dentonjc Posted August 5, 2025 Author Posted August 5, 2025 2 minutes ago, Allnarta said: Dude, you literally use two of my mods as requirement to yours, which I didn't hide/remove from NexusMods as an act of kindness (also I'a a female so do not even have one lol). I know so what? Did you make them for something other than modding? Who needs a naked man in the game just for a naked man only? Why so serious by the way, it's for I didn't credit you on Nexus? I thought a demigod who discontinues his creations with such pathos about "agony" and other shit wouldn't need a credit from poor mortals like me. What do you want anyway? Source code? I will publish it on Nexus after some polishing, with my precious comments. You'll find there a couple of interesting things, that's for sure. Blender files you won't get anyway cos I'm not a professional in 3D and don't want to shake out laundry in public. Besides, everybody who knows how to animate is able to do better than me, it's not the question of software. Cool down, dude. Be professional. Don't use words like "hypocrisy" unless you know the context. I've got a huge mod for FO4 in my portfolio with just gay thematic and that is not something that could scare me out. 1
Allnarta Posted August 5, 2025 Posted August 5, 2025 1 minute ago, dentonjc said: Who needs a naked man in the game just for a naked man only? Me. This argument should be enough for you.
dentonjc Posted August 5, 2025 Author Posted August 5, 2025 5 minutes ago, Allnarta said: Me. This argument should be enough for you. I should use the same "agrument", so please go do something useful than argue with me.
Allnarta Posted August 5, 2025 Posted August 5, 2025 I decided to do most "useful" thing I can in this situation: inspire you, guys, to make your own skeleton and body mods. 1
dentonjc Posted August 5, 2025 Author Posted August 5, 2025 1 minute ago, Allnarta said: I decided to do most "useful" thing I can in this situation: inspire you, guys, to make your own skeleton and body mods. You know, I thought about it and realized that it is people like you who are killing the scene, paradoxically. 4
Allnarta Posted August 5, 2025 Posted August 5, 2025 Nope, I disagree strongly. I specifically left most essential mods from me to be not only open to download, but also open source to use - but when I pointed out that you literally spread not true about "male on male will not play those animations" - it will, and you perfectly know it - you throwed a tantrum and insulted me numerous amount of times. While I never, a single time, insulted you personally - I just expressed my harsh opinion on a behaviour when author searches for excuse to not add a thing that is easy to add). I may return mods to public state at some point, but at this particular moment I feel that treating those who really tried to do something big for this community is not a good thing to do. 1
AceofWind Posted August 5, 2025 Posted August 5, 2025 Calm down you two. Both of you have done some amazing work with this game that you shouldn't let get overshadowed over some drama, especially with a game that's struggling to get off the ground. And Allnarta, with your mods serving a framework for the other mods using it, you especially should keep your cool as you know that to take your mods down would mean causing problems for all the others who rely on your work as well. 1
Allnarta Posted August 5, 2025 Posted August 5, 2025 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AceofWind said: And Allnarta, with your mods serving a framework for the other mods using it, you especially should keep your cool as you know that to take your mods down would mean causing problems for all the others who rely on your work as well. So you say that I'm obligated to take all and any insults towards me obediently and allow others to treat me as shit? Sorry, no. If there were at least dozen mods dependant on the ones I created, it would be a different story. But basically, except already abandoned Slim Fit Body, noone ever used it, except person who was extremely rude to me, so this argument is not relevant. Edited August 5, 2025 by Allnarta 1
AceofWind Posted August 5, 2025 Posted August 5, 2025 Just now, Allnarta said: So you say that I'm obligated to take all and any insults towards me obediently and allow others to treat me as shit? Sorry, no. No, I'm saying to try to be a bit more considerate towards the others who rely on your work, especially if they're not the ones engaging in this argument with you. 1
Allnarta Posted August 5, 2025 Posted August 5, 2025 1 minute ago, AceofWind said: No, I'm saying to try to be a bit more considerate towards the others who rely on your work, especially if they're not the ones engaging in this argument with you. Obviously. Luckily, there are none.
AceofWind Posted August 5, 2025 Posted August 5, 2025 15 minutes ago, Allnarta said: Obviously. Luckily, there are none. As far as I'm aware of, SnuSnuField still relies on your skeletons, but I'm going to assume that's the other author you're referring to since I've seen people complain about the lack of male on male animations for that too
Allnarta Posted August 5, 2025 Posted August 5, 2025 If SnuSnu also allows female animations but restricts male ones, well, it's still a good reason too.
AceofWind Posted August 5, 2025 Posted August 5, 2025 Just now, Allnarta said: If SnuSnu also allows female animations but restricts male ones, well, it's still a good reason too. Now that I think about it, it doesn't. It's a purely heterosexual mod
Allnarta Posted August 5, 2025 Posted August 5, 2025 1 minute ago, AceofWind said: Now that I think about it, it doesn't. It's a purely heterosexual mod With that I have no issues, actually, Looking at SnuSnu mod page comments though, author clearly stated that mod is in non-functional state as for now because of game update. So, basically, until (if) NAF and other mods update, he will not be bothered by the fact that skeleton dependency is temporarily hidden.
dentonjc Posted August 5, 2025 Author Posted August 5, 2025 58 minutes ago, Allnarta said: With that I have no issues, actually, Looking at SnuSnu mod page comments though, author clearly stated that mod is in non-functional state as for now because of game update. So, basically, until (if) NAF and other mods update, he will not be bothered by the fact that skeleton dependency is temporarily hidden. To the initial reason of this sorry squabble, if you don't mind. Do you know some peculiar nuances of NAF? Have you used it for the real deed not just for the play of a theoretist? Along with its inability to revert facial bones after use (surprise) it drastically can't render the bones which weren't in so-called export skeleton at the time of export. I used female model shipped with NAF itself. At the time of dev it was logically determined, don't you agree? How ferociously I was mistaken! That model hasn't any penis at all, strange, isn't it? And its export skeleton has no penis as well. If you unpack and open glb made via that skeleton with some editor, you won't find any penis bone descriptor inside. And that is why NAF can't play such glb correctly on a male actor with penis. There's no information on how to render penis bones in this file, you genius. NAF garbles them during playback! You see a monster with tentacles instead of male genitals. Now what? What do you propose smart ass, to use male export skel for females? Good. To re-render 460 and even more blender files you've neve done yourself in your entire sorry life? Go kiss yourself. Learn to respect others work then open YOUR mouth.
Allnarta Posted August 5, 2025 Posted August 5, 2025 15 minutes ago, dentonjc said: What do you propose smart ass, I propose you to seek therapy in a first place. You are the most arrogant, pityful and rude person I met in entire decade. I'm not sure if external bones issue is true, but if yes, well then SF NAF is a lot worse than I remember. Good riddance then. 1
dentonjc Posted August 5, 2025 Author Posted August 5, 2025 4 minutes ago, Allnarta said: I propose you to seek therapy in a first place. You are the most arrogant, pityful and rude person I met in entire decade. I'm not sure if external bones issue is true, but if yes, well then SF NAF is a lot worse than I remember. Good riddance then. I was rude and feel sorry for that. But you also made incorrect assumptions based on pesonal lack of knowledge and persisted on that. I beg your padon and don't ask for mutuality. I suggest we make peace at last. 9
Allnarta Posted August 5, 2025 Posted August 5, 2025 Okay then. Mods are there again (apologising is enough for me), have a nice day. 7
dentonjc Posted August 6, 2025 Author Posted August 6, 2025 Some screenshots of upcoming update. Charming handjobs and experiments with partially disabled gender control (for those who into lesbians). Happy now? Though needs further testing. 4
Ueli_123 Posted August 6, 2025 Posted August 6, 2025 (edited) Hi Guys! Thx for your epic mods! How do I install NAF on an up to date Steam Starfield? No Tipps and Tricks on this page do work... The NAF Creator on Nexus said, there will be no updates. The sources are free to use for everyone. Unfourtunenally, I am not capable to programm in modern ways... Starfield is by far underrated, I loved to play Elite Dangerous, but Starfield is better in a lot of ways. Please help me enjoying it. Thx a lot Edited August 6, 2025 by Ueli_123
AceofWind Posted August 7, 2025 Posted August 7, 2025 3 hours ago, Ueli_123 said: Hi Guys! Thx for your epic mods! How do I install NAF on an up to date Steam Starfield? No Tipps and Tricks on this page do work... The NAF Creator on Nexus said, there will be no updates. The sources are free to use for everyone. Unfourtunenally, I am not capable to programm in modern ways... Starfield is by far underrated, I loved to play Elite Dangerous, but Starfield is better in a lot of ways. Please help me enjoying it. Thx a lot Unfortunately NAF is currently not compatible with the latest version, you will have to downgrade to last year's update in order to use any NAF reliant mod right now. And Snapdragon didn't say there would be no further updates, but rather it would take some time for him to update it, which is largely due to CommonLibSF being outdated as well.
Ueli_123 Posted August 7, 2025 Posted August 7, 2025 (edited) On 8/7/2025 at 2:15 AM, AceofWind said: Unfortunately NAF is currently not compatible with the latest version, you will have to downgrade to last year's update in order to use any NAF reliant mod right now. And Snapdragon didn't say there would be no further updates, but rather it would take some time for him to update it, which is largely due to CommonLibSF being outdated as well. I got it running. Never have to different Version of SFSE in Vortex installed, even if only one of them is active... Edited August 10, 2025 by Ueli_123
Lastguy69 Posted August 16, 2025 Posted August 16, 2025 I’ve got an issue where I shoot the people and nothing really happens - they just find a piece of furniture and stand next to/on top of naked. No sex or anything. Any advice?
AceofWind Posted August 18, 2025 Posted August 18, 2025 On 8/16/2025 at 3:33 PM, Lastguy69 said: I’ve got an issue where I shoot the people and nothing really happens - they just find a piece of furniture and stand next to/on top of naked. No sex or anything. Any advice? You might be on an incompatible game version. This mod relies on NAF which hasn't been updated for the 1.15 version of the game yet, though it may get updated soon judging by Snapdragon's efforts last week. So for the time being, you'll need to downgrade your game back to the version from last year.
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