Honesty Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 Well, I thought I'd ask for some help with my load order. I am by no means a newbie to this, but I may have some .esp's/.esm's loaded in "strange" places ... even AFTER using the LoversLoad Guide and using BOSS. I am in hopes, trying to find a stable-er game. If I could play longer, and crash less... I'll be a happy man. So with all that said, please take a look! -- Oblivion Load Order (After using BOSS, Guide and Arranging myself -- Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm x117race.esm Lovers with PK.esm LoversCreature.esm BreakUndies.esm All Natural Base.esm Qarls_Harvest.esm BathingMod_Base.esm CM Partners.esm Toaster Says Share v3.esm DanceSynchronizator.esm HorseCombatMaster.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp DBSQR.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp DBSQR - Shivering Isles.esp EURN.esp LoadingScreens.esp All Natural.esp All Natural - SI.esp All Natural - Real Lights.esp OBGE - Liquid Water.esp Immersive Interiors.esp OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp LCD.esp **<--- This .esp works inconjunction with Logitech G15 LCD Keyboard ** My Voice Extender.esp Qarls_Harvest.esp Regrowing Nirnroot - Normal Plant.esp shiveringislesdoorusable.esp VA_BetterGold.esp DropLitTorchOBSE.esp Get Wet Dark.esp Quick Wardrobe.esp [AyleidStatueMap.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked [shadowbanisMap.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked ShowDaedricShrines.esp RealisticFlora.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DBSQR - Orrery.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DBSQR - Vile Lair.esp RealisticFlora - DLCVileLair.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DBSQR - MehrunesRazor.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp AHIRUs_Glasses_v1.esp BSK Break Undies.esp Dancing Shadow Rose Break Undies.esp KitRae Exotic Dual Remake.esp Unique Enticing Skill Books.esp Colourwheels Sexy Stock Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp Colourwheels Sexy SI Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp R18PN - Heilige Mutter Armor.esp Slof's Horses Base.esp Slof's Extra Horses.esp Slof's Extra Horses 2.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp Alluring Wine Bottles.esp HentaiLovelyHouse.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp RealisticFlora - DLCFrostcrag.esp Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp DBSQR - Knights of the Nine.esp Bag of Holding.esp Colourwheels Sexy Bank.esp HUD Status Bars.esp Furniture Repriced.esp Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp Leviathan Soulgems.esp [quickstart.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked BathingMod_Soap.esp BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp SetBody.esp Enchantment Enhanced.esp [basicInstinct.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked [CTAddPose_Bondage_Sex.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked [CTAddPose_Bondage_Sex-2.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked [CTAddpose_2ch_(Hentai).esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked [CTAddPose_gobu.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked [CTAddPose_2ch.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked [CTAddpose_2ch-2.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked [CTAddPose_Dsk(erori-2)Pose.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked [actors_in_charge.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked [EFGAddPose.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked [NaRae Pose - 01.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked [NaRae Pose - 01 Guide Book.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked [NaRae Pose - 02.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked [PoseBooks.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked Specialanims.esp **<--- Ignore this if you will, it's a fix I made in CS for some idle animations** FastTravelAllowed.esp CM Partners.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseA00 Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp x117race.esp Lop-ears Elf.esp [DesuChan's Kawa-Khaijiits.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked [Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked [CM Partners Friska] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked No_Load_Screen_on_Death-5824.esp [2011_Studio.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked [2011_Studio_Alternate.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked Nightwynd Beauty Posters.esp BathingMod_Base_nopenaltiespatch.esp Lop-ears Elf II.esp City Life-x117.esp Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp Lop-ears Elf II_mini.esp Magician_Girls.esp Enchanting and Spellmaking.esp Corpsefix.esp HTBMondSteinHGECManicure.esp BlackLolita.esp HepsCloth4.esp HepsCloth5.esp HepsCloth3.esp HepsCloth6.esp HepsCloth8-maidsan.esp HepsClothes_Remodels.esp GloriousMageDress.esp Notused_Leather.esp [LoversClubCats.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked [LoversClubCatsSx.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversVoiceSSPforCityLifex117.esp LoversVoiceSSPx117.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversJoburg.esp LoversJoburgCustomizer.esp LoversTachiCat2.esp LoversBed.esp LoversPayBandit.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversBitch.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp WindowLightingSystem.esp From2chLivesMOON.esp LegendaryWeapons&Armor_2ch.esp zzEDialog.esp DSDatabase.esp DanceSyncEng.esp [GangBangSync.esp] <--- In load order but not loaded/checked ahtata Ork.esp Ahtata Arquamer spike4hair.esp Ahtata_Khabaxi.esp Streamline 3.1.esp DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp ------------------- Thanks again guys - appreciate it if anyone could offer up some suggestions (And that's it ... I don't use WyreBash ... I really would rather not take the time out and learn it. Plausibly when a good/stable version is released and works will with Skyrim .. then I'll possibly learn it haha.. so please don't mention it too much, in topic : )
gregathit Posted December 14, 2011 Posted December 14, 2011 Well, other than a few tweaks you LO is not bad. You might take a look at merging some of your clothing mods (which would cut down quite a few esps) - and the fewer the better, right! Also move LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp above LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp as adultplay is a master of voice. Also, you might look at moving the esp's you aren't using to a temp location outside of the oblivion game folders. If you remember oblivion will see (but not use) these for some strange reason and they count towards your esp limit (you can always pull these mods - most look like pose stuff - back for screenies at any time). I see streamline so I assume you have the 4GB patch and likely OSR too? Lastly the only other bit I could suggest is....wink....wink....wrye If you can get BBB working in game then wrye is actually easy!!! That is all I can offer. Hopefully if I missed anything someone will jump in for the save!
Honesty Posted December 14, 2011 Author Posted December 14, 2011 Yep, I have OSR and the Oblivion.exe, obse.exe and the other obse thing are all checked for 2GB+ (via CT Explorer) I'll move the one file you mentioned (are all those voice/ssp files needed? Or do I have too many? Plausibly some are not supported anymore?) And I of course figure, DR5/Ryona could be randomly causing crashes also. I have that crash-"fix" obse plugin installed, but it hasn't helped me yet (I haven't heard any bells/"dings" - when I crash, I crash). My videocard isn't OC'd, Afterburner/EVGA Precision/EVGA E-Leet isn't running. My Processor *is* slightly OC'd (it's a 24/7 water cooled, don't feel like removing it "sadly." Lets see, what else... I have a few multithreaded tweaks enabled in the .ini but that's about it I think.. can't think of anything else. If anyone has any .ini tips or anything else to offer would greatly appreciate. Lastly, how would I go about merging some of the clothing files? I'd love to merge HepsCloth, as they all use the sameish folders anyway .. but not too sure how I would go about doing that (wanna merge for me, and I send you the single .esp's..? haha xD) Thank you again, Greg
gregathit Posted December 14, 2011 Posted December 14, 2011 Yep' date=' I have OSR and the Oblivion.exe, obse.exe and the other obse thing are all checked for 2GB+ (via CT Explorer) I'll move the one file you mentioned (are all those voice/ssp files needed? Or do I have too many? Plausibly some are not supported anymore?) And I of course figure, DR5/Ryona could be randomly causing crashes also. I have that crash-"fix" obse plugin installed, but it hasn't helped me yet (I haven't heard any bells/"dings" - when I crash, I crash). My videocard isn't OC'd, Afterburner/EVGA Precision/EVGA E-Leet isn't running. My Processor *is* slightly OC'd (it's a 24/7 water cooled, don't feel like removing it "sadly." Lets see, what else... I have a few multithreaded tweaks enabled in the .ini but that's about it I think.. can't think of anything else. If anyone has any .ini tips or anything else to offer would greatly appreciate. Lastly, how would I go about merging some of the clothing files? I'd love to merge HepsCloth, as they all use the sameish folders anyway .. but not too sure how I would go about doing that (wanna merge for me, and I send you the single .esp's..? haha xD) Thank you again, Greg [/quote'] What I have used in the past to merge esp's is TES4Gecko DL link: http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8665 If you get stuck or confused on how to use then you can grab this Tutorial Link: http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=38655 Remember Oblivion is a CPU driven game so that will likely be the bottleneck on most modern systems. As to all the other voice files - I don't think you need any except the latest version of loversvoiceSSP (1.19). I think the x117 support is now built in but in lieu of deleting them just disable them and move them out of your oblivion directory and test. That is about all I can suggest.
Guest GingerTom Posted December 14, 2011 Posted December 14, 2011 If you remember oblivion will see (but not use) these for some strange reason and they count towards your esp limit I didn't know this--I always keep a pile of them right at the end when not using them. Thanks for the tip.
EvenstarGW Posted December 14, 2011 Posted December 14, 2011 Most simple armor plugins can be merged with Gecko. If there's scripted stuff in there you may want to be careful though. My personal method of merging is by using the toolset. You can open a mod and copy all the armor/clothes/weapons to a new ID (handy to make them all have the same prefix), add them to a container and gather them all in one place, instead of having to go all over Cyrodiil to find your preferred armor. My personal merged armors plugin consists of a large refurbished ayleid ruin hidden in the basement of Wawnett Inn. It's stacked with hundreds of containers (got slightly out of hand maybe ). Depends a bit whether you want to invest the time to do it that way or if you just need to reduce the amount of esp's without too much work.
Honesty Posted December 16, 2011 Author Posted December 16, 2011 Thanks for the advice guys. Another question is anyone is still reading this... does the Crash "fix" obse plug-in conflict with any other plug-in's? As mentioned, when I crash ... I crash. I haven't heard any bells/whistles/dings yet... so I most definitely haven't been saved by this mod yet... haha
DogOnPorch Posted December 16, 2011 Posted December 16, 2011 It prevents a number of known crash points. I hear it go off when I load a save that was in another cell than the one I died in (etc). Usually this results in a crash in a heavily modified Oblivion. But it goes 'ding ding ding' then loads just fine.
gregathit Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 As DogOnPorch said it will prevent any crashes that the mod maker coded into it. However there are a large number of things that the mod author did not anticipate and since he stopped working on this mod years ago it will only go so far.
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