Why are Daggers worth using?

[FauxFurry]

11 hours ago, Tlam99 said:

There are hints.

 

Missing opening phrase, like hi, is one of those.

The question itself, give me reasons for the use, sounds pretty strange.

No thanks whatever, just a body.

But thats not the reason for my comparsion.

 

As said, I compared, has nothing to do with sarcastic.

If you feel comparing the shift of the community  here to other sites is sarcastic, your business.

For myself, I become less and less part of this shifted community here anyway. 

 

 

 

I tend to eschew greeting phrases myself as I prefer to remain not only informal but slightly detached from the post so it can be answered for the sake of general usage rather than for the sake of a original poster alone as one day said original poster will be gone and nothing but their data will remain. The answer to the post will be of some utility to still present forum goers regardless of the initial poster's absence. 

 

Perhaps those such as myself who have been online for longer than a few of the people visiting this site have been alive have contributed more than out fair share of 'quirks' that these machines display at times? However, I do prefer to inform someone if they have been of assistance and give thanks whenever possible as not doing as much is just thoughtlessly rude so that one can not be blamed on me.

[belegost]

1 hour ago, BAB PEEG said:

So how about those daggers yea?

Daggers? Pfft...

Stealth archer ftw!

[RedHeadAngel]

They're good for backups, I suppose.

[libertyordeath]

On 8/31/2024 at 7:57 AM, Miauzi said:

 

Because they are nothing else... after all, this is a "medieval" game

 

A dagger is not a knife (messer).

 

Knifes are primarily designed for cutting and are moderately good at thrusting.

 

Daggers are designed for thrusting only (in some special cases also for parrying). They suck at cutting and therefore have no "tool" use, unless you want to make icecubes, since a dagger is basically a medieval icepick designed for combat.

 

Frankly, i doubt most people even carried daggers in medieval europe. Joe average more likely carried a knife, since those actually do have many other uses than just combat.

 

Now if we're talking soldiers, a dagger as a sidearm is more plausible. Basically just like nowadays they carry handguns in addition to a "primary weapon". But well, that's soldiers, not joe average.

 

EDIT: In case people unfamiliar with medieval weapons wonder, why someone would design a weapon that's only good at thrusting/piercing, when something like a knife can do both to some degree: Flexible armor like chainmail, cloth (gambeson), or hardened leather. Unlike what what most people would expect, soft/flexible armor is actually very resistant against cuts. Piercing thrusts however go through it like butter, so a weapon designed primarily for thrusts (daggers) is more desireable against armor, than a weapon designed for cuts. Why did swords exist then? Answer: They stopped existing when armor became popular and covered the whole body. At that point they gradually turned into rapiers - thrust-optimized weapons. Also a dagger is a very up-close weapon: When you're practically hugging your opponent, stabbing power is more useful than slashing.

 

TLDR: Knives = Better general purpose tool, can double as a weapon in a pinch. Dagger = Better weapon, almost useless as a tool.

Edited September 1, 2024 by libertyordeath

[belegost]

On 9/1/2024 at 6:05 AM, libertyordeath said:

Basically just like nowadays they carry handguns in addition to a "primary weapon

Your average trooper does not carry a handgun. They have their rifles and that's it. A handgun in your general infantry unit is an officer-exclusive weapon and a higher-ranking at that. Handguns can be carried by other branches, eg. drivers, artillery, APC and tank crews etc. for self-defense purposes. So anywhere where a possession of a bulky rifle inside a limited vehicle space would be a hindrance. And even in those cases they get stuff like machine pistols.

A soldier in a frontline combat unit is not equipped with any side arm bar a combat knife which is mostly used as a tool. And if it ever comes to hand to hand fight a shovel is actually much better for that purpose than a glorified pointy stick.

Edited September 9, 2024 by belegost