Bloodline - A Fertility Mode Companion Mod

[dePog]

1 hour ago, Zennzo said:

Can this mod only be played by a male char or futa too?

[ebbluminous]

Needs a bigger clue

[besinister]

I need some help or clarification.  Every time my PC has sex (any type) the NPC's reproductive system is overwhelmed and she becomes fertile.  I have the Swallowing Semen setting to Dam Burst.  My understanding is this should increase the amount of semen required.  This has happened with as little as 14ml of semen.   I also have refractory set to on.  I can go from one NPC to another immediately and deliver 14ml of seamen and it overloads the NPC's ovaries.  I guess my question is. Is this working correctly or is something not working correctly.  I know the dragonborn has powerful dragon blood and semen, but this seems to be too much.

[dePog]

17 hours ago, besinister said:

I need some help or clarification.  Every time my PC has sex (any type) the NPC's reproductive system is overwhelmed and she becomes fertile.  I have the Swallowing Semen setting to Dam Burst.  My understanding is this should increase the amount of semen required.  This has happened with as little as 14ml of semen.   I also have refractory set to on.  I can go from one NPC to another immediately and deliver 14ml of seamen and it overloads the NPC's ovaries.  I guess my question is. Is this working correctly or is something not working correctly.  I know the dragonborn has powerful dragon blood and semen, but this seems to be too much.

Any type? If anal is effecting fertility then something is wrong.

 

Oral should be able to move a females cycle into the pre-ovulation "fertile" stage. And a sufficient Vaginal semen pool should be able to move her directly to Ovulation day. Generally, the Oral amount is roughly only 25% of what is needed Vaginally.

 

Two factors contribute to calculating the semen required

1. The day of her cycle. If she is close to ovulating in a day or so, then a smaller amount of semen is required. But if she only ovulated yesterday, then you will require much more to move her cycle forward 20 or so days (presuming you're using a 28 day cycle)

 

2. Her relationship to you. If your relationship has reached "Lover" status, then less semen is required. But if she regards you as an Enemy, then a lot more semen is required.

 

 

Here I sniffed the Hunter with MCM set to "Dew Drop", and she needed only 25ml

 

but then sniffed her again with the "Dam Burst" setting, and she needed 87ml

 

and being day 9 makes her very close to ovulation. If she was day 16 (day after ovulation), then she'd require a lot more.

Edited August 14, 2024 by dePog

[besinister]

13 hours ago, dePog said:

Any type? If anal is effecting fertility then something is wrong.

 

Oral should be able to move a females cycle into the pre-ovulation "fertile" stage. And a sufficient Vaginal semen pool should be able to move her directly to Ovulation day. Generally, the Oral amount is roughly only 25% of what is needed Vaginally.

 

Two factors contribute to calculating the semen required

1. The day of her cycle. If she is close to ovulating in a day or so, then a smaller amount of semen is required. But if she only ovulated yesterday, then you will require much more to move her cycle forward 20 or so days (presuming you're using a 28 day cycle)

 

2. Her relationship to you. If your relationship has reached "Lover" status, then less semen is required. But if she regards you as an Enemy, then a lot more semen is required.

 

 

Here I sniffed the Hunter with MCM set to "Dew Drop", and she needed only 25ml

 

but then sniffed her again with the "Dam Burst" setting, and she needed 87ml

 

and being day 9 makes her very close to ovulation. If she was day 16 (day after ovulation), then she'd require a lot more.

 

dePog thanks for the info.  I was finally able to get sniff to work (somewhat).  I just met with Frier fir the first time she listed me as an acquaintance was on day 28 (28-day cycle).  We had sex and she received 37mls.  within 5 seconds of closing the text box with the sex stats I got another text box telling me she was overwhelmed.   She is now on day 14.  I have the MCM set to Dam Burst.  I also have male multi turned on, but I have refractory ignored turned off.  I checked her status in bloodline MCM after and it showed 37 mls in womb.

I'm also not sure my sniff is working correctly.  When I sniff I only see the females I have had sex with.  I get a quick notice that scrolls off the screen quickly.  I do not get a text box like the ones in your response.  Is there another mod that I need to get the text boxes?

 

EDIT

I've been reading comments in FM, FM+ and Bloodline.  I think I've got the sniff issue figured out.  It seems vortex has addition scents after Bloodline even though there was a rule tell Vortex to load Bloodline last.  I manually change the load order, and it seems to be working.  

As for the issue of female forced ovulation, I am still having the issue.  I looked at the Bloodline MCM and it shows 36mls.  However, FM++ shows 360.  I do have your patch from Bloodline "Fertility mode - show semen in mls but that seems not to be working for me.  Does the forced ovulation get its data from bloodline of FM+?  If its getting the data from FM+ then my issue would be to get the show semen patch working (not sure how to do that yet).  Any ideas are welcome, and I will try them all until I get things working.  Thanks

Edited August 14, 2024 by besinister

[Kavae]

Hello, I've currently got an issue where the MCM for this mod doesn't show up at all for me. I've confirmed the mod is working by using the testing pregnancy spell from Fertility Mode and the correct box popped up, but even when using Jaxonz MCM kicker & Menu Maid, I can't get a MCM menu. (though I ended up getting menus for mods I didn't know had menus lmao). I use OSA and have Bloodlines to load last on the load order.

(Sniffing also doesn't work at all, but thats more of a minor issue for me)

[dePog]

13 hours ago, besinister said:

 

dePog thanks for the info.  I was finally able to get sniff to work (somewhat).  I just met with Frier fir the first time she listed me as an acquaintance was on day 28 (28-day cycle).  We had sex and she received 37mls.  within 5 seconds of closing the text box with the sex stats I got another text box telling me she was overwhelmed.   She is now on day 14.  I have the MCM set to Dam Burst.  I also have male multi turned on, but I have refractory ignored turned off.  I checked her status in bloodline MCM after and it showed 37 mls in womb.

I'm also not sure my sniff is working correctly.  When I sniff I only see the females I have had sex with.  I get a quick notice that scrolls off the screen quickly.  I do not get a text box like the ones in your response.  Is there another mod that I need to get the text boxes?

 

EDIT

I've been reading comments in FM, FM+ and Bloodline.  I think I've got the sniff issue figured out.  It seems vortex has addition scents after Bloodline even though there was a rule tell Vortex to load Bloodline last.  I manually change the load order, and it seems to be working.  

As for the issue of female forced ovulation, I am still having the issue.  I looked at the Bloodline MCM and it shows 36mls.  However, FM++ shows 360.  I do have your patch from Bloodline "Fertility mode - show semen in mls but that seems not to be working for me.  Does the forced ovulation get its data from bloodline of FM+?  If its getting the data from FM+ then my issue would be to get the show semen patch working (not sure how to do that yet).  Any ideas are welcome, and I will try them all until I get things working.  Thanks

 

I think the issue is that "Additional Scents" should not be in the mod list at all. It is a forerunner to Bloodline that I made some years ago. All the features of Additional Scents are incorporated within Bloodline.

 

Bloodline gets the Semen quantity from Fertility Mode, but divides it by 10 to show it as mls. I have only changed the on-screen notification (to mls) that Fertility Mode shows when the males orgasm. I haven't changed its MCM displays, so they still show it in hundreds. So if FM says 360, that is the same amount that Bloodline shows as 36mls. (360/10 = 36)

 

The text box after sniffing only appears if you are very close to the female, and have her in your crosshairs.

 

Not all females will show a scent when you sniff. They have to be over 30% aroused in order to give off the purple/mauve scent. Assuming a 28 day cycle, they show a blueish/green scent if fertile (days 7 to 13, approx.), a deep green scent if ovulating (day 14 approx.), and a brownish/yellow scent if menstruating (days 1 to 6 approx.). From day 15 to 28 they won't show any scent, unless you recently had sex with them, in which case you'll see the creamy/white semen scent.

 

So, for example, it is normal that up to half the females in a Tavern won't show any scent.

[dePog]

2 hours ago, Kavae said:

Hello, I've currently got an issue where the MCM for this mod doesn't show up at all for me. I've confirmed the mod is working by using the testing pregnancy spell from Fertility Mode and the correct box popped up, but even when using Jaxonz MCM kicker & Menu Maid, I can't get a MCM menu. (though I ended up getting menus for mods I didn't know had menus lmao). I use OSA and have Bloodlines to load last on the load order.

(Sniffing also doesn't work at all, but thats more of a minor issue for me)

 

I would check Mod load order

1. Fertility Mode
2. Fertility Mode Fixes and Tweaks
3. Bloodline

and, is "Detect Fertility" turned on in Fertility Mode's MCM (needed for sniff to work)

 

Also, when you installed Fertility Mode, did you make sure that you did NOT select any of its FOMOD installer options/patches. FM Fixes and Tweaks takes care of all those options.

Did you leave Fertility Mode's BSA's alone. If you unpacked the BSA's it will conflict with FM Fixes and Tweaks

 

The MCM not appearing is a SkyUI issue, out of the control of Bloodline. The fact that other MCM's were not appearing suggests a conflict elsewhere.

 

[abcd99]

On 8/9/2024 at 11:51 PM, dePog said:

 

With Bloodline, every pregnancy has a 50% chance of miscarrying if the female's rank (connection to the Dragonborn) is zero. As that rank increases, her risk drops. At Rank 100 it removes all chance of miscarriage. Lots of users do not read the mod's description page and are unaware of the likelihood of miscarriage. So I have a pop-up message that explains that when she first becomes pregnant.

 

You don't have to use oral sex to increase her rank. You can leave her to battle the odds, or have regular vaginal or anal sex to gradually raise her Rank to 100. The pop-up notice just explains that the quickest way to raise her rank is oral sex, and it tells you "approximately" how much semen will be needed.

This is not a bug. It is deliberately done to make interesting game play. Risks and rewards. The three different types of sex (vaginal, anal, oral) all have different roles to play and give different rewards.

 

However, I will think about another wording option for that pop-up message.

 

PS: My reasoning for a 50% miscarriage rate is that a normal human female is carrying a Dragonblood child which would be a very dangerous undertaking. So a deeper connection with the father would reduce that danger. Think of it as a vaccination procedure, lol.

 

Just to let you know that for some reason, after a women becomes pregnant, there is no way to put more sperm in her. It doesn't register somehow.

[dePog]

5 hours ago, abcd99 said:

 

Just to let you know that for some reason, after a women becomes pregnant, there is no way to put more sperm in her. It doesn't register somehow.

 

Fertility Mode (FM) is the mod that tracks vaginal semen. Bloodline has added the tracking of Oral and Anal semen. The author of FM didn't think it was necessary to track semen when the female was pregnant, or menstruating, so it removes the semen quantity soon after sex finishes. Bloodline tries to get the amount from FM before it deletes it, but its usually not quick enough.

 

This is one of the reasons I set up oral to give her a large rank boost while pregnant, so that you can protect her from miscarriage.

[Kavae]

I attempted to make a profile with only Fertility Mode (+ tweaks), Bloodlines, and OSA (plus Alternate Start for quick testing and any necessary dependencies) but still have the same problem: No Bloodlines MCM menu. I saw there was an update to the mod and updated it as well just in case, nada. I think I'm just cursed on this one sadly, but I hope to try again some time!

[dePog]

On 8/25/2024 at 11:15 AM, Kavae said:

I attempted to make a profile with only Fertility Mode (+ tweaks), Bloodlines, and OSA (plus Alternate Start for quick testing and any necessary dependencies) but still have the same problem: No Bloodlines MCM menu. I saw there was an update to the mod and updated it as well just in case, nada. I think I'm just cursed on this one sadly, but I hope to try again some time!

 

 I haven't experienced it myself, but several users have stated that Papyrus Tweaks NG has solved the "missing MCM" issue, not just for Bloodline, but other mod's MCMs also.

[Kavae]

On 8/25/2024 at 9:37 PM, dePog said:

 

 I haven't experienced it myself, but several users have stated that Papyrus Tweaks NG has solved the "missing MCM" issue, not just for Bloodline, but other mod's MCMs also.

 

I got the menu to show. How? Good question! I'm not sure.

I made a new testing profile before adding Papyrus Tweaks and it worked, idk why. Tried on my original profile on a new save, nope. Tried Papyrus tweaks, nope. Made another new profile on vortex to start the mod elimination, and decided to just put all my mods in at once to see what happened and it worked fine lmao. Skyrim is just weird, but its working and excited to finally get to try it out for realsies! 

My only real guess is maybe something changed with load order? I use loot on all my profiles to sort plugins and always mark bloodlines as a late loader, but we may shall may never know.

[TitusButler]

On 8/13/2024 at 8:30 AM, besinister said:

I need some help or clarification.  Every time my PC has sex (any type) the NPC's reproductive system is overwhelmed and she becomes fertile.  I have the Swallowing Semen setting to Dam Burst.  My understanding is this should increase the amount of semen required.  This has happened with as little as 14ml of semen.   I also have refractory set to on.  I can go from one NPC to another immediately and deliver 14ml of seamen and it overloads the NPC's ovaries.  I guess my question is. Is this working correctly or is something not working correctly.  I know the dragonborn has powerful dragon blood and semen, but this seems to be too much.

I was having the same issue, but switching from Dam Burst to Fire Hose solved the problem. I put it back to Dam Burst to test it, and indeed, it triggers the womb overwhelm every time, including after only anal. I have refractory ignored in my settings, for what it's worth. 

[TitusButler]

Additionally, since everyone is asking about increasing load size, what about potions? There are already potions to terminate pregnancy, remove semen, and increase fertility that you can craft at cooking pots, but I don't think they do anything for men. A potion to increase semen quality when it would normally be way lower, shorten/remove refractory times (if you didn't want to just check the box and have an in-universe explanation beyond being the Dragonborn, I guess), or increase load size would be neat.

 

I don't know what the ingredients would be to make the potions, but for real life inspiration, Maca Root increases semen load and Horny Goat Weed is something of an aphrodisiac. Would it be easier to make the numbers go up or just add an extra ejaculation like with the other boosts?

 

I understand the appeal of wanting to increase load size in the context of being able to make your player character have enormous nuts and with something like SLIF or OInflation that makes the ladies look like they just took in multiple liters all at once. 

Edited August 27, 2024 by TitusButler
Additional Input on Topic

[besinister]

5 hours ago, TitusButler said:

I was having the same issue, but switching from Dam Burst to Fire Hose solved the problem. I put it back to Dam Burst to test it, and indeed, it triggers the womb overwhelm every time, including after only anal. I have refractory ignored in my settings, for what it's worth. 

 

TitusButler, Thanks for the info.  I tried what you said.   I switched to Fire Hose, and it seems to be working correctly.  I tried selecting and deselecting most of the toggles in the mod, but I never thought of just switching to the next least restrictive setting.  Thanks again for the help. 

[dePog]

13 hours ago, TitusButler said:

I was having the same issue, but switching from Dam Burst to Fire Hose solved the problem. I put it back to Dam Burst to test it, and indeed, it triggers the womb overwhelm every time, including after only anal. I have refractory ignored in my settings, for what it's worth. 

 

7 hours ago, besinister said:

 

TitusButler, Thanks for the info.  I tried what you said.   I switched to Fire Hose, and it seems to be working correctly.  I tried selecting and deselecting most of the toggles in the mod, but I never thought of just switching to the next least restrictive setting.  Thanks again for the help. 

 

hmmm.. interesting. I'll have a look at the code and see if there is an error in the logic settings. Certainly sounds like I've made an oops, lol. If so, I'll have it fixed for the next version release.

[dePog]

On 8/27/2024 at 8:07 PM, TitusButler said:

Additionally, since everyone is asking about increasing load size, what about potions? There are already potions to terminate pregnancy, remove semen, and increase fertility that you can craft at cooking pots, but I don't think they do anything for men. A potion to increase semen quality when it would normally be way lower, shorten/remove refractory times (if you didn't want to just check the box and have an in-universe explanation beyond being the Dragonborn, I guess), or increase load size would be neat.

 

I don't know what the ingredients would be to make the potions, but for real life inspiration, Maca Root increases semen load and Horny Goat Weed is something of an aphrodisiac. Would it be easier to make the numbers go up or just add an extra ejaculation like with the other boosts?

 

I understand the appeal of wanting to increase load size in the context of being able to make your player character have enormous nuts and with something like SLIF or OInflation that makes the ladies look like they just took in multiple liters all at once. 

 

Bloodline gets the load size from Fertility Mode(FM) when the sex is Vaginal. All I can do is

1. tell FM to NOT apply its refractory restrictions (that is, stop FM from lowering semen amounts if ejaculations are less than 8 hours apart), OR
2. tell SLSO (or OSTIM) to make the Male ejaculate again. In which case FM again determines how big the quantity is

This is already happening with the two MCM options in Bloodline.

 

Plus, Bloodline will increase the number of Male ejaculations depending on how many orgasms you gave the female. So if you crank up SLSO's MCM option "Female Enjoyment" to 200, then she'll have more orgasms, which will make the male ejaculate extra times. And I think OStim's MCM also has a similar option that lets you increase female enjoyment and therefore more female orgasms, leading to more male ejaculations.

[Zagrus the old]

Did something happened? i can't access the mod in nexus and loverslab...

[GorakTheFatOrc]

On 9/3/2024 at 11:46 PM, Zagrus the old said:

Did something happened? i can't access the mod in nexus and loverslab...

yeah same.

[shadowwarior94555]

On 9/3/2024 at 4:46 PM, Zagrus the old said:

Did something happened? i can't access the mod in nexus and loverslab...

i think the next version is about to be released so lets wait and see what happens 

[shadowwarior94555]

does anyone    has the ml feritly mod i have deleted it by mistake.

 

nvm i have the file 

Edited September 14, 2024 by shadowwarior94555

[mikesolo1975]

thanks for the amazing work

Bloodline - A Fertility Mode Companion Mod  is removed from nexus and here ( loverslab), you go restor it  in here when you make a fix

 

thanks for any help and advice

Edited September 21, 2024 by mikesolo1975

[juanitoperez]

Any updates? I am willing to start a new play-through if this will get updated soon as I find it to be one of the best mods out there.

[RevanCathal]

12 hours ago, juanitoperez said:

Any updates? I am willing to start a new play-through if this will get updated soon as I find it to be one of the best mods out there.

It'll be worth the wait.