HENTAIRIM

[Candy_of_Cotton]

13 hours ago, Firch50 said:

 

 

Holy goodness - I saw your post in the SLSO post after trying to narrow down the problem and I almost lost hope before coming and seeing that you had actually fixed it. Can you please give me a pointer to how you did it?? I would be so very grateful! 

[crajjjj]

On 5/18/2025 at 6:20 PM, Serenity_XXI said:

@crajjjj so far I've had one freeze happen but it was after playing a whole bunch of scenes. It's definitely significantly less frequent though. I'll update you if I have anything more to add after some further testing.

Hi - could you pls try this experimental freeze fix  It goes to SKSE/plugins

Updated here: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/133568?tab=files

 

Edited May 24, 2025 by crajjjj

[Firch50]

12 hours ago, Bigglsby said:

 

If you're using Free Cam during scenes, sometimes anim objects won't properly show.  If you expect a tongue (or other anim object), but it isn't showing, toggle off the free cam (num 3 by default).  Usually that will fix the anim object, and you can turn free cam back on.  

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

9 hours ago, Candy_of_Cotton said:

 

Holy goodness - I saw your post in the SLSO post after trying to narrow down the problem and I almost lost hope before coming and seeing that you had actually fixed it. Can you please give me a pointer to how you did it?? I would be so very grateful! 

What I did as far as I remember is updating Sexlab (duh). The thing is I was using the version Beta 9, instead of the latest Sexlab version available. Please note that I run Skyrim SE, not AE, so it might be different for you. Also make sure to have all the prerequisites for sexlab related mods updated.

Another point, the load order : 


Last thing, that is obvious : start a new game, that worked for me after updating Sexlab. 

If you have any questions, i will try my best to help you.

[Serenity_XXI]

15 hours ago, Firch50 said:

Thank you for your suggestion, really appreciate it.

How does it work with baka keywords ?  Does it support it ? If I switch over OSL Aroused, would have I to manually re assign keyword for every armor mod that I have ?

 

Thanks again in advance.

According to the author, all SL Aroused and Baka keywords are officially supported in OSL Aroused. I don't recall having to manually re-assign anything when I made the switch myself, but I don't want to guarantee anything

 

Edited May 24, 2025 by Serenity_XXI

[Serenity_XXI]

4 hours ago, crajjjj said:

Hi - could you pls try this experimental freeze fix  It goes to SKSE/plugins

mfgfix.zip 7.03 MB · 3 downloads

Hey @crajjjj thank you for posting!

 

I tested it with a quest which would consistently produce a freeze for me. It has 4 scenes with 4 different NPC actors. After installing your experimental fix, I managed to almost get through the whole thing (would usually freeze almost right away on 1st or 2nd scene... this time it froze on the last one). So it may have improved things, even if not completely eliminated the problem. I'll test some more and update as needed.

 

I'm using all the files from your patch hub btw (except SLDisparityApropos2HentairimPatch.zip).

 

Do let me know if you need any logs or debug information from my end, I'll be happy to provide.

 

UPDATE - Tried the scenes again and this time managed to complete them all, no freezes. Before that it was consistently freezing before I could get through them all. However there was a 5th scene after that and then it froze again lol... I think the fix did something for sure, but not totally eliminating the problem.

Edited May 24, 2025 by Serenity_XXI

[crajjjj]

On 5/24/2025 at 4:12 PM, Serenity_XXI said:

Hey @crajjjj thank you for posting!

 

I tested it with a quest which would consistently produce a freeze for me. It has 4 scenes with 4 different NPC actors. After installing your experimental fix, I managed to almost get through the whole thing (would usually freeze almost right away on 1st or 2nd scene... this time it froze on the last one). So it may have improved things, even if not completely eliminated the problem. I'll test some more and update as needed.

 

I'm using all the files from your patch hub btw (except SLDisparityApropos2HentairimPatch.zip).

 

Do let me know if you need any logs or debug information from my end, I'll be happy to provide.

 

UPDATE - Tried the scenes again and this time managed to complete them all, no freezes. Before that it was consistently freezing before I could get through them all. However there was a 5th scene after that and then it froze again lol... I think the fix did something for sure, but not totally eliminating the problem.

One more attempt on the papyrus side. Please try - I don't think I can reproduce anymore

 

Edited May 26, 2025 by crajjjj
https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/41804-crajjjj-patches-hub/

[Candy_of_Cotton]

So just to be fun, I was testing this out -without- SLSO because, to be forward and frank, I hate that mod. So much. I'm probably hilariously biased against it mostly due to the person who made it being known to be incredibly unhelpful (commenting 'rip' on people expressing they couldn't get the enjoyment to go up and admitting in the same page that they intentionally hide the information on what their mods do somewhere in the mod itself because 'people don't read the op anyway') so I simply chose not to use it and play. 

Every single thing worked... except the hentai male voices. Which, upon looking more, is dependent ON the sl animation tags. Fair. I, personally, don't know how to make something even attempt to go around SLSO because I can't / haven't quite learned how to mod outside of Vortex. I barely figured out textures just the other week; learning at an okay rate but not super fast lol. 

 

That said - I loved using it while I had it but the SLSO bugs (not counting sperm to inject into the fertility mode like I had before, etcet) made it ungodly frustrating. I was mainly wanting this for the voices anyway lol. 

 

I'm sure this was ungodly unhelpful but I wanted to toss the results of my inexperienced playing to the winds

[Serenity_XXI]

3 hours ago, crajjjj said:

One more attempt on the papyrus side. Please try - I don't think I can reproduce anymore

Hentairim Enjoyment Expressions Traits 103 TNG patch.zip 121.78 kB · 1 download

I tried it, but unfortunately after playing around for a while I still managed to encounter a freeze here and there. Idk, maybe it's something about my setup that makes it more prone to this problem. It does seem to be fewer and farther in between freezes, so I'll take what I can get at this point. Appreciate your efforts @crajjjj. I'll keep following your patch hub for any potential future updates. Thanks again!

 

 

Edited May 24, 2025 by Serenity_XXI

[theboss152]

12 hours ago, Serenity_XXI said:

I tried it, but unfortunately after playing around for a while I still managed to encounter a freeze here and there. Idk, maybe it's something about my setup that makes it more prone to this problem. It does seem to be fewer and farther in between freezes, so I'll take what I can get at this point. Appreciate your efforts @crajjjj. I'll keep following your patch hub for any potential future updates. Thanks again!

 

 

What do you guys mean when you say "freeze" like the game freeezes or the expression ?

 

 

with the fix above my character closes his mouth after the start of any stage during a blowjob animation

[Lillithcometh]

dug through the comments and couldnt tell is P+ support was possible. saw U+ had some functionality, but curious if P+ does or not. SLSB got updated to run teh slate tags better but wanted to double check here.

[theboss152]

50 minutes ago, Lillithcometh said:

dug through the comments and couldnt tell is P+ support was possible. saw U+ had some functionality, but curious if P+ does or not. SLSB got updated to run teh slate tags better but wanted to double check here.

if it can run slate now, then its compatible, give it a try

[Lillithcometh]

12 minutes ago, theboss152 said:

if it can run slate now, then its compatible, give it a try

well its not compatible with slate, but used the tags from slate to incorporate directly into the animaitons (i guess like slate would but cutting out the middle man) guess i can see if it works.

[NismoMan]

15 hours ago, Lillithcometh said:

well its not compatible with slate, but used the tags from slate to incorporate directly into the animaitons (i guess like slate would but cutting out the middle man) guess i can see if it works.

Shoot, How long did that take you?! 🧐

And did it work?

[SamsonX]

Hey there, just wanted to ask about disabling default sexlab sounds for the PC, in the IVDT guide it says: "ii) Hentairim Sound Effects - When you install the sound effects Hentairim mod, navigate to MCM and change the slider for the PC’s pack to 1, where this will disable PC’s sexlab moan"

 

Which MCM is this referring to? Sexlab MCM or somewhere else?

 

[Firch50]

10 minutes ago, SamsonX said:

Hey there, just wanted to ask about disabling default sexlab sounds for the PC, in the IVDT guide it says: "ii) Hentairim Sound Effects - When you install the sound effects Hentairim mod, navigate to MCM and change the slider for the PC’s pack to 1, where this will disable PC’s sexlab moan"

 

Which MCM is this referring to? Sexlab MCM or somewhere else?

 

In Sexlab MCM, lower Sounds Fx to 1% (can't go lower).
 

In SLSO I think, you can switch voices for PC and NPC. Go for the value different of 0 for PC (i don't remember if it's 1 or -1, you'll see), it will use the voice pack you installed instead of Sexlab default voice for you MC.

 

EDIT : 1 is used for PC, and you can set -1 to NPC for them to use Synthesis voice.

Edited May 26, 2025 by Firch50

[SamsonX]

4 minutes ago, Firch50 said:

In Sexlab MCM, lower Sounds Fx to 1% (can't go lower).
 

In SLSO I think, you can switch voices for PC and NPC. Go for the value different of 0 for PC (i don't remember if it's 1 or -1, you'll see), it will use the voice pack you installed instead of Sexlab default voice for you MC.

Cheers thank you!

[no_way]

@crajjjj What order/overwrite should be done with your patches?  I've been using SLU+ and actually found it works just fine, until I install Hentairim IVDT TNG patch, then the voices stop entirely.

 

The rest of them are fine.

[crajjjj]

32 minutes ago, no_way said:

@crajjjj What order/overwrite should be done with your patches?  I've been using SLU+ and actually found it works just fine, until I install Hentairim IVDT TNG patch, then the voices stop entirely.

 

The rest of them are fine.

The only file in conflict -> sslActorAlias (modified extensively by SLU+). If you want to keep SLU+ don't use Hentairim traits mod. IVDT should work with SLU+ cause it works in parallel with sexlab voices/expressions system
order in general:
Sexlab
SLSO
SLU+
Hentairim mods
Hentairim patches (make sure you use the latest ones and without traits)

[no_way]

5 hours ago, crajjjj said:

The only file in conflict -> sslActorAlias (modified extensively by SLU+). If you want to keep SLU+ don't use Hentairim traits mod. IVDT should work with SLU+ cause it works in parallel with sexlab voices/expressions system
order in general:
Sexlab
SLSO
SLU+
Hentairim mods
Hentairim patches (make sure you use the latest ones and without traits)

Hmm weird, cause traits seems to be working fine with SLU+.  Ive turned off all expressions in SL and the character still getting expressions and tongues etc so not sure whats going on.

 

Reactivating them sequentially in the order you suggest I see:

SLSO_SpellVoiceScript from IVDT TNG patch overwrites SLSO

sslActorAlias from Hentairim Enjoyment Expressions Traits overwrites SLU+/SL166b as you said

 

Ill try with SLSO sandwiched between SL166b and SLU+ and the patches at the end as you say and see what happens.  But if traits was messing up SLU+ I shouldn't be getting any expressions no?

Edited May 26, 2025 by no_way

[crajjjj]

3 hours ago, no_way said:

Hmm weird, cause traits seems to be working fine with SLU+.  Ive turned off all expressions in SL and the character still getting expressions and tongues etc so not sure whats going on.

 

Reactivating them sequentially in the order you suggest I see:

SLSO_SpellVoiceScript from IVDT TNG patch overwrites SLSO

sslActorAlias from Hentairim Enjoyment Expressions Traits overwrites SLU+/SL166b as you said

 

Ill try with SLSO sandwiched between SL166b and SLU+ and the patches at the end as you say and see what happens.  But if traits was messing up SLU+ I shouldn't be getting any expressions no?

You will get expressions from traits as they are meant to replace sl expression system and slu is improving that. but you also lose all slu+ improvements like positioning , filters, markers etc. Maybe it'll be okayish. See logs. 

[no_way]

2 minutes ago, crajjjj said:

You will get expressions from traits as they are meant to replace sl expression system and slu is improving that. but you also lose all slu+ improvements like positioning , filters, markers etc. Maybe it'll be okayish. See logs. 

Hmm interesting.  I'll test a bit more with the order you gave me and everything installed.  So far the advanced furniture stuff is fine, and the rest is as janky as it was before Hentairim haha.  I've always had an issue with SLU+ only allowing me to switch animations twice.

[no_way]

50 minutes ago, crajjjj said:

You will get expressions from traits as they are meant to replace sl expression system and slu is improving that. but you also lose all slu+ improvements like positioning , filters, markers etc. Maybe it'll be okayish. See logs. 

No luck with this load order (of note I copied sslActorLibrary from SLU+ to SLCOE and that fixed any issues I had from that)

 

SL 166b

SLSO

SLU

Hentairim IVDT

Hentairim tags

Hentairim sound effects

Hentairim cum shot

IVDT male voice 

Fortune IVDT

Hentairim IVDT TNG Patch

Hentairim Enjoyment Traits TNG Patch

 

SLCOE

 

 

Any time I have Hentairim IVDT TNG patch installed, I dont get voices anymore.  Whats the patch even doing?  Do I need to rerun SLATE for it?

Edited May 27, 2025 by no_way

[Bigglsby]

11 hours ago, no_way said:

No luck with this load order (of note I copied sslActorLibrary from SLU+ to SLCOE and that fixed any issues I had from that)

 

SL 166b

SLSO

SLU

Hentairim IVDT

Hentairim tags

Hentairim sound effects

Hentairim cum shot

IVDT male voice 

Fortune IVDT

Hentairim IVDT TNG Patch

Hentairim Enjoyment Traits TNG Patch

 

SLCOE

 

 

Any time I have Hentairim IVDT TNG patch installed, I dont get voices anymore.  Whats the patch even doing?  Do I need to rerun SLATE for it?

 

You're not the only one who has had that problem with the IVDT TNG patch.  I went a couple rounds with logs and Crajjjj, but never found any cause.  My setup is with SoS, no SLU+.  No problems with voice once the IVDT TNG patch was removed.  It presumably works for some/most people, but perhaps requires TNG and hangs up without it...?  or it doesn't like certain configs or settings turned off.  Not sure, and didn't find anything that worked when I played with it.  So I keep to just the traits patch, not the IVDT patch.

[crajjjj]

11 hours ago, no_way said:

No luck with this load order (of note I copied sslActorLibrary from SLU+ to SLCOE and that fixed any issues I had from that)

 

SL 166b

SLSO

SLU

Hentairim IVDT

Hentairim tags

Hentairim sound effects

Hentairim cum shot

IVDT male voice 

Fortune IVDT

Hentairim IVDT TNG Patch

Hentairim Enjoyment Traits TNG Patch

 

SLCOE

 

 

Any time I have Hentairim IVDT TNG patch installed, I dont get voices anymore.  Whats the patch even doing?  Do I need to rerun SLATE for it?

No the patch just adds tng support. There is one method that crashes if SOS not installed. 

Without log file hard to say what fails. You can remove tng patch of course if that somehow helps. Im sorry I don't have capacity to fix SLU compatibility. 

Slate rerun not needed. 

[crajjjj]

9 minutes ago, Bigglsby said:

 

You're not the only one who has had that problem with the IVDT TNG patch.  I went a couple rounds with logs and Crajjjj, but never found any cause.  My setup is with SoS, no SLU+.  No problems with voice once the IVDT TNG patch was removed.  It presumably works for some/most people, but perhaps requires TNG and hangs up without it...?  or it doesn't like certain configs or settings turned off.  Not sure, and didn't find anything that worked when I played with it.  So I keep to just the traits patch, not the IVDT patch.

Can you please share once again the log? Ive added lactate armor checks in the latest patch version (that was in your log before) . Wonder what else can crash.