sillygooseboy7 Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 I have ABC and a handful of creature animations installed, but I noticed that creatures such as wolves have the ABC version of the dick basically placed on top of the dick that's actually attached to their body, if that makes sense. What causes this issue? Is it some kind of overwrite error between ABC and another mod? It happens with multiple animation packs, including Billyy, Anubs, etc.
Dorabella Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 51 minutes ago, sillygooseboy7 said: I have ABC When you installed ABC, did you turn on the option for wolves and rieklings? If so, have you installed true wolves and And all be for rieklings? Mandatory requirement if you install the 2 options A screenshot makes the problem clearer
sillygooseboy7 Posted August 28, 2023 Author Posted August 28, 2023 5 hours ago, ?????? 1627 said: When you installed ABC, did you turn on the option for wolves and rieklings? If so, have you installed true wolves and And all be for rieklings? Mandatory requirement if you install the 2 options A screenshot makes the problem clearer Understood, I'll have to double check, I'll troubleshoot and upload a screenshot tomorrow
sillygooseboy7 Posted August 28, 2023 Author Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) On 8/27/2023 at 3:26 PM, ?????? 1627 said: When you installed ABC, did you turn on the option for wolves and rieklings? If so, have you installed true wolves and And all be for rieklings? Mandatory requirement if you install the 2 options A screenshot makes the problem clearer I played around with some things and I think the first issue is resolved. Now I have the issue where most creatures don't have dicks. What is the main cause of this? Attached is my load order and plugin list, if that helps. I'm sure my load order is a mess, sorry about that. I get very confused on what should overwrite what since multiple mods say "don't let anything overwrite my mod". It gets even more confusing when certain parts of mods overwrite certain parts of other mods, instead of it being a flat "all of mod A overwrites all of mod B". I'm sure that's part of the problem... loadorder.txt plugins.txt Edited August 28, 2023 by sillygooseboy7
Dorabella Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 For Load order , use LOOT 34 minutes ago, sillygooseboy7 said: multiple mods say "don't let anything overwrite my mod". Which ones? A Load order and/or a list of Plugins, does not tell us how you installed the mods . Example : If , one mod tells you not to overwrite but , the next one requires overwriting , omitting this step , problems will appear Example : Hentai Creature , contains both wolves and Riekling . If , you have installed ABC BakaFactory with the patches to ritexturize wolves and riekling , but , you have not installed the 2 necessary mods , problems will appear on ALL those creatures So, as already mentioned let's start by seeing some screens(converted to JPEG) , and the FNIS report
sillygooseboy7 Posted August 29, 2023 Author Posted August 29, 2023 2 hours ago, ?????? 1627 said: For Load order , use LOOT Which ones? A Load order and/or a list of Plugins, does not tell us how you installed the mods . Example : If , one mod tells you not to overwrite but , the next one requires overwriting , omitting this step , problems will appear Example : Hentai Creature , contains both wolves and Riekling . If , you have installed ABC BakaFactory with the patches to ritexturize wolves and riekling , but , you have not installed the 2 necessary mods , problems will appear on ALL those creatures So, as already mentioned let's start by seeing some screens(converted to JPEG) , and the FNIS report I apologize, I can't take any screenshots at the moment although I thought I'd be able to. I'll get you some as soon as I can. Though I can't provide a picture, I can say that animations play out like normal, there is proper collision during insertion and all that, but there's simply no dick there. They've all disappeared. If that makes sense. It's not that they're flaccid, they just aren't loading in. Regarding ABC and Hentai Creature, I reinstalled ABC and chose not to select any retexture patches, as I don't have the mods required. I've attached a few screenshots of rules and overwrites, and the FNIS report. Thanks for being so helpful with this. Is this what you mean regarding LOOT? I ran it through LOOT again and LOOT made no changes to the loadout order. 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Dorabella Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 6 hours ago, sillygooseboy7 said: If you take a good look at the screens , you have an infinite number of conflicts . No wonder you have a lot of problems. Example: XPMS conflicts with SOS, MNC, BakaFactory ABC, Anubs,JoP,BDICBadDog . This , in my opinion , is an installation error, certainly , you don't solve it with a Load order . I think the cause is the failure to overwrite the various files Another Example MNC + BAKA ABC = 255 conflit In any case , you don't install all that stuff and then , be surprised to have problems . You go step by step . moreover , again in my opinion , at least 3/4 of the mods installed , are useless ,they are there only because they are beautiful or cool For me , if you redo everything you do it faster Below , the order of installation of the primary mods , you will need to have the fees for SE . To this order you can add USSLEP and any Alternative Start Spoiler SKSE * FNIS * SkyUi * Uiextensions * SexLab Framework * SOS(Scholongs 3.00) * or any other type Caliente Beautiful Body Edition (CBBE) * Bodyslide and outfit studio * XP32MSE ( overwrite where required) * HDT Physics extentions(overwrite where required) * COSIO 4.4(overwrite where required) * or any other Type ( BHUNP,3BA,etc,,) Launch FNIS Test the game ----------------------------- Part 2 SexLabTools 3.00 * SexLab Aroused * More nasty critters * Hentai Creatures ( optional) Creature Framework * JContainers * SLAnimLoader * MatchMaker (optional) FNIS Creature pack 1.6 * Launch FNIS Try reinstall in the order listed SOS , XPMS or XPMS(S)E ,MNC , ABC BakaFactory Overwriting the files each time it is requested
anjenthedog Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) This works for me. Note the placement of Baka ABC and the XPMSSE skeleton. Again, these values work. No double dicks, no (or very few) missing schlongs. Your load order is screwed up. BTW, I noticed that in FNIS you don't check the HKX file compatibility box? Why? I thought that was SOP. Edited August 29, 2023 by anjenthedog
Dorabella Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, anjenthedog said: This works for me. Note the placement of Baka ABC and the XPMSSE skeleton. It will definitely depend on what and how you installed ? 1
sillygooseboy7 Posted August 29, 2023 Author Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, ?????? 1627 said: If you take a good look at the screens , you have an infinite number of conflicts . No wonder you have a lot of problems. Example: XPMS conflicts with SOS, MNC, BakaFactory ABC, Anubs,JoP,BDICBadDog . This , in my opinion , is an installation error, certainly , you don't solve it with a Load order . I think the cause is the failure to overwrite the various files Another Example MNC + BAKA ABC = 255 conflit In any case , you don't install all that stuff and then , be surprised to have problems . You go step by step . moreover , again in my opinion , at least 3/4 of the mods installed , are useless ,they are there only because they are beautiful or cool For me , if you redo everything you do it faster Below , the order of installation of the primary mods , you will need to have the fees for SE . To this order you can add USSLEP and any Alternative Start Hide contents SKSE * FNIS * SkyUi * Uiextensions * SexLab Framework * SOS(Scholongs 3.00) * or any other type Caliente Beautiful Body Edition (CBBE) * Bodyslide and outfit studio * XP32MSE ( overwrite where required) * HDT Physics extentions(overwrite where required) * COSIO 4.4(overwrite where required) * or any other Type ( BHUNP,3BA,etc,,) Launch FNIS Test the game ----------------------------- Part 2 SexLabTools 3.00 * SexLab Aroused * More nasty critters * Hentai Creatures ( optional) Creature Framework * JContainers * SLAnimLoader * MatchMaker (optional) FNIS Creature pack 1.6 * Launch FNIS Try reinstall in the order listed SOS , XPMS or XPMS(S)E ,MNC , ABC BakaFactory Overwriting the files each time it is requested I'll reinstall in that order when I can. I always get nervous when touching multiple mods at once though because if something gets screwed up, there's multiple mods that could cause issues instead of one. I'm curious, what do you mean when you say this can't be fixed by changing the load order? If I understand everything right, all these conflicts will still be present no matter how I install everything. Edited August 29, 2023 by sillygooseboy7
sillygooseboy7 Posted August 29, 2023 Author Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, anjenthedog said: This works for me. Note the placement of Baka ABC and the XPMSSE skeleton. Again, these values work. No double dicks, no (or very few) missing schlongs. Your load order is screwed up. BTW, I noticed that in FNIS you don't check the HKX file compatibility box? Why? I thought that was SOP. Oh damn I didn't even realize I had XP32 overwriting ABC. That may be the issue. I'll play with it when I can and get back to you. I forgot to check the HKX compatibility box when I ran FNIS that time. I always check it if I can remember to, it just doesn't stay auto-checked so sometimes I forget 1
anjenthedog Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, ?????? 1627 said: It will definitely depend on what and how you installed ? true, but in that case, I believe that the load order I showed for ABC & skeleton is the recommended setting in Vortex (which OP uses as well), and that's not because of any other mods or how they interact, but (afaik) because that's the order that the two need to function properly.
Tlam99 Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 some animations incl. the dick. That's the reason animations are name ABCwolfonnpc erc.
sillygooseboy7 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) On 8/29/2023 at 3:11 AM, ?????? 1627 said: If you take a good look at the screens , you have an infinite number of conflicts . No wonder you have a lot of problems. Example: XPMS conflicts with SOS, MNC, BakaFactory ABC, Anubs,JoP,BDICBadDog . This , in my opinion , is an installation error, certainly , you don't solve it with a Load order . I think the cause is the failure to overwrite the various files Another Example MNC + BAKA ABC = 255 conflit In any case , you don't install all that stuff and then , be surprised to have problems . You go step by step . moreover , again in my opinion , at least 3/4 of the mods installed , are useless ,they are there only because they are beautiful or cool For me , if you redo everything you do it faster Below , the order of installation of the primary mods , you will need to have the fees for SE . To this order you can add USSLEP and any Alternative Start Reveal hidden contents SKSE * FNIS * SkyUi * Uiextensions * SexLab Framework * SOS(Scholongs 3.00) * or any other type Caliente Beautiful Body Edition (CBBE) * Bodyslide and outfit studio * XP32MSE ( overwrite where required) * HDT Physics extentions(overwrite where required) * COSIO 4.4(overwrite where required) * or any other Type ( BHUNP,3BA,etc,,) Launch FNIS Test the game ----------------------------- Part 2 SexLabTools 3.00 * SexLab Aroused * More nasty critters * Hentai Creatures ( optional) Creature Framework * JContainers * SLAnimLoader * MatchMaker (optional) FNIS Creature pack 1.6 * Launch FNIS Try reinstall in the order listed SOS , XPMS or XPMS(S)E ,MNC , ABC BakaFactory Overwriting the files each time it is requested Here's a screenshot of the issue. This is an animation with 3 wolves. Obviously one of the wolves has a dick (and the animation is horribly aligned). It's kinda hard to tell from the screenshot, but the other two wolves in the animation don't have dicks. I also made ABC overwrite XPMSE and that appears to do nothing. Edited August 31, 2023 by sillygooseboy7
sillygooseboy7 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Posted August 30, 2023 On 8/29/2023 at 5:54 AM, anjenthedog said: This works for me. Note the placement of Baka ABC and the XPMSSE skeleton. Again, these values work. No double dicks, no (or very few) missing schlongs. Your load order is screwed up. BTW, I noticed that in FNIS you don't check the HKX file compatibility box? Why? I thought that was SOP. See my response and screenshot to the other user above. I told ABC to overwrite XPMSE and the issue remains the same
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