falden Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 39 minutes ago, asdf732 said: Just to throw my two cents here since a lot has already been said. I think it's very good that you're actually addressing the complexity of the issues here. Moderating a Discord server is much more different from moderating a modsite, and I think it's pretty clear that trying to run one like the other ultimately lead to this big dispute. I totally get wanting to keep the Discord child-safe since mixing minors and 18+ sections can get very troublesome, but that obviously shouldn't extend to the GB. I will say that I think banning basic nude mods is still pretty restrictive (these things can still be hidden via GB's own tools) but I'm glad that things are getting more lax on this front. Frankly, it was ridiculous to see things like Brazilian Miku or freaking Aqua from Konosuba who both feature sexual themes in their inherent design still got banned, despite being accepted and beloved as characters. I don't think anyone is seriously arguing to put Cream, Sage and Tails on that site. While you could argue simple nudity isn't sexual the odds are not in your favor, especially when it comes to child-coded characters. But characters like Amy, Blaze, Rouge and Miku who've had porn of them around for ages and are pretty much treated as ageless/adults shouldn't be treated the same way as characters who are very obviously children. Sega sure doesn't. About panties, did anyone try porting SA1 Amy yet? She's got such an obvious upskirt, I think it'd be a good study-case to test the waters for slightly lewd mods. I mean, why would you restrict people from using such an iconic model when it's taken without any sexual context? Ultimately I don't think any kind of restrictions could stop nude mods from being made (look at the first page of this thread) so we should probably strive for coexistence in this matter. I feel like everyone here knows NSFW mods are a bit of a special category of mods and shouldn't be treated the same way as SFW stuff, so we should all follow GB's guidelines while still making these mods accessible for those who want to download them. On a previous discussion on this very topic on this thread, Catnatic (I think) said something about nude mods cluttering up the GB page could ruin a game's reputation, and while I get that sentiment (Genshin has like 3 nude mods on the GB front page every day), it'll only be a problem for the people who allow themselves to see it, and that shouldn't include minors. You won't stop anyone from lying about their age, but ultimately it's on their hands and not on the people making the content they choose to see. Ironically, while people had lambasted me for making biased and opinionated moderation decisions for the withholds of those mods specifically, those were actually two mods where I had made a decision directly based on the base indecent content rule, and not our kind of broken SR-CW.774. As mentioned above, I had withheld the Miku mod due to a misunderstanding of how Miku's age works. For Aqua the withhold was discussed for almost an hour. Her physical age is 16. By lore she is ageless. Which age do we take? Assume we use the physical age, now the problem is that the rule says you cannot sexualize a minor more than her default appearance. But her default appearance is implied "not wearing any underwear", however in the anime this is obscured with camera angles. You can't do that in a game because the user can move their camera how they want. So actually the submitter made her less sexualized? But for some reason explicitly adding a G-string makes it feel more sexualized... But we can't just let them submit a fully nude model, we don't allow those and that would be super sexualized... Also her genital area looked reddened. Does this imply engorgement? Engorged labia are not allowed by the indecent content policy. (This was probably again a misunderstanding on my side of what this rule entails though. "Engorged labia" in this case probably means very clearly visible labia that are engorged, not implied engorgement. But I'd have to check with the moderators to be honest.) The thing is that while moderating SFW mods is relatively easy (just check if there are screenshots, check if all the assets are credited, check if there's no nonsense in the description), for NSFW mods it's quite a bit harder because there's a bunch of judgment calls that you suddenly have to weigh, mostly based on experience. Something which is just not there for SFW mods. We of course made it a lot harder on ourselves with the broken SR-CW.774 rule. After talking with the admins yesterday however I think I was mostly applying the rules too literally/strictly. Then there's Nock who just randomly jumps over my head and withholds something because he's 17 and "it's clear cut" when it really isn't, because you're not supposed to moderate on gut feelings. 1 hour ago, kurokoi1 said: maria is safe,oh yeah! I have autism and can't detect jokes all that well. I'm assuming this is a joke, but just to be clear: of course that list only includes the vanilla characters, if you introduce skins for new characters we'll have to check those on a case by case basis.
Zorai Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 29 minutes ago, falden said: The thing is that while moderating SFW mods is relatively easy (just check if there are screenshots, check if all the assets are credited, check if there's no nonsense in the description), for NSFW mods it's quite a bit harder because there's a bunch of judgment calls that you suddenly have to weigh, mostly based on experience. Something which is just not there for SFW mods. We of course made it a lot harder on ourselves with the broken SR-CW.774 rule. After talking with the admins yesterday however I think I was mostly applying the rules too literally/strictly. Then there's Nock who just randomly jumps over my head and withholds something because he's 17 and "it's clear cut" when it really isn't, because you're not supposed to moderate on gut feelings. If someone is going over your head and doing things based on "gut feelings", then that person, imo, shouldn't be on the team. As it causes problematic issues that could've otherwise been resolved without issue. That, and no one under the age, 17 or not, should be on a moderator team imo. Its important to have actual discussions and look at things logically. Take Aqua for example, since you've used her already. She's a goddess, and thus, ageless. Physically she's 16 but mentally she's an adult with a massive ego, which those types of people do exist in real life (I've met a few unfortunately). Logically speaking, it should be fine for her to be in panties, but that's just me, and not a full team of people going about it in an mature and logical manner. 2
lovelydaytosee Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 49 minutes ago, kuromicola said: Make your voices heard I actually agree with Zor here. Let's first see where the lighter NSFW goes before we do the full on nudity stuff. Easing in makes more sense to me 2
OmniShamble Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 (edited) In other news, new Amy and Blaze Mods by Colacoot on Twitter. https://x.com/Colacoot/status/1986205733126610969 Edited November 5, 2025 by OmniShamble Deleted repeat links + add images 13
Cunkles Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, falden said: Then there's Nock who just randomly jumps over my head and withholds something because he's 17 and "it's clear cut" when it really isn't, because you're not supposed to moderate on gut feelings. Gonna be real with you, you guys *need* to oust Nock and fast. A high schooler does not need to be on a moderation team for a website that regularly features adult content on its front page, nor does a high schooler need to be making decisions like what kind of suggestive content to ban. They are not a legal adult, and I don't care if it's a situation where "they have a birthday coming up" or anything like that. Banning suggestive mods of characters like Cream is incredibly hollow when you have an actual real life minor on your team, being exposed to this type of content. That could land everyone involved in serious trouble. Edited November 5, 2025 by Cunkles 7
falden Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 You bring up a good point. I've never been a proponent for having minors in moderator positions in the first place, but of course I did not assign him to that position either. By the very nature of the role you come into contact with things a minor should really not come into contact with at all. I will in any case tell him I will personally handle the NSFW submissions because this is not something that should be handled by a him. 2
edendowner Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 Thanks for actually covering this. Banning nsfw altogether was definitely not the way to go. I'd like to reiterate something that's been said a few times; you have to actively enable and click on nsfw content to see it on Gamebanana. If you don't have it unblurred/unhidden, or you simply don't click it, you won't see it. It should absolutely not bother people; it's their fault for clicking something they don't like, yeah? 1
Catnatic Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 (edited) 5 hours ago, asdf732 said: On a previous discussion on this very topic on this thread, Catnatic (I think) said something about nude mods cluttering up the GB page could ruin a game's reputation, and while I get that sentiment (Genshin has like 3 nude mods on the GB front page every day), it'll only be a problem for the people who allow themselves to see it, and that shouldn't include minors. You won't stop anyone from lying about their age, but ultimately it's on their hands and not on the people making the content they choose to see. 26 minutes ago, edendowner said: Thanks for actually covering this. Banning nsfw altogether was definitely not the way to go. I'd like to reiterate something that's been said a few times; you have to actively enable and click on nsfw content to see it on Gamebanana. If you don't have it unblurred/unhidden, or you simply don't click it, you won't see it. It should absolutely not bother people; it's their fault for clicking something they don't like, yeah? On GameBanana, mild/suggestive/softcore NSFW mods are visible by default. They'll be blurred but you're not required an account, you only needed to accept the warning that it's sensitive content to view them. These kinds of mods will show up, even without an account, when you're browsing through the mod page of the game which can be uncomfortable and unsuitable for some people. This does not include anything explicit like anything 'hardcore' like exposed genitals or very fetishistic mods, they'll be hidden by default and requires an account. I do think it's valid to not clog up the mod page with blurred suggestive mods and that it should be handled the same way how Nexus hides NSFW mods altogether by default. Remember that the Sonic franchise has massive kid appeal and there will be plenty of minors browsing that site to mod their favourite games. 18 hours ago, senkougami said: Dude's pretty good at using flowery language to hide the fact he's dodging accountability Considering that the man is confirmed to have autism, that's actually par for the course honestly. I have an autistic friend who's exactly like that, he always means well but he typed in an unnecessary flowery way. It took us a while to help him get into the habit of typing in a concise manner for casual conversations again. 6 hours ago, falden said: Can you not edit posts in this forum? Confused. Nine should also of course be considered a child character then, since it's just Tails with robot tails. The three dots on the top right corner of your posts has an "Edit" option. 4 hours ago, falden said: 5 hours ago, kurokoi1 said: maria is safe,oh yeah! I have autism and can't detect jokes all that well. I'm assuming this is a joke, but just to be clear: of course that list only includes the vanilla characters, if you introduce skins for new characters we'll have to check those on a case by case basis. I think that was indeed sarcasm. It's pretty obvious that any non-vanilla character that are canonically or portrayed to be underaged shouldn't be subjected to anything NSFW there. 4 hours ago, falden said: Then there's Nock who just randomly jumps over my head and withholds something because he's 17 and "it's clear cut" when it really isn't, because you're not supposed to moderate on gut feelings. I don't think that's really a good idea to have someone curate and moderate these kinds of mods in the first place when they're underaged. At the age of 17, they still wouldn't be quite mature enough to handle these kinds of mods with nuance, not that they should be subjected to anyway since that's legally problematic. Anyway, I just want to say thank you for taking the time to communicating with us, clarifying the rules, and apologising and explaining why bans had to be made back then. If you've seen my earlier posts on this thread where I criticised how the CrossWorlds Hub and GameBanana handled and treated NSFW artists and users, I apologise if I've come across as harsh and bitter, I was just frustrated when that happened and felt that policing people outside of your own communities was excessive. Regardless, I do respect what you're mostly doing as I acknowledge that being a moderator in these circumstances is incredibly tricky and I understand tough calls had to be made for the benefit of the greater modding community, even if that comes at your own expense from either sides which I know can be mentally exhausting. Edited November 6, 2025 by Catnatic 1
Equa_Cetera Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 Honestly, I'm glad to see this nsfw thing end in a civil manner, I've mainly been lurking here not wanting to interact because I didn't wanna somehow wind up banned on the main server but I'm more confident in chit-chatting after this 5
lovelydaytosee Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 27 minutes ago, Catnatic said: On GameBanana, mild/suggestive/softcore NSFW mods are visible by default. They'll be blurred but you're not required an account, you only needed to accept the warning that it's sensitive content to view them. These kinds of mods will show up, even without an account, when you're browsing through the mod page of the game which can be uncomfortable and unsuitable for some people. This does not include anything explicit like anything 'hardcore' like exposed genitals or very fetishistic mods, they'll be hidden by default and requires an account. I do think it's valid to not clog up the mod page with blurred suggestive mods and that it should be handled the same way how Nexus hides NSFW mods altogether by default. Remember that the Sonic franchise has massive kid appeal and there will be plenty of minors browsing that site to mod their favourite games. This is exactly why I've gone and suggested what I suppose i will call "super soft withhold" as a suggestion on site ideas. I do think this is actually an issue that should be addressed by GB. I think it would be for the benefit of everyone. Mods get thier clean pages, we dont get hyper tension moments and stress from having stuff removed from downloading.
pico1201 Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 On 11/4/2025 at 4:02 PM, goonbro18 said: Should be easy once someone figures out how to get it working as a game model and not an animation/render model only. The blueprint is there with the shorts and sports bra options the model comes with, but someone would need to do some customization to have it be accurate to the riders design. I meant the shorts design, but yeah longer pants like in the actual riders outfit would be really cool
pico1201 Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 On 10/23/2025 at 9:46 AM, hentaursenpai said: We absolutely NEED to see these bitchhogs modded in at some point. CTRL-Z's designs would be perfect, both clothed and nude. The best animation or this series was low-key the cream scene X333 4
NovaNeptune4 Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 On 10/28/2025 at 10:22 PM, ProDaHornyGamer said: Kansane Teto with a jacket. This mod is based off the Miku mod. Since I used the Miku mod as the base, the credits goes to Haise Sasaki. That Miku mod is awesome. I also use the curvy model for Teto. I think it makes her look good. The credits goes to verbea21 for the curvy model. I tried fixing the cracks on the curvy model. The jiggle physics should work too. Enjoy the mod, guys. NSFW Thick Teto Jacket No Bikini.rar 93.83 MB · 8 downloads NSFW Thick Teto Jacket with a Bikini.rar 93.74 MB · 10 downloads NSFW Teto Jacket with a Bikini.rar 93.78 MB · 9 downloads NSFW Teto Jacket No Bikini.rar 93.8 MB · 7 downloads NSFW Curvy Teto Jacket with a Bikini.rar 93.89 MB · 7 downloads Cool that you got physics working on the Curvy model! I'm still waiting on a jiggle version of that with Miku. Maybe I'm dumb and haven't found it, but I've only seen the release of it without the physics.
nurvi Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 5 hours ago, OmniShamble said: In other news, new Amy and Blaze Mods by Colacoot on Twitter. https://x.com/Colacoot/status/1986205733126610969 It's finally out! Time to make some AI edits for them. 5
Silv8 Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 6 hours ago, OmniShamble said: In other news, new Amy and Blaze Mods by Colacoot on Twitter. https://x.com/Colacoot/status/1986205733126610969 YEEEEEEEEAH BABY, THATS WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR, THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! 1
agagagaggh Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 7 hours ago, OmniShamble said: In other news, new Amy and Blaze Mods by Colacoot on Twitter. https://x.com/Colacoot/status/1986205733126610969 ouughh I've been waiting for these theyre so good
ProDaHornyGamer Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 2 hours ago, NovaNeptune4 said: Cool that you got physics working on the Curvy model! I'm still waiting on a jiggle version of that with Miku. Maybe I'm dumb and haven't found it, but I've only seen the release of it without the physics. I can do it later. It shoudn't take me that long.
Mistic7 Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 7 hours ago, OmniShamble said: In other news, new Amy and Blaze Mods by Colacoot on Twitter. https://x.com/Colacoot/status/1986205733126610969 While I do like the mod, I would've prefered just Blaze with the same in game model with just with an ass and that's it. Her head looks off to me ngl.
gigatiddylove Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 I dont really understand the outrage with GB deleting nsfw mods, it doesn't really effect people because clearly there are other places to get nsfw mods like here or the discord (which of someone could drop an invite that would be appreciated.) all that does imo is drive people away from using GB in the future which again don't really see why that matters, if your going to be strict with censorship its will drive traffic away thats how its worked since writing was first invented, and people will simply just go to places with less rules. anyways this is just a roundabout way of me asking for a discord link...
ClosetOfDoom Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 19 minutes ago, gigatiddylove said: I dont really understand the outrage with GB deleting nsfw mods, it doesn't really effect people because clearly there are other places to get nsfw mods like here or the discord (which of someone could drop an invite that would be appreciated.) all that does imo is drive people away from using GB in the future which again don't really see why that matters, if your going to be strict with censorship its will drive traffic away thats how its worked since writing was first invented, and people will simply just go to places with less rules. anyways this is just a roundabout way of me asking for a discord link... Because inconsistency in moderation bothers modders. It's less about the consumers, more about the creators. 3
goonbro18 Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 13 hours ago, OmniShamble said: In other news, new Amy and Blaze Mods by Colacoot on Twitter. https://x.com/Colacoot/status/1986205733126610969 These are really good my only nitpicks are that they went a little far with the chest skin. Its taking up way too much space imo, I think it could have been shaped better or made into a heart. That and last time I saw the jiggle physics for Blaze were a bit excessive to me since shes in a tight suit but I dont know if they've been tweaked since then. Overall great mod, just kinda hope someone here can do a little texture edit for Amy
NineNineNinetyNine Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 On 11/4/2025 at 7:43 PM, Catnatic said: Hypothetically, that would allow me to share my SFW/featureless versions of my nude mods for Amy, Blaze, and Cream, but I'm not sure if it's worth the mental energy to put up with whatever childish or disrespectful shit the community may say in the comments. Especially if it's about Cream even with her having a cartoony bean body. Cream is a problem but I really think you should upload your SFW nude mods up there. The best way to show this isnt a problem to others is to try it! There's always going to be debate over nude Amy but whenever a piece of SFW nude art gets popular its usually more liked than disliked. Blaze barely has any boobs in canon so theres even less to complain about there. I would say to upload those two and see what happens. If those go well then nude Wave wont be a problem either. The real test is Nude rouge since she canonically doesn't have any white patterned body fur but its possible her skin is actually also fur in canon. But an SFW version of her would only go over well if you made all the others first. Maybe her default style on GameBanana could keep her chestpiece while her alt style is completely suitless. Having Rouge not be full nude right away could make a better first impression to the mod and NGL its also pretty hot in its own right. SFW nude Cream may not ever be allowed on GB but anyone who wants to complete the full nude set can find it if they look hard enough. 1
goonbro18 Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 2 hours ago, NineNineNinetyNine said: Cream is a problem but I really think you should upload your SFW nude mods up there. The best way to show this isnt a problem to others is to try it! There's always going to be debate over nude Amy but whenever a piece of SFW nude art gets popular its usually more liked than disliked. Blaze barely has any boobs in canon so theres even less to complain about there. I would say to upload those two and see what happens. If those go well then nude Wave wont be a problem either. The real test is Nude rouge since she canonically doesn't have any white patterned body fur but its possible her skin is actually also fur in canon. But an SFW version of her would only go over well if you made all the others first. Maybe her default style on GameBanana could keep her chestpiece while her alt style is completely suitless. Having Rouge not be full nude right away could make a better first impression to the mod and NGL its also pretty hot in its own right. SFW nude Cream may not ever be allowed on GB but anyone who wants to complete the full nude set can find it if they look hard enough. I dont think canon really matters. People have drawn Amy, Blaze, Vanilla, etc with belly patterns like Sonic for decades at this point even though they dont have any, and for whatever reason when we do know (like Whisper), then people give them a solid color body. for a nude Rouge, the 2 options are just making her featureless or putting white fur where the naughty bits would be, just enough so they dont conflict with her costumes that show skin but not fur in any way.
Haise Sasaki Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 Blaze Nude_P.zipHere it is nude blaze mod 11
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