Race menu overlays problem

[timmy90909090]

I've asked other places and have only seen this mention a few times on nexus and reddit and no real answers but the just of it is body overlays clip though armor clothing etc. the further I zoom the camera out. anything that lets you see a body overlay for that matter.

 

Here be an example. (made the overlay red to see it easier)

 

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And before anyone says it's the armor or body etc. I disabled every single mod but race menu and its requirements plus an overlay mod and this still happened on a vanilla body with a vanilla outfit that shows skin such as the fur armor or even the underwear for that matter. I also play on the latest version of Skyrim (1.6.1170) I mention this because I don't recall this happening when I played on the downgraded version (1.5.97) but that was a few years ago I don't really remember. Anyways thanks if anyone answers this query of mine, but with all the looking I've done there hasn't been an answer yet.

Edited March 9, 2025 by timmy90909090
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[Dorabella]

3 hours ago, timmy90909090 said:

but the just of it is body overlays clip though armor clothing

Which overlay would that be?  It would be better to show it on the naked body without alterations . Having made it red , can only be misleading

If I were to go by what I see, you are using a wrong race . If you are using a Custom preset for racemenu, which one is it?

[Seijin8]

4 hours ago, timmy90909090 said:

I've asked other places and have only seen this mention a few times on nexus and reddit and no real answers but the just of it is body overlays clip though armor clothing etc. the further I zoom the camera out. anything that lets you see a body overlay for that matter.

 

Here be an example. (made the overlay red to see it easier)

 

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And before anyone says it's the armor or body etc. I disabled every single mod but race menu and its requirements plus an overlay mod and this still happened on a vanilla body with a vanilla outfit that shows skin such as the fur armor or even the underwear for that matter. I also play on the latest version of Skyrim (1.6.1170) I mention this because I don't recall this happening when I played on the downgraded version (1.5.97) but that was a few years ago I don't really remember. Anyways thanks if anyone answers this query of mine, but with all the looking I've done there hasn't been an answer yet.

 

Did you give it a glowing color?  There's 2 different colors for a racemenu overlay, one of them would look like this if it were set to glow.

[timmy90909090]

12 hours ago, Dorabella said:

Which overlay would that be?  It would be better to show it on the naked body without alterations . Having made it red , can only be misleading

If I were to go by what I see, you are using a wrong race . If you are using a Custom preset for racemenu, which one is it?

No custom preset is being use I make my own characters. The overlay above is the corrupted body paint from one of the community overlay mods, but it doesn't matter because it's not just that overlay it's all overlays from any mod, which makes me wonder if it's some sort of engine level bug or perhaps race menu itself I Dunno. Another example here for you is Tribal Body Tattoos by Deep Red hosted here on loverslab with the plain Nord race with plain fur armor in plain white (notice the clipping/bleeding through on the right leg) 

 

I posted another example below this post.

 

Link to overlay mod

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Edited March 9, 2025 by timmy90909090

[timmy90909090]

Here another example to everyone, using the newest overlay I could find on the nexus "GW2 Eir Racemenu Overlays by RandallSteele" to show this happens to me with any overlays. (The overlay color is in plain black FYI)

 

Link to overlay mod

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GW2 Eir Racemenu Overlays at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community

 

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Edited March 9, 2025 by timmy90909090

[Dorabella]

1 hour ago, timmy90909090 said:

Zoomed out (bleeding/clipping through when zoomed out so odd)

 The problem, it is not only yours, you have to configure SKee64.ini for transparencies/overlays

 

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It should be this string

 

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[Overlays/Data]
; Assigns these alpha properties to all overlays when they are applied
; 4844, 128 is recommended for solid overlays (they will render correctly underwater)
; Changing the overlay's alpha value ingame acts like 4845 regardless of assigned flags
iAlphaFlags=4845 ; Default[4845]
iAlphaThreshold=0 ; Default[0]
sDefaultTexture=textures\actors\character\overlays\default.dds

 

[timmy90909090]

5 hours ago, Dorabella said:

 The problem, it is not only yours, you have to configure SKee64.ini for transparencies/overlays

 

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It should be this string

 

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[Overlays/Data]
; Assigns these alpha properties to all overlays when they are applied
; 4844, 128 is recommended for solid overlays (they will render correctly underwater)
; Changing the overlay's alpha value ingame acts like 4845 regardless of assigned flags
iAlphaFlags=4845 ; Default[4845]
iAlphaThreshold=0 ; Default[0]
sDefaultTexture=textures\actors\character\overlays\default.dds

 

  timmyWILLIAM is my nexus account that was me asking there, and that string in SKee64.ini when I have edited the numbers in many different combinations it either does nothing makes the overlay very faint/faded or makes my entire body pure black. Granted I don't really know what alpha flags or thresholds are. I asked another person about overlay clipping once and was the only other answer I ever got but they said it could be "depth buffer precision used for transparency sorting" which again I have no idea what that is, so I just dropped that conversation. I'm not that tech savvy. 

 

Again, I'm not really expecting a solution this whole thing is just a small cosmetic issue not an overly big deal, and I don't like to bother people with questions and waste people time so don't feel inclined to help more then you have already.

Edited March 10, 2025 by timmy90909090

[Jetsky]

Hey, this is happening to me aswell, were you able to find a fix? Do you remember if this issue has always happened or if it was after an update from some mod?

[timmy90909090]

On 3/11/2025 at 2:01 PM, Jetsky said:

Hey, this is happening to me aswell, were you able to find a fix? Do you remember if this issue has always happened or if it was after an update from some mod?

Sorry but no I haven't found a fix. Only thing I for sure remember is this issue didn't happen on Skyrim LE and maybe the downgrade 1.5.97 version of SSE I played on for a moment, but I won't be downgrading again to just test an overlay problem.

Edited March 13, 2025 by timmy90909090

[Jetsky]

9 hours ago, timmy90909090 said:

Sorry but no I haven't found a fix. Only thing I for sure remember is this issue didn't happen on Skyrim LE and maybe the downgrade 1.5.97 version of SSE I played on for a moment, but I won't be downgrading again to just test an overlay problem.

Yeah, I remember it didn't happen in some versions back then, but I can't remember which, although it was special edition, maybe it was before the release of anniversary edition. Is not the greatest thing to happen ever, but it's really annoying when I want to wear tattos and this happens

[Jetsky]

2 minutes ago, Jetsky said:

Yeah, I remember it didn't happen in some versions back then, but I can't remember which, although it was special edition, maybe it was before the release of anniversary edition. Is not the greatest thing to happen ever, but it's really annoying when I want to wear tattos and this happens

I just found a photo I had on august 20th 2024 and it was happening back then, I don't remember which version I was using though

[timmy90909090]

22 hours ago, Jetsky said:

I just found a photo I had on august 20th 2024 and it was happening back then, I don't remember which version I was using though

well, if you ever do figure anything out let me know and I'll do the same, though I doubt I'm finding a fix to this seemingly rare problem anytime soon

[traison]

6 hours ago, timmy90909090 said:

I doubt I'm finding a fix to this seemingly rare problem anytime soon

 

Rare perhaps, but I do not see this as being a potentially difficult problem. The issue for me with this is that I can't really think of anything else to test or change, meaning I'd have to see this issue for myself to fix it. If one of you are up to a RustDesk/TeamViewer session, and don't mind me bringing my tools and/or changing system configuration then lets do it.

[Jetsky]

3 hours ago, traison said:

 

Rare perhaps, but I do not see this as being a potentially difficult problem. The issue for me with this is that I can't really think of anything else to test or change, meaning I'd have to see this issue for myself to fix it. If one of you are up to a RustDesk/TeamViewer session, and don't mind me bringing my tools and/or changing system configuration then lets do it.

Sure, it's fine by me you can text me whenever you have time so we can check whats happening

[traison]

Right, I stand corrected. Apparently this is a rare and difficult problem. Jetsky allowed me to borrow their computer for 2 hours and I couldn't get it fixed. Things that remain to be done/tested:

1. Nuking Skyrim ini files.
2. Creating a new profile in MO2 and isolating the bare-minimums to replicate the test with the tattoos and the gloves/nails.
3. Making sure there's not something silly going on with actor transparency.
4. Testing vanilla glove meshes. (I did not check if the ones I used in the test were altered)
5. Testing different display drivers. (unlikely to fix this)
6. Testing a different RaceMenu version. (just tought of this one, should have been obvious)

[Jetsky]

Hey so there's an update here, I tried to test with a new game with no mods other than the ones needed installed and it got better, but the issue was still there, what it changed is that it was less noticeable, I had to zoom far out more than before to notice the clipping of the tattoo, so I just guess it's one of the issues that appeared on the latest versions of the mod

[traison]

There's also this thing from the RaceMenu mod description:

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KNOWN ISSUES 2.0.0 to current

Body/Hand/Feet paint may appear to be rendered overtop of some effects, this is a known issue. The reason this happens is due to the AlphaProperty flags on the overlay template meshes, changing these to the other set of flags results in overlays occasionally partially rendering on the skin.

 

This was found by Jetsky after our remote session.

 

This probably doesn't explain timmy's issues, as these newer version are only for newer Skyrim versions, but this looks like something Skyrim AE players will just have to accept.

[timmy90909090]

Couldn't hurt to ask to anyone who sees this, but any news/info on this issue perhaps and mod that might fix this. its ok if there are none just asking.