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Hello folks,

I've had a progressive playthrough corruption, now I can't load any of the saves of my last session

the thing is there was no particular change..

Loading ctest cell and then the save did not help

Tried unticking a lot of potential culprits

Tried cleaning in resaver

 

Before scratching this playthrough and starting all over I thought some tech genius here would maybe point out an issue ...

 

Here are the extracts of the crash logs I attached

 

Spoiler

Unhandled native exception occurred at 0x1D9A2BB5292 (skee64.dll+75292) on thread 41912!

FrameworkName: NetScriptFramework
FrameworkVersion: 15
FrameworkArchitecture: x64
GameLibrary: SkyrimSE
GameLibraryVersion: 18
ApplicationName: SkyrimSE.exe
ApplicationVersion: 1.5.97.0
VersionInfo: Successfully loaded
Time: 25 Jan 2025 01:32:09.994

Possible relevant objects (2)
{
  [ 319]    TESNPC(Name: `Elk`, FormId: FF009FF3)
  [ 319]    Character(FormId: FF007F28, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Elk`, FormId: FF009FF3))
}

Probable callstack
{
  [0]   0x1D9A2BB5292      (skee64.dll+75292)             
  [1]   0x1D9A2B96710      (skee64.dll+56710)             
  [2]   0xFFFFFFFF                                        
  [3]   0x1D970630000                                     
  [4]   0xB19EFAE429                                      
}

Registers
{
  AX:       0x7                (u8):[7]
  BX:       0x0                (NULL)
  CX:       0x0                (NULL)
  DX:       0x1D9A2CF5C68      (skee64.dll+1B5C68) (char**) "h - Value: 0.930000\nLoaded Morph: CME_BrowSlope - Value: -0.210000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Lip_Lower_Thickness - Value: 0.550000\nLoaded Morph: ECE_EarShape - Value: 2.000000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Brow_Angle - Value: 0.400000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Eyes_Inner_Thickness - Value: 1.640000\nLoaded Morph: ECE_EarSize - Value: -0.150000\nLoaded Morph: CME_EarUpDown - Value: 0.270000\nLoaded Morph: CME_EyesUpDown - Value: -0.160000\nLoaded Morph: CME_NoseBackForward - Value: -0.060000\nLoaded Morph: NSK_MouthSmile - Value: -0.110000\nLoaded Morph: NSK_LipThickness - Value: 0.240000\nLoaded Morph: CME_AroundNoseBackForward - Value: -0.210000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Nose_Bridge_Depth - Value: 0.010000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Chin_Height - Value: 0.010000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Lip_Width - Value: 0.210000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Nose_Tip_Width - Value: 2.270000\nLoaded Morph: CME_CheeksBlow - Value: 0.480000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Brow_Height - Value: -0.230000\nLoaded Morph: CME_MouthCornerBackForward - Value: -1.010000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Chin_Depth - Value: 0.010000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Chin_Shape - Value: -1.210000\nLoaded Morph: CME_NoseSellionBackForward - Value: 0.060000\nLoaded Morph: RANs_Weight - Value: 0.040000\nLoaded Morph: CME_JawBackForward - Value: -0.750000\nLoaded Morph: CME_BrowArch - Value: 0.060000\nLoaded Morph: CME_ChinBackForward - Value: -0.560000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Nose_Tip_Thickness - Value: 0.510000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Eyes_Inner_Width - Value: -0.090000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Nose_Wing_Thickness - Value: 0.030000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Eyes_Outer_Height - Value: -1.870000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Nose_Wing_Width - Value: -0.910000\nLoaded Morph: CME_UpperEyesHeight - Value: -0.060000\nLoaded Morph: CME_EyelashLength - Value: 0.360000\nLoaded Morph: CME_EyesHeight - Value: -0.110000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Eyes_Inner_Height - Value: 0.160000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Brow_Thickness - Value: 0.460000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Eyeground_Depth - Value: 0.320000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Eyes_Outer_Width - Value: 1.760000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Eyes_Outer_Thickness - Value: -0.880000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Eyes_Size - Value: -0.040000\nLoaded Morph: CME_ChinUpDown - Value: 0.010000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Eyes_Lower_Height - Value: 0.040000\nLoaded Morph: CME_UnderChinSlope - Value: 0.010000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Face_Height - Value: 0.010000\nLoaded Morph: CME_CheeksUpDown - Value: -0.160000\nLoaded Morph: CME_UpperLipHeight - Value: 0.010000\nLoaded Morph: CME_NoseUpDown - Value: -0.110000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Lip_Upper_Thickness - Value: 0.380000\nLoaded Morph: CME_BrowInOut - Value: -0.410000\nLoaded Morph: CME_BrowBackForward - Value: 0.310000\nLoaded Morph: ECE_NoseBridgeWidth - Value: 0.010000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Nose_Bridge_Width - Value: 0.300000\nLoaded Morph: RANs_ForeheadBackForward - Value: 0.460000\nLoaded Morph: RANs_NoseRidgeShape - Value: 0.510000\nLoaded Morph: CME_NoseLength - Value: -0.010000\nLoaded Morph: NSK_JawShape - Value: 3.000000\nLoaded Morph: NSK_CheekShape - Value: -0.360000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Jaw_Depth - Value: -0.430000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Jaw_Height - Value: -0.450000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Jaw_Width - Value: 0.800000\nLoaded Morph: CME_CheeksBoneInOut - Value: 3.000000\nLoaded Morph: CME_CheeksWidth - Value: -0.760000\nLoaded Morph: CME_JawWidth - Value: 0.840000\nLoaded Morph: CME_JawUpDown - Value: 0.010000\nLoaded Morph: CME_EyesSlope - Value: 0.110000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Cheek_Depth - Value:"
  SI:       0x0                (NULL)
  DI:       0x0                (NULL)
  BP:       0xB19EFAE3E9       (void*)
  SP:       0xB19EFAE350       (void*)
  IP:       0x1D9A2BB5292      (skee64.dll+75292) (void*)
  R8:       0xA                (u8):[10]
  R9:       0xB19EFADD58       (void*)
  R10:      0xB19EFAE198       (void*)
  R11:      0xB19EFAE1C0       (void*)
  R12:      0xB19EFAE7D0       (void*)
  R13:      0x0                (NULL)
  R14:      0x7FFBC4B43B10     (skse64_1_5_97.dll+123B10) (void*)
  R15:      0xB19EFAE480       (void*)
  Flags:    0x10246           
  XMM0:     (double)1.00505354895598E-311 / (float)-5.620705E-18
  XMM1:     (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM2:     (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM3:     (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM4:     (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM5:     (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM6:     (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM7:     (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM8:     (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM9:     (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM10:    (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM11:    (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM12:    (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM13:    (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM14:    (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM15:    (double)0 / (float)0
}

 

Another

Spoiler

Unhandled native exception occurred at 0x7FFB9DBC5292 (skee64.dll+75292) on thread 38708!

FrameworkName: NetScriptFramework
FrameworkVersion: 15
FrameworkArchitecture: x64
GameLibrary: SkyrimSE
GameLibraryVersion: 18
ApplicationName: SkyrimSE.exe
ApplicationVersion: 1.5.97.0
VersionInfo: Successfully loaded
Time: 25 Jan 2025 01:22:30.241

Possible relevant objects (3)
{
  [ 212]    NiNode(Name: `SkyrimStars`)
  [ 319]    TESObjectMISC(Name: `(Bounty) Giant's Head`, FormId: FE25980F, File: `_NEFARAM_StringsFixes.esp <- Headhunter - Bounties Redone.esp`)
  [ 319]    TESObjectREFR(FormId: FF00A1F4, BaseForm: TESObjectMISC(Name: `(Bounty) Giant's Head`, FormId: FE25980F, File: `_NEFARAM_StringsFixes.esp <- Headhunter - Bounties Redone.esp`))
}

Probable callstack
{
  [0]   0x7FFB9DBC5292     (skee64.dll+75292)             
  [1]   0x7FFB9DBA6710     (skee64.dll+56710)             
  [2]   0xFFFFFFFF                                        
  [3]   0x1E1EA6A0000                                     
  [4]   0x681B11E429                                      
}

Registers
{
  AX:       0x7                (u8):[7]
  BX:       0x0                (NULL)
  CX:       0x0                (NULL)
  DX:       0x7FFB9DD05C68     (skee64.dll+1B5C68) (char**) "- Value: 0.930000\nLoaded Morph: CME_BrowSlope - Value: -0.210000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Lip_Lower_Thickness - Value: 0.550000\nLoaded Morph: ECE_EarShape - Value: 2.000000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Brow_Angle - Value: 0.400000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Eyes_Inner_Thickness - Value: 1.640000\nLoaded Morph: ECE_EarSize - Value: -0.150000\nLoaded Morph: CME_EarUpDown - Value: 0.270000\nLoaded Morph: CME_EyesUpDown - Value: -0.160000\nLoaded Morph: CME_NoseBackForward - Value: -0.060000\nLoaded Morph: NSK_MouthSmile - Value: -0.110000\nLoaded Morph: NSK_LipThickness - Value: 0.240000\nLoaded Morph: CME_AroundNoseBackForward - Value: -0.210000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Nose_Bridge_Depth - Value: 0.010000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Chin_Height - Value: 0.010000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Lip_Width - Value: 0.210000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Nose_Tip_Width - Value: 2.270000\nLoaded Morph: CME_CheeksBlow - Value: 0.480000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Brow_Height - Value: -0.230000\nLoaded Morph: CME_MouthCornerBackForward - Value: -1.010000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Chin_Depth - Value: 0.010000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Chin_Shape - Value: -1.210000\nLoaded Morph: CME_NoseSellionBackForward - Value: 0.060000\nLoaded Morph: RANs_Weight - Value: 0.040000\nLoaded Morph: CME_JawBackForward - Value: -0.750000\nLoaded Morph: CME_BrowArch - Value: 0.060000\nLoaded Morph: CME_ChinBackForward - Value: -0.560000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Nose_Tip_Thickness - Value: 0.510000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Eyes_Inner_Width - Value: -0.090000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Nose_Wing_Thickness - Value: 0.030000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Eyes_Outer_Height - Value: -1.870000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Nose_Wing_Width - Value: -0.910000\nLoaded Morph: CME_UpperEyesHeight - Value: -0.060000\nLoaded Morph: CME_EyelashLength - Value: 0.360000\nLoaded Morph: CME_EyesHeight - Value: -0.110000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Eyes_Inner_Height - Value: 0.160000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Brow_Thickness - Value: 0.460000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Eyeground_Depth - Value: 0.320000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Eyes_Outer_Width - Value: 1.760000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Eyes_Outer_Thickness - Value: -0.880000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Eyes_Size - Value: -0.040000\nLoaded Morph: CME_ChinUpDown - Value: 0.010000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Eyes_Lower_Height - Value: 0.040000\nLoaded Morph: CME_UnderChinSlope - Value: 0.010000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Face_Height - Value: 0.010000\nLoaded Morph: CME_CheeksUpDown - Value: -0.160000\nLoaded Morph: CME_UpperLipHeight - Value: 0.010000\nLoaded Morph: CME_NoseUpDown - Value: -0.110000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Lip_Upper_Thickness - Value: 0.380000\nLoaded Morph: CME_BrowInOut - Value: -0.410000\nLoaded Morph: CME_BrowBackForward - Value: 0.310000\nLoaded Morph: ECE_NoseBridgeWidth - Value: 0.010000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Nose_Bridge_Width - Value: 0.300000\nLoaded Morph: RANs_ForeheadBackForward - Value: 0.460000\nLoaded Morph: RANs_NoseRidgeShape - Value: 0.510000\nLoaded Morph: CME_NoseLength - Value: -0.010000\nLoaded Morph: NSK_JawShape - Value: 3.000000\nLoaded Morph: NSK_CheekShape - Value: -0.360000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Jaw_Depth - Value: -0.430000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Jaw_Height - Value: -0.450000\nLoaded Morph: EFM_Jaw_Width - Value: 0.800000\nLoaded Morph: CME_CheeksBoneInOut - Value: 3.000000\nLoaded Morph: CME_CheeksWidth - Value: -0.760000\nLoaded Morph: CME_JawWidth - Value: 0.840000\nLoaded Morph: CME_JawUpDown - Value: 0.010000\nLoaded Morph: CME_EyesSlope - Value: 08 "
  SI:       0x0                (NULL)
  DI:       0x0                (NULL)
  BP:       0x681B11E3E9       (void*)
  SP:       0x681B11E350       (void*)
  IP:       0x7FFB9DBC5292     (skee64.dll+75292) (void*)
  R8:       0xA                (u8):[10]
  R9:       0x681B11DD58       (void*)
  R10:      0x681B11E198       (void*)
  R11:      0x681B11E1C0       (void*)
  R12:      0x681B11E7D0       (void*)
  R13:      0x0                (NULL)
  R14:      0x7FFBB11C3B10     (skse64_1_5_97.dll+123B10) (void*)
  R15:      0x681B11E480       (void*)
  Flags:    0x10246           
  XMM0:     (double)6.95242562263734E-310 / (float)-5.51544E-21
  XMM1:     (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM2:     (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM3:     (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM4:     (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM5:     (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM6:     (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM7:     (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM8:     (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM9:     (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM10:    (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM11:    (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM12:    (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM13:    (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM14:    (double)0 / (float)0
  XMM15:    (double)0 / (float)0
}

 

Might be worth mentionning: there is neither an elk nor a giant's head in the cell I'm loading

 

I really don't know what to do at this point

 

Thanks very much for reading!

 

Crash_2024_10_2_11-18-15.txt Crash_2024_10_1_15-39-4.txt

Guest

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Thanks for the tip!

Log is more helpful, I've finaly found the issue, it's related to the obody preset I'm using...

Guest

Guest

Posted
Posted

Ah wait no it came back :classic_sad:

 

Spoiler

Skyrim SSE v1.5.97
CrashLoggerSSE v1-15-0-0 Oct 12 2024 11:33:37

Unhandled exception "EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION" at 0x7FFC23155292 skee64.dll+0075292    and rax, [rdi+0x20]
Exception Flags: 0x00000000
Number of Parameters: 2
Access Violation: Tried to read memory at 0x000000000020

SYSTEM SPECS:
    OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Éducation v10.0.19045
    CPU: AuthenticAMD AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core Processor             
    GPU #1: Nvidia GA104 [GeForce RTX 3070]
    GPU #2: Microsoft Basic Render Driver
    PHYSICAL MEMORY: 13.56 GB/15.91 GB
    GPU MEMORY: 3.76/7.08 GB
    Detected Virtual Machine: Microsoft Hyper-V (100%)

PROBABLE CALL STACK:
    [ 0] 0x7FFC23155292        skee64.dll+0075292
    [ 1] 0x7FFC2315BB00        skee64.dll+007BB00
    [ 2] 0x7FFC2315B60B        skee64.dll+007B60B
    [ 3] 0x7FFC2315553D        skee64.dll+007553D
    [ 4] 0x7FFC2312E4F5        skee64.dll+004E4F5
    [ 5] 0x7FFC39BB68BB skse64_1_5_97.dll+00868BB
    [ 6] 0x7FFC39B3F734 skse64_1_5_97.dll+000F734
    [ 7] 0x7FF7E346F21B      SkyrimSE.exe+092F21B -> 53237+0x1EB    test al, al
    [ 8] 0x7FF7E346B822      SkyrimSE.exe+092B822 -> 53207+0x22    test al, al
    [ 9] 0x7FF7E30C0FCE      SkyrimSE.exe+0580FCE -> 34735+0xEE    nop
    [10] 0x7FF7E30BDADE      SkyrimSE.exe+057DADE -> 34677+0x93E    mov edx, 0x3EE
    [11] 0x7FFC39B4051B skse64_1_5_97.dll+001051B
    [12] 0x7FF7E30CB0A1      SkyrimSE.exe+058B0A1 -> 34872+0x271    movzx r12d, al
    [13] 0x7FF7E30C9D20      SkyrimSE.exe+0589D20 -> 34862+0x2C0    test al, al
    [14] 0x7FFC39B406E8 skse64_1_5_97.dll+00106E8
    [15] 0x7FF7E30F3074      SkyrimSE.exe+05B3074 -> 35565+0x84    mov rax, [0x00007FF7E4A00A48]
    [16] 0x7FFC2A1EC2C9      hdtSMP64.dll+00BC2C9    cmp byte ptr [rbx+0x10], 0x00 |  C:\Games\Faster HDT-SMP\skse64_2_00_20\src\skse64\hdtSMP64\Hooks.cpp:314 hdt::UnkEngine::onFrame (mangled: ?onFrame@UnkEngine@hdt@@QEAAXXZ)
    [17] 0x7FFC28595EC7    MuJointFix.dll+0025EC7    call 0x00007FFC285B32E0 |  D:\VS\MuJointFix\src\Hook.cpp:25 Mus::UnkEngine::onFrame (mangled: ?onFrame@UnkEngine@Mus@@QEAAXXZ)
    [18] 0x7FFC278E180A      Parrying.dll+002180A
    [19] 0x7FF7E30EF4F4      SkyrimSE.exe+05AF4F4 -> 35551+0x124    test bl, bl
    [20] 0x7FF7E30ECC05      SkyrimSE.exe+05ACC05 -> 35545+0x35    call 0x00007FF764050000
    [21] 0x7FF7E3E8B17A      SkyrimSE.exe+134B17A -> 102193+0x11E    mov ebx, eax
    [22] 0x7FFC7BC37374      KERNEL32.DLL+0017374
    [23] 0x7FFC7D91CC91         ntdll.dll+004CC91

REGISTERS:
    RAX 0x7                (size_t) [7]
    RCX 0x0                (size_t) [0]
    RDX 0x7FFC23295C68     (void* -> skee64.dll+01B5C68    xor eax, 0x591BFD54)
    RBX 0x0                (size_t) [0]
    RSP 0x59C898E880       (void*)
    RBP 0x59C898E919       (void*)
    RSI 0x0                (size_t) [0]
    RDI 0x0                (size_t) [0]
    R8  0xA                (size_t) [10]
    R9  0x59C898E288       (void*)
    R10 0x59C898E6C8       (void*)
    R11 0x59C898E6F0       (void*)
    R12 0x59C898ED00       (void*)
    R13 0x0                (size_t) [0]
    R14 0x7FFC39C53B10     (void* -> skse64_1_5_97.dll+0123B10    add al, 0x00)
    R15 0x59C898E9B0       (void*)

 

Let's resume the good old "disable stuff semi randomly until it works" :classic_sad::classic_sad::classic_sad:

 

crash-2025-01-27-22-31-05.log

Guest

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I think I'll give up

I've tried loading a much older save to see what happens, and basically : the saves are randomly corrupted upon saving.

Sometimes I save and I can load it 100% of times, sometimes I will never be able to load it.

traison

traison

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This crash occured in RaceMenu, as its loading something. May want to Google "NIOVTaskUpdateReference" to see what comes up, if anything. Consider disabling skee64-memleak-patch.dll, and anything else you may have messing with RM. Failing that, I'd need to know exactly which version of RM you have, so that I can throw the dll into a disassembler.

 

Edit: Oh and if you have mods that alter a lot of morphs, like bodygen, or fhu with everyone around you getting morphed, this could explain your issues. I seem to recall that there *may* be some upper limit to how many morphs RM can save/load or otherwise handle.

Edited by traison
Guest

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Thank you so much for the help
I'll try to disable every morph related mod and see what happens
 

Here is the crash log without https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/70161

Racemenu is v0.4.16

The base install is NEFARAM through wabbajack but I've modded the modlist so I won't get support from their discord :classic_sad:

crash-2025-01-28-11-57-17.log

 

I think this may be related to proteus ?, but I've disabled most of it and it still crashes

I'm inclined to think it's proteus because of the fact I can't get an older save to work

Edited by nopseudomoi
traison

traison

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Well the good news is that the memory patch changed nothing. The bad news is...

 

Same issue as here, I suspect (no solution):

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/197153-random-ctds-caused-by-skee64dll/#findComment-4176735
https://www.loverslab.com/topic/213950-crash-logger-been-trying-to-figure-this-out-for-a-few-days-now-and-im-stumped/

 

The sledgehammer approach to this could be to delete the skse cosave. Obviously that's going to throw out a lot more than just RM morphs though.

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