't your own, and trying to will only bring stress on you.

Unfortunately, you're going to get backlash no matter what choice you make when dealing with these types of mods. And that's when you should put your foot down, especially if you're one of the only few who actually care. People will hate it no matter what. But at the end of the day, these are just pixels on a screen, pixels that don't even have a canon age anymore.

 

If you choose to not allow any of it, that's fine and understandable. If you do choose to allow it, that's also fine. One side will always have its problematic people unfortunately, you just gotta be ready to put your foot down on what you genuinely think is the right course of action. I may not agree with a lot of the choices that were made, but I can understand your point of view to an extent.

Edited November 5, 2025 by Zorai

[goonbro18]

8 hours ago, kkoo9969 said:

do you think you'll make a hyper version of this mod liek you did with gothic lolita amy?

Is this not already considered hyper? Those thangs are completely covering her body

[ClosetOfDoom]

21 minutes ago, goonbro18 said:

Is this not already considered hyper? Those thangs are completely covering her body

Nah, hyper is basically when they're bigger than the person entirely.

[goonbro18]

41 minutes ago, ClosetOfDoom said:

Nah, hyper is basically when they're bigger than the person entirely.

I think theres deeper levels than just the extreme. If its covering her entire body basically then its hyper methinks, just the lower end of things. Also , to me it just looks strange on the base model since shes so small and compact vs if you did this with Miku it wouldnt look too off. Of course just my opinion, people can do whatever they like.

[Ruby Arziendy]

Bruh, seeing all this debacle makes me wonder if there's even a worth in making mods with a slightly potential suggestiveness unless you make them for personal use, cause geez....

[シャドエミの推し]

17 minutes ago, Ruby Arziendy said:

Bruh, seeing all this debacle makes me wonder if there's even a worth in making mods with a slightly potential suggestiveness unless you make them for personal use, cause geez....

Just upload to either this site/other R18+ sites, or an R18+ discord server. It will make it less of a headache.

[SuperKerobot]

21 minutes ago, Ruby Arziendy said:

Bruh, seeing all this debacle makes me wonder if there's even a worth in making mods with a slightly potential suggestiveness unless you make them for personal use, cause geez....

It's always worth it if it's something you wanna do and even if it gets cut off in some places having it anywhere for the people that'd enjoy it makes it worth it too, even if it can only reach a couple of them. I probably sound a bit too optimistic there considering potential consequences for breaking some of the rules in these places though.

[skoobid1223]

Could anybody do me a huge favor and port gold style rouge sa2 and bunny girl rouge sa2 to the ai rouge since the creator only has the demo version?

[falden]

11 hours ago, tiramizu said:

hey, 1. i'm very thankful you've gone out of your way to clarify things. while i wasn't involved in the whole outrage over the mods removal, i'm happy it's been revoked and led to more relaxed rules on nsfw, it's understandably a hard line to tread especially when gb groups nsfw mods with sfw ones.

 

with that out of the way, how far do the new nsfw rules extend? i have made alternate versions of the brazilian miku mod i'd like to upload but am unsure if they apply since miku is more humanoid, and the alts show more skin. it'd be nice to have clarification on whether these can be on gb under the new rule. thanks!

 

I would say up till bikini clothing would be in line with the rules.

 

11 hours ago, Obligitury said:

Ill ask this just for the sake of clarity, Would cream replacing the orange spats with the white panties shes had in all the games prior fit into being allowed to be uploaded onto gamebanana? if shes wearing panties while still wearing her dress it shouldn't count as partial nudity right?

 

No. On these child characters any outfit that would be more revealing or sexualizing than their default look will be automatically rejected.

 

11 hours ago, Unkwn37 said:

Canonical age of a set of pixels. Miku's been around since the wild west days of the internet and so has NSFW of her because she's not real. Using "age" of fictional characters is the whole reason any fictional related community gets scared to make any mods around their younger and sometimes simply short characters.

 

Sounds like some of the suggestions around here of keeping anything near NSFW on GB would really solve this issue. 18+ selection has been a near universally understood stance on the internet that the gloves are off and you browse at your own risk, so if things are truly restricted to only visible to logged in members with the check box, then they have no reason to complain since they agree at that point to know what they are walking into with the check box and age agreement when inputting DOB for profile. Don't like NSFW? Keep the box unticked.

 

This is not comforting given your judgement on the Miku debacle.

 

I will respectfully agree that this situation was definitely overwhelming and assuming there is no bending of facts (Sorry, I'm just very skeptical in general. Nothing personal) then you did indeed take the best course possible. There is indeed valid reason to take action given the info provided, but the problem many have an issue with is the Bethesda shotgun approach and the fact that it was done in what can be seen as a crusade like move to purge the server of those who enjoy certain content.

 

Lolicons truly are an oppressed species.

 

Again, the biggest problem here is that this was to check on someone's activity that had nothing to do with the server you moderate. This is the core issue for the users affected by the xxx-hax BR event you had on your server (a joke to lighten in case a reader without context reads this) and definitely not appreciated by those who want to enjoy the content their grown ass hairy ballsacks (or lower lips) want to enjoy as a certified individual who can make their own choices due to crossing the required time checkpoint we call adulthood, and on top of that taking action over what is at the end of the day: a game.

Again, I'll acknowledge that based on what's presented currently, you did what you needed to as mod when in your server. I would never hold that against anyone who has such responsibility, but reaching out beyond your server just to narrow down individuals or groups as a whole is just not acceptable as that is outside of what you need to concern yourself with.

 

Edit: forgot to note that these are just my thoughts on the matter, of course, and appreciate that you did take the time to note what happened on your end. 👍

 

It is part of the Indecent Content Rules. If a character is known to be a certain age, that age applies.

 

Concerning Tails: you are correct, and I may also have misunderstood some instructions myself. I think it's not a good idea to start judging things on a case by case basis, so let's make a clear rule that does not involve opinions and ad hoc judgments: In this game, Tails looks young. So let's just add him to the list of children. It will also prevent public outrage.

 

The following are considered child characters for which the non-sexualization clause applies:

• Cream
• Sage
• Tails
• Charmy (forgot about the annoying bee who is also obviously child coded)

I will keep this post a purely informational post and thus not address your other paragraphs in this one.

 

5 hours ago, Zorai said:

 

Everyone pretty much said what I'd say, but to throw my two cents in. As someone who had to run a NSFW discord, and as someone who manages two SFW ones, its never good to try and appeal to everyone. No matter what choice you make at the end of the day, some will like it, others wont. There's never a winning scenario when making choices that affect a large margin of people, especially when that margin has conflicting thoughts, desires, and opinions.

I can certainly understand where you're getting at with being overwhelm, and being one of the few who makes these choices. Its never easy.

 

I can understand the concern with Cream, Tails/Nine, and Sage. While I personally don't see a problem with them, especially with Tails/Nine with how they act mostly, with only rare moments of him showing that child side. But I understand fully for Sage, and Cream still, since they are child coded like @Catnatic said. And Sage has a human body, which I can understand why many would be off put by that.

My beliefs are that basic nudity shouldn't be seen as a sexual act, as long as its not being done in a sexual manner (poses, flashing, etc.). But I can still understand why many would take issues with it regardless, and cant hold any fault on you or anyone for it.

 

Overall, I think the rule change to only prohibit exposed assets is fine. SEGA does gear towards more teens and up, rather then just kids. I can understand not wanting these types of mods in the server, as its going to have kids in it, specifically 13+ and up (As anything lower then 13 is a Discord TOS violation. And I only mention this since not many know this.). With potentially younger making a GB account to see that stuff. However, its not your job to parent children that aren't your own, and trying to will only bring stress on you.

Unfortunately, you're going to get backlash no matter what choice you make when dealing with these types of mods. And that's when you should put your foot down, especially if you're one of the only few who actually care. People will hate it no matter what. But at the end of the day, these are just pixels on a screen, pixels that don't even have a canon age anymore.

 

If you choose to not allow any of it, that's fine and understandable. If you do choose to allow it, that's also fine. One side will always have its problematic people unfortunately, you just gotta be ready to put your foot down on what you genuinely think is the right course of action. I may not agree with a lot of the choices that were made, but I can understand your point of view to an extent.

 

I'm not sure if this is what you're saying, but these rules only apply to GameBanana. CrossWorlds Hub is not affiliated directly with GameBanana, and we currently still do not allow any NSFW mods there.

[falden]

There was a comment from yesterday which got stuck in anti-spam limbo, probably because I added links to all the mods. I'll repost it here without the links.

 

As a result of the rule change, the following mods and requests have been reinstated or can be returned to their original state:

• Gothic Rouge
• Super Sonic Sized Modpack
• Caked up Jet
• Aqua over Miku
• "Nude" female characters (excluding Cream and Sage)
• Goth Amy in dress
• Nami

[Ruby Arziendy]

1 hour ago, シャドエミの推し said:

Just upload to either this site/other R18+ sites, or an R18+ discord server. It will make it less of a headache.

Will do that then ^^

[Ruby Arziendy]

1 hour ago, SuperKerobot said:

It's always worth it if it's something you wanna do and even if it gets cut off in some places having it anywhere for the people that'd enjoy it makes it worth it too, even if it can only reach a couple of them. I probably sound a bit too optimistic there considering potential consequences for breaking some of the rules in these places though.

I mean I plan on making either a femboy or futa mod when I get time (which currently, because of work I'm barely having the energy to play the game at all x_x) so I'll be pretty much forced to be sharing it on places that aren't bitchy not only with NSFW contents but to those that have a particular diversity, hmmmm, welcoming? XD

[falden]

Can you not edit posts in this forum? Confused. Nine should also of course be considered a child character then, since it's just Tails with robot tails.

[Zorai]

34 minutes ago, falden said:

I'm not sure if this is what you're saying, but these rules only apply to GameBanana. CrossWorlds Hub is not affiliated directly with GameBanana, and we currently still do not allow any NSFW mods there.

 

I know they apply to GB only. I was mainly stating that despite what anyone says or complains about, you make the choice at the end.

[asdf732]

13 hours ago, falden said:

Hi, this is Zor.

 

Not with my main username, because _someone_ will google me, find this and somehow manage to turn it into a google doc. Just wanted to quickly clarify what happened, and introduce the new NSFW rules.

 

A few days ago I misapplied the indecent content policy on tiramizu's Brazilian Miku mod, because I was not aware that apparently every "version" of Miku is explicitly an OC and her canonical age only applies to her official character (I'm really not into Vocaloid). This caused an uproar in the comments since the mod is very popular. This (and some support tickets) also drew the attention of other site staff, who told me to make the NSFW rules more lax and in line with other game sections. 

 

That's honestly fine by me, because I already wanted to do that for weeks, but getting anything like this done is difficult because the other GMs are... not very active and don't like NSFW content, give me 2 lines of input and then nothing. Now it's just mandated, so that makes things simple.

 

Our new rule is a lot more understandable and a lot more free than the inscrutable R-SR:CW.774 (which had just been copy-pasted along with all the other game section rules from HE2 games, where barely anyone makes NSFW mods):

• Submissions containing exposed genitalia or breasts are not allowed in this game section.

To answer Catnatic's question:
Somehow you guys always manage to find the edge cases where I'm not sure what to do. I would say let's start without female nipples, see how this is received by the community, and we can see where we go from there.

 

Note, however, that our Indecent Content Policy still applies, and especially the text in red there. I know Cream and Sage are also distributed here. Those are strictly off limits to be used in a context where an 18+ filter would be required. Any violation of this kind will result in your submission being trashed without question. The ratings that require an 18+ filter are:

• Partial Nudity
• Full Nudity
• Intense Violence
• Fetishistic
• Rating Pending

See the Content Visibility Ratings page to find out what these correspond to.

 

Tails (and Nine)... depends on how he is depicted, since he is now ageless. That has been left up to my judgment.

 

There's a very good chance I will get hated for the choices I make while moderating this, so please try not to straddle the lines. Many people were already hating us for allowing the Amy Rouge mod to exist.

 

I would also like to apologize for how that XXX-Hax ban had been handled. At the time our small moderation team (and especially me) was overloaded, and our userbase is very sensitive for things like naked Miku (I've been getting harassed for over a month now for not frame 1 banning Rozabutt when they got spotted with a weird profile). And, I mean, that's normal. The server is full of children.

 

When it suddenly got publicized that Hasaki made a naked Miku mod, the chat exploded. At the same time I also got a very concerning message about your server from the person who's ban appeal I had been processing. They told me they were dipping because they had had a weird conversation with MM, who apparently saw no issue with zoosadism. At that point I made the call that this was way too dangerous for a server full of kids and we banned everyone we knew of.

 

Honestly, the real problem had been in large part management problems of our own. We had been way too lax, or rather, we were unable to keep up with the growth of the server. People were constantly posting innuendo memes in Hasaki's thread. In a public SFW server full of children. It was really not okay honestly. The situation should not have gotten to that point in the first place.

 

That being said, some bans were necessary. We simply cannot risk letting people who are into naked Cream mods run around in a chat server full of children, I'm sorry. That is just a risk you cannot take as a moderator. But we should have been more selective in our actions, and not just have banned everyone. When we banned everyone from xxx-hax we probably also banned a lot of people who weren't even there for the problematic mods.

 

I'm sorry for that.

 

 

If you have any questions about either the new rules or the other thing, feel free to ask. I'll check again tomorrow though, cause it's 5AM here.

Just to throw my two cents here since a lot has already been said.

I think it's very good that you're actually addressing the complexity of the issues here. Moderating a Discord server is much more different from moderating a modsite, and I think it's pretty clear that trying to run one like the other ultimately lead to this big dispute. I totally get wanting to keep the Discord child-safe since mixing minors and 18+ sections can get very troublesome, but that obviously shouldn't extend to the GB. 

I will say that I think banning basic nude mods is still pretty restrictive (these things can still be hidden via GB's own tools) but I'm glad that things are getting more lax on this front. Frankly, it was ridiculous to see things like Brazilian Miku or freaking Aqua from Konosuba who both feature sexual themes in their inherent design still got banned, despite being accepted and beloved as characters. 

 

I don't think anyone is seriously arguing to put Cream, Sage and Tails on that site. While you could argue simple nudity isn't sexual the odds are not in your favor, especially when it comes to child-coded characters. But characters like Amy, Blaze, Rouge and Miku who've had porn of them around for ages and are pretty much treated as ageless/adults shouldn't be treated the same way as characters who are very obviously children. Sega sure doesn't.

 

About panties, did anyone try porting SA1 Amy yet? She's got such an obvious upskirt, I think it'd be a good study-case to test the waters for slightly lewd mods. I mean, why would you restrict people from using such an iconic model when it's taken without any sexual context?

 

Ultimately I don't think any kind of restrictions could stop nude mods from being made (look at the first page of this thread) so we should probably strive for coexistence in this matter. I feel like everyone here knows NSFW mods are a bit of a special category of mods and shouldn't be treated the same way as SFW stuff, so we should all follow GB's guidelines while still making these mods accessible for those who want to download them.

 

On a previous discussion on this very topic on this thread, Catnatic (I think) said something about nude mods cluttering up the GB page could ruin a game's reputation, and while I get that sentiment (Genshin has like 3 nude mods on the GB front page every day), it'll only be a problem for the people who allow themselves to see it, and that shouldn't include minors. You won't stop anyone from lying about their age, but ultimately it's on their hands and not on the people making the content they choose to see.

[kurokoi1]

1 hour ago, falden said:

 

I would say up till bikini clothing would be in line with the rules.

 

 

No. On these child characters any outfit that would be more revealing or sexualizing than their default look will be automatically rejected.

 

 

It is part of the Indecent Content Rules. If a character is known to be a certain age, that age applies.

 

Concerning Tails: you are correct, and I may also have misunderstood some instructions myself. I think it's not a good idea to start judging things on a case by case basis, so let's make a clear rule that does not involve opinions and ad hoc judgments: In this game, Tails looks young. So let's just add him to the list of children. It will also prevent public outrage.

 

The following are considered child characters for which the non-sexualization clause applies:

• Cream
• Sage
• Tails
• Charmy (forgot about the annoying bee who is also obviously child coded)

I will keep this post a purely informational post and thus not address your other paragraphs in this one.

 

 

I'm not sure if this is what you're saying, but these rules only apply to GameBanana. CrossWorlds Hub is not affiliated directly with GameBanana, and we currently still do not allow any NSFW mods there.

maria is safe,oh yeah!