Crash when load current save, yet can load in fine with older?

[smudge78]

If anyone that knows what they are doing could look over my log and let me know what may be causing this I'd very much appreciate it:) It started happening after I edited the female nif's for breast collision. Its more of a minor annoyance as I can load the save before the current one just fine.

 

[TheDriedFinger]

Whenever you crash when directly loading save, but can load it just fine by first loading a previous save, its almost certainly not any single mod causing it. Think of the problem like this. When you load the save directly, your game tries to load a bunch of stuff all at the same time and it will often just give up if the save is relatively old because there's just too much, which leads to the CTD. When you start a new game or load a previous save, and then load the latest save, the game has a chance to load a bit of stuff first and then load the rest, which decreases the risk of a CTD. It is certainly possible that adding collision was the straw that broke the camel's back (actually, adding collision is a pretty heavy straw), which makes your game just give up if you try to load the latest save. If you are using Live Another Life, why not make it a habit to start a new game and then load your save?

[smudge78]

Whenever you crash when directly loading save, but can load it just fine by first loading a previous save, its almost certainly not any single mod causing it. Think of the problem like this. When you load the save directly, your game tries to load a bunch of stuff all at the same time and it will often just give up if the save is relatively old because there's just too much, which leads to the CTD. When you start a new game or load a previous save, and then load the latest save, the game has a chance to load a bit of stuff first and then load the rest, which decreases the risk of a CTD. It is certainly possible that adding collision was the straw that broke the camel's back (actually, adding collision is a pretty heavy straw), which makes your game just give up if you try to load the latest save. If you are using Live Another Life, why not make it a habit to start a new game and then load your save?

 

Makes sense. Weird thing is I used crap cleaner and the problem hasn't been happening again....yet. I did notice once the game actually loaded  lydia was T-posed, then crash.

[DUBALADO]

The problem may be the last version of the mod HDT, 12-29, if you're running Skyrim Hair Physics Project (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/47000/?) HdtPhysicsExtensions.dll file replaces the one by an oldest version ... the 11.22. If you're also using RaceMenu Overlay Compilation (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/48705/?) This mod is incompatible with RaceMenu (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/29624/? ) and causes crashes ... Remove it, is excellent but remove it.

Each time you make a quick save, make a quick load... F5, 1 second, F9...

I do not know if it's the final solution, but it has proved to me until now. (sorry the english)

[Uriel]

RaceMenu Overlay Compilation is incompatible with RaceMenu?

[DUBALADO]

Causes problems with nioverride and nioverride.dll file ...in the SKSE folder, deleted them is the solution... but the freckles erased too... so it is useless (sorry the english)

[Uriel]

RaceMenu Overlay Compilation is a plugin for Race Menu mod, that uses nioverride.dll. And all of this works absolutely fine.

[smudge78]

I'm not using racemenu overlay but I am using HDT 12-29. Should I revert to older HDT?

[DUBALADO]

RaceMenu Overlay Compilation is a plugin for Race Menu mod, that uses nioverride.dll. And all of this works absolutely fine.

 

I never said it was the final solution, just a way that I avoided crashes and bugs ... and as we say in Argentina, "el que se quema con leche, cuando ve la vaca llora".. ("when you burn with milk, you cry when you see a cow")

 

 

[smudge78]

Ok, took out the HDT meshes, replaced em etc. Its still happening, but I think I may know what mod is causing it and I have removed it. But now I have another question the mod is removed but its title still remains in the MCM, is there anyway to remove it from there?

[smudge78]

K, apparently I was wrong about which mod was causing it. Either way after extensive testing the mod causing the issue is amazing follower tweaks. Only I have no idea why, I've never had this problem with AFT before I don't know how to find what if anything it is conflicting with?

[smudge78]

*sigh* It wasn't AFT. I have at least narrowed down whats causing the problem in game. If I load into an interior where there is a follower vanilla or otherwise "if" they are loaded in the T-pose a CTD shortly follows. I can load in other areas where there is no follower but there are NPC's fine. Anyways, heres my load order and log and a screenshot if anyone wants to have a look.

 

[smudge78]

Is there a program by any chance that can decipher the log into dummy terms?

[TheDriedFinger]

Is there a program by any chance that can decipher the log into dummy terms?

Here's how you make sense of it. Remember that it is a log that tells you what Papyrus did/tried and failed to do. So, especially, when you look for the reason that your game crashed, look towards the bottom. Sometimes, the answer will be right there, indicating that some sort of a fatal error occurred, and telling you what caused it. If this is not present, you have to look for lines that indicate a bunch of errors, like the game trying to fill a bunch of properties to scripts that aren't there anymore. If there are a ton of error lines grouped together, you've probably found your problem.

 

Also, your log suggests that you uninstalled about a bajillion mods, which accounts for why your game can't find a lot of the properties and objects it's looking for. Your Papyrus then gets tired and gives up. That's all I can tell from it. Sometimes, your log isn't going to give you all the answers. It might not be those errors specifically that cause the crash, but they aren't helping because they are causing your Papyrus enough grief that it's about to go over the edge and call it a day.

[smudge78]

 

Is there a program by any chance that can decipher the log into dummy terms?

Here's how you make sense of it. Remember that it is a log that tells you what Papyrus did/tried and failed to do. So, especially, when you look for the reason that your game crashed, look towards the bottom. Sometimes, the answer will be right there, indicating that some sort of a fatal error occurred, and telling you what caused it. If this is not present, you have to look for lines that indicate a bunch of errors, like the game trying to fill a bunch of properties to scripts that aren't there anymore. If there are a ton of error lines grouped together, you've probably found your problem.

 

Also, your log suggests that you uninstalled about a bajillion mods, which accounts for why your game can't find a lot of the properties and objects it's looking for. Your Papyrus then gets tired and gives up. That's all I can tell from it. Sometimes, your log isn't going to give you all the answers. It might not be those errors specifically that cause the crash, but they aren't helping because they are causing your Papyrus enough grief that it's about to go over the edge and call it a day.

 

 

The weird part is I figured I'd create a new character with no mods active and then activate them one at a time testing with a follower. Obviously the first mod I tested was amazing follower tweaks, recruited a follower, saved, loaded( in cell with follower), crash. So I went back to earlier save( no mods active ), did the quest line until I got lydia and house, saved loaded( in cell with lydia ) and it crashed again. So I left lydia in house, went to the bar( forgot name ) where Janessa is, saved, loaded about a dozen times with no problems, but as soon as I hired her, same thing, save, load  crash. So it seems to start once I've recruited someone with or without mods active. Based on that it doesn't seem to be a mod or lack of, which has me stumped:( As I said earlier the follower( recruited or just hanging out ) will be in a T-pose, then crash. I have no special animations installed outside the ones that sexlab and it various plug ins have added, everything is up to date, all animations play fine.

 

I normally don't play with followers but noticed the problem in dawnguard when serena has to follow you and while I can just make sure to save nowhere near a follower its just an annoyance. I will study the log more though.

[smudge78]

Tried starting a new game with all mod active and during the carriage scene/conversation I got a screen message that my follower could not accompany me here lol. Gonna track this whole mess down if it kills me

[sadpanda]

can someone please help me these are the mods i have installed. the game crashes if i try to save it after having sex, If i don't save it works fine can someone please help thank you

 

the problem is the game crashes if i try to save it after pc character had sex Please help

all the mods are up to date

 

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[CGi]

1. Use spoilers when posting long lists like Load Orders or Papyrus logs.
2. This question has already been asked a houndred times in almost any SL mod thread, the SL thread itself and in the support thread and has been answered as many times.
3. Disable the FreeCam in SexLabs MCM menu and you should be good to go or try the patch Ashal released. The patch was burried by alot of posts (many with your question), but you should be able to find it.

 

Btw: i don't see Frostfall in your list, so you can disable the Frostfall addon for SD.