FantasyFunk Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 Firstly I'd like to say that LAPF is a great improvement over the original LPK. I've been using it in a stable game with no problems for quite some time now. My problem came up after installing BBB: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/35551//? http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/28235//? First I made the mistake of installing these new BBB animations over LAPF, and got stretched penis bug (although all animations during sex played correctly including BBB). After successfully fixing the stretching issue (uninstalled LAPF, installed BBB again, installed LAPF over it) the animations still play correctly, but now the sex partner's animations 'flicker'. In other words, they switch into a messed up position for a split moment; this happens every couple seconds as animations are playing. It's mainly a 'twitchy' type of behavior. Again, this does not happen with the player character's body, only the partner's. -running latest version of OBSE (20+) and BOSS -ran bsa redirection -rebuilt bashed patch -have not added any new mods other than the BBB -correct load order (I hope) load order: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.34] 02 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.35Beta] 03 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.8b1] 04 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm [Version 0.9.9MB8b1] 05 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.2.5] 06 SettlementsOfCyrodiil.esm [Version 1.2] 07 Lovers with PK.esm 08 Lamps of Oblivion Master.esm 09 CM Partners.esm 0A Toaster Says Share v3.esm 0B HorseCombatMaster.esm 0C Knights - Revelation.esm 0D HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp 0E Maigrets Gnoll Archer.esp 0F Colourwheels Sexy Female NPCs.esp 10 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.3] 11 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 12 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 13 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 14 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.2] 15 Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0] 16 All Natural.esp [Version 1.34] 17 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.34] ++ All Natural - MMM Patch.esp [Version 1.3] 18 Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1] 19 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp 1A All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.34] 1B WindowLightingSystem.esp 1C ChaseCameraMod.esp 1D Lamps of Oblivion.esp 1E Camping.esp 1F Crowded Cities 15.esp 20 Crowded Roads.esp [Version 2.0] 21 Streamline 3.1.esp 22 DLCHorseArmor.esp 23 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8] 24 DLCOrrery.esp 25 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 26 DLCVileLair.esp 27 P1DseeYouSleep.esp 28 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 29 P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp 2A DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 2B DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] 2C DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] ** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp 2D Alir'sArmor.esp 2E AoC Armoury of Conan.esp [Version 1.3] 2F Arcelas Black Hand Armor.esp 30 Ancient Dwarven Armour.esp 31 Andragorn_Weapons_Armors.esp 32 Armored Masks.esp 33 ArmamentariumArmor.esp 34 BaronArmor.esp 35 Blackwire.esp ++ BladeofWoeReplacer9Tongues.esp 36 Black Plate Armor.esp 37 Dread Knight Armor.esp 38 EY_Vampirehunter.esp 39 GoldenShadowArmor.esp 3A HGECKoganeHuntressOutfit.esp 3B Knight of Skeleton.esp 3C Lockbreaker.esp 3D M&BShields.esp 3E Midlander.esp 3F Morrigan Armor Set v1_0.esp 40 Model Man Ninja Breaker.esp 41 Nitiren's Genji Armor2.esp 42 Obsidian Axe.esp 43 pale_rider's Armory of the Berserker.esp 44 RSArmor.esp 45 Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp 46 Shdw_weapon pack02.esp 47 Slaveknight armor.esp 48 tda_Armoury.esp 49 TTB.esp 4A Tyrael Armor.esp 4B Underworld Armor.esp 4C Vvardenfell_Imports.esp 4D Western Armor.esp 4E Westwind_Rogue_HGEC.esp 4F Xifr's Seperated Dark Brotherhood Armour.esp 50 CB Rogue Armor.esp 51 Daedric Lord Armor.esp 52 Elven Armours.esp 53 HGEC Sexy Rogue.esp 54 HTBShopInABottle.esp 55 R18PN - Fiona Armor.esp 56 UFF RM Ranger Armor.esp 57 DLCThievesDen.esp 58 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11] 59 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.11] 5A Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.35Beta] 5B Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.8b1] 5C Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.8b1] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.8b1] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp [Version 3.8b1] ++ Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - NoReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9MB7b] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Blood.esp [Version 3.8b1] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.8b1] 5D Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.8b1] 5E Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.8b1] 5F Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.8b1] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp [Version 3.7b7] 60 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.8b1] 61 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.8b1] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.8b1] 62 Plate Armor Plus - OOO_FCOM_version.esp 63 SOC-RegionalFarms.esp 64 Vaernlor Manor.esp ++ SYS Patch-Vaernlor Manor.esp 65 Armoured Arms Redone.esp 66 Barbada_Island.esp 67 Malus-Pumila Mansion.esp 68 Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp 69 MTCExpandedVillages.esp 6A Retbury Village.esp [Version 1.1] ** Retbury Village - AN Patch.esp [Version 1.1] 6B TheForgottenShields.esp 6C Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp 6D DLCFrostcrag.esp 6E DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8] 6F Knights.esp 70 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.3] 71 Knights - Revelation.esp ** EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp ++ Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1] ++ Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Knights of Nine.esp 72 AFK_Weye.esp [Version 2.32.Non-COBL] 73 AFKWeye_MTC_RRLRumarePatch.esp [Version 2.2] 74 Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp ++ SYS patch- Shadowcrest Vineyard.esp 75 ElsweyrAnequina.esp ++ SYS Patch-Elsweyr Anequina.esp 76 Roads of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.0] 77 ROC+Shadowcrest Vineyard Patch.esp [Version 1.0] 78 ACharmingTown.esp [Version 1.8] 79 English Billsburg v1.5.esp 7A Faregyl.esp [Version 2.0.11] 7B Faregyl+Anequina Patch.esp [Version 2.0] 7C MTCVillages-FaregylPatch.esp 7D Feldscar.esp [Version 1.0.13] 7E Gottshaw Village.esp [Version 1.0.1] 7F Lake Canulus Village.esp 80 Molapi.esp [Version 1.0.1] 81 Pinevale.esp 82 PTMudwater.esp 83 Reedstand.esp [Version 1.0.4] 84 ShezriesTownsMaster.esp ++ SYS Patch-Shezrie's Towns.esp 85 MTCExpandedVillages-ShezriesTowns Patch.esp [Version 1.1] 86 Urasek.esp [Version 1.0.4] 87 Vergayun.esp [Version 2.0.2] 88 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] 89 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] 8A xulTheHeath.esp 8B XulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1] 8C xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] 8D Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp 8E xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2] 8F Billsburg-ColovianHighlands patch.esp 90 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.3] 91 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5] 92 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.4] 93 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.2] 94 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4] 95 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] 96 ROC+Ancient Redwoods.esp [Version 1.0] 97 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] 98 Ravenview-Cloudtop-Patch.esp [Version 2.0] 99 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4] 9A xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] 9B Verwen Brewery UL_AY_AC Compatable.esp [Version wen.] 9C AFK_Weye Arrius_Creek Patch.esp 9D xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp [Version 1.3.3] 9E xulPantherRiver.esp 9F xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] A0 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1] A1 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.8] A2 RegionReviveLakeRumare-ImperialIsle patch.esp [Version 1.3.4] A3 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0] A4 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] A5 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] A6 Lakewood+AspenWood Patch.esp [Version 3.0] A7 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2] A8 ROC+UL Skingrad Outskirts Patch.esp A9 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.5] AA Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp [Version 1.0.2] AB OOO-Snowdale patch.esp [Version 1.1] AC MTCExpandedVillages-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp [Version 1.1] AD xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12] AE OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp [Version 1.2] AF xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.3] B0 xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.1] B1 OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp [Version 1.0] B2 xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.0] B3 ROC+UL-II Patch.esp [Version 1.0] B4 A Imperial Outpost - Fort Novi Sad.esp B5 BrinaCrossVillage.esp [Version 1.0.3] B6 Frostcrag Village.esp [Version 1.0.7] B7 Sutch Village.esp [Version 1.0.3] B8 LostCoast + SutchVillage Patch.esp [Version 1.0] B9 ROC+RR Patch.esp [Version 1.0] BA LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp BB LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp BC LoversBed.esp BD Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v4a] BE LoversMB2.esp BF DenockArrowToo.esp C0 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp C1 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp C2 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp C3 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp C4 ElaborateEyes.esp C5 CM Partners.esp C6 TSS Custom Companion Template.esp C7 Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp C8 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp C9 CM Partners NPC.esp CA CM Partners More NPCs.esp CB CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp CC CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp CD Tamara.esp CE Maigrets Battle Dogs - Rocky and Spike.esp ++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp CF Better Cities Full.esp [Version 5.2.5] D0 Better Cities - All Natural.esp [Version 4.9.5] D1 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 5.1.2] D2 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 5.1.0] D3 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 5.0.0] D4 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 5.1.0] D5 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 4.8.1] D6 Better Cities - Vvardenfell Imports.esp [Version 4.7.0] D7 RegionalFarms-BCPatch.esp ** ROC Standard Road Record.esp ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.34] ++ OrcHeadReplacer.esp D8 Arshes Nei Bikini Armor.esp D9 Bonemold Armor Full.esp DA TheOrdinatorsArmor.esp DB Ancient Daedric Weapons and Armour.esp DC WickmereFarm.esp DD Helseth-Armor_DV.esp DE WhiteRoseFarm.esp DF KOTNR-WhiteRosePatch.esp E0 Ancient Orcish Armor.esp E1 Underworld Armor for NPCs.esp E2 BlackPearlShield.esp E3 azsSpartacusArmor.esp E4 AST_SI_ArcherAmber.esp E5 Skeletoncape.esp E6 S14 Tarkaran Armor.esp E7 Billsburg-CloudtopMountains patch3.esp E8 Billsburg-UniqueLandscapes patch3.esp E9 Hikarian Armor.esp EA AMAZONZWEI.esp EB AEU Vampire Ranger.esp EC ISSorrowKatana.esp ED RANs LQH-090419.esp EE MTCEV-RoC Patch.esp EF Colourwheels Sexy Dance Club.esp F0 Bashed Patch, 0.esp F1 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.2.4] F2 Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp [Version 5.2.1] F3 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp F4 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp F5 Immersive Weapons.esp F6 AveED.esp F7 Falling Leaves.esp [Version 1.0] F8 Falling Leaves - UL LushWoodlands Patch.esp [Version 1.0] F9 Elz - Realistic Gravity.esp Any advice to help me resolve this problem is much appreciated. Thank you.
gregathit Posted December 3, 2013 Posted December 3, 2013 Move these two to the VERY bottom of your load order: F3 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp F4 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Also make sure when you built your bashed patch that you FIRST disabled ALL your lovers esm and esp files. Then rebuild your bashed patch. Failing to do so can pull in some of the scripts and break them. You also need to get rid of these: C6 TSS Custom Companion Template.esp C7 Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp The TSS esp files are a train wreck. You can keep the esm if you like as it won't hurt anything and will allow you to still access NPC's inventories. Use MCS (mad companionship spells) instead for recruiting companions. As to the two mods in question, the NoMaaM is fine PROVIDED you install growlf universal skeleton and the HGEC body that I give a link for in the instructions of the LAPF. The HGEC you are trying to use requires its own custom skeleton and that just fucks everything up. Switch to the HGEC body I give the link for and you'll be off and running.
FantasyFunk Posted December 3, 2013 Author Posted December 3, 2013 Thanks for the tips and response. What I've done, Uninstalled: -robert's male (the hgec from lapf rm comes with it's own face textures, but I prefer robert's for both sex) - 'old' hgec -the two tss .esp's -nomaam -a BAIN file not listed which modify's Mur zik sexy walk to have bbb -lapf+supplemental Installed (in order): -growlf's universal skeleton v1.81 ('total controllable' version) -'new' hgec (no animations) -robert's male (no animations) *rebuilt bashed patch* -lapf+supplemental *modified load order as directed* *performed bsa redirection* (purposely left out nomaam and that outside BAIN file to be safe) The flicker problem persists, now along with stretched penis bug again. Where did I go wrong? And I do not have pluggy.. should I? ..I'm satisfied with this other version of HGEC and the textures are working as desired btw. This is unrelated, but with deadlyreflex my charcters fall(ragdoll) when out of stamina. Can LAPF be modified so that sex doesn't use stamina at all?
fejeena Posted December 3, 2013 Posted December 3, 2013 The flicker Problem i don't know, but the stretching penis. You have installed a Cloth, armor or Body mod after LAPF, and you have not unpacked that Mod before Installation in an empty Folder and checked what's inside: a Skeleton you don't need, so you've overwritten your LAPF Skeleton. NEVER install a Mod without checking what's inside. Or your bsa redirection was wrong, activate "archive invalidate" in the modmanager http://www.loverslab.com/topic/15185-xeo-sp/?view=findpost&p=496940
FantasyFunk Posted December 3, 2013 Author Posted December 3, 2013 I've found something interesting about my flicker issue. I was testing things again and found that dismissing my follower(had one following me in the save I'm using)..THEN recruiting them again(or not) sex finally plays smoothly again.. no more flicker! Though I do still have the stretching to fix now... fejeena, I'm certain that I've installed LAPF dead last. And I'm already using obmm's 'BSA redirection' under utilities. Maybe it's something in my bashed patch? I'll do it again to make sure. Thank you.
fejeena Posted December 3, 2013 Posted December 3, 2013 Oh yes the bashed patch, check the Cloth, armor or Body mods you have in the patch and detete all Skeletons you find.
FantasyFunk Posted December 4, 2013 Author Posted December 4, 2013 Did a simple reinstall of LAPF and double checked my bashed patch. I didn't find any unwanted skeletons. All animations are clean and stretching is gone. No more issues with LAPF. Thanks a lot for the help you two! *edit Would this be safe to use with LAPF? http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/24078/? The HGEC body mod recommended in the instructions is working fine, but I like the extra armor and clothing replacers that come with this one.
gregathit Posted December 4, 2013 Posted December 4, 2013 Should be safe to use as it does not appear to have a skeleton included in it. I would recommend you make a backup prior to installing anything else........just in case.
fejeena Posted December 4, 2013 Posted December 4, 2013 All armor and clothes replacers are fine, but check if a Skeleton is inside. The EVE HGEC Eyecandy Variants Expansion is not BBB ( so it should be without a Skeleton). Here is the BBB replacer for EVE http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/34324/ and C Cup http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/43106 (oe here if you use only the armor/clothes meshes and textures and delete all other stuff. http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/35906/ ) And here a VerySkimpyStockClothingArmorHGEC and BBB HGEC http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/16750/ Not the D Cup Version ( it is the old moving breast System) take the E Cup Version in Optional files.
FantasyFunk Posted December 4, 2013 Author Posted December 4, 2013 Awesome, thanks. I had not known about that BBB for EVE file. I'll pass on the super skimpy replacers though.. I've got enough sexiness for the women, I don't need to be seeing guards in booty shorts and beggers in thongs.
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