ds64 Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 Hi guys, it's seems there is something wrong with half of my save, whenever I tried to load game, it always stuck (half loading bar). Weird though, last time I played, it just fine. I only update loverbitch to 1.5b and added blackpuppet DMRA GUTS armor. Already tried disabling all mod, and it just get worse, loading bar didn't even move... and... new game works just fine... even with all mode active.... well fuck... time to say goodbye to 122 hours gameplay??? Anyone know how to fix it?? Helpppp... Or is there any conflict in my load order?? Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 02 BathingMod_Base.esm 03 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 04 Lovers with PK.esm 05 TamagoClub.esm 06 HiyokoClub.esm 07 LoversCreature.esm 08 x117race.esm 09 Chanpon.esm 0A Hair Style Master.esm 0B Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.2] 0C UOPS Additional Changes.esp 0D UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 0E DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0F Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.1] ++ USIPS Additional Changes.esp 10 Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp 11 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp 12 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp 13 Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp 14 My Voice Extender.esp 15 Oblivion Cats v0.2b.esp 16 SD.esp 17 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.3] 18 DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4] 19 Streamline 3.1.esp 1A Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9.3] 1B Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.9.3] 1C DLCHorseArmor.esp 1D DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 1E DLCOrrery.esp 1F DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 20 DLCVileLair.esp 21 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8] 22 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 23 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] 24 DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] ++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp 25 Slof's Boners! v5.esp 26 SpeedBuster Collection.esp 27 AT2 01-Shiki Armor Set.esp 28 milkslave.esp 29 The Dragon Princess.esp 2A DianoArmor2.esp 2B DLCThievesDen.esp 2C DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11] 2D Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 2E Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44] 2F CurseOfHircine.esp 30 CoH Werewolves Mixed.esp 31 Curse of Hircine - Werewolf Hunters.esp 32 FarmAnimalsofCyrodiil.esp [Version 1.4] 33 Jail Break Escape Routes.esp 34 DLCFrostcrag.esp 35 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 36 Knights.esp 37 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2] 38 Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp 39 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0] 3A Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0] 3B HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2] 3C P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00] 3D TamagoPlayerHUDkil.esp 3E LoversHiyokoShooter.esp 3F LoversImmoralGuards.esp 40 LoversCrowningIsle.esp 41 TamagoPlayerHUD.esp [Version 2.0] 42 LoversTamagoClub.esp 43 TamagoDischarge.esp 44 HiyokoGenetics.esp 45 HiyokoGenerator.esp 46 HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp 47 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 48 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 49 LoversRaperS.esp 4A LoversBed.esp 4B LoversPower.esp 4C LoversContraception.esp 4D Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96] 4E LoversCreature.esp 4F Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] 50 LoversOrgy.esp ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_UOPS.esp 51 LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp 52 LoversBackup2.esp 53 LoversStopCombatEx.esp 54 LoversSpermSplashEx.esp 55 LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp 56 LoversRapeSlave.esp 57 LoversLight.esp 58 LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp 59 LoversSlaveTrader.esp 5A LSTBravilUnderground.esp 5B BathingMod_Soap.esp 5C BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp 5D BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp 5E BasicInstinct.esp 5F MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5] 60 MCS extension.esp 61 SetBody.esp 62 JM's Bar Fights mortal.esp 63 Unequip Broken Armor.esp [Version 2.8.2] 64 SpecialAbilityAndBadStatus.esp 65 IDKRRR_C_race.esp 66 IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp 67 Chocolate Elves.esp 68 DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp ++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp 69 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp 6A Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp 6B x117race.esp ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp 6C Lop-ears Elf.esp 6D Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp 6E Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52] ++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52] 6F Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01] 70 xeosp++.esp ++ cidnothump.esp 71 FFRace.esp ++ ArrowsWeightNothing.esp ++ ArrowsWeightNothingSE.esp 72 FuroGeneratorTrap.esp 73 TamagoFertilityClinic.esp 74 666_Modified_Contraception_esp_1_0.esp 75 milkcuirass.esp 76 Elz - Realistic Gravity.esp 77 KosuDMRAGUTSCollection.esp 78 Goblin Mini Games.esp 79 HiyokoUtilitySpells.esp 7A LSTaddonInH.esp 7B Bashed Patch, 0.esp 7C LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 7D LoversMB2.esp 7E Lovers3dorgasm.esp 7F Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp 80 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
myuhinny Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 Have you tried running boss to make sure load order is good and wrye bash is good for checking to see if a save file is missing something as well as seeing if any of the mods you have are missing something.
JSmith20142 Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 I'm not surprised disabling all the mods then trying to load a save which was made with all that lot active didn't work. I'm not quite clear from what you said if you did the obvious and just disabled the mods you added after the last save. That is a WB mods listing he's provided, and doesn't show any missing masters, which are the usual problem. This is probably not a good time to start running BOSS. I see you have Streamline - are these Streamline saves we're talking about? If so, you presumably have 16 or so that are fairly recent? Have you noticed any bloating in your savegames, especially the .obse files? I see tamagoplayerhudkil in there, which is bad for that, if you get the wrong version. Do you have just .ess/.obse files in your saves, or do you have .pluggy as well (especially large .pluggy files)? If you have .pluggys, I've sometimes found benefits in disabling tamagoplayerhudkil and deleting the .pluggy save. Deleting .obse files is a _very bad idea_ .
ds64 Posted October 7, 2013 Author Posted October 7, 2013 I always use wyre bash + boss (except for some of lovers mod, have to sort it manually) to sort load order, and using OBMM just for omod file. I'm not surprised disabling all the mods then trying to load a save which was made with all that lot active didn't work. I'm not quite clear from what you said if you did the obvious and just disabled the mods you added after the last save. That is a WB mods listing he's provided, and doesn't show any missing masters, which are the usual problem. This is probably not a good time to start running BOSS. I see you have Streamline - are these Streamline saves we're talking about? If so, you presumably have 16 or so that are fairly recent? Have you noticed any bloating in your savegames, especially the .obse files? I see tamagoplayerhudkil in there, which is bad for that, if you get the wrong version. Do you have just .ess/.obse files in your saves, or do you have .pluggy as well (especially large .pluggy files)? If you have .pluggys, I've sometimes found benefits in disabling tamagoplayerhudkil and deleting the .pluggy save. Deleting .obse files is a _very bad idea_ . Yes, I use streamline, the newest one is streamsave_6, I set it to max 15 streamline saves. My save file size is streamsave_6.ess (6,688KB) and streamsave_6.obse (5,215KB). My save file right before that save_535.ess (6,627KB) and save_535.obse (5,147KB). About .pluggy save, I didn't have it. I forgot about my obse plugins (OBSE ver20): Elys_USV.dll NifSE.dll OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll obse_jail_fix.dllOBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue.dll sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll weOCPS.dll --------OBGE, but I removed it after I have this problem... all latest version... Just now, I realized that there is a "ding" sound right after I click my save games (trying to load games). I use win7. Thank you, any advice is appreciated..
JSmith20142 Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 The 'ding' is probably weOCPS (the crash prevention system) complaining. This is much too late to be useful, but do you get similar 'dings' in game? If I do, I treat it as saying 'something has screwed up', so exit and reload my last save. Don't rely on anything saved after a 'ding'. This is actually an argument for not running weOCPS. Your file sizes are quite modest, but I am very suspicious of a .obse file nearly as large as .ess. Do you know how to use WB to check the obse data?
ds64 Posted October 7, 2013 Author Posted October 7, 2013 when I try to load a save game that have "ding" sound, it get stuck in the middle of loading. Other save (let's say "clean save") didn't have that "ding" when I try to load them. wow... after check all my save games, it seems .obse file is gradually increase everytime I save (ex. save 394 .ess - 5,356KB; .obse 11,013KB) but at some point it reduced/ reset (ex. save 403 .ess 5,222KB; .obse 878KB) check obse data= you mean right click at save and choose obse statistic?? I already tried it, and the result is same (error) : Traceback (most recent call last):File "bash\basher.pyo", line 17300, in ExecuteFile "bash\bosh.pyo", line 2661, in logStatObseUnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0x89 in position 0: ordinal not in range(128)
JSmith20142 Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Your .obse file is corrupt then, sorry, making that save beyond redemption. The usual suspect in my games for .obse bloat is TamagoPlayerHudKil, which is in your load order. Nice though the HUD is, I've given up using it for this reason. What also worked was to periodically disable the HUD and clean save, then re-enable it - perhaps you did something similar when the file size 'reset'? WB will show you what plugins you had loaded and in what order for each save. My advice would be to try and find the last save you successfully loaded, see what plugins you had active, recreate that load order and try to load it again.
ds64 Posted October 7, 2013 Author Posted October 7, 2013 damn.... okay then, time to say goodbye to 122 hour gameplay, my latest save game that I can reload is 90 hour gameplay... phew... 30 hour gone wasted... LOL But I'm curious why did I can play without any problem at that 30 hour? Thanks for your help. I'll try to disabled Tamagohudkil. EDIT:OH MY GOD!! I FIXED IT!!! FINALLY!! It's just like you said Jsmith20142, the culprit is tamagohudkil.esp, but in my case, it's not only the mod, but the plugins too (Pluggy v132).Trying to disabled the mod, the result is freeze at loading a save game.Trying to revert plugins to v128, the result is CTD when pluggy notifier came up. So what I do is, disabled the mod (in my case it's tamagohudkil.esp and tamagohud.esp) and revert pluggy v132 to pluggy v128.and just play. Now my save game size is save 537.ess 6,715KB; save 537.obse 1,050KB... well that was a big difference, from 5MB to 1MB.I'm really glad that I didn't have to say goodbye to my 122 hour gameplay... Okay, thanks for your help guys, I really appreciate it.
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