Housecarl Whiterun CTD (Papyrus Error)

[Spyder Arachnid]

Hopefully someone can help me with this, cause I'm just getting frustrated trying to figure it out.

 

Just did a fresh reinstall of all my stuff, but now I can't even start a new game because of this:

 

[11/07/2013 - 06:56:30AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_HousecarlWhiterunDragonsr_0107FA4B to  (8510B5BF) because their base types do not match
 

 

This is what my papyrus keeps telling me every time I try to start a new game. I have AngeLydia, which replaces Lydia (Whiterun Housecarl), but have never ever had this issue before with it.

 

So I disabled the mod, and was finally able to start a new game. Got into the Keep, saved my game, and then exited. Enabled the mod, and now I can't load my game anymore. Instant crash to desktop if I try. With that same error message above.

 

I searched around for an answer, and the only thing that I found was some reference to a mod called Wearable Lanterns, which I don't even use, nor have I ever used it. So that didn't help me at all.

 

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

[Cyndi]

Can you load another save and then load into that save inside the keep?

Alternatively, when the main menu show up, instead of picking continue or load, can you open the console and use coc qasmoke

then load into that save?

I only ask because I have to do that most of the time.

[Spyder Arachnid]

My game won't even start.

 

Clicking New or Load causes instant CTD, unless I disable that mod. Which doesn't make any sense, cause that mod has never done that before.

 

I'm still using the same mods I always have, and now for some reason, it CTD if I have that mod ticked.

 

I'm completely dumbfounded as to why it is happening.

[cornbreadtm]

It's probably dirty or something. You clean it with Tes5Edit? Just post your load order and the esp. One of us can seen what's wrong a lot easier with more information.

[winny257]

this is perhaps also to the lydia the mod are you using?
Here is another version of lydia to find is simply beautiful.

 

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/37861/?tab=3&navtag=%2Fajax%2Fmodimages%2F%3Fid%3D37861%26user%3D1&pUp=1

 

 

http://static1.nexusmods.com/110/mods/110/images/37861-1-1372957631.jpg

 

 

german \ deutsch !

 

vielleicht liegt es ja auch an dem lydia mod den du verwendest ?
hier ist eine andere version von lydia zu finden , ist einfach schöner .

[DigitalVixen]

This happens because you have a script that is trying to interact with Lydia in a way that is not possible due to the changes done by this mod or another. Now judging from your post you haven't changed anything since the last time this mod worked for you so I would say that your problem is because a file is corrupt and does not load properly. Did you try to re-install the mod? Do you have any mod that in any way affects the housecarls? That may also have corrupt files. Finally - your base skyrim.esm/.bsa file may be corrupt. If you use Steam you can try to validate the file integrity - if it find anything wrong it will automatically re-download the content. Make sure you take a backup of all your files before doing this, however.

[Spyder Arachnid]

This is my load order at the moment.

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
OblivionHairPackAIO.esm
Obl-VB hair.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
AOM.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
JSwords.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
SexLab.esm
SGHairPackBase.esm
SkyMoMod.esm
TERAArmors.esm
FoxHome_X.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
RevampedExteriorFog.esp
realrainCoT.esp
PersonalizedMusic - NoVanillaMusic_v5.0.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
AOM.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp
DudestiaOutfitChanger.esp
SexLabMatchMaker.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
Sextreme-All.esp
towConversation.esp
SkyUI.esp
AsharaDimonizedDress.esp
AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp
BlackSacramentArmor.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
DeathRobes.esp
FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp
FaceMasksforNPC.esp
imperialshield.esp
Imperial Shield Replacer.esp
MergedWeapons.esp
iorvethlightarmor_v_1_3.esp
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
LustmordVampireArmor.esp
Osare HotPants.esp
Osare Culort Outfit.esp
MergedArmorReplacers.esp
TERAArmors.esp
TERAArmors - Leveled Lists.esp
MergedKMods.esp
MergedB&SCollection.esp
MergedArmorMods.esp
Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp
Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp
Witch Of The Wild.esp
BHTNF.esp
hjerimtnf.esp
HSTNF.esp
VHTNF.esp
proudspiremanortnf.esp
kankaraya.esp
SkyrimAcademy.esp
LinnRoom.esp
HF_Lakeview_AvantGarden_Performance.esp
LocalizedGuildJobs.esp
whiterunMarket.esp
HF_Windstad_Pool_and_Hot_Bath.esp
HF_Heljarchen_Pool.esp
Winterhold Ruins.esp
armored-horses.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
Book Covers Dawnguard.esp
Book Covers Hearthfire.esp
Book Covers Dragonborn.esp
SexLab Romance.esp
xvisionchildren.esp
ETaC - Complete.esp
ETaC - Complete HF Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp
ETaC - Smelters.esp
WhiterunAlivePiano.esp
SummerSkyrim.esp
SummerSkies.esp
DawnofWindhelm.esp
SoS - The Dungeons.esp
SoS - The Wilds.esp
SoS - Civilization.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp
SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp
SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp
SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMinorCities.esp
SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp
DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
Werewolves.esp
ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp
Pinup Poser.esp
SNSDPoser1.esp
Beards.esp
Brows.esp
mortenhairs.esp
Newhairpack.esp
SGHairPack06.esp
SGHairPack03.esp
SGHairPack02.esp
SGHairPack05.esp
SGHairPack04.esp
SGHairPack01.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
SBF Beleval.esp
Companion_Ari.esp
Saadia.esp
Brotherhood People.esp
MergedNPCReplacers.esp
Bestiality_Extras.esp
Working Dog.esp
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
CharacterMakingExtender.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
WATER.esp
WATER Plants.esp
WATER DG.esp
WATER DB Waves.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
JiubQuestMarkers.esp
guitar.esp

 

 

Yeah I have a few merged mods along with a bunch of texture edits, including that AngeLydia. I merged all my NPC Replacer mods together to save on space.

 

Maybe it's the fact that it is merged that could be causing it? Just learned how to merge recently with Tes5Edit, so thus the reason for the few merged mods now. It's the only thing that is different from my last install is the merge. But didn't think that would cause this issue.

 

And I checked my file integrity and all is good. No issues there. The only mods I have that affect my housecarls are the beautify mods. And I made sure I cleaned, sorted, and updated all my mods before doing any merging as well. So they are clean with no errors.

 

Thanks for that link Winny, but I'm already using that mod as well lol. I just use a selection from there, not all of them. I don't use the Lydia from there cause I like the AngeLydia better. It's unique looking amongst all the other NPCs.

[winny257]

if it's this mod that you use, it has caused problems for me too. this mod is not compatible with any other mod!

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/26112//?

 

german \ deutsch !

 

wenn es diese mod ist die du verwendest , sie hat auch bei mir probleme verursacht . diese mod ist mit irgendeiner anderen mod nicht kompatibel !

[Spyder Arachnid]

if it's this mod that you use, it has caused problems for me too. this mod is not compatible with any other mod!

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/26112//?

 

german \ deutsch !

 

wenn es diese mod ist die du verwendest , sie hat auch bei mir probleme verursacht . diese mod ist mit irgendeiner anderen mod nicht kompatibel !

 

It's only incompatible with other mods that edit Lydia. Which I don't have any other mods that edit Lydia. I don't use the Lydia in Skyrim Beautiful Followers. I downloaded the separate replacers from that mod, and Lydia wasn't one of them.

 

If I downloaded the all in one, I'd understand if there was a conflict. But I did the separate versions to get which ones I wanted, so I didn't get unnecessary files conflicting with my other replacers.

 

 

Though after reading the AngeLydia mod, I do notice it also changes her behavior and stats as well. So that might be what is causing my issues, since all my other replacers don't do that and I merged them together.

 

 

EDIT: So I removed the HousecarlWhiterun.esp from my merged patch and it still crashes. Same error, but this time I have the mod separated from the merged patch. So at least I know it wasn't the merged patch that was causing it. Now I just have to find out why this mod that I have always been using, is just now causing me errors that it never did before. *sigh*

[DigitalVixen]

Just a thought - did you update to the new USKP versions?

[Spyder Arachnid]

Now that I think about it, no I haven't. >.<

 

NMM never showed there was an update, so I've still been using the old one. I'll give the new one a try and see if that fixes it. Thanks.

[Spyder Arachnid]

So tried the new USKP, and still nothing. Keep getting the same error. Here's my papyrus so you can see what is going on. Maybe someone can make sense of it.

 

 

[11/08/2013 - 12:42:46AM] Papyrus log opened (PC)
[11/08/2013 - 12:42:46AM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)
[11/08/2013 - 12:42:46AM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[11/08/2013 - 12:43:09AM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1scwispwallscript", missing file?
[11/08/2013 - 12:43:09AM] Cannot open store for class "DLC2BenthicLurkerFXSCRIPT", missing file?
[11/08/2013 - 12:43:11AM] Cannot open store for class "huntersvisionimodscript", missing file?
[11/08/2013 - 12:43:11AM] Cannot open store for class "PF_HousecarlWhiterunDragonsr_0107FA4B", missing file?
[11/08/2013 - 12:43:11AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_HousecarlWhiterunDragonsr_0107FA4B to  (7310B5BF) because their base types do not match

 

 

I have verified my cache, no issues. I have removed the AngeLydia and put it back and either way, I still get this error from that one. I googled the other three errors, and got nothing. So I am at a complete loss of what is going on. I have everything updated to the latest versions, everything is sorted properly in my load order via BOSS and my own manual stuff, I have cleaned all my mods that had dirty edits, and have all the compatibility stuff that is required.

 

And I still have no idea what is causing my game to crash if I select New or Load from the title screen.

 

 

EDIT: So it seems removing the merged package of all my NPC mods and putting them all in there separately worked. Yet I still get the same error in my papyrus, but my game actually starts. So basically, I just can't merge my NPC replacers. Merging them caused instant CTD, but not merging them works just fine. Odd solution, but guess that's how it is.

[DigitalVixen]

The Angel-Lydia changes the packages assigned to Lydia quite a lot. If you load USKP before it, they will have a conflict and the USKP will loose out, that in and off itself is not a biggie though, but when looking at the Angel-Lydia esp it seems that it changed which packages that should be assigned (their base code) and which plugin these packages should be read from. When you made your merged patch some of this might have not been updated properly/missed. You'd have to use TES5 to check that.