Is there a demand for 'realistic sexiness' in video games?

[Blademonk]

I obviously haven't conducted any formal studies on this, I'm just basing my initial thoughts on what the product in the market reflect. For instance: on Resident Evil modding communities you will see 800,000 outfits that are over-the-top sexy and maybe 20 outfits that are realistic sexy.

 

Let's call this OTTS (over the top sexy) and RS (realistic sexy). I prefer RS to OTTS, but that is just my opinion. It adds some sexy flavour to my gaming while still keeping me grounded in the story and world.

 

Take this example of a mod from Resident Evil 3. The exposed midriff really adds something to her otherwise generic tank-top outfit. She looks good, but still looks like a woman who could be fighting off zombies.

 

 

 

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Then there's these mods, that make it look like Jill just left her part-time job at a strip club before the zombie madness went down. This looks more like one of those "Sexy Cop" outfits you see a thematic performer wear at a bachelor party or a strip club, or maybe a risque halloween costume.

 

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Now this thread is not to say "RS is better than OTTS". Everyone can have their own opinion and mod what they want. My curiosity instead is focused on why the OTTS mods always seem to outnumber the RS mods? Is there just no demand for them?

 

It seems to apply with every gaming community I can think of. I struggle to find a mod that's just "Claire in a shortened tank top" but can easily find "Claire in bunny ears, a shiny vinyl thong, and pasties on her tits". Curious. How curious.

Edited October 2, 2023 by Blademonk

[tigers]

Mind sharing the shorter tanktop mod?

[Blademonk]

Sure - I take it you're a fan of RS modding style as well?

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/residentevil32020/mods/169/

[Seijin8]

1 hour ago, Blademonk said:

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A couple of thoughts here, maybe helpful, maybe not.

First, a site that specializes in things considered taboo elsewhere is not going to give you any kind of window into a broader audience.

 

Second, You mentioned the first example as:

1 hour ago, Blademonk said:

She looks good, but still looks like a woman who could be fighting off zombies.

I'm looking at her "outfit" as underequipped for fighting anything (including the common cold).  Completely inadequate hand/arm protection, no upper body protection to speak of.  No helmet.  With the exception of her footwear, there is minimal functional difference in protective quality between either of the two examples given.  She may as well be wearing a swimsuit for all the defensive benefit she is receiving from her clothing.

I wouldn't categorize either as "realistic" for a combat encounter.

 

"Realism" seems like it should be an objective term, but it very seldom is.

[Maglog]

40 minutes ago, Seijin8 said:

 

A couple of thoughts here, maybe helpful, maybe not.

First, a site that specializes in things considered taboo elsewhere is not going to give you any kind of window into a broader audience.

 

Second, You mentioned the first example as:

I'm looking at her "outfit" as underequipped for fighting anything (including the common cold).  Completely inadequate hand/arm protection, no upper body protection to speak of.  No helmet.  With the exception of her footwear, there is minimal functional difference in protective quality between either of the two examples given.  She may as well be wearing a swimsuit for all the defensive benefit she is receiving from her clothing.

I wouldn't categorize either as "realistic" for a combat encounter.

 

"Realism" seems like it should be an objective term, but it very seldom is.

?, i believe that people just wanna have fun as  Cyndi Lauper sang, thats why they also choose more simple things aka OTTS in your words! Cool research you having here?

 

Edited October 2, 2023 by Maglog

[jpackinwood]

42 minutes ago, Seijin8 said:

I wouldn't categorize either as "realistic" for a combat encounter.

 

"Realism" seems like it should be an objective term, but it very seldom is.

Eh, keep in mind that in RE3, Jill is ambushed in her apartment after waking up from a nap and wears those clothes for the rest of the game. "Realism" isn't going to be SWAT armor,

 

So, I might be putting words in OP's mouth here, but in this context, I take realism to mean that the clothes are believably something the character might be wearing. The first outfit looks like a tank top she might own and occasionally wear in public. The second outfit looks like she's about to head over to a bachelor party to tell the groom he's under arrest for being too sexy.

 

Which is fine. I played through that game a few times, and I had her naked or in fetish gear most of the time. I didn't really give a rat's ass about "realism", but I get what OP is saying, and if that's his preference, power to him.

[Gigabash]

am pretty much open to all it just depend of the mood or the style of the game

sometimes i like it over the top

sometimes i like it in a way it is ''canon to its universe'' if that make sense

Edited October 2, 2023 by DoctorDementor

[EpicGravyNinja]

I think that the idea of 'realistic' sexy is just how an actual woman might dress, unrealistic is how a virgin man whose only interaction with women, is onlyfans and porn, would dress a woman.

The lack of actual understanding of how women want to dress and how men think women should dress is what makes this a thing. I think.

it's like, I like my wife to dress sexy but not OTT so she looks like a stripper.

Edited October 2, 2023 by EpicGravyNinja

[Blademonk]

15 hours ago, jpackinwood said:

Eh, keep in mind that in RE3, Jill is ambushed in her apartment after waking up from a nap and wears those clothes for the rest of the game. "Realism" isn't going to be SWAT armor,

 

So, I might be putting words in OP's mouth here, but in this context, I take realism to mean that the clothes are believably something the character might be wearing. The first outfit looks like a tank top she might own and occasionally wear in public. The second outfit looks like she's about to head over to a bachelor party to tell the groom he's under arrest for being too sexy.

 

Which is fine. I played through that game a few times, and I had her naked or in fetish gear most of the time. I didn't really give a rat's ass about "realism", but I get what OP is saying, and if that's his preference, power to him.

 

 

 

 

 

You said it 100% correctly. The other guy is being too anal about the word 'realism', if we split hairs like that literally every game character under the sun would be open to scrutiny and you'd see conversations like "Why does Solid Snake's boots not have a thicker gristle on them" and such.

 

Let's keep it simple, logical, the way a common person would think. If you saw a woman like Jill dressed in Outfit 1, during a zombie situation, you might look twice but that's it. She still has cargo pants and tactical pouches and everything. The second outfit would make you think "Ummm what the fuck are you doing here go find some different clothes first".

Edited October 2, 2023 by Blademonk

[Gigabash]

18 hours ago, EpicGravyNinja said:

I think that the idea of 'realistic' sexy is just how an actual woman might dress, unrealistic is how a virgin man whose only interaction with women, is onlyfans and porn, would dress a woman.

The lack of actual understanding of how women want to dress and how men think women should dress is what makes this a thing. I think.

it's like, I like my wife to dress sexy but not OTT so she looks like a stripper.

say that again when you will understand that the most over the top sexy design and the most successful ones are made by women lol its not a question of gender or porn

People like sexy in all the forms

[EpicGravyNinja]

On 10/3/2023 at 2:47 PM, DoctorDementor said:

say that again when you will understand that the most over the top sexy design and the most successful ones are made by women lol its not a question of gender or porn

People like sexy in all the forms

name 3...

[jpackinwood]

On 10/2/2023 at 2:23 PM, EpicGravyNinja said:

I think that the idea of 'realistic' sexy is just how an actual woman might dress, unrealistic is how a virgin man whose only interaction with women, is onlyfans and porn, would dress a woman.

The lack of actual understanding of how women want to dress and how men think women should dress is what makes this a thing. I think.

While we're necroing this thread...

 

Why the "virgin" shit? Are you one of those guys who thinks dudes stop looking at porn after they get a girlfriend? That's the kind of thing a guy who's only recently lost his virginity might think. I remember being that guy. I remember being absolutely infatuated with a girl and thinking I'd never want to look at porn again.

 

That was 23 years ago, and I was dead wrong. Porn is still hot. Unrealistic sexy clothing and nudity in mods is hot. It's not just virgins and basement dwellers who like that stuff, and it's a really dumb stereotype.

[S3 Studios]

On 10/2/2023 at 2:23 PM, EpicGravyNinja said:

I think that the idea of 'realistic' sexy is just how an actual woman might dress, unrealistic is how a virgin man whose only interaction with women, is onlyfans and porn, would dress a woman.

The lack of actual understanding of how women want to dress and how men think women should dress is what makes this a thing. I think.

it's like, I like my wife to dress sexy but not OTT so she looks like a stripper.

Fun Fact: a lot of hentai artists, r-18 doujin artists, and ecchi mangaka are women. Also character designers.

 

 

[EpicGravyNinja]

On 10/23/2023 at 2:22 AM, jpackinwood said:

While we're necroing this thread...

 

Why the "virgin" shit? Are you one of those guys who thinks dudes stop looking at porn after they get a girlfriend? That's the kind of thing a guy who's only recently lost his virginity might think. I remember being that guy. I remember being absolutely infatuated with a girl and thinking I'd never want to look at porn again.

 

That was 23 years ago, and I was dead wrong. Porn is still hot. Unrealistic sexy clothing and nudity in mods is hot. It's not just virgins and basement dwellers who like that stuff, and it's a really dumb stereotype.

LOL i watch porn with my wife haha

it has nothing to do with that shoot again i guess

[EpicGravyNinja]

3 hours ago, S3 Studios said:

Fun Fact: a lot of hentai artists, r-18 doujin artists, and ecchi mangaka are women. Also character designers.

 

 

another fun fact: they are the minority.

[jpackinwood]

1 hour ago, EpicGravyNinja said:

LOL i watch porn with my wife haha

Great!

 

So if you like porn, why did you say this?

On 10/2/2023 at 2:23 PM, EpicGravyNinja said:

unrealistic is how a virgin man whose only interaction with women, is onlyfans and porn, would dress a woman.

 

It sounds like you like it too... I mean, it's why we're all here, right? We're looking for mods that turn games into pornography to varying degrees. It sounds like you're calling people out as losers for liking something that you also like.