cdt Frostbite Spiders Somtimes Causes CTD

[Anon079]

Hi!. Thanks beforehand for passing by and reading this. If you have no possible solutions for this don't feel bad since once I have an CTD I just diable them, but could be great to just don't have to do that anymore lol. I want to let you all know English isn't my first language, as you can tell, and I'm still learning it.



The weird part, is that not always happens. I've been able to trigger animations with them, and I saw them triggering animations with other NPCs. But most of the times I encounter one, I have seconds left to have an CTD. This last time I had two CTD, before being able to killing this thing and nothing happend after that. It's just weird and anoying.

A bad load order maybe?. I'm learning about modding.  

Crash Log: https://pastebin.com/4tGurqkr

 

Please, don't cringe to my load order, I'm really just learning and any advice is welcome!

Load Order: 
 

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LOOT: 
 

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Edited July 4, 2024 by Anon079
Some minor changes

[traison]

Your crash came indirectly from SKEE (RaceMenu) and RSP+48 may contain something relevant. Get a crash logger that prints class contents if you want more.

 

Edit: RSP+58 would be important as well, just in case you're wrong about the spiders being the isssue.

Edited July 4, 2024 by traison

[Anon079]

7 hours ago, traison said:

Your crash came indirectly from SKEE (RaceMenu) and RSP+48 may contain something relevant. Get a crash logger that prints class contents if you want more.

 

Edit: RSP+58 would be important as well, just in case you're wrong about the spiders being the isssue.

 

Thank for reaching me. I saw you trying to help others before, I don't think you understand how helpfull you are. For people like myself the contents of the logs are just gibberish. 

 

I already have that one, I just didn't know where the crashlog where located. I'm really sorry. 
I think one of this two. 

 

crash-2024-07-04-05-15-36.log 

Edited July 4, 2024 by Anon079
got rid of one of the .txt archive since I read it and wasn't a Crash Log itself.

[Anon079]

Last night I wasn't able to engage combat with an spider. I found two on my road to Riften, I killed the first. Then few secons later I found the second one, and the three times I tried to kill this think, I got an CTD. I saw it disappear before the CTD.


May I ask what is "RSP+58"?. It has something to do with my PC?. Thanks for everything.

New Report: I tried again, after getting more RAM, I have 16GB now. I had no issue. The spider disappeared again and then appeared but not CTD.
I'm not sure if it was a coincidence tho. I'll try encounter more spiders.

Edited July 4, 2024 by Anon079
added the question and report

[traison]

43 minutes ago, Anon079 said:

May I ask what is "RSP+58"?

 

RSP is a CPU register, otherwise known as the Stack Pointer. The stack is a memory area for holding stuff like return pointers, function arguments (depending on the calling convention) and stack-allocated variables.

 

43 minutes ago, Anon079 said:

I tried again, after getting more RAM, I have 16GB now. I had no issue. The spider disappeared again and then appeared but not CTD.

 

Since both crash logs occured in the same location (SkyrimSE.exe+0217E1F) I very much doubt you incrasing your RAM had any effect on the issue. RAM related issues (be it lack of, broken or misconfigured RAM) will generally show up as far more random issues - a crash here, a crash there, every application crashing occasionally, slow performance, data corruption etc. RAM issues will generally look like your computer was posessed by a ghost would be one way to put it.

 

As for the crash log...

 

It crashed because it tried to dereference R12, which at the time of the crash was 0x0. Meaning there's a null pointer somewhere. The issue seems to be coming from ref id 0xFF001438 "Frostbite Spider". A BSTriShape named "dick" and more specifically its associated "NPC Genitals01 [Gen01]" NiNode.

 

There's been a crash like this not too long ago here on LL, but considering we're talking about spider batons here I'd imagine the only viable options are either ABC or MNC. Start with those.

Edited July 4, 2024 by traison

[Anon079]

On 7/4/2024 at 12:40 PM, traison said:

It crashed because it tried to dereference R12, which at the time of the crash was 0x0. Meaning there's a null pointer somewhere. The issue seems to be coming from ref id 0xFF001438 "Frostbite Spider". A BSTriShape named "dick" and more specifically its associated "NPC Genitals01 [Gen01]" NiNode.

 

There's been a crash like this not too long ago here on LL, but considering we're talking about spider batons here I'd imagine the only viable options are either ABC or MNC. Start with those.

I'm sorry I didn't aswerd you before, but I forgot. I'm really thankfull with your help. I feel bad acepting it with no rewards. Unless I can give you some kind of tip?. 
Awesome work mate!
 

If someone it's having any issue like this, I just disabled the ABC Mod from Creature Framework. I think it must be a load order problem, since I suck at this. I'll try to re-enable ABC again with my new load order and I'll see what happens.

Edit: I also noticed a similar issue with a Bear. He disappeared but no CTD this time, like the Spiders. That's why I tried a new load order

Edited July 6, 2024 by Anon079
quoted on post

[Dhe128]

I was having this problem, same exact location: SkyrimSE.exe+0217E1F

 

I was running both Animal SOS and ABC, ABC lower in the order. I read in a couple places on reddit that Animal SOS was outdated and possibly unstable so I disabled it. No more crashes. ABC works fine so far.

[Grey Cloud]

17 hours ago, Dhe128 said:

I was running both Animal SOS and ABC,

Rarely a good idea to use two mods which do more or less the same thing.

 

On 7/6/2024 at 9:04 AM, Anon079 said:

If someone it's having any issue like this, I just disabled the ABC Mod from Creature Framework.

I can't see ABC in your modlist.

 

Do yourself a favour and learn how to use your mod manager.

Read mod descriptions.

MNC should overwrite ABC.

[zakerylol]

On 7/6/2024 at 3:04 AM, Anon079 said:

I'm sorry I didn't aswerd you before, but I forgot. I'm really thankfull with your help. I feel bad acepting it with no rewards. Unless I can give you some kind of tip?. 
Awesome work mate!
 

If someone it's having any issue like this, I just disabled the ABC Mod from Creature Framework. I think it must be a load order problem, since I suck at this. I'll try to re-enable ABC again with my new load order and I'll see what happens.

Edit: I also noticed a similar issue with a Bear. He disappeared but no CTD this time, like the Spiders. That's why I tried a new load order

ok this was a godsend for me 

what I did was 

1. go into creature framework in MCM in the "creatures" tab

2. find every frostbite spider and change it to more nasty creatures (if it doesn't have mnc disable it)

also be sure to go through every page there's a next page button in the top right

welp there's my good karma for today time to join the dark brotherhood