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ireniqs

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Hello

 

I have strange problem with CLS mod.

 

All NPCs from this mod have ulgy faces and wrong textures on it. Maybe some other mods are interrupt with CLS and cause this problem, but i dunno what should i do. Please help me. Mod works great but this faces... Where can i find race mod (Maid) used to this mod? Where are those files? Can i change it somehow or repair files?

 

I give u my Load Order and screenshot from game.

 

 

 

Oblivion.esm

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

xeoex.esm

All Natural Base.esm

BetterMusicSystem.esm

Lovers with PK.esm

BreakUndies.esm

LoversCreature.esm

TantrivayliaChimer.esm

CM Partners.esm

Toaster Says Share v3.esm

DIM Elves Of Lineage II Retex.esm

x117race.esm

xeorace.esm

xeoracex117.esm

ShieldOnBack.esm

VipCxjControllableSkeleton.esm

!Oblivion_PL.esp

Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

All Natural.esp

All Natural - SI.esp

Better_Water-1830.esp

Realistic Water.esp

Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp

All Natural - Real Lights.esp

WindowLightingSystem.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV5Beta.esp

VipCxj_HighHeels.esp

ak_testhighheels.esp

AW_Wings.esp

Blackwire.esp

BisPainBringer.esp

BSK Break Undies.esp

Dancing Shadow Rose Break Undies.esp

FemaleImperialDragonCuirass.esp

Full Metal Bikini.esp

Full Metal Bikini Light.esp

GothicGirls.esp

Lady Elegance.esp

Lady Flirt.esp

LittleCarmine.esp

PEDress.esp

PoseBooks.esp

Shadowsilk.esp

VA_FemmeDaedricHelmet.esp

BisSP_RHH_2.esp

VipCxjHHTest.esp

Birdy.esp

Bis_Pom.esp

Diva.esp

Fingernails For HGEC.esp

Forbidden.esp

Neo's LandCH.esp

Neo's Morrigan.esp

R18PN - Amy Armor Set.esp

R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp

R18PN - Lingeries.esp

Rockh00 Nouhime.esp

StockClothingArmorBBBHGEC_Standard_ECupLBotPPN.esp

StockClothingArmorHGECnormalD.esp

StockClothingArmorHGECFighterD.esp

DianoArmor2.esp

AkarinaCottage.esp

Amen'thalas.esp

Amen'thalas - AN Patch.esp

Asylum.esp

Azure_Palace.esp

BlackMarshHall.esp

Casa Bella Vista.esp

DragonClawCastle.esp

BridFetishGirl.esp

GreenGables.esp

Landscape house Final48C.esp

Mage'sSkyHouse.esp

MushroomManor.esp

Reaper's The Necromancer's Tower.esp

Sbturm_Penthouse.esp

Tantrivaylia.esp

__thermae.esp

Tona's_ModsStore.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights_fem.esp

Castle_Knightstone.esp

Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp

Millstone_Farm.esp

VToy.esp

LoversFSE.esp

LoversBCMSound.esp

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp

LoversTachiCat2.esp

LoversSlavePlay.esp

LoversNTRburglar.esp

Lovers with PK.esp

LoversFOV.esp

LoversLight.esp

LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp

LoversHideMenus.esp

Nude Spell.esp

Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp

Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp

VipTestControllableSkeletonall.esp

Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp

SetBody.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

LoversOblivionXP.esp

CTAddPose_osr1.esp

CTAddPose_osr2.esp

CTAddPose_osr3.esp

CTAddPose_Le01.esp

CTAddPose_Le02.esp

CTAddPose_OTPair.esp

CTAddPose_OTpair2.esp

CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp

CTAddPose_bondage_sex-2.esp

CTAddPose_2ch_(Hentai).esp

CTAddPose_Gaff_01.esp

CTAddPose_Gaff_02.esp

CTAddPose_glock3.esp

CTAddPose_gobu.esp

CTAddPose_Dsk(erori)Pose.esp

CTAddPose_Dsk(erori-2)Pose.esp

CTAddPose_DskPose.esp

CTAddPose_SPB_01.esp

CTAddPose SPB 02.esp

Goma Pose 1.esp

Goma Pose 2.esp

Goma Pose 3.esp

Goma Pose 4.esp

Goma Pose 5.esp

Goma Pose 6.esp

Goma Pose 7.esp

Goma Pose 8.esp

Goma Pose 9.esp

Goma Pose 10.esp

Goma Pose 16.esp

Chain it!.esp

geechan_SimplePose.esp

NaRae Pose - 01.esp

Woman's Move.esp

Vanilla_Race_Overhaul.esp

CM Partners.esp

n_Dywyll_Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp

x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - Sc.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

x117race.esp

DKImperials.esp

Chocolate Elves.esp

SuccubusRace.esp

Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

DN13CMP_-_Little_Ladies&Lords.esp

AMB.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

Naked apron.esp

LoversMB2.esp

Vestment.esp

R18PN - Mizugi +.esp

VipCxjControllableSkeletonIdleFixed.esp

ONE PIECE.esp

LoversAOMPilloryBack.esp

SPB E Kunoichi.esp

SPB B Hunter Suit.esp

LoversModule_OBSEv0020.esp

LtH_Ruhester_Dom_Fortress.esp

PAPlayer1500Eng.esp

ERI Rings Plus.esp

DskRings.esp

SArmor.esp

soka.esp

022 MPW E Bishouen Suit.esp

crusaderdress.esp

Asuta.esp

Apprentice Sorceress.esp

Set Body Expanded.esp

ANBDrapeTop.esp

Dollparts' Cherry Brooke Grove.esp

A2WitchDress.esp

1SB_LethalMajestyOutfit.esp

tera_hf16.esp

HGEC Latex Ninja Armor.esp

yangyang_HWDress.esp

Tal'Ratha.esp

CTAddPose_Gaz.esp

Swida house.esp

Saint Gladiator.esp

Lady Victoria Secret EV.esp

MenaceoutfitHgec.esp

HentaiMOEdress.esp

015 MPW TsunderX Set.esp

CTAddPose_Chawan.esp

Dragon Song.esp

DMHHHarmor.esp

CTAddPose_Mfethi.esp

NaRae Pose - 02.esp

BBYggdrasill.esp

Lady Rappelz.esp

HeavyKnight.esp

LoliMaid.esp

yangyang_Stockings.esp

yangyang_hhshoes.esp

Crusader.esp

Cutlass.esp

Arshes Nei Armor.esp

SPB DMMC Ribbon Armor 1_5.esp

BetterOrcs v1.02.esp

BetterOrcs v1.02(small teeth).esp

Real_Mannequin.esp

DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp

ElaborateEyes.esp

 

 

 

 

Oblivion2011-12-1815-35-43-56.jpg

 

 

Ahh and i forgot to say. This ugly face has got Claudia (Augustia it's fine) and as u can see from screenshot all Maids.

 

(Sorry for bad English) ;)

 

EDIT: Tried to move VToy.esp to bottom of the list but this not resolved problem...

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the issue is xeosp move xeoex.esp deadlast in your order and deselect it when creating a bashed patch that should sort the issue

 

also move the bashed patch lower in the order most of the ones that are below are ones that aren't recognized by boss and put after your bashed patch lovers animations should be deadlast ie just above xeoex.esp

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the issue is xeosp move xeoex.esp deadlast in your order and deselect it when creating a bashed patch that should sort the issue

 

also move the bashed patch lower in the order most of the ones that are below are ones that aren't recognized by boss and put after your bashed patch lovers animations should be deadlast ie just above xeoex.esp

 

I did what u are suggesting and no good results (if i did that correct...).

 

Can u explain me more how to rebuild this bash patch? I checked in google, that i need to click right mouse button on bash patch, than click rebuild and what next? What should i check in opened window? There is some kind of list with many imports, tweaks and so on. Sorry but i'm totally noob with this things. I can run mods, change order and maybe modify some nif files but that's all... :P

 

EDIT: OK, I downloaded newest version of Wry Bash. There were checked all needed options in bash patch and i rebuilt it. This bash patch repair me in game many things with the exception of race VToy Maids... :( only this race in this mod is bad, the rest is good...

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could you post your new loadorder? there's probably something small that's been overlooked :) (ps i know it bites i just reinstalled 60gb worth of mods again you learn to love bain installers by the end of that XD)

 

Dunno if i did this load order correct but here u are: (yeah i reinstalled my mods and game 2 times :D 55GB Oblivion folder... i don't want to do this now because i'm playing Skyrim and in near future i unistall Oblivion for good. i want only to finish CLS because it's realy nice mod.) ;)

 

 

 

Oblivion.esm

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

xeoex.esm

All Natural Base.esm

BetterMusicSystem.esm

Lovers with PK.esm

BreakUndies.esm

LoversCreature.esm

TantrivayliaChimer.esm

CM Partners.esm

Toaster Says Share v3.esm

DIM Elves Of Lineage II Retex.esm

x117race.esm

xeorace.esm

xeoracex117.esm

ShieldOnBack.esm

VipCxjControllableSkeleton.esm

!Oblivion_PL.esp

xeosp++.esp

Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

xeoexpeople.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

All Natural.esp

All Natural - SI.esp

Realistic Water.esp

Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp

All Natural - Real Lights.esp

WindowLightingSystem.esp

VipCxj_HighHeels.esp

ak_testhighheels.esp

AW_Wings.esp

Blackwire.esp

BisPainBringer.esp

BSK Break Undies.esp

Dancing Shadow Rose Break Undies.esp

Full Metal Bikini.esp

Full Metal Bikini Light.esp

GothicGirls.esp

Lady Elegance.esp

Lady Flirt.esp

LittleCarmine.esp

PEDress.esp

PoseBooks.esp

Shadowsilk.esp

BisSP_RHH_2.esp

VipCxjHHTest.esp

Birdy.esp

Bis_Pom.esp

Diva.esp

Fingernails For HGEC.esp

Forbidden.esp

Neo's LandCH.esp

Neo's Morrigan.esp

R18PN - Amy Armor Set.esp

R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp

R18PN - Lingeries.esp

Rockh00 Nouhime.esp

StockClothingArmorBBBHGEC_Standard_ECupLBotPPN.esp

StockClothingArmorHGECnormalD.esp

StockClothingArmorHGECFighterD.esp

DianoArmor2.esp

AkarinaCottage.esp

Amen'thalas.esp

Amen'thalas - AN Patch.esp

Asylum.esp

Azure_Palace.esp

BlackMarshHall.esp

Casa Bella Vista.esp

DragonClawCastle.esp

BridFetishGirl.esp

GreenGables.esp

Landscape house Final48C.esp

Mage'sSkyHouse.esp

MushroomManor.esp

Reaper's The Necromancer's Tower.esp

Sbturm_Penthouse.esp

Tantrivaylia.esp

__thermae.esp

Tona's_ModsStore.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

Castle_Knightstone.esp

Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp

Millstone_Farm.esp

LoversFSE.esp

LoversBCMSound.esp

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp

LoversTachiCat2.esp

LoversSlavePlay.esp

LoversNTRburglar.esp

Lovers with PK.esp

LoversFOV.esp

LoversLight.esp

LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp

LoversHideMenus.esp

Nude Spell.esp

Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp

VipTestControllableSkeletonall.esp

Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp

SetBody.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

LoversOblivionXP.esp

CTAddPose_osr1.esp

CTAddPose_osr2.esp

CTAddPose_osr3.esp

CTAddPose_Le01.esp

CTAddPose_Le02.esp

CTAddPose_OTPair.esp

CTAddPose_OTpair2.esp

CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp

CTAddPose_bondage_sex-2.esp

CTAddPose_2ch_(Hentai).esp

CTAddPose_Gaff_01.esp

CTAddPose_Gaff_02.esp

CTAddPose_glock3.esp

CTAddPose_gobu.esp

CTAddPose_Dsk(erori)Pose.esp

CTAddPose_Dsk(erori-2)Pose.esp

CTAddPose_DskPose.esp

CTAddPose_SPB_01.esp

CTAddPose SPB 02.esp

Goma Pose 1.esp

Goma Pose 2.esp

Goma Pose 3.esp

Goma Pose 4.esp

Goma Pose 5.esp

Goma Pose 6.esp

Goma Pose 7.esp

Goma Pose 8.esp

Goma Pose 9.esp

Goma Pose 10.esp

Goma Pose 16.esp

Chain it!.esp

geechan_SimplePose.esp

NaRae Pose - 01.esp

CM Partners.esp

n_Dywyll_Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - Sc.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

x117race.esp

DKImperials.esp

Chocolate Elves.esp

SuccubusRace.esp

Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

DN13CMP_-_Little_Ladies&Lords.esp

Naked apron.esp

LoversMB2.esp

Vestment.esp

R18PN - Mizugi +.esp

ONE PIECE.esp

LoversAOMPilloryBack.esp

SPB E Kunoichi.esp

SPB B Hunter Suit.esp

xeoice.esp

LtH_Ruhester_Dom_Fortress.esp

PAPlayer1500Eng.esp

ERI Rings Plus.esp

DskRings.esp

SArmor.esp

soka.esp

022 MPW E Bishouen Suit.esp

crusaderdress.esp

Asuta.esp

Apprentice Sorceress.esp

Set Body Expanded.esp

ANBDrapeTop.esp

Dollparts' Cherry Brooke Grove.esp

A2WitchDress.esp

1SB_LethalMajestyOutfit.esp

tera_hf16.esp

HGEC Latex Ninja Armor.esp

yangyang_HWDress.esp

Tal'Ratha.esp

CTAddPose_Gaz.esp

Swida house.esp

Saint Gladiator.esp

Lady Victoria Secret EV.esp

MenaceoutfitHgec.esp

HentaiMOEdress.esp

015 MPW TsunderX Set.esp

CTAddPose_Chawan.esp

Dragon Song.esp

DMHHHarmor.esp

CTAddPose_Mfethi.esp

NaRae Pose - 02.esp

BBYggdrasill.esp

Lady Rappelz.esp

HeavyKnight.esp

LoliMaid.esp

yangyang_Stockings.esp

yangyang_hhshoes.esp

Crusader.esp

Cutlass.esp

Arshes Nei Armor.esp

SPB DMMC Ribbon Armor 1_5.esp

BetterOrcs v1.02.esp

BetterOrcs v1.02(small teeth).esp

Real_Mannequin.esp

DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp

ElaborateEyes.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

Bashed Patch' date=' Oblivion.esp

xeoex.esp

VToy.esp

 

 

 

lol ugly indeed XD hahahaha

anyway, the problem is in the head model. the face texture ( which is obviously from x117 mod) and the vanilla head model do not match.

just match the head and the texture in CS, that's it.

i mean, you have to edit the CLS's esp.

 

Can u explain exactly how to do this? I never used CS before... :P

 

 

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your running xeoSp++ with Xeosp which is the cause of the issue actually

 

remove xeoex.esp and move xeosp++.esp to the bottom

Untick xeosp++ and recreate your bashed patch that should solve the issue ^^

 

Basicly xeoex is overwriting the stuff from xeosp++ which causes conflicts :)

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your running xeoSp++ with Xeosp which is the cause of the issue actually

 

remove xeoex.esp and move xeosp++.esp to the bottom

Untick xeosp++ and recreate your bashed patch that should solve the issue ^^

 

Basicly xeoex is overwriting the stuff from xeosp++ which causes conflicts :)

 

No positive results... :( Probably i give up on it... :(

 

But it solved in game one "blind" eye problem! :D

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  • 1 year later...

I'm running into the exact same problem and tried to run a minimum of mods in order to try to resolve the problem but still am running into the same issue. This is my load order.

 

Oblivion.esm

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp

DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp

Streamline 2.1.esp

Dude Wheres My Horse.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

BFG's Open All the Gates.esp

Grass Overhaul.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp

Vtoy.esp

 

I tried removing the CLS bsas to see what they affect and have confirmed they don't do anything to the default characters, but I don't know what else is even interacting with CLS on that list.

 

edit: I just tried running it with just

 

Oblivion.esm

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Vtoy.esp

 

Over my backup of the base install and still no go. Same problem is occurring in the new character menus there's some odd female faces with crazy red eyes and massive beards too. Also, in game, the face shapes are fine, which leads me to believe that the problem is with the face textures only.

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Hi guys.

 

Cyb3r, %username%: Thanks a lot!

Ireniqs: Since we're on it, you may as well disable (temporarily) a lot of other mods:

 

 

 

 

xeoex.esm -> dunno but Xeo things usually fucks up every other mods NPCs

BetterMusicSystem.esm-> will probably prevent CLS unique music to play.

Lovers with PK.esm-> do nut use any LPK with CLS, they work together and I can even patch everything but it's totally redudant, CLS has its own system for aniations and everything.

BreakUndies.esm -> in itself it's fine but mods that auto equip stuff will CTD with most mods trying to disrobe the player and NPCs.

CM Partners.esm-> do not use companions with CLS, they will not work well and will break immersion.

ShieldOnBack.esm-> same as breakundies

VipCxjControllableSkeleton.esm-> I'm not sure but I think that'll break mostly everything in most mods for a very dubious added value. Could it be causing textures misalignment like your screenshots? Bizarre...

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp-> it's ok but will prevent CLS unique climate to play nicely, like the music system.

All Natural - Real Lights.esp

WindowLightingSystem.esp -> same ideas for those two, they work but will prevent CLS unique lighting system.

PoseBooks.esp-> remove all pose mods, they interfere with other mods that have idles in them for again, a very dubious added value. You can quickly reactivate them just for the one or two screenshots you want then disable them again when done.

Set Body Expanded.esp-> dunno what is this?

ElaborateEyes.esp-> that looks like a possible issue maker too.

 

So in summary:

Disable all LPKs, disable poses mods, All Xeos, All companions and everything messing with light, music, climate, weather etc.

 

Now as you have a lot of armor/clothes mods, I'll also delete all the ones you don't use. They will quickly clutter your oblivion and usually dressmaker are oblivious about game requirement and create meshes with more vertices than cyrodiil.

 

 

 

 

I would suggest backing up your Oblivion first then we can go on from there. This way you won't have to worry about it as it's easy to backup and restore Oblivion.

 

Don't worry it's easy and we'll help you.

 

Sieker: You mod list is fine, everything should work together. I, unfortunately, had to make most NPCs races in CLS playable as withouth that NPCs can't talk unless you use yet another patch I wanted to avoid. As a result, if you invoke the racemenu after activating CLS you'll find yourself with very erm... peculiar races :) as they were not created to be played at all so most of them lack defaults and opposite sex possibilites... hence the bearded women :)

 

For the issue, you must have hard files directly in your data folder that overwrites any BSA you can have.

 

If, for example, you use a BSA with a skin texture, a decompressed textures with the same name in your data folder will take precedence over it, no matter what.

 

I suggest first a simple little back up then try to investigate things in your \Oblivion\Data\Meshes\Characters and/or Oblivion\Data\Textures\Characters.

 

If you want you can post the list of files here. I wouldn't mind a little screenshot too if you can.

 

Keep us posted guys! Cheers.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Ok, your explaination of how the data folder files always take precedence over the BSA versions, I tried tinkering with things with results... just not ones that ended well.  So, after a clean install I found the problem to be with either or possibly both of Vanilla Race Deluxe or the MBP AIO pack.  My solution was start from a clean install and switch to using the Vanilla Race Overhaul and use a vastly cut down list of mods.  Extremely limited, I'll go back to using my mods of choice once i'm done with CLS and am working on the main game.  Thanks for the help Grumpf, I was on the wrong track with my thinking before hand (assumed that the bsas could override and that I had effectively deactivated the previous mods.  apparently it doesn't work that way)

 

Oh and if you haven't yet, get your flu shots.  My god, this year's flu is no joke.

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