[mod] Court Whores

[xyzxyz]

On 7/30/2025 at 7:41 PM, OS69 said:

On 7/30/2025 at 3:25 PM, xyzxyz said:

 

I guess it doesn't lol. I'll tune it in the next update.

I managed to recruit her now

But Carnal Court might be even more buggy now^^ 

[OS69]

8 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

I managed to recruit her now

But Carnal Court might be even more buggy now^^ 

oh for fuck's sake lol. I was not able to reproduce whatever happened in your game when I tested it without CBO, so I can't pinpoint exactly what's wrong. But I'll put in more checks to gatekeep the Carnal Court option. In the meantime, just click 'continue', ok?

 

 

It'd be immensely helpful if you could help me test this out. Carnal Relief events should only have one option, but in case there's more, please screenshot it and send it my way. The cooldown of the 'Use Court Whore' interaction has also been lowered to 1 month, so you could trigger the event more frequently to test it out.

Court Whores 1.3.1 beta.rar

Edited August 4, 2025 by OS69

[xyzxyz]

8 hours ago, OS69 said:

oh for fuck's sake lol. I was not able to reproduce whatever happened in your game when I tested it without CBO, so I can't pinpoint exactly what's wrong. But I'll put in more checks to gatekeep the Carnal Court option. In the meantime, just click 'continue', ok?

 

 

It'd be immensely helpful if you could help me test this out. Carnal Relief events should only have one option, but in case there's more, please screenshot it and send it my way. The cooldown of the 'Use Court Whore' interaction has also been lowered to 1 month, so you could trigger the event more frequently to test it out.

Court Whores 1.3.1 beta.rar 1.76 MB · 1 download

Edited August 4, 2025 by xyzxyz

[OS69]

2 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

 

So not only are those two options gatekept for players with CBO, they're also just for AGOT players too (because that mod requires special treatment lol). Honestly I have no idea why your game is being so funky, maybe because it's been at least 400 game years and there's some errors? Have you started this save with CBO installed but disabled it midgame?

 

If you're in an investigative mood, you could send me your save and in the meantime, try testing it with a fresh save. 

[xyzxyz]

43 minutes ago, OS69 said:

So not only are those two options gatekept for players with CBO, they're also just for AGOT players too (because that mod requires special treatment lol). Honestly I have no idea why your game is being so funky, maybe because it's been at least 400 game years and there's some errors? Have you started this save with CBO installed but disabled it midgame?

 

If you're in an investigative mood, you could send me your save and in the meantime, try testing it with a fresh save. 

I never used CBO.

This save is big and several versions old but was continued so it could have some problems 

I'll try a new save later

Emperor_Karl_of_Sudreyjar_1456_06_23.rar

[DarksideRevan]

Great mod, but I have a little issue with it, is it possible to reduce AI from making their own wives as court whores?

Having Emperors and Kings with a court whore wife just leads to them getting no heirs or the wrong one, and it also looks weird for them to keep a whore as a wife IMO as it happens a bit too often (at least in my current save).

 

Having said that, could you make a version with more court whores court positions (or point me in the right direct on where to change it)? I managed to edit it somewhat and the extra positions appear in the UI, but it won't let me select more after 5.

[araburlesque]

This is such a much-needed mod 😁

 

OS69 would you consider making it so that landed prisoners forced to become court whores are forced to stay at their liege's court (like wards do) until they're released from the position so it forces them into a regency? It would also be cool to see the close kin/lovers/spouse of a court whore become rivals with the liege or landed spouse declare war to free their spouse from the court position (assuming they like them/hate their liege lmao).

I think it could also be an interesting way to start a house feud if someone makes your house member a court whore - I wonder if that's more challenging to implement but there would be a lot of fun material (casus belli, plots, factions for freeing your house member, +/- feud scoring for keeping feuding house as court whores, etc.). 

Edited August 4, 2025 by araburlesque

[kenis19]

On 7/15/2025 at 4:35 AM, OS69 said:

Go to Court Whores/common/court_position/types/court_whore_court_positions.txt

Line 5: 

max_available_positions = 5 <- change this to whatever number you want

 

CSE was just updated on 8 May this year and I've been using CSE (despite being sparingly updated) and CSR for years without issue. In any case, this mod depends on NPCs having the slave trait or the prostitute trait so I guess the only real 'hard requirement' is Carnalitas.

 

 

I tried this, it adds the slots, but I can't add another whore. Same with Stud. Any ideas??

[DarksideRevan]

2 hours ago, kenis19 said:

 

 

I tried this, it adds the slots, but I can't add another whore. Same with Stud. Any ideas??

 

That was exactly my issue as well, it worked for me in order to add more studs (added 2 more and no issues) but adding more whores only adds to the UI, it becomes grayed out after choosing 5 even if you have more slots.

[OS69]

2 hours ago, DarksideRevan said:

Great mod, but I have a little issue with it, is it possible to reduce AI from making their own wives as court whores?

Yeah, that's a bit silly. I thought a -100 candidate score would keep most AI rulers from cucking themselves lol. I'll increase it to -200.

 

2 hours ago, DarksideRevan said:

Having said that, could you make a version with more court whores court positions (or point me in the right direct on where to change it)? I managed to edit it somewhat and the extra positions appear in the UI, but it won't let me select more after 5.

1 hour ago, kenis19 said:

I tried this, it adds the slots, but I can't add another whore. Same with Stud. Any ideas??

So I've done some experimenting with court positions. It seems max_available_positions has a hard-coded cap of 5. You could change that number to above 5 but the game will not let you hire any more from the court positions tab. However, you can use the 'Grant Court Position' character interaction to bypass that.

 

2 hours ago, araburlesque said:

This is such a much-needed mod 😁

 

OS69 would you consider making it so that landed prisoners forced to become court whores are forced to stay at their liege's court (like wards do) until they're released from the position so it forces them into a regency? It would also be cool to see the close kin/lovers/spouse of a court whore become rivals with the liege or landed spouse declare war to free their spouse from the court position (assuming they like them/hate their liege lmao).

I think it could also be an interesting way to start a house feud if someone makes your house member a court whore - I wonder if that's more challenging to implement but there would be a lot of fun material (casus belli, plots, factions for freeing your house member, +/- feud scoring for keeping feuding house as court whores, etc.). 

Your whole comment has just inspired me to continue working on this mod. Granted, I haven't played much with the DLC-that-should-not-be-named and the feud system, but I'll look into it.

[araburlesque]

I'm glad! I'm very excited about this mod's potential - as someone mentioned earlier in the thread I think it's maybe the only one that kind of simulate player slavery to some extent, on top of adding much needed flavor to the slavery system. If you're ever lacking in ideas (esp about player-side interactions in the role) I have a bunch rattling around and would be happy to write for events if you ever need contributions there.

[DarksideRevan]

18 hours ago, OS69 said:

Yeah, that's a bit silly. I thought a -100 candidate score would keep most AI rulers from cucking themselves lol. I'll increase it to -200.

 

So I've done some experimenting with court positions. It seems max_available_positions has a hard-coded cap of 5. You could change that number to above 5 but the game will not let you hire any more from the court positions tab. However, you can use the 'Grant Court Position' character interaction to bypass that.

 

Thank you brother, love your mod. As others have said, the slave system was a bit meh until I used your mod, really great stuff.

 

I just saw another situation and maybe this is what's bypassing the -100 AI score, since some are also marrying women already in their court as court whores. Maybe adding a big minus modifier to marrying a court whore if you are landed could do it.

 

Shame there is a hardcap of 5 positions, how do I use the grant court position to bypass it? Sorry if this is a noob question.

 

EDIT: Oh wow, I see what you mean now, you can just select a character individually and grant them the position as opposed to selecting them from the court position tab. Perfect, good thing about this is then you can go back to the tab and they are there and you can change them around as normal, just don't fire them.

 

 

 

Edited August 5, 2025 by DarksideRevan
Added stuff.

[DarksideRevan]

Edited August 5, 2025 by DarksideRevan

[araburlesque]

Quick AGOT compatch for prison interactions if anyone needs it btw (\common\character_interactions):

zzz_carnx_00_prison_interactions.txt

[OS69]

29 minutes ago, araburlesque said:

Quick AGOT compatch for prison interactions if anyone needs it btw (\common\character_interactions):

Thank you so much. I'm really not equipped to support AGOT lol (mostly because I don't actually play with that mod). I downloaded that mod only to debug problems with it that was reported lmao

[OS69]

21 hours ago, araburlesque said:

I'm glad! I'm very excited about this mod's potential - as someone mentioned earlier in the thread I think it's maybe the only one that kind of simulate player slavery to some extent, on top of adding much needed flavor to the slavery system. If you're ever lacking in ideas (esp about player-side interactions in the role) I have a bunch rattling around and would be happy to write for events if you ever need contributions there.

Any ideas would definitely be appreciated. Currently I only have house feud integration (and debugging lol) on my to-do list after tuning 'Cuckholding Kings'. Tbh, this (ver 1.3.0) is what I had originally envisioned my mod to be when I first started making it so I'm sort of out of ideas.

[Darktod]

This mod is very good when you need more courtiers. it is also compatible with agot, but not very compatible with POD.

[araburlesque]

1.3.1 compatch for AGOT

CW1.3.1_agot.zip

[xyzxyz]

Are court whores not having children with their regular spouses anymore? 10 years of marriage and no children yet.

[Darktod]

1 hour ago, xyzxyz said:

Are court whores not having children with their regular spouses anymore? 10 years of marriage and no children yet.

they may be protecting themselves from pregnancy. I've had it too.

[xyzxyz]

7 minutes ago, Darktod said:

they may be protecting themselves from pregnancy. I've had it too.

I don't see any symbol that shows that on the character UI.

[base1en]

2 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

I don't see any symbol that shows that on the character UI.

 

Keep an eye on their health – if they're ill every few months the AI is probably using the Wise Woman's Brew mechanic to attempt an abortion.

Edited August 8, 2025 by base1en

[xyzxyz]

55 minutes ago, base1en said:

 

Keep an eye on their health – if they're ill every few months the AI is probably using the Wise Woman's Brew mechanic to attempt an abortion.

I've disabled that with mods^^ Was tired of loosing family members because they got pregnant in an affair.

[base1en]

The No AI Abortions mod and Carnalitas pregnancy tweaks don't work properly in my experience.

[Ven_Detta]

Can someone make a high-quality translation into Russian?