paradisesins Posted April 4, 2025 Posted April 4, 2025 I'm so fed up with the lack of something so important (at least to me) in a simulation game, like nationality and age expressed in numbers. I want to know where a person is from. I want to be able to have a mixed-race child between an Israeli and a Palestinian, between a Russian and a Ukrainian. I want to know that the person I'm talking to is the same age as me, not just in the same age range. I want to see with my own eyes that the 69-year-old rich old man is sleeping with a 20-year-old young woman. Why not implement it? Is it too controversial? Stop with the politics and make a simulation game the way it should be. Damn it. 3
竹柏影 Posted April 5, 2025 Posted April 5, 2025 Good idea, but why use numbers to express nationality? And for now, it seems like all characters are assumed to be from the same country no matter which game it is. 3
paradisesins Posted April 5, 2025 Author Posted April 5, 2025 5 hours ago, 竹柏影 said: Good idea, but why use numbers to express nationality? And for now, it seems like all characters are assumed to be from the same country no matter which game it is. Numbers for the age, ie 30 years old, 34 years old... Nationalities because I want to have a North Korean guy in that LA city.
竹柏影 Posted April 6, 2025 Posted April 6, 2025 14 hours ago, paradisesins said: Numbers for the age, ie 30 years old, 34 years old... Nationalities because I want to have a North Korean guy in that LA city. No, I mean why don't just use words to express nationality
davidgraham2121 Posted April 6, 2025 Posted April 6, 2025 As far as nationalities go, they're fake concepts. 2
paradisesins Posted April 6, 2025 Author Posted April 6, 2025 3 hours ago, 竹柏影 said: No, I mean why don't just use words to express nationality Age expressed in numbers --> 30, 60... Nationalities expressed in words -> French, Canadian...
Deusnoir Posted April 8, 2025 Posted April 8, 2025 I have a solution for this request. Open Notepad++, create a file called char_details. Write the name of each character along with the age and nationality you wish them to have. Save the document. Now you can refer to this txt file whenever you forget any of your zois details. TLDR: These details can be whatever you want them to be.
paradisesins Posted April 8, 2025 Author Posted April 8, 2025 5 hours ago, Deusnoir said: I have a solution for this request. Open Notepad++, create a file called char_details. Write the name of each character along with the age and nationality you wish them to have. Save the document. Now you can refer to this txt file whenever you forget any of your zois details. TLDR: These details can be whatever you want them to be. That's not a solution. That's an inconvenience. And it's something that I already do with The Sims 4.
mynewusername Posted April 10, 2025 Posted April 10, 2025 On 4/6/2025 at 9:05 AM, paradisesins said: Age expressed in numbers --> 30, 60... Nationalities expressed in words -> French, Canadian... zoi probably have aging not same as humans, just like sims. sim age ranges not line up at all with human age ranges, so giving exact number not possible, so zoi likely same. nationality probably not exist either, only one place in game so no other nation. so nothing to say since game not have this.
paradisesins Posted April 10, 2025 Author Posted April 10, 2025 4 hours ago, mynewusername said: zoi probably have aging not same as humans, just like sims. sim age ranges not line up at all with human age ranges, so giving exact number not possible, so zoi likely same. nationality probably not exist either, only one place in game so no other nation. so nothing to say since game not have this. So you saying zois are not humans? That's the only reason for the age not being possible to be expressed in numbers? And about the nationalities, right on the beginning of the game there is a "parallel universe world map" to chose a city from. So nationalities can be very much done. I don't see why it would be an impediment to implement something so simple. American city: Indonesian city: Korean city: 1
mynewusername Posted April 10, 2025 Posted April 10, 2025 12 hours ago, paradisesins said: So you saying zois are not humans? That's the only reason for the age not being possible to be expressed in numbers? exactly, they probably do not have same age proportions as real humans, just like sims don't. therefore not possible to translate directly to real years. 12 hours ago, paradisesins said: And about the nationalities, right on the beginning of the game there is a "parallel universe world map" to chose a city from. So nationalities can be very much done. I don't see why it would be an impediment to implement something so simple. See, real world nations not exist. map is not even earth. maybe you get fake zoi-nationality instead. 2
竹柏影 Posted April 23, 2025 Posted April 23, 2025 On 4/11/2025 at 4:08 AM, mynewusername said: exactly, they probably do not have same age proportions as real humans, just like sims don't. therefore not possible to translate directly to real years. See, real world nations not exist. map is not even earth. maybe you get fake zoi-nationality instead. I think I'm pretty good at geography, this map really doesn't look like the Earth. 1
Notyourfren Posted April 27, 2025 Posted April 27, 2025 isn't that even the world map where zoi's living is purely fictional? dev probably will update about it later with "new" country and its lore, or even modders in this case 2
paradisesins Posted April 30, 2025 Author Posted April 30, 2025 Where have I even mentioned something about the fictional world? I'm talking about nationalities and age.
Demonwise Posted May 2, 2025 Posted May 2, 2025 On 4/30/2025 at 4:00 AM, paradisesins said: Where have I even mentioned something about the fictional world? I'm talking about nationalities and age. Well the problem is that the devs have not added nations. There are cities that "EVOKE" the look and feeling of cities in nations of the real world but they are not actually of those nationalities in the game. There is no Korean city, American city or Indonesian city. There are only cities that look and feel like them. The world in InZoi does not currently have nationalities. So for now, there is no way to express a Zoi's nationality. 1
paradisesins Posted May 3, 2025 Author Posted May 3, 2025 I still don't see how that is a constraint.
Demonwise Posted May 3, 2025 Posted May 3, 2025 You: "I wanna know the Zoi's nationality" Me/Community: "InZoi nations do not currently exist" You: "I still don't see how that is a constraint" Pretty sure it is a pretty big constraint to what you want bro. I'm not saying that it's fundamentally a bad idea but it just isn't possible right now and may not ever be possible. 3
paradisesins Posted May 6, 2025 Author Posted May 6, 2025 On 5/3/2025 at 12:39 PM, Demonwise said: You: "I wanna know the Zoi's nationality" Me/Community: "InZoi nations do not currently exist" You: "I still don't see how that is a constraint" Pretty sure it is a pretty big constraint to what you want bro. I'm not saying that it's fundamentally a bad idea but it just isn't possible right now and may not ever be possible. You: "It doesn't exist!" Me/Community: "Then fucking make it??" You: "It's impossible!" That just doesn't make any sense. Pretty sure that if you make nationalities, by default you get nations. Still don't see where's the constraint. Bro.
nutluck Posted May 6, 2025 Posted May 6, 2025 I would much rather see ethnicity than nationalities. Since Nationalities doesn't tell you much about a person beyond where they was born/live, especially since Inzoi is not earth but a fictional world. While ethnicity tells you more about their genetic makeup as a person.
Demonwise Posted May 6, 2025 Posted May 6, 2025 4 hours ago, paradisesins said: You: "It doesn't exist!" Me/Community: "Then fucking make it??" You: "It's impossible!" That just doesn't make any sense. Pretty sure that if you make nationalities, by default you get nations. Still don't see where's the constraint. Bro. You misunderstood me. I meant that WITHOUT arbitrarily making up fake country names (i.e. Henpecked, CheeseSauce, Bumsack, Nopesville) it is impossible. It doesn't make much sense to mod into the game fake real world country names since InZoi is not based on the real world nor is their map based on the real world. Only their cities take inspiration from real world locations. Frankly, it would be very hard not to base it on real world cities because then every city would just look like every other city with the same mix of buildings and such. It's only the uniqueness of building design, décor and obviously geography that make even real world cities look different from one another. 2
paradisesins Posted May 7, 2025 Author Posted May 7, 2025 15 hours ago, Demonwise said: You misunderstood me. I meant that WITHOUT arbitrarily making up fake country names (i.e. Henpecked, CheeseSauce, Bumsack, Nopesville) it is impossible. It doesn't make much sense to mod into the game fake real world country names since InZoi is not based on the real world nor is their map based on the real world. Only their cities take inspiration from real world locations. Frankly, it would be very hard not to base it on real world cities because then every city would just look like every other city with the same mix of buildings and such. It's only the uniqueness of building design, décor and obviously geography that make even real world cities look different from one another. You say: "InZoi is not based on the real world nor is their map based on the real world" Then you say: "Only their cities take inspiration from real world locations" So which is it, demon? Do they base/take inspiration or not? Is the map not a city? Inzoi is not based on the real world but inzoi cities yes? What do you even mean by that? I think the problem is not that I'm struggling understanding you. The problem is that even you don't know what you're trying to say.
Demonwise Posted May 7, 2025 Posted May 7, 2025 5 hours ago, paradisesins said: You say: "InZoi is not based on the real world nor is their map based on the real world" Then you say: "Only their cities take inspiration from real world locations" So which is it, demon? Do they base/take inspiration or not? Is the map not a city? Inzoi is not based on the real world but inzoi cities yes? What do you even mean by that? I think the problem is not that I'm struggling understanding you. The problem is that even you don't know what you're trying to say. Ok, now you're just getting insulting. What do you want me to say? I clearly explained what "inspiration" meant. I clearly explained that every city would look the same as every other city otherwise minus geographical changes if they didn't take some kind of inspiration from the real world. Hell, even in the real world there are countless cities that look more or less like any other city. There is a difference between taking inspiration from real life and BEING real life. InZoi is a make-believe world with make-believe cities that are not real nor identical to any real city. They draw only inspiration in construction and design from the real world. That doesn't make it actually real. If you want 'nationalities' then you would have to make up fake nations. I already explained that. 1
paradisesins Posted May 8, 2025 Author Posted May 8, 2025 23 hours ago, Demonwise said: Ok, now you're just getting insulting. What do you want me to say? I clearly explained what "inspiration" meant. I clearly explained that every city would look the same as every other city otherwise minus geographical changes if they didn't take some kind of inspiration from the real world. Hell, even in the real world there are countless cities that look more or less like any other city. There is a difference between taking inspiration from real life and BEING real life. InZoi is a make-believe world with make-believe cities that are not real nor identical to any real city. They draw only inspiration in construction and design from the real world. That doesn't make it actually real. If you want 'nationalities' then you would have to make up fake nations. I already explained that. I don’t know why you’re getting offended, I haven’t insulted you at any point. If stating facts and explaining things to you is somehow insulting to you, that’s on you. I’ve made my point very clear. You on the other half, not so much.
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