ireniqs Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Hello I have strange problem with CLS mod. All NPCs from this mod have ulgy faces and wrong textures on it. Maybe some other mods are interrupt with CLS and cause this problem, but i dunno what should i do. Please help me. Mod works great but this faces... Where can i find race mod (Maid) used to this mod? Where are those files? Can i change it somehow or repair files? I give u my Load Order and screenshot from game. Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm xeoex.esm All Natural Base.esm BetterMusicSystem.esm Lovers with PK.esm BreakUndies.esm LoversCreature.esm TantrivayliaChimer.esm CM Partners.esm Toaster Says Share v3.esm DIM Elves Of Lineage II Retex.esm x117race.esm xeorace.esm xeoracex117.esm ShieldOnBack.esm VipCxjControllableSkeleton.esm !Oblivion_PL.esp Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp All Natural.esp All Natural - SI.esp Better_Water-1830.esp Realistic Water.esp Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp All Natural - Real Lights.esp WindowLightingSystem.esp MaleBodyReplacerV5Beta.esp VipCxj_HighHeels.esp ak_testhighheels.esp AW_Wings.esp Blackwire.esp BisPainBringer.esp BSK Break Undies.esp Dancing Shadow Rose Break Undies.esp FemaleImperialDragonCuirass.esp Full Metal Bikini.esp Full Metal Bikini Light.esp GothicGirls.esp Lady Elegance.esp Lady Flirt.esp LittleCarmine.esp PEDress.esp PoseBooks.esp Shadowsilk.esp VA_FemmeDaedricHelmet.esp BisSP_RHH_2.esp VipCxjHHTest.esp Birdy.esp Bis_Pom.esp Diva.esp Fingernails For HGEC.esp Forbidden.esp Neo's LandCH.esp Neo's Morrigan.esp R18PN - Amy Armor Set.esp R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp R18PN - Lingeries.esp Rockh00 Nouhime.esp StockClothingArmorBBBHGEC_Standard_ECupLBotPPN.esp StockClothingArmorHGECnormalD.esp StockClothingArmorHGECFighterD.esp DianoArmor2.esp AkarinaCottage.esp Amen'thalas.esp Amen'thalas - AN Patch.esp Asylum.esp Azure_Palace.esp BlackMarshHall.esp Casa Bella Vista.esp DragonClawCastle.esp BridFetishGirl.esp GreenGables.esp Landscape house Final48C.esp Mage'sSkyHouse.esp MushroomManor.esp Reaper's The Necromancer's Tower.esp Sbturm_Penthouse.esp Tantrivaylia.esp __thermae.esp Tona's_ModsStore.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Knights_fem.esp Castle_Knightstone.esp Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp Millstone_Farm.esp VToy.esp LoversFSE.esp LoversBCMSound.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversTachiCat2.esp LoversSlavePlay.esp LoversNTRburglar.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversFOV.esp LoversLight.esp LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp LoversHideMenus.esp Nude Spell.esp Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp VipTestControllableSkeletonall.esp Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp SetBody.esp MidasSpells.esp Oblivion XP.esp LoversOblivionXP.esp CTAddPose_osr1.esp CTAddPose_osr2.esp CTAddPose_osr3.esp CTAddPose_Le01.esp CTAddPose_Le02.esp CTAddPose_OTPair.esp CTAddPose_OTpair2.esp CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp CTAddPose_bondage_sex-2.esp CTAddPose_2ch_(Hentai).esp CTAddPose_Gaff_01.esp CTAddPose_Gaff_02.esp CTAddPose_glock3.esp CTAddPose_gobu.esp CTAddPose_Dsk(erori)Pose.esp CTAddPose_Dsk(erori-2)Pose.esp CTAddPose_DskPose.esp CTAddPose_SPB_01.esp CTAddPose SPB 02.esp Goma Pose 1.esp Goma Pose 2.esp Goma Pose 3.esp Goma Pose 4.esp Goma Pose 5.esp Goma Pose 6.esp Goma Pose 7.esp Goma Pose 8.esp Goma Pose 9.esp Goma Pose 10.esp Goma Pose 16.esp Chain it!.esp geechan_SimplePose.esp NaRae Pose - 01.esp Woman's Move.esp Vanilla_Race_Overhaul.esp CM Partners.esp n_Dywyll_Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - Sc.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp x117race.esp DKImperials.esp Chocolate Elves.esp SuccubusRace.esp Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp CM Partners NPC.esp CM Partners More NPCs.esp CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp DN13CMP_-_Little_Ladies&Lords.esp AMB.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Naked apron.esp LoversMB2.esp Vestment.esp R18PN - Mizugi +.esp VipCxjControllableSkeletonIdleFixed.esp ONE PIECE.esp LoversAOMPilloryBack.esp SPB E Kunoichi.esp SPB B Hunter Suit.esp LoversModule_OBSEv0020.esp LtH_Ruhester_Dom_Fortress.esp PAPlayer1500Eng.esp ERI Rings Plus.esp DskRings.esp SArmor.esp soka.esp 022 MPW E Bishouen Suit.esp crusaderdress.esp Asuta.esp Apprentice Sorceress.esp Set Body Expanded.esp ANBDrapeTop.esp Dollparts' Cherry Brooke Grove.esp A2WitchDress.esp 1SB_LethalMajestyOutfit.esp tera_hf16.esp HGEC Latex Ninja Armor.esp yangyang_HWDress.esp Tal'Ratha.esp CTAddPose_Gaz.esp Swida house.esp Saint Gladiator.esp Lady Victoria Secret EV.esp MenaceoutfitHgec.esp HentaiMOEdress.esp 015 MPW TsunderX Set.esp CTAddPose_Chawan.esp Dragon Song.esp DMHHHarmor.esp CTAddPose_Mfethi.esp NaRae Pose - 02.esp BBYggdrasill.esp Lady Rappelz.esp HeavyKnight.esp LoliMaid.esp yangyang_Stockings.esp yangyang_hhshoes.esp Crusader.esp Cutlass.esp Arshes Nei Armor.esp SPB DMMC Ribbon Armor 1_5.esp BetterOrcs v1.02.esp BetterOrcs v1.02(small teeth).esp Real_Mannequin.esp DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp ElaborateEyes.esp Ahh and i forgot to say. This ugly face has got Claudia (Augustia it's fine) and as u can see from screenshot all Maids. (Sorry for bad English) EDIT: Tried to move VToy.esp to bottom of the list but this not resolved problem...
cyb3r Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 the issue is xeosp move xeoex.esp deadlast in your order and deselect it when creating a bashed patch that should sort the issue also move the bashed patch lower in the order most of the ones that are below are ones that aren't recognized by boss and put after your bashed patch lovers animations should be deadlast ie just above xeoex.esp
ireniqs Posted December 18, 2011 Author Posted December 18, 2011 the issue is xeosp move xeoex.esp deadlast in your order and deselect it when creating a bashed patch that should sort the issue also move the bashed patch lower in the order most of the ones that are below are ones that aren't recognized by boss and put after your bashed patch lovers animations should be deadlast ie just above xeoex.esp I did what u are suggesting and no good results (if i did that correct...). Can u explain me more how to rebuild this bash patch? I checked in google, that i need to click right mouse button on bash patch, than click rebuild and what next? What should i check in opened window? There is some kind of list with many imports, tweaks and so on. Sorry but i'm totally noob with this things. I can run mods, change order and maybe modify some nif files but that's all... EDIT: OK, I downloaded newest version of Wry Bash. There were checked all needed options in bash patch and i rebuilt it. This bash patch repair me in game many things with the exception of race VToy Maids... only this race in this mod is bad, the rest is good...
cyb3r Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 could you post your new loadorder? there's probably something small that's been overlooked (ps i know it bites i just reinstalled 60gb worth of mods again you learn to love bain installers by the end of that XD)
maxheartflan Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 lol ugly indeed XD hahahaha anyway, the problem is in the head model. the face texture ( which is obviously from x117 mod) and the vanilla head model do not match. just match the head and the texture in CS, that's it. i mean, you have to edit the CLS's esp.
ireniqs Posted December 20, 2011 Author Posted December 20, 2011 could you post your new loadorder? there's probably something small that's been overlooked (ps i know it bites i just reinstalled 60gb worth of mods again you learn to love bain installers by the end of that XD) Dunno if i did this load order correct but here u are: (yeah i reinstalled my mods and game 2 times 55GB Oblivion folder... i don't want to do this now because i'm playing Skyrim and in near future i unistall Oblivion for good. i want only to finish CLS because it's realy nice mod.) Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm xeoex.esm All Natural Base.esm BetterMusicSystem.esm Lovers with PK.esm BreakUndies.esm LoversCreature.esm TantrivayliaChimer.esm CM Partners.esm Toaster Says Share v3.esm DIM Elves Of Lineage II Retex.esm x117race.esm xeorace.esm xeoracex117.esm ShieldOnBack.esm VipCxjControllableSkeleton.esm !Oblivion_PL.esp xeosp++.esp Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp xeoexpeople.esp Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp All Natural.esp All Natural - SI.esp Realistic Water.esp Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp All Natural - Real Lights.esp WindowLightingSystem.esp VipCxj_HighHeels.esp ak_testhighheels.esp AW_Wings.esp Blackwire.esp BisPainBringer.esp BSK Break Undies.esp Dancing Shadow Rose Break Undies.esp Full Metal Bikini.esp Full Metal Bikini Light.esp GothicGirls.esp Lady Elegance.esp Lady Flirt.esp LittleCarmine.esp PEDress.esp PoseBooks.esp Shadowsilk.esp BisSP_RHH_2.esp VipCxjHHTest.esp Birdy.esp Bis_Pom.esp Diva.esp Fingernails For HGEC.esp Forbidden.esp Neo's LandCH.esp Neo's Morrigan.esp R18PN - Amy Armor Set.esp R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp R18PN - Lingeries.esp Rockh00 Nouhime.esp StockClothingArmorBBBHGEC_Standard_ECupLBotPPN.esp StockClothingArmorHGECnormalD.esp StockClothingArmorHGECFighterD.esp DianoArmor2.esp AkarinaCottage.esp Amen'thalas.esp Amen'thalas - AN Patch.esp Asylum.esp Azure_Palace.esp BlackMarshHall.esp Casa Bella Vista.esp DragonClawCastle.esp BridFetishGirl.esp GreenGables.esp Landscape house Final48C.esp Mage'sSkyHouse.esp MushroomManor.esp Reaper's The Necromancer's Tower.esp Sbturm_Penthouse.esp Tantrivaylia.esp __thermae.esp Tona's_ModsStore.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Castle_Knightstone.esp Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp Millstone_Farm.esp LoversFSE.esp LoversBCMSound.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversTachiCat2.esp LoversSlavePlay.esp LoversNTRburglar.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversFOV.esp LoversLight.esp LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp LoversHideMenus.esp Nude Spell.esp Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp VipTestControllableSkeletonall.esp Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp SetBody.esp MidasSpells.esp Oblivion XP.esp LoversOblivionXP.esp CTAddPose_osr1.esp CTAddPose_osr2.esp CTAddPose_osr3.esp CTAddPose_Le01.esp CTAddPose_Le02.esp CTAddPose_OTPair.esp CTAddPose_OTpair2.esp CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp CTAddPose_bondage_sex-2.esp CTAddPose_2ch_(Hentai).esp CTAddPose_Gaff_01.esp CTAddPose_Gaff_02.esp CTAddPose_glock3.esp CTAddPose_gobu.esp CTAddPose_Dsk(erori)Pose.esp CTAddPose_Dsk(erori-2)Pose.esp CTAddPose_DskPose.esp CTAddPose_SPB_01.esp CTAddPose SPB 02.esp Goma Pose 1.esp Goma Pose 2.esp Goma Pose 3.esp Goma Pose 4.esp Goma Pose 5.esp Goma Pose 6.esp Goma Pose 7.esp Goma Pose 8.esp Goma Pose 9.esp Goma Pose 10.esp Goma Pose 16.esp Chain it!.esp geechan_SimplePose.esp NaRae Pose - 01.esp CM Partners.esp n_Dywyll_Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - Sc.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp x117race.esp DKImperials.esp Chocolate Elves.esp SuccubusRace.esp Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp CM Partners NPC.esp CM Partners More NPCs.esp CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp DN13CMP_-_Little_Ladies&Lords.esp Naked apron.esp LoversMB2.esp Vestment.esp R18PN - Mizugi +.esp ONE PIECE.esp LoversAOMPilloryBack.esp SPB E Kunoichi.esp SPB B Hunter Suit.esp xeoice.esp LtH_Ruhester_Dom_Fortress.esp PAPlayer1500Eng.esp ERI Rings Plus.esp DskRings.esp SArmor.esp soka.esp 022 MPW E Bishouen Suit.esp crusaderdress.esp Asuta.esp Apprentice Sorceress.esp Set Body Expanded.esp ANBDrapeTop.esp Dollparts' Cherry Brooke Grove.esp A2WitchDress.esp 1SB_LethalMajestyOutfit.esp tera_hf16.esp HGEC Latex Ninja Armor.esp yangyang_HWDress.esp Tal'Ratha.esp CTAddPose_Gaz.esp Swida house.esp Saint Gladiator.esp Lady Victoria Secret EV.esp MenaceoutfitHgec.esp HentaiMOEdress.esp 015 MPW TsunderX Set.esp CTAddPose_Chawan.esp Dragon Song.esp DMHHHarmor.esp CTAddPose_Mfethi.esp NaRae Pose - 02.esp BBYggdrasill.esp Lady Rappelz.esp HeavyKnight.esp LoliMaid.esp yangyang_Stockings.esp yangyang_hhshoes.esp Crusader.esp Cutlass.esp Arshes Nei Armor.esp SPB DMMC Ribbon Armor 1_5.esp BetterOrcs v1.02.esp BetterOrcs v1.02(small teeth).esp Real_Mannequin.esp DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp ElaborateEyes.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Bashed Patch' date=' Oblivion.esp xeoex.esp VToy.esp lol ugly indeed XD hahahaha anyway, the problem is in the head model. the face texture ( which is obviously from x117 mod) and the vanilla head model do not match. just match the head and the texture in CS, that's it. i mean, you have to edit the CLS's esp. Can u explain exactly how to do this? I never used CS before...
cyb3r Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 your running xeoSp++ with Xeosp which is the cause of the issue actually remove xeoex.esp and move xeosp++.esp to the bottom Untick xeosp++ and recreate your bashed patch that should solve the issue ^^ Basicly xeoex is overwriting the stuff from xeosp++ which causes conflicts
ireniqs Posted December 21, 2011 Author Posted December 21, 2011 your running xeoSp++ with Xeosp which is the cause of the issue actually remove xeoex.esp and move xeosp++.esp to the bottom Untick xeosp++ and recreate your bashed patch that should solve the issue ^^ Basicly xeoex is overwriting the stuff from xeosp++ which causes conflicts No positive results... Probably i give up on it... But it solved in game one "blind" eye problem!
Sieker Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 I'm running into the exact same problem and tried to run a minimum of mods in order to try to resolve the problem but still am running into the same issue. This is my load order. Oblivion.esm DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp Streamline 2.1.esp Dude Wheres My Horse.esp Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp BFG's Open All the Gates.esp Grass Overhaul.esp MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp Vtoy.esp I tried removing the CLS bsas to see what they affect and have confirmed they don't do anything to the default characters, but I don't know what else is even interacting with CLS on that list. edit: I just tried running it with just Oblivion.esm DLCShiveringIsles.esp Vtoy.esp Over my backup of the base install and still no go. Same problem is occurring in the new character menus there's some odd female faces with crazy red eyes and massive beards too. Also, in game, the face shapes are fine, which leads me to believe that the problem is with the face textures only.
Grumpf Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Hi guys. Cyb3r, %username%: Thanks a lot! Ireniqs: Since we're on it, you may as well disable (temporarily) a lot of other mods: xeoex.esm -> dunno but Xeo things usually fucks up every other mods NPCs BetterMusicSystem.esm-> will probably prevent CLS unique music to play. Lovers with PK.esm-> do nut use any LPK with CLS, they work together and I can even patch everything but it's totally redudant, CLS has its own system for aniations and everything. BreakUndies.esm -> in itself it's fine but mods that auto equip stuff will CTD with most mods trying to disrobe the player and NPCs. CM Partners.esm-> do not use companions with CLS, they will not work well and will break immersion. ShieldOnBack.esm-> same as breakundies VipCxjControllableSkeleton.esm-> I'm not sure but I think that'll break mostly everything in most mods for a very dubious added value. Could it be causing textures misalignment like your screenshots? Bizarre... Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp-> it's ok but will prevent CLS unique climate to play nicely, like the music system. All Natural - Real Lights.esp WindowLightingSystem.esp -> same ideas for those two, they work but will prevent CLS unique lighting system. PoseBooks.esp-> remove all pose mods, they interfere with other mods that have idles in them for again, a very dubious added value. You can quickly reactivate them just for the one or two screenshots you want then disable them again when done. Set Body Expanded.esp-> dunno what is this? ElaborateEyes.esp-> that looks like a possible issue maker too. So in summary: Disable all LPKs, disable poses mods, All Xeos, All companions and everything messing with light, music, climate, weather etc. Now as you have a lot of armor/clothes mods, I'll also delete all the ones you don't use. They will quickly clutter your oblivion and usually dressmaker are oblivious about game requirement and create meshes with more vertices than cyrodiil. I would suggest backing up your Oblivion first then we can go on from there. This way you won't have to worry about it as it's easy to backup and restore Oblivion. Don't worry it's easy and we'll help you. Sieker: You mod list is fine, everything should work together. I, unfortunately, had to make most NPCs races in CLS playable as withouth that NPCs can't talk unless you use yet another patch I wanted to avoid. As a result, if you invoke the racemenu after activating CLS you'll find yourself with very erm... peculiar races as they were not created to be played at all so most of them lack defaults and opposite sex possibilites... hence the bearded women For the issue, you must have hard files directly in your data folder that overwrites any BSA you can have. If, for example, you use a BSA with a skin texture, a decompressed textures with the same name in your data folder will take precedence over it, no matter what. I suggest first a simple little back up then try to investigate things in your \Oblivion\Data\Meshes\Characters and/or Oblivion\Data\Textures\Characters. If you want you can post the list of files here. I wouldn't mind a little screenshot too if you can. Keep us posted guys! Cheers.
Sieker Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 Ok, your explaination of how the data folder files always take precedence over the BSA versions, I tried tinkering with things with results... just not ones that ended well. So, after a clean install I found the problem to be with either or possibly both of Vanilla Race Deluxe or the MBP AIO pack. My solution was start from a clean install and switch to using the Vanilla Race Overhaul and use a vastly cut down list of mods. Extremely limited, I'll go back to using my mods of choice once i'm done with CLS and am working on the main game. Thanks for the help Grumpf, I was on the wrong track with my thinking before hand (assumed that the bsas could override and that I had effectively deactivated the previous mods. apparently it doesn't work that way) Oh and if you haven't yet, get your flu shots. My god, this year's flu is no joke.
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