CBBE 3BA Breast Collisions Stopped Working

[Guest]

I don't know what happened, but for some reason, my character's breast collisions aren't working anymore. At first, her right breast was glitching out, so I had to reinstall CBPC, which fixed that, but now breast collisions aren't working. I have an idle animation mod where my character will cross her arms, but her arms don't effect her breasts. Here's a video to show what I mean.

 

 

Also, breast physics has stopped working on the outfit she was wearing. I haven't tested any others, but I can confirm that one. It was Bladedancer's Edge (CBBE - 3BA - BHUNP), if that matters. I've reinstalled 3BA, CBPC, and CBPC 3-Bone Breast Body Breast-Butt Bounce Configs for 3BA-BHUNP-COCO, but it hasn't fixed the issue. The physics themselves still work, but the collisions don't.

Edited June 10, 2024 by CrowOfItachi

[Visdagon]

Maybe this conversation could help you tinker

 

[Guest]

9 hours ago, Visdagon said:

Maybe this conversation could help you tinker

 

So, the only solution that works for me is using showracemenu in the console. Unfortunately, I have to do this every time I go into the game. Having said that, while it's annoying, it does work and doesn't seem to cause any problems. At least, not right now. I looked for over 20 minutes to find another thread to solve this issue, but I couldn't find one, so I appreciate you showing me that one.

[Visdagon]

I dont know these days if physics are hitting some game engine ceiling or if they are limited by a PC capability.

Maybe check Faster HDT install, maybe need the AVX2 I think it is, 2nd to last option. (What that where I saw that?)

Perhaps during install of I think it was 3BA where you have the option to use SMP for these and CPB for those, have CPB handle some more.

Im only guessing, it seems that its working and were talking stability, in which its a case by case on what the system can do. And you have to tune it to your system/setup

 

Could try SMP on just boobs and CPB handle the rest of body stuff like butt, calves, ect. After all, SMP is Also gonna be on hair and weapons/clothing, and I dont think theres an option to switch that. Besides, how much a diff can you tell from smp/cbp on small things like calves and belly.

 

Unless your makin skyrim corn vids or something, then I dont dunno, do what ya gotta.

Edited June 10, 2024 by Visdagon

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Visdagon said:

I dont know these days if physics are hitting some game engine ceiling or if they are limited by a PC capability.

Maybe check Faster HDT install, maybe need the AVX2 I think it is, 2nd to last option. (What that where I saw that?)

Perhaps during install of I think it was 3BA where you have the option to use SMP for these and CPB for those, have CPB handle some more.

Im only guessing, it seems that its working and were talking stability, in which its a case by case on what the system can do. And you have to tune it to your system/setup

 

Could try SMP on just boobs and CPB handle the rest of body stuff like butt, calves, ect. After all, SMP is Also gonna be on hair and weapons/clothing, and I dont think theres an option to switch that. Besides, how much a diff can you tell from smp/cbp on small things like calves and belly.

 

Unless your makin skyrim corn vids or something, then I dont dunno, do what ya gotta.

I tried all of those but none worked. I don't understand what happened, because one second it was fine, and then it started doing that. My current playthrough is over 90 hours and I had no issues with the body physics until now.

[Alessia Wellington]

5 minutes ago, CrowOfItachi said:

I don't understand what happened, because one second it was fine, and then it started doing that.

 

[Visdagon]

Are you using MO or Vortex? Can you attach a mod list?

[Guest]

53 minutes ago, Alessia Wellington said:

 

Well, I know that part. This game has the impeccable ability to be irritating in the most random ways.

[Guest]

51 minutes ago, Visdagon said:

Are you using MO or Vortex? Can you attach a mod list?

I use MO2. How do I make a mod list without having to type everything? I have over 300 mods.

[Visdagon]

Example: D:\MOSkyrim\profiles\Default\modlist.txt

 

Just attach the txt file

Edited June 11, 2024 by Visdagon

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Visdagon said:

Example: D:\MOSkyrim\profiles\Default\modlist.txt

 

Just attach the txt file

Here it is.

modlist.txt

[Visdagon]

Your setup looks like mine as far as HDT.

It looks like your using the last 1170 AE?

 

Some unrelated things (mostly unrelated):

SMP-NPC Crash Fix

Mu Joint Fix - something to look at

 

You might want to check out Open Animation Replacer and Nemesis. Nemesis supplants FNIS, and I cannot think of an instance where FNIS is required that Nem doesnt fulfill. Except creature animations maybe? But I think there was a workaround.. or you used FNIS and Nem at the same time. That was years ago tho, who knows now.

 

Is it possible to "clean save" HDT function? Then reintegrate? Im guessing, its like the system is there but breaks on load until fixed through menu, then it works till reload?

Skyrim magic.

 

Heres my mod list, so far, subject to change as I fine tune. Like changing out The New Gentle for SOS. It looked like a nice AIO solution but they all got curved swords .

The more you add the longer it takes to vet. Maybe some stuff in there you might like or need. I am running 1170 AE Skyrim

modlist.txt

Edited June 11, 2024 by Visdagon

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Visdagon said:

Your setup looks like mine as far as HDT.

It looks like your using the last 1170 AE?

 

Some unrelated things (mostly unrelated):

SMP-NPC Crash Fix

Mu Joint Fix - something to look at

 

You might want to check out Open Animation Replacer and Nemesis. Nemesis supplants FNIS, and I cannot think of an instance where FNIS is required that Nem doesnt fulfill. Except creature animations maybe? But I think there was a workaround.. or you used FNIS and Nem at the same time. That was years ago tho, who knows now.

 

Is it possible to "clean save" HDT function? Then reintegrate? Im guessing, its like the system is there but breaks on load until fixed through menu, then it works till reload?

Skyrim magic.

 

Heres my mod list, so far, subject to change as I fine tune. Like changing out The New Gentle for SOS. It looked like a nice AIO solution but they all got curved swords .

The more you add the longer it takes to vet. Maybe some stuff in there you might like or need. I am running 1170 AE Skyrim

modlist.txt 24.33 kB · 1 download

I'm on version 1.5.97, which is SE. How would I clean save HDT?

[Visdagon]

33 minutes ago, CrowOfItachi said:

I'm on version 1.5.97

Ok that makes sense then. I dont even know if you can clean save it, Im guessing.

Have you made a new save to test? Would it take 90 hours before showing symptoms? Is this something thats occurring from your install order, or something that will always happen on your PC+Skyrim Version+Mods Chosen+Install Order? I am not sure how it works. Is it a corrupt savegame? If you Could clean save HDT Physics, would be happen again?

 

I guess you could look into how physics is hijacked from the engine and implemented into the game on bodies, and if that system leaves behavior states that are stored and reused on savegame load. IF thats the case, maybe that needs reset/cleaned? Again, I am guessing and vomitting possibilities. Someone more knowledgeable on the engine physics and mods using it would have a better answer.

Edited June 11, 2024 by Visdagon

[Visdagon]

Quick look. Faster HDT-SMP and CBPC both use scripting to do their thing. They also seemingly use the PapyrusUtil mod functions. Now, one can clean saves scripts. Should one?

It seems you might be able to clean save the scripts they use. Which exact ones do you need to do? Dunno, probably all that those mods touch. Basically the Faster HDT and CBPC mods entirely.. maybe the PapyrusUtil mod too? Dunno. Is it wise? Dunno.

 

Either way, BACKUP your savefile. In fact you can backup All 3 mods from your install in their currently installed state, just copy the folders over to a safe spot. Backup your save, and start hackin at it. If they are all backed up, in their currently installed state, they can be put back into MO like nothing happened. So why not.

 

Oh, and do a search online for skyrim clean save, both for just a save file, and for script clean saving

Edited June 11, 2024 by Visdagon

[Riasnatcher]

Have you found the solution to this?

[Visdagon]

 

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I have an idle animation mod where my character will cross her arms, but her arms don't effect her breasts.

 

I guess I should have asked specifically if they collisions are not working at all, or are just not working during that idle animation. Can certain animations be incompatible with unchained havok physics?