alternate start The Naked Truth - A naughty alternate start mod

[Faragan]

The Naked Truth - A naughty alternate start mod

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I wanted to give my Skyrim character a reason to walk around naked all the time. But unfortunately, I didn't find a mod that really satisfied me. So I wrote my own.

 

What does it do?

 

With this mod, your character gets cursed during a small quest and can't wear clothes that cover chest, genitals and butt at the end. Otherwise, the character suffers continuous damage.

 

What do I need?

 

The whole thing is made possible by [Advanced Nudity Detection] which enables the recognition of worn clothing and by [Alternate Perspective - Alternate Start] which, who would have guessed, allows you to start Skyrim directly with the quest. Both mods are therefore mandatory.

 

New with v1.2.0:

• You also need KID and SkyUI. 
• A new game. Updating from an old version is not supported! I know it sucks, but the internal workings changed too much.

 

What is supported?

 

All vanilla clothing or armor. To trigger the effect for modded armor / clothing, you have to add the appropriate keyword to the items with KID. There are also a bunch of premade KID files for a bunch of armors in one of the AND support threads, provided by the community. Please check the AND mod description to create your own KID files.

 

New with v1.2.0:

TNT will ignore items with the right keyword, a KID file for 3BA and Devious Devices is included. Don't give DD items AND keywords! It will trigger the damage effect from TNT.

 

The mod is created and tested with version 1.6.1170, but older Skyrim SE versions should also work. If your Skyrim version is below 1.6.1130 you will need BEES.

 

What will come?

(aka. planned features)

• ESL - done
• Devious Devices Support - done
• MCM - done
• minor improvements
• Support for "Alternate Start - Live Another Life"
• let me know if you have a good idea

 

What else?

 

It should also be said that English is not my native language. Please forgive me for mistakes and cringy dialog. I will gladly accept suggestions for improvement.

This also applies to the mod itself. In itself it is finished, but there is potential to add more effects or to extend the quest. So if you have any good ideas, please let me know.

If someone has their own ideas with the mod here, then they are welcome to use everything freely. Provided it remains free for every user. In the downloads are all the files I needed during the creation (TheNakedTruthDev.zip).

 

Changelog

 

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1.2.1

• Fixed ESL
• Removed 1.2.0 file and replaced it with 1.2.1 because 1.2.0 had formIds outside the esl range

1.2.0

• KID is now mandatory
  • added KID file to distribute ignore keyword to DD and 3BA physic items
  • mod now checks for ignore keyword and not for "SexLabNoStrip" keyword
• SkyUI is now mandatory
  • added MCM to disable effects from player
• Player is now able to quick travel and wait if the player does not get the health penalty from the curse
• New game is required due to internal changes

 

1.1.0

• ESLified the ESP
• Added support for Devious Devices
  • Any item with the "SexLabNoStrip" keyword will be ignored while wearing the ring (first state of the effect)
  • should also fix SMP in CBBE 3BA (tested) and similar (untested)
• Player now starts with appropriate clothing and tools for a miner

 

1.0.0

• initial release

 

Icon by photo3idea_studio and edited by me

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• Submitter
  Faragan
• Submitted
  11/09/2024
• Category
  Adult Mods
• Requirements
  Advanced Nudity Detection, Alternate Perspective - Alternate Start, KID, SkyUI, SKSE
• Regular Edition Compatible
  No

 

[ChandraArgentis]

Is it possible to make a variant of this for Live Another Life?  Also, I feel like Bikini Armor might should not qualify as 'clothing' for the purposes of this mod.

[bradster511]

16 hours ago, Faragan said:

If someone has their own ideas with the mod here, then they are welcome to use everything freely. Provided it remains free for every user. In the downloads are all the files I needed during the creation (TheNakedTruthDev.zip).

for the person above their might be a way to figure out how to do it yourself using his/their dev file that is included (YouTube how to make mods for skyrim se/ae and go from there)

[Faragan]

On 11/9/2024 at 5:55 PM, ChandraArgentis said:

Is it possible to make a variant of this for Live Another Life?  Also, I feel like Bikini Armor might should not qualify as 'clothing' for the purposes of this mod.

Live Another Life: I have to look into it. No promises. It looks more difficult than just a simple JSON, but doable.

Clothing detection is not part of this mod. It is completely managed by Advanced Nudity Detection (AND). AND does not decide in clothing or not clothing, it is deciding how much and what of the players body is covered by keywords on the armor and clothing. So if you wear a non-transparent bra, it should have the keyword for a bra (AND_Bra). If AND checks the keyword of that worn item, it now knows that the precious boobies are covered.

If you want that a clothing is not detected by AND you can give it the (AND_Ignore) keyword. It then does not count to the covering mechanic. You can give an armor this keyword by using KID. For more information please read the documentation of AND. Tewoba and Tawoba are using Baka Keywords, I think. I have not tested these mods with TNT yet.

 

[NymphoElf]

54 minutes ago, Faragan said:

If you want that a clothing is not detected by AND you can give it the (AND_Ignore) keyword.

 

Not quite. AND_Ignore simply prevents the mod from immediately scanning when an object with that keyword is Equipped or Unequipped. AND_Ingore won't prevent the mod from looking at it entirely. (I know that may be a little confusing but I wasn't sure what else to name the keyword, and it's a bit late to change it now.)

 

Any armor not in Slot 32 (Body) is effectively ignored by AND as long as none of AND's keywords exist on it. However, Slot 32 is always looked at in order to maintain compatibility with Vanilla armor.

 

If you want the mod to effectively "ignore" an armor in slot 32, use "AND_EffectivelyNaked" on Slot 32 instead. This simply allows that armor to let you be naked if no other keywords that should cover you exist.

Edited November 10, 2024 by NymphoElf

[shane400m]

some suggestions for the future: it unequips DD devices, as well as cbpc and smp physics on the body. not sure how to make those function, but id toggle switch my body physics ingame, and itd strip it with the same message as if id worn clothes. interesting concept though!

 

[NymphoElf]

On 11/9/2024 at 11:28 AM, Faragan said:

The mod was written for Skyrim AE 1.6.1170, I cannot say whether it also works for other versions. Most likely it depends on the requirements anyway.

 

Since you're not using DLL files in this mod, nor do either of your requirements specifically require AE, it should be fine to use on SE.

[Faragan]

19 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

 

Not quite. AND_Ignore simply prevents the mod from immediately scanning when an object with that keyword is Equipped or Unequipped. AND_Ingore won't prevent the mod from looking at it entirely. (I know that may be a little confusing but I wasn't sure what else to name the keyword, and it's a bit late to change it now.)

 

Any armor not in Slot 32 (Body) is effectively ignored by AND as long as none of AND's keywords exist on it. However, Slot 32 is always looked at in order to maintain compatibility with Vanilla armor.

 

If you want the mod to effectively "ignore" an armor in slot 32, use "AND_EffectivelyNaked" on Slot 32 instead. This simply allows that armor to let you be naked if no other keywords that should cover you exist.

 

10 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

 

Since you're not using DLL files in this mod, nor do either of your requirements specifically require AE, it should be fine to use on SE.

 

Hi, thanks for your answer, correction and clarification. It is much appreciated. I actually worked on this mod before, but gave up as it was getting a bit too much for me. And then a week later [AND] was released. So thanks for that ❤️

 

10 hours ago, shane400m said:

some suggestions for the future: it unequips DD devices, as well as cbpc and smp physics on the body. not sure how to make those function, but id toggle switch my body physics ingame, and itd strip it with the same message as if id worn clothes. interesting concept though!

 

 

Ugh, of course I forgot the physics mods again (┛ಠ_ಠ)┛彡┻━┻. Gave me a massive headache in my first try too, because I did not know these mods were equipping something. But support will come, the same for DD. I want to play with both of them in my own mod list too. Thanks for the feedback.

[danielbower]

17 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

 

Since you're not using DLL files in this mod, nor do either of your requirements specifically require AE, it should be fine to use on SE.

I've downloaded for SE and it doesn't appear in the Alternative Perspective area. I have the requirements and the mod should be working. 

[NymphoElf]

5 hours ago, danielbower said:

I've downloaded for SE and it doesn't appear in the Alternative Perspective area. I have the requirements and the mod should be working. 

 

I'm not the author, nor do I have experience with Alternate Perspective. However, it seems the JSON has an improper Quest ID. There's no "0x" in the ID field, so perhaps that's the reason it's not there?

 

The mod is not marked as light, and doesn't appear to be using Form IDs in the AE-exclusive ID range (000-7FF) based on the supposed Quest ID. If it is, then you will need BEES (Backported Extended ESL Support). That's all I know.

 

Please discuss your issue with the author.

[Faragan]

9 hours ago, danielbower said:

I've downloaded for SE and it doesn't appear in the Alternative Perspective area. I have the requirements and the mod should be working. 

 

The "0x" can be skipped in the JSON file. The mod should appear in the menu after talking to the little dragon. If the quest id is false, then it should still appear in the menu, but throw an error message if selected.

1. Please start Skyrim without loading a save.

2. open the console and type >help tntr_startquest<. It should print out a line similar to:
QUST: TNTR_StartQuest (XYABCDEF) 'Trapped in Stone'
(XYABCDEF is the quest id)
If it does not show up, then the mod is not loaded.

[NittytheKitty]

Extremely neat. Is there a way to dispel the curse at some point too?

[thombur]

after I gain the curse I can no longer wait, sleep, or fast travel.  Fast traveling tells me that I'm taking damage so it won't let me do it.  I tested and I could fast travel right up until talking with the mage and gaining the curse, after that I"m can't.  Am I missing something?

[Faragan]

18 hours ago, NittytheKitty said:

Extremely neat. Is there a way to dispel the curse at some point too?

Currently working on an MCM with this option.
 

13 hours ago, thombur said:

after I gain the curse I can no longer wait, sleep, or fast travel.  Fast traveling tells me that I'm taking damage so it won't let me do it.  I tested and I could fast travel right up until talking with the mage and gaining the curse, after that I"m can't.  Am I missing something?

Is fixed with next version. Will update soon, I hope.

[Faragan]

v1.2.0 is out now. You can now disable the effects in the new MCM. Waiting and quick travel should also be fixed now. Due to the changes in scripts and the new MCM, I think it is better to start a new game.

[GoNutsDonuts]

Do you guys know any other good exhibitionism mods? things like perk changes and quests involving it?

[NittytheKitty]

On 11/12/2024 at 4:36 AM, Faragan said:

 

The "0x" can be skipped in the JSON file. The mod should appear in the menu after talking to the little dragon. If the quest id is false, then it should still appear in the menu, but throw an error message if selected.

1. Please start Skyrim without loading a save.

2. open the console and type >help tntr_startquest<. It should print out a line similar to:
QUST: TNTR_StartQuest (XYABCDEF) 'Trapped in Stone'
(XYABCDEF is the quest id)
If it does not show up, then the mod is not loaded.

I am also having this issue: it's working correctly, and the MCM toggle is fine, but it does not appear on the messenger.

[Faragan]

10 hours ago, GoNutsDonuts said:

Do you guys know any other good exhibitionism mods? things like perk changes and quests involving it?

 I used https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/52616 in my last playthrough. It adds extra perks for unarmored combat. I will also take a look at Sexlab Sexual Fame Reloaded and SLSF Fame Comments

[Faragan]

6 hours ago, NittytheKitty said:

I am also having this issue: it's working correctly, and the MCM toggle is fine, but it does not appear on the messenger.

 

I think you are using an old version of alternate perspective before the 4.0 update. Please update to the newest 4.0.2 update if possible. I won't support the 3.1.1 version or older, simply because there is no documentation how to create an addon for these versions.

The new menu since version 4 should look like that:
 

Spoiler

Pink: my mod, white an addon I used for testing, blue and red are the standard options

If you can't update to the new version, you should be able to start the TNT quest line without the use of the Alternate Perspective menu. Don't talk to the Dragon, open the console and type: "setstage <quest id> <stage value>" for you it should be "setstage FE3ED075 0"

[NittytheKitty]

On 11/15/2024 at 2:38 AM, Faragan said:

I think you are using an old version of alternate perspective before the 4.0 update. Please update to the newest 4.0.2 update if possible. I won't support the 3.1.1 version or older, simply because there is no documentation how to create an addon for these versions.

The new menu since version 4 should look like that:
 

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Pink: my mod, white an addon I used for testing, blue and red are the standard options

If you can't update to the new version, you should be able to start the TNT quest line without the use of the Alternate Perspective menu. Don't talk to the Dragon, open the console and type: "setstage <quest id> <stage value>" for you it should be "setstage FE3ED075 0"

 

That was the issue, yep! I updated to 4.0.3 and now the menu worked fine! As did the quest! However, I did have an issue where the game adding and removing the clothing curse while talking to the khajiit actually just killed me at first, and I had to click through the dialogue and be out of talking with him for it to dispel the initial application.

 

I would very much like to see an expensive late-game way to fix the curse, if you find the desire to work on the quest more! This is very good and you did a great job. Thank you!

[Faragan]

@NittytheKitty What do you mean with an "expensive late-game way"? I'm currently reworking the mod. Extending the quest line to (at the moment) 3 endings, but is not late game, it is an alternate start mod after all. My plan was not to slay Alduin, to get rid of the curse, but if you have some good ideas for plothooks, tell me :3
 

Spoiler

Ending 1 and 2 are nearly the same quest line, but you can choose at the end to dispel the curse (get rid of any effect) or change it to a blessing (you still have to be naked for it). Ending 3 is the shorter questline, in which you trade one curse for an other one. This could have the potential to get resolved in late game. 

If I'm done, I also plan on adding DD integration (especially for ending 3) and maybe SexLab.

Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it ❤️

[NittytheKitty]

@Faragan

 

I was turning around the idea in my head to have an enchantment you could apply to an armor piece so it didn't interact with AND, maybe!

 

I did start having another issue too: I pretty regularly start having the curse added mid-conversation with NPCs. I'm not seeing anything in AND going off when I back out of conversation, so I'm not sure why it would be changing dynamically - I thought it might be SkyIdles, but I have that disabled for the player.

[BattDaPsycho]

Feel like this was made to complement Dibella's Blessing

Love the concept

[phi1618]

I love this concept as well, having recently stumbled onto "Vow of Nudity" in the Sexy Adventures mod, but it apparently has some stability issues and doesn't play nicely with AND. Thank you for creating this game option!

 

I'm curious why this requires it's own Alternative Perspective scenario however. In my current playthrough, the main character was "cursed" a decade before the game begins. Wouldn't it be possible to have a version where the curse is initiated as part whatever backstory the player has created for the character, before the game actually starts? That way the player could use *any* Alternate Perspective start with this play mode.

 

A quest to cure the curse would be interesting though. It makes more sense to me than a quest to acquire the curse at least.

 

As far as mods to use with this, if you make your female character bald as part of the curse, you can use Let Your Hair Down for additional buffs/debuffs associated with wearing a wig or not (not really created for that situation, but sort of works).

[Faragan]

Quick update: I started working on the quest rework, based on all your feedback.

But it will take a while, I currently have not much time (work, renovating, the new Warhammer 40k hobby I started). My personal goal is to release it before Nolvus v6 is released, but no promises.
 

On 11/22/2024 at 3:45 PM, NittytheKitty said:

@Faragan

 

I was turning around the idea in my head to have an enchantment you could apply to an armor piece so it didn't interact with AND, maybe!

 

I did start having another issue too: I pretty regularly start having the curse added mid-conversation with NPCs. I'm not seeing anything in AND going off when I back out of conversation, so I'm not sure why it would be changing dynamically - I thought it might be SkyIdles, but I have that disabled for the player.

Interesting idea, but I don't know If I can implement this. I read that papyrus extender has some function that could add keywords to references, but I have to try it first.
Can you check with More Informative Console if your equipment is changing? I don't have this issue on my modlist.
 

On 11/22/2024 at 4:04 PM, BattDaPsycho said:

Feel like this was made to complement Dibella's Blessing

Love the concept

Thank you :). Yes, this mod was one of the inspirations for TNT. I just wanted something more story driven.
 

On 11/22/2024 at 8:21 PM, phi1618 said:

I love this concept as well, having recently stumbled onto "Vow of Nudity" in the Sexy Adventures mod, but it apparently has some stability issues and doesn't play nicely with AND. Thank you for creating this game option!

 

I'm curious why this requires it's own Alternative Perspective scenario however. In my current playthrough, the main character was "cursed" a decade before the game begins. Wouldn't it be possible to have a version where the curse is initiated as part whatever backstory the player has created for the character, before the game actually starts? That way the player could use *any* Alternate Perspective start with this play mode.

 

A quest to cure the curse would be interesting though. It makes more sense to me than a quest to acquire the curse at least.

 

As far as mods to use with this, if you make your female character bald as part of the curse, you can use Let Your Hair Down for additional buffs/debuffs associated with wearing a wig or not (not really created for that situation, but sort of works).

Thanks for the feedback and impressions. I'm currently starting with a version not dependent on any alternate start mod. It is easier to add compatibility and a short prologue quest later, than to remove it from the quest line at the end (I still use Alternate Perspective for testing). I want to add compatibility patches for AS-LaL and Alternate Perspective, but TNT should also work with the vanilla start.

I plan to add at least one possibility to get rid of the curse. If you start directly with the curse applied or with the prologue quest is up to you.
 

As for compatibility with other mods, I'll leave it at body mods (like 3BA), DD, and later Sexlab for now. That's enough tasks for the start.